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Comments[edit]

Ogg is great. Do not forget mp2, though. Mpeg layer II have acceptable quality at higher bitrates and renamed to MP3 are quite compatible. I don't know if they can be tagged with ID3, though.

Mpeg is a patented format (all of them). Therefore it is incompatible with our goal of producing Free (with a capital F) content. Raul654 01:49, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

I am using Windows XP with Windows media player 9.00 I could not play ogg vedio file inspite of following the steps in help.........Suresh

Ditto. I tried to play Image:Elephant seals mating p1080218.ogg (a video), followed the instructions to the letter, no dice. Ideas? pfctdayelise (translate?) 04:40, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
I don't know anything about Windows Media Player, but I know that VLC will play these files correctly. In fact, VLC will play pretty much any audio/video file! - 220.237.119.76 14:26, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
I couldn't open the link directly but I found that it works if you save the file onto the desktop in its unknown status, then open Media Player up and open the file up from in there. It worked fine then :-) 84.69.240.188 02:07, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

More help on xiph.org[edit]

Hi. The xiph.org website has more info on how to use the free media formats. --OsvaldoGago 11:02, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Extensive help on en:wp[edit]

en:Wikipedia:Media_help_(Ogg) has a lot of info; it would probably be nice to add that link, but I don't want to spoil the pretty layout :)

Once more... a page is either comprehensive or consise -- Duesentrieb(?!) 17:37, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Use picture in wikipedia =[edit]

I really don't undestand how it works... Astrowob 20:11, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Can't encode mp4 properly[edit]

I can't seem to get ffmpeg2theora to encode file mp4 file correctly. I can see video of the resulting .ogg file in VLC, but I can't hear audio. I can watch other ogg/theora files from wikimedia with both video and audio, however. Can someone give my mp4 a try and see if you can convert it? I created the file on Mac in iMovie. I also tried exporting from iMovie to .dv; this crashed ffmpeg2theora. I also tried exporting to .avi first. This worked but the resulting file is 3 times the size of mp4, and video looked awful in avi. But ffmpeg2theora handled .avi without problem. Thanks! Fredhsu 11:34, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

OK, I exported Quicktime .mov from iMovie. ffmpeg2theora finally created an .ogg file with both video and audio. I uploaded it to

. I can download the file again in my browser (firefox) and play it in Quicktime on Mac. But I can't seem to get the file to play in the Java player shown on the page. I can play other .ogg video files in Commons without problem. Does anyone know what is wrong? Fredhsu 04:11, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

midi/ogg[edit]

hi! Does anyone know how to convert mid to ogg???? thankstetraktys 06:31, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Commons accepts midi! pfctdayelise (说什么?) 13:48, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
Theoretically though, you can convert with timidity++ (Well convert to wave, then convert to ogg). However as pfctdayelise said above, its best just to upload the midi. Bawolff 21:47, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
So why does the page "Commons:Media help" say nothing about MIDI? Where else should one look? -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 03:33, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Converting OGGs[edit]

I'm having a terrible time trying to convert the OGG Theora videos to anything that can be used in Adobe Premiere or After Effects. I've installed illiminable's codec and the videos usually play in Windows Media Player, but I've had no luck when I try to convert them with both MediaCoder and Winavi.

Winavi gives me a message saying "Can't decode this file! Maybe the file is broken or the relative decoder is not installed!" and MediaCoder instantly claims the transcoding is completed, but it doesn't seem to actually do anything. It always tells me that 8 MB (or whatever size the .ogg video happens to be) has been transcoded into 0.0 MB, and then it leaves a small 6KB file that won't open.

I've tried using both programs with multiple videos from this site on two different systems (XP and Vista) and I always get the same results. Anyone have any suggestions?

How do you convert OGG Theora videos into ANYTHING?[edit]

I'm having a terrible time trying to convert the OGG Theora videos to anything that can be used in Adobe Premiere or After Effects. I've installed illiminable's codec and the videos usually play in Windows Media Player, but I've had no luck when I try to convert them with both MediaCoder and Winavi.

Winavi gives me a message saying "Can't decode this file! Maybe the file is broken or the relative decoder is not installed!" and MediaCoder instantly claims the transcoding is completed, but it doesn't seem to actually do anything. It always tells me that 8 MB (or whatever size the .ogg video happens to be) has been transcoded into 0.0 MB, and then it leaves a small 6KB file that won't open.

I've tried using both programs with multiple videos from this site on two different systems (XP and Vista) and I always get the same results. Anyone have any suggestions?

SOLUTION: (by sir_jeprez@yahoo.com)

Certain type of bad codecs has been accidentally installed in your system that causes the problem. In order to fix this you have to install the Combined Community Codec Pack (CCCP), a codec pack with some commonly used video and audio codecs. It is one of the more reliable codec packs around, with filters to decode most file formats, including flv, mkv, and ogm.

Download the file in this link:

http://www.ziddu.com/download/2400340/Combined-Community-Codec-Pack-2008-01-24.exe.html

Can I insert "thumbtime" code into video-uploads?[edit]

I need to choose a clear thumbnail for each video-clip so I'm adding thumbtime=n [1] to the template but wonder if it's possible to add this at upload time? Any advice most welcome. Aviceda 09:40, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

changed location for Directshow / Windows Media Player codec - now @ Xiph[edit]

The how to install codecs page still points Windows Media Player users at the old Illuminable site. This has now moved - along with code maintenance - to Xiph at:

http://www.xiph.org/dshow/

Can someone update the link? -> done

Winavi can't decode:[edit]

Certain type of bad codecs has been accidentally installed in your system that causes the problem. In order to fix this you have to install the Combined Community Codec Pack (CCCP), a codec pack with some commonly used video and audio codecs. It is one of the more reliable codec packs around, with filters to decode most file formats, including flv, mkv, and ogm.

Download the file to this link:

http://www.ziddu.com/download/2400340/Combined-Community-Codec-Pack-2008-01-24.exe.html

Won't upload[edit]

I try to upload the converter, it say it's done, and the folder is empty where it was suposed to be. Explain? Ipatrol currently not logged on--216.118.68.193 21:40, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Ogg sound/music files don't play[edit]

Hi. Yet a day before yesterday I could normally click on one of these files, let's say some country's national anthem, and it would play. But now, when I try to click "play" it just show this "more..." sign and nothing happens... for hours. I don't know if this might be the case, but late in the last night I installed firefox 3.0.7 automatic udpate. Anyone? Thx in advance. --83.12.91.242 14:56, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Possibly something wrong with Firefox 3.07, when I play media-files in the browser, my ADSL-router-lights flash excessively and clips seem to freeze. Aviceda (talk) 06:50, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Give Browser Links higher Priority[edit]

We should provide a "more simple" big "click here" direct link for Firefox 3.5. (or any other html5 compatible cross-platform ogg theora/vorbis compatible browser). Since Firefox supports native playback across platforms there is no need to list all the platforms before linking to Firefox. We could list the win/mac/unix platforms later on in the page under something like "more playback methods". -Mdale (talk) 01:12, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

To follow up with-myself.. we also want to improve the platform pages they seem to be focused on playing back the video once you download it instead of supporting in-browser playback -Mdale (talk) 01:15, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
I agree that the media help needs to show more on in-browser playback, not just playing back video. As it stands now, I think many Internet users are confused and think they need to download VLC in order to watch these videos. mahanga (talk) 07:06, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
it is now too complicated, confusing for news users with IE (6,7,8). I am Chrome 4 user but a lot of people don't even know about html 5 - we should consider this--OspreyPL (talk) 22:57, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
people are here for news, content etc not for plug in to windows media player, i think you should totally rebuild this help page - it must be as simple as possible --OspreyPL (talk) 23:00, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Movable player[edit]

Hi

It would be very useful if the player could be move with the mouse or if it remains at the top whenever the page is scrolled down.

It is pretty annoying when you are following the text and have to pause and it is easy to loose track of where you where.

Bcartolo (talk) 23:25, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Freeware to convert common video files to .OGG files?[edit]

Is there any freeware which can convert common video files (e.g. MOV, AVI) to OGG files? Perhaps this has already been dealt with - 86.25.252.142 00:53, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Yes, we have a whole page on it at Help:Converting video. I hope you can find the information you need in there! :-) Killiondude (talk) 00:58, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
Thanks - I'll check it out - 86.25.252.142 01:04, 8 January 2010 (UTC)!

Ogg file not playing[edit]

on my own Wikimedia site ,I did almost everything I know to make the sound play but it came out as "save as a file"

Media:filename for example.ogg




(audio) name blah bla
noicon
blah blah beaten blah blah
Problems listening to the file? See Commons:Sound.



en:Android (operating system)[edit]

Is there any way to play music or video on Android stock web browser? I'm using Samsung Galaxy S. Piotrek54321 (talk) 15:22, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Videos playing upside down and backwards.[edit]

I just downloaded the Ogg codecs for Windows Media Player, but upon playing, the video is rendered upside down and backwards.

  • Windows 2000 SP4
  • Windows Media Player 7.0 or 6.4
  • Xiph.org codecs for Windows Media and DirectShow (latest version)

http://ia600208.us.archive.org/23/items/TrustedComputing/TrustedComputing_LAFKON_HIGH_mpeg1.ogv
http://ricardo12458.co.cc/oggfail.png
The link above is a screenshot displaying the problem. The other link (to the Internet Archive) is the original video, which displays correctly on my web browser (Firefox 8.0)
Any suggestions?
-R
02:14, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

The link to http://ricardo12458.co.cc/oggfail.png doesn't work for me. Which file on Commons are you referring to? -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 09:06, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
Spoke too soon; it just doesn't work reliably. — What happens if you use Mediaplayer Classic instead of Windows Media Player? -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 09:13, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Online audio recorder & uploader[edit]

Is there an easy online tool for recording audio and uploading to commons? Heyzeuss (talk) 11:52, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

It is not online - but it is open source (and free): Audacity. Well, and not totally easy - but also not very hard. --Saibo (Δ) 02:54, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

Invalid link[edit]

This link: http://www.illiminable.com/ogg/ is invalid. —Preceding unsigned comment was added by 79.184.65.85 (talk) 08:33, 8 May 2012‎ (UTC)

It seems that someone messed up their DNS settings.

$ whois illiminable.com

  Updated Date: 04-may-2012
  Creation Date: 10-jul-2002
  Expiration Date: 10-jul-2016

  Domain servers in listed order:
     NS1.REQUESTDNS.COM
     NS2.REQUESTDNS.COM
     NS3.REQUESTDNS.COM
     NS4.REQUESTDNS.COM

$ nslookup www.illiminable.org NS1.REQUESTDNS.COM

(root)  nameserver = J.ROOT-SERVERS.NET
(root)  nameserver = K.ROOT-SERVERS.NET
(root)  nameserver = L.ROOT-SERVERS.NET
(root)  nameserver = M.ROOT-SERVERS.NET
(root)  nameserver = A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET
(root)  nameserver = B.ROOT-SERVERS.NET
(root)  nameserver = C.ROOT-SERVERS.NET
(root)  nameserver = D.ROOT-SERVERS.NET
(root)  nameserver = E.ROOT-SERVERS.NET
(root)  nameserver = F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET
(root)  nameserver = G.ROOT-SERVERS.NET
(root)  nameserver = H.ROOT-SERVERS.NET
(root)  nameserver = I.ROOT-SERVERS.NET
Server:  UnKnown
Address:  203.17.62.100

Name:    www.illiminable.org
Served by:
- G.ROOT-SERVERS.NET
- H.ROOT-SERVERS.NET
- I.ROOT-SERVERS.NET
- J.ROOT-SERVERS.NET
- K.ROOT-SERVERS.NET
- L.ROOT-SERVERS.NET
- M.ROOT-SERVERS.NET
- A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET
- B.ROOT-SERVERS.NET
- C.ROOT-SERVERS.NET
-- Michael Bednarek (talk) 02:39, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Viewing ogg files on iPad[edit]

How to play Ogg Theora/Vorbis files directly on iPad?

When I try I get the message 'open with Dropbox' for example with Surya namaskar. Any suggestion? Wouter (talk) 22:57, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
You need to download VLC app from the app store, and then download the file. (Apple really doesn't like theora/vorbis) Bawolff (talk) 06:49, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

No audio/video with encrypted connection?[edit]

Is it just me, or does audio/video not work with an encrypted (https) connection? On my side (Mac OS X 10.6, Safari 5.1, Wikipedia with standard settings / standard skin) the player works fine with http-connection, but fails to load any audio or video file over https. Is it a known problem? --Tkarcher (talk) 18:21, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

2012 State Of The Union Address (360p).ogv
2012 State Of The Union Address.ogg
Here, with Windows XP + (Firefox | Chrome/native), OGG and OGV files play just fine over HTTPS. IE8/Cortado says: "not allowed" or freezes, but that combination does work for non-HTTPS, i.e. HTTP. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 05:18, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

Order of operating systems[edit]

Why is the order of the links opositly to the circulation of these OS? If most users use Windows and least use Unix, wouldn't it be a good idea to place the WIndows Button on the Top of all, followed by the MacOS one? --93.221.189.56 18:31, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

I concur. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 02:06, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Playing ogg video on current firefox[edit]

clicking this preview does not do anything for me

As the article suggests, my current FF 19.0.2 (Win XP) should be able to play, say, File:Uscoastaurora iss 20120208 2HD web.ogv without further measures. But when I click the preview image, nothing happens. What prerequisites do I need to meet in order to play ogg video inside Firefox ? -- Juergen 91.52.168.227 23:09, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

Same browser/OS works here. Is your problem restricted to this video or does it affect all Wikimedia OGV files? -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 02:11, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

Link to file origin[edit]

Wikimedia Commons screenshot of the newly modified Java player for ogg files, Display 1 sole file with description.jpg

With the newly modified Java applet for playback ogg files, I cannot get a backlink with Win 7 when I open an .ogg file, that is clicking on the MENU I do not get it as a link anymore as some month before (only "Title"). This should be fixed. Who developed it anyway (Oracle or Wikimedia internally)? -- User:Mattes 16:57, 7 April 2013 (UTC) Still not improved :-( --Mattes (talk) 15:47, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

Das ist gar kein Java player, somit hat Oracle damit nichts zu tun. Meinst du, dass der Link nicht geöffnet wird, wenn du auf "Titel" klickst? --McZusatz (talk) 21:31, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
With parameter |thumb
Clicking on the buttons Menu/Info non-talk.svg shows a link to the file's description page for me. Alternatively, if the parameter |thumb is included, it shows the customary enlargement icon (Thumbnail icon.png) on the bottom right. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 00:14, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

The Java player[edit]

When I try watching File:Apelsin spreadthesign.ogv in IE8 the Java player (which doesn't work for me) appears, while when I try watching File:How Open Access Empowered a 16-Year-Old to Make Cancer Breakthrough.ogv, it just prompts me to download the file. Why is there a difference?

