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Meta Graphics Lab[edit]

This project would be better off it it worked as a portal for all the other Graphic Labs. Centralize the resources to create one awesome Graphics Lab! Rocket000 23:25, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

It's a great idea, but a lot of work is involved. Λua∫Wise (Operibus anteire) 16:50, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[edit]

In the process of fixing en:File:2010 Lisbon summit.svg I stumbled upon an issue that can be equally blamed on Adobe Illustrator and MediaWiki SVG rendering: with certain kinds of linear gradient definitions, the MediaWiki fails to render these gradients. The problem is caused by Illustrator's weird way of defining gradient vectors: they are set to a ridiculously small size and then scaled up using a gradientTransform. Anyway, as this is not the first time this issue has appeared for me, I wrote a script that gets rid of the gradientTransforms by applying them and then updating the vector coordinates with the new numbers. As this might come in handy for anyone else dealing with SVGs (removing the transforms is a good idea even if no direct issues are being caused), I made the script available at en:User:Quibik/ —Quibik (talk) 22:57, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

For those Working in the Graphic Lab ...[edit]

I volunteer to help on projects that might need code written from scratch. My "To DO" list is on my Users Page. Please comment on my Talk Page if you can use me. I work in Mathematica. Thanks Doug youvan (talk) 16:38, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

Colour-blind users[edit]

An example of map hard to read even for partially colour-blind users

Do we have any help page, tutorial or guideline on how to make maps, graphs etc. accessible by readers affected by color blindness? Should there be more suggestions on this topic? How many maps of ours are as hard to read as the one pictured? A search like green red map finds almost three thousands results, and given how few maps have a good legend and categorisation I suppose there's probably an order of magnitude more. --Nemo 19:06, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

I have no idea if there is one, but would like to support you in making one and linking everywhere appropriate. Penyulap 05:08, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
If anyone's confused about the map now it's because I reuploaded it changing to green lightness a bit to help colorblind users.—Love, Kelvinsong talk 18:01, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

Think it should be easier to upload media from a Wikipedia article page?[edit]

I'm submitting a proposal to improve this process. Have thoughts/ideas? Add to the discussion here:

Appreciate the feedback! Ashstar01 (talk) 18:40, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

Help needed for changing map[edit]

File:Location of Cossack Hetmanate.png has been nominated for deletion; while actually it just needs some changes... I am afraid I don't have the right equipment to change the map.... Some help wanted! — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 20:31, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

en:Wikipedia/Commons:Photo_workshop interplay[edit]

I thought it might be good to share this Photography workshop thread here as some of it leads to policy discussions which may affect Commons. --Kevjonesin (talk) 15:57, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

Illustration workshop talk page?[edit]

Does anyone know/remember why the Illustration workshop discussion page redirects here rather than having it's own page?

Seems to me that it should have it's own so that this page could be reserved for meta discussions affecting all the workshops.

Anyone else?

--Kevjonesin (talk) 03:03, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

  • In light of the explicit notice at the to of this page, i.e.:
Notice This page is for discussion of the Graphic Lab page in general. Please place any requests in the appropriate workshop page. Commons:Graphics village pump is available for other discussions. Thank you.

...I'm going to go ahead and look into converting the Illustration workshop discussion page into an active page instead of a redirect. If it's a straightforward process, I'll go ahead and implement the change. --Kevjonesin (talk) 20:09, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

I'd get something of a consensus first. There is a good reason why it's centralised. Penyulap 20:16, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
Since none of the other workshops redirects to Commons talk:Graphic Lab it's not really centralized either. --Patrick87 (talk) 20:34, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
I support to link all workshops here. -- Perhelion (talk) 14:47, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

Working or temporary upload[edit]

I do graphic work here and doing so I all the time has to show requesters drafts in different stages of completion for feedback. Also the requester has to give me dummies so that I know e.g. what area a map should include and so on.
This has to be managed outside of commons (to my knowledge) because there is no way to upload a draft/dummy for temporary storage/viewing (maybe not visible to every one) which could easily be removed ones the request is completed.
So now there is images uploaded which really is not correct and wrong in many ways, not every one has the possibility to store and show image elsewhere on the internet. Those wrongful images will be kept here at commons to no good and they can make a mess in the future if they are used in an improper way.

  • Is there a way to handle this right now which I'm not aware of?
  • If not, is this not something that we could add to commons?

--Goran tek-en (talk) 14:51, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

As far as I'm concerned
  • There is no current way to easily handle this s far as I know, except File:Test.svg and SVGCheck (which you probably already know).
  • I'd definitely vote for some dedicated mechanism to create working copies in an environment similar to Wikipedia (especially including librsvg rendering). In some cases the current possibilities are just not sufficient: As an example one might want to show and compare multiple SVG images as rendered by librsvg in multiple sizes. Uploading multiple files on Commons only to speedy delete them afterwards doesn't seem right; uploading as multiple file versions of Test.svg doesn't allow for the comparison of RSVG renderings; uploading them to third party servers and maybe even creating RSVG renderings manually is inconvenient, doesn't allow local embedding and might not be reasonable for everybody.
    One possibility I could imagine would be using testwiki: for working copies (any thoughts)? Some dedicated system on Labs optimized to upload multiple working copies with easy file management (especially deletion) and allowing to render multiple PNG-Thumbnails on-the-fly would probably be the most perfect solution but I doubt anybody wants to put that much work in something like that.
--Patrick87 (talk) 18:42, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
I looked at testwiki: but from what I understand this site involves code testing so that would not be a good place to look at how a svg renders and so on.
  • I don't know where to go with a suggestion like this, do you know?
  • Do you know anyone here that can create stuff like that?
  • People do upload images like this because there is no other way and I'm pretty sure the do not (in most cases) ask for a speedy deletion afterwards.
  • I would also love having the features you are talking about, but as you say, can we get anyone to put in the work. So maybe we should start of with just a place to upload as described BUT with the aim to include more functions as you describe. If now commons try to become THE place for this and graphic work it should of course be a part of it. This is what is written at the GL page;
The Graphic Lab and the Graphics village pump aim to transform Commons from an uploaders' community to a true working graphist community, based on the four graphic skills and interests categories.
  • There must be a place to start this work but I don't know where, I hope someone does.
--Goran tek-en (talk) 19:23, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Commons:Graphics village pump[edit]

Is it not better to merge this discussion page with the Commons:Graphics village pump? Keep it simple, keep it central / collectively!? In general it is not good to split things that are not clear, that is only more confusing and awkward for everyone (and weakens the working here on Commons). -- Perhelion (talk) 10:51, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

Strictly speaking this page should be about discussion regarding the Graphics Lab itself (e.g. for providing the labs infrastructure but not for user requests), while Commons:Graphics village pump should be about general questions regarding graphics (that is mainly user requests).
From the topics on both pages it is apparent that both are pretty mixed up anyway, so I don't know if we really gain one way or another. In principle I'd prefer the current structure but in practice it doesn't seem to work... --Patrick87 (talk) 13:39, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
Hey Patrick87, if we take a look at the first topic that is near in that significations what I mean but even much more bigger. Face-tongue.svg -- Perhelion (talk) 15:08, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

Hope I am right here[edit]

moved to Commons:Graphic_Lab/Video_and_sound_workshop#Hope_I_am_right_here. --McZusatz (talk) 10:03, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

Would you replace this with this...[edit]

Original version at size it is used on the encyclopaedia
Touched version

Will I replace it? Am I asking this in the right place? I'm not intending to further improve it. As you can see it is fuzzy around the edges and the touching is very light and has several issues, but I still thought it looked a bit clearer and cleaner...? ~ R.T.G 01:02, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

List of workshops[edit]

In the instructions section, it says "Requests for image improvement are placed on one of the available workshops", with a link to Commons:Graphic Lab/Workshops, but that page just has {{{1}}} {{{2}}} etc. for the list of workshops. How can this be fixed? Those are links to the correct workshops, but it would be nice to see the names. Delphi234 (talk) 01:12, 10 January 2015 (UTC)