Commons talk:Featured picture candidates

Accidental nom before bot closure

Oops. Commons:Featured picture candidates/File:Mantled howler monkey and baby (81337)2.jpg is past the five-day mark and I thought I saw the FPCBot closing template, so I nominated another. Now I see I was wrong -- the bot hasn't stopped by yet. Should I delete the new nom, or is it not a big deal? Sorry for the mixup. — Rhododendrites ^talk |  18:19, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

• It will be fine. I often start nominations immediately after one has passed by the five-day rule and no one has told me off yet :-) Cmao20 (talk) 21:43, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

  The wording of the five day rule makes it clear that voting is over once the condition triggers. I'd say that it's effectively closed when all requirements of the five day rule are met, especially as votes after the five days are ignored. Adam Cuerden (talk) 00:04, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

• Thanks, both. I didn't know that last point -- so if there's 10 support and no oppose after exactly five days, but another support vote comes in before the bot closes it, that last support vote is discounted? — Rhododendrites ^talk |  03:37, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

  The Bot will count all the votes at the moment it closes the nom, even if there is one or two that comes after the 'magic' five-days-deadline. It's very unusual that this happens, so not something that those confirming the bot closing will check. Only times I've seen this time-checking, is when the Bot has closed after the nine days deadline has expired, and a vote has been cast after the red text has appeared on the nom. The Bot will always count all the votes present at its closing run, even if votes have been cast after the deadline. It's not sophisticated enough to keep track of this so it's up to the human reviewer. Personally, I don't think it's the end of the world if a nom is so good it gets a five-days closing, and gains an extra vote due to this time-Bot technicality. But I think I recall one time when an oppose vote has been struck since it came after the five-days mark. --Cart (talk) 10:17, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

  "Once either speedy criterion is reached, the voting period is considered closed, and no more votes may be added." - though it's rarely worth making a big deal out of it unless it actually changes the outcome. The phrasing is pretty unambiguous: If Rule of the 5th day's conditions are met, voting "is considered closed", whatever the bot does, so I - and several previous discussions - see absolutely no reason one shouldn't nominate again immediately. Adam Cuerden (talk) 22:42, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

  Yep, I have no problem with people creating a new nom as soon as the clock strikes (in some way) for an active nom. However, we've had some instances where people have created noms way ahead of the deadline, without adding them to the list, just waiting in the pipeline. That's not ok, since it's shaving time from the nom and thereby speed up how many noms can be made. That's gaming the system. --Cart (talk) 21:02, 24 January 2025 (UTC)

  If I'm honest, a few years ago, I would occassionally make a nom a couple hours before one closed, because I didn't think I'd be back for a few days after. I stopped doing that a while ago, though, especially as I usually realised later that I wasn't as busy as I thought and could have waited. Adam Cuerden (talk) 06:06, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

• Cart, I can remember the nomination here which was mine. Unfortunately the picture had to be deleted owing to lack of freedom of panorama in Azerbaijan, but it is an instance of what you are describing (oppose vote being struck because it came after the exact five-day mark). Cmao20 (talk) 20:52, 24 January 2025 (UTC)

• Cmao20, thank you for the hint to that nomination – it’s good to remember that one as a good example if further discussions arise about other nominations. Best, – Aristeas (talk) 08:56, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

Your most memorable shot 2024

I just found out that Commons:Commons Photographers User Group/Your most memorable shot 2024 is now open. Always fun to see what people were up to last year. Thanks to the group for organizing this. --Cart (talk) 10:00, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for notifying us here, I always enjoy looking at the images and reading the stories behind them. I also added a picture - not a happy one, sorry. Kritzolina (talk) 06:45, 24 January 2025 (UTC)

Bot notification... again

Hi! Bot has stop working again. I don't know why. // Zquid (talk) 13:16, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

It's a new month and the transition sometimes makes it sluggish. It has only missed two runs, give it a couple more and we'll see if it kicks in again. If you have some nominations and you are waiting for them to be closed, well, feel free to make new noms if the time has expired on your old ones. Best, --Cart (talk) 13:26, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

I've closed the noms in question manually to put folks at ease. I hope that the Bot will wake up soon and do the rest. --Cart (talk) 13:48, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

A previously scheduled job never ended, so subsequent scheduled run never started. I've rescheduled everything. Should hopefully be working now. We'll see in 45 mins. -- KTC (talk) 12:16, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

This has helped, the bot is working again. Thank you very much, KTC, for your help! – Aristeas (talk) 19:58, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

Sorry to bother you KTC, but the bot has stalled again for a day now. Would you mind giving it a kick, please. --Cart (talk) 20:06, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

I don't know; Commons:Featured picture candidates/Set/Mirapecten mirificus broke it in some way. I've processed it manually so the bot should run normally again until the next time something comes up. Problem for another day. -- KTC (talk) 21:37, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

Thanks, I've archived it to Commons:Featured picture candidates/Log/February 2025 too now. --Cart (talk) 22:02, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

Bah, I was so sure I didn't miss a step as well! -- KTC (talk) 22:07, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

You don't want to know how many steps I usually miss, only to spot them by accident the next day...;-) --Cart (talk) 22:36, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

Question

If I were to nominate this picture for FP, what gallery might be suitable? I've been trying to figure it out and don't have a clear idea, any suggestions appreciated! Cmao20 (talk) 12:04, 4 March 2025 (UTC)

Commons:Featured pictures/Non-photographic media/Others#Animals, because, I guess, "non-photographic" refers to the shown artwork and not to the file itself. We have lots of photos on that gallery page... --A.Savin 12:57, 4 March 2025 (UTC) But also "#Frescos and murals" would be OK --A.Savin 13:00, 4 March 2025 (UTC)

"#Frescos and murals" is the right one for me. Yann (talk) 13:58, 4 March 2025 (UTC)

Thank you very much A.Savin and Yann, will go with Frescos and murals. Cmao20 (talk) 21:05, 4 March 2025 (UTC)