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Wiki Science Competition[edit]

If you want to use Montage for WSC, add your country name and your login(s) in the table below:

Country Name Jury Coordinator Status Link to Campaign
International Now: "rest of the world" User:Alexmar983 ✓ Done
Italy User:Alexmar983 ✓ Done
Ireland User:Smirkybec ✓ Done
Czech Republic User:Jklamo ✓ Done
Brazil User:Chicocvenancio ✓ Done
Spain User:Rubén_Ojeda_(WMES) ✓ Done
Serbia User:Jaradakovic ✓ Done https://tools.wmflabs.org/montage/#/campaign/78-wiki-science-competition-2017-serbia
Germany User:Alexmar983 ✓ Done https://tools.wmflabs.org/montage/#/campaign/79-wiki-science-competition-2017-germany
Belgium User:Alexmar983 ✓ Done https://tools.wmflabs.org/montage/#/campaign/80-wiki-science-competition-2017-belgium
India User:Alexmar983 ✓ Done https://tools.wmflabs.org/montage/#/campaign/81-wiki-science-competition-2017-india
Iran User:Alexmar983 ✓ Done https://tools.wmflabs.org/montage/#/campaign/82-wiki-science-competition-2017-iran
China User:Alexmar983 ✓ Done https://tools.wmflabs.org/montage/#/campaign/83-wiki-science-competition-2017-china
Romania User:Alexmar983 ✓ Done https://tools.wmflabs.org/montage/#/campaign/84-wiki-science-competition-2017-romania
France User:Alexmar983 ✓ Done https://tools.wmflabs.org/montage/#/campaign/97-wiki-science-competition-2017-france
Greece User:Alexmar983 ✓ Done https://tools.wmflabs.org/montage/#/campaign/98-wiki-science-competition-2017-greece
Egypt User:Alexmar983 ✓ Done https://tools.wmflabs.org/montage/#/campaign/100-wiki-science-competition-2017-egypt
Poland User:Alexmar983 ✓ Done https://tools.wmflabs.org/montage/#/campaign/101-wiki-science-competition-2017-poland
Saudi Arabia User:Alexmar983 ✓ Done https://tools.wmflabs.org/montage/#/campaign/103-wiki-science-competition-2017-saudi-arabia
Georgia User:Alexmar983 ✓ Done https://tools.wmflabs.org/montage/#/campaign/104-wiki-science-competition-2017-georgia
International people in science User:Alexmar983 ✓ Done https://tools.wmflabs.org/montage/#/campaign/105-wiki-science-competition-2017-international-people-in-science
International microscopic User:Alexmar983 ✓ Done https://tools.wmflabs.org/montage/#/campaign/106-wiki-science-competition-2017-international-microscopic
International non photographic User:Alexmar983 ✓ Done https://tools.wmflabs.org/montage/#/campaign/107-wiki-science-competition-2017-international-non-photographic
International General User:Alexmar983 ✓ Done https://tools.wmflabs.org/montage/#/campaign/108-wiki-science-competition-2017-international-general

International campaign and more[edit]

@Alexmar983: It's exciting to see a new place Montage will be helpful. :) Thanks for your requests. Can you let me know by when you need these campaigns set up? Also, is there a page on wiki that you are aware of that shows the start and end date and time of these campaigns? This way, I can use the information in that page when creating your campaigns. --LilyOfTheWest (talk) 06:45, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

I have some experience with montage as a juror, and I asked many questions also to the guy in charge of the process so I think I know enough, and this would work smoothly. To answer your question, ending dates are listed here but most of the countries without juries will have few uploads so we will probably do them manually. I guess I will probably ask you to use montage for only one or two big countries after Dec, 1st and Italy, that's for sure, after dec, 15th.--Alexmar983 (talk) 07:55, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
Ops LilyOfTheWest I cut the first sentence of my edit where I was pinging you and thanking you. So thank you, and here is the ping.--Alexmar983 (talk) 07:57, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
This all sounds good. Just a heads up that I will go on vacation starting December 16, and while I may check here or my email, I can't guarantee availability. If you want me to set up a campaign for you before I leave, please let me know a few days before that date. And, happy to hear that you already know your way around Montage. :) --LilyOfTheWest (talk) 05:27, 22 November 2017 (UTC)
@Alexmar