Given that the Java player doesn't work, I'd suggest prompting for download on every video in unsupported browsers. Skalman (talk) 11:49, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

One has sound, one doesn't. Its due to a rather silly typo in the code (Fix currently at gerrit:108646 but pending review). Bawolff (talk) 06:47, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Wrong character encoding of URL provided to media player[edit]

The video File:Hallandsåsen_TBM_model_-_01.webm won't play in the online Commons media player. The media player opens, but nothing is shown. In Firefox or Chromium, I can right click on the (empty) video area and select "Show video" or "Open video in new tab", respectively, which will let the internet browser open the media file directly without the Commons media player. However, doing so gives a 404 Not Found, because the URL (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/transcoded/0/08/Hallands%C3%83%C2%A5sen_TBM_model_-_01.webm/Hallands%C3%83%C2%A5sen_TBM_model_-_01.webm.480p.webm) is probably not encoded in the right way. Replacing "Ã¥" with "å" in the URL seems to help. I guess that this is why the Commons media player isn't able to play the file. The problem can also be seen with other files with non ASCII file names, for example File:Gierfähre Rathen.webm. --Luen (talk) 13:21, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the report: bugzilla:56538. --McZusatz (talk) 15:29, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

video test page[edit]

I don't think its appropriate to link this from the help page, but in case its useful to anyone, I'll mention here. I've created a page: http://tools.wmflabs.org/bawolff/video_test.htm which tests browser video support (of Free formats). There's a number of videos on that page. If any of them play then in theory videos should work on commons. If stuff works on that page but not on commons, then its a bug. Bawolff (talk) 01:56, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

toollabs:bawolff is a perfectly legit WMF interwiki from my POV. However, Chrome "click to play" fails miserably starting to play without my permission, Chrome dislikes the for W2K or Java 6 compatibility last free JRE 6.45 (existing security fixes only available for paying customers), and looking at the page over GPRS is NOT RECOMMENDED. Details (current Chrome on current Windows 7 64 over slow GPRS mobile):
  • Commons video: Empty. Inspect element: visbility hidden. Presumably as it should be.
  • Native ogg: Player shown. Click to play: No effect, hangs at begin, nothing clickable (buttons don't work.)
  • Native WebM: Started without permission, stop+restart work, hangs at 0:09, seek/play from 0 to 0:44 fails.
  • Cortado ogg: Started without permission, stop+restart work, hangs at hangs at 0%, clobbers Chrome scrolling, very evil.
  • Object ogg 1: Started without permission, stop+restart barely work, hangs at 00:00, seek/play from 0 to 5:06 has no effect.
  • Object ogg 2: Started without permission, hangs after stop, hangs at 00:05, seek/play from 0 to 0:24 has no effect.
  • Object WebM: Waits for permission, hangs (click has no effect.)

Be..anyone (talk) 00:16, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

No sound for embedded video?[edit]

Why does the embedded player show my video (on the left) without sound? When I use Google Chrome to play the "Original file" directly by the browser, it can play sound. But when I use the embedded player or to play any of the download varieties generated by Commons, the sound is disabled. Did I do anything wrong with my video file? Z22 (talk) 17:13, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, I have the same problems. I tried to convert OPUS (audio) to Vorbis, that works as it should with Mplayer and Windows Media Player on my box, but fails for MPC-HC. I also tried WebM, but that was worse. My best suggestion based on these tests, avoid OPUS like a plague in 2014, it is very far from ready for prime time. –Be..anyone (talk) 12:49, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
Have you already opened a but about it? (I can do it if needed, but I don’t know the case here :) Jean-Fred (talk) 16:57, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
I changed to use on of the "online" options suggested by Commons instead of the Windows options to convert my original file. I uploaded now and all derivatives seem working with audio now. Not sure was it from me using a different conversion tool, or Commons changed something in the upload process that made this problem disappeared. Thanks. Z22 (talk) 18:02, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
It was from the different conversion tool. Your original file had an opus audio track, which currently isn't supported on our site (I'm hoping in about two months with the upgrade to unbuntu trusty, that that will change). Bawolff (talk) 03:31, 8 July 2014 (UTC)