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Archived discussions[edit]

Seven 2006/2007 discussions organized as subpages, ignoringincl. comments added in 2014:

Kendi Çalışmamın Başkasının Çalışması Diye Silme Adayı Gösterilmesi[edit]

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Argentina_Flag.jpg Dosyanın bana ait olduğunu teyid ederim. Herhangi bir vikimedia commons kullanıcısının şikayeti ile çalışmamın silme adayı gösterilmesine ve üstelik kendi çalışmamın bana ait olmadığı mesaj ile iletilmesi gerçekten üzdü beni. Tekrar ediyorum kendi çalışmam ve diğer bütün dosyalar benim kendi çalışmalarımdır. Dosyalarımı herhangi bir stock sitesinde kendi satışım dışında, satışta gördüğüm takdirde konuyu yargıya taşıyacağımıda iletmek istiyorum. İyi günler.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Yimazbeyazduman (talk • contribs) 06:33, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
Another Work of My Own Work https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Argentina_Flag.jpg I confirm that the file is mine. I was really upset that my work with the complaint of any vikimedia commons user was shown with a nomination for deletion, and that my work was communicated with the message that my work did not belong to me. I repeat my own work and all other files are my own work. I would like to convey my files to the judiciary if I see my sales on any stock site except on my own sale. Have a nice day.
 
translator: Google Translate via   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 00:28, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
  • @Yimazbeyazduman: Signing your posts on talk pages is required by Commons:Signatures policy. To do so, simply add four tildes (~~~~) at the end of your comments. Your user name or IP address (if you are not logged in) and a timestamp will then automatically be added when you save your comment. Signing your comments helps people to find out who said something and provides them with a link to your user/talk page (for further discussion).  — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 00:28, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
@Yimazbeyazduman: File:Argentina Flag.jpg Commons:Deletion requests/File:Argentina Flag.jpg başına silindi. COM:UDR adresine göndererek itiraz edebilirsiniz.
File:Argentina Flag.jpg was deleted per Commons:Deletion requests/File:Argentina Flag.jpg. You can appeal by posting to COM:UDR.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 00:37, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

CC-BY-ND?[edit]

Why CC-BY-ND is not allowed? Seems a bit too restrictive for me. Images with CC-BY-ND are allowed to be shared, even commercially. Image manipulation rights are nice to have but not necessary for free content.--Sinuhe20 (talk) 17:09, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

@Sinuhe20: Please see the classification of "Non Derivatives" as one of the "Restrictions which are not permissible" at https://freedomdefined.org/Permissible_restrictions#Non_Derivatives.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 17:26, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
@Jeff G.: So Wikimedia Commons is a platform for "Free Cultural Works" like defined by Erik Möller? I still think image manipulation should not be necessary for showing images in Wikipedia. Most users only want to see images, not manipulate it. With this restriction a lot of useful photos e.g. on Flickr can not be used, that's really pitty.--Sinuhe20 (talk) 18:57, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
@Sinuhe20: Yes, Wikimedia Commons is a platform for "Free Cultural Works" like defined by Erik Möller. See also Commons:Licensing/Justifications.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 22:15, 31 March 2019 (UTC)

Looking for a WP decision maker[edit]

Hi. I uploaded some figures, which were then deleted-

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_uploaded_by_User:AWCzarnik

The artwork I posted is Public Domain and would benefit the article. I'm looking for advice as to who could make the decision whether or not to sustain the delete, and if not who has the authority to put the artwork back on the article.AWCzarnik (talk) 22:41, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

@AWCzarnik: Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by User:AWCzarnik is still open, and could be decided by a Commons Administrator any day now. Almost anyone can add the artwork back on the article, subject to consensus on the article talk page (see en:WP:BRD and en:WP:DR).   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 00:22, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

The UploadWizard and 1924 updating[edit]

The UploadWizard still lists 1923 as the cut-off year for public domain publication in the United States. The Wikimedia Foundation's Multimedia team would like to update the UW to reflect 1924 as Commons policy. I've posted about this over at Village pump/Copyright if anyone would like to bring up concerns, or if this is okay to proceed with. Keegan (WMF) (talk) 17:29, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

"Material in the public domain" needs important clarification[edit]

The section Commons:Licensing#Material in the public_domain lists copyright for various scenarios in the United State, including:

  • For works first published before 1978: until 95 years after the first publication (emphasis as in original)

However, this only applies if the pre-1978 work was published with valid copyright notice, as explained in COM:HIRTLE, Public domain#Published works and {{PD-US-no notice}}. I propose this line be modified to:

  • For works first published with copyright notice before 1978: until 95 years after the first publication

I'm open to changes in the wording of the proposed line, but a distinction between publication and publication with notice is essential. Objections? --Animalparty (talk) 20:26, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

Arshile Gorky and other American artists[edit]

Arshile Gorky, Alexis Jean Fournier and other American artists who died in 1948. Is it possible to upload their work here? Sources say different things about it. ([1], [2]) --Dmitry Rozhkov (talk) 18:47, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

See https://copyright.cornell.edu/publicdomain . Basically, if it was published before 1924, it's in the public domain; if it was published after 2002, it's life+70; if it was published 1989-03-01 to 2002, it's copyrighted until 2047, and anything between 1924-1989 is quite possibly copyrighted, based on a complex set of rules that do not include the life of the author (unless they died after to 1977, in which in some cases means they get a full life+70).
Short answer, no.--Prosfilaes (talk) 23:43, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Game of Thrones and Slza[edit]

Hi, can be uploaded this and this files to Commons? --Patriccck (talk) 09:28, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

@Prosfilaes: Can you please help? Patriccck (talk) 07:04, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
They're fine in the US, but I have no idea what the Czech Republic's threshold of originality is.--Prosfilaes (talk) 22:22, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
@Matěj Orlický, Frettie, Rosičák, Shlomo: Can someone please help? --Patriccck (talk) 12:56, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
I dont think so. --Frettie (talk) 07:59, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

Kebu[edit]

Hello, on the website of the Finnish musician there are pictures available for publication and it says on the website below "Use of these photos in media (print, TV or web) is allowed as long as the photographer is credited (file name contains the name of the photographer). Due to this statement I will upload 1 picture to be published in the articles of Wikipedia. Tokota (talk) 08:19, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

@Tokota: Please don't. This statement is not sufficient for Wikimedia Commons. We need a release under a free license. Regards, Yann (talk) 08:35, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
Look at the picture. It says clearly for which use it is allowed. Tokota (talk) 08:37, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
@Tokota: Yes, but that's not sufficient. Wikipedia is not a media in that sense, but an encyclopedia. Beside please read COM:L before uploading anything here. You have a long list of deleted files because of copyright violation. Thanks, Yann (talk) 08:51, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
@Yann: You must change your politics. Many times I have sent emails from the copyright holders allowing beeing published on Wikipedia that were ignored from you, even 1 picture of myself that was rejected by you. I ignore also. Tokota (talk) 13:38, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
@Tokota: We won't change our policies, but may we can help you. Do you have the ticket numbers for your permissions? Regards, Yann (talk) 13:48, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
@Yann: I will not start now and look through my old emails. This fair is read. I am not interested to insist proving the legalality of the uploaded and distributed pictures from the companies. You should know Tokota. Commons is too severe in judging. Tokota (talk) 15:23, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
@Tokota: Fine, your choice. But you will be blocked if you upload more copyrighted works. Regards, Yann (talk) 15:39, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
@Tokota: A free license must allow any use, and not be restricted to "print, TV, and web" (even though that is a lot). In a movie, for example. On a t-shirt, or whatever. Uploading it is not a violation of law, since we are within the stated license, but it does violate site policy, and the images would be removed without a more explicit permission being sent to OTRS. Carl Lindberg (talk) 17:28, 22 April 2019 (UTC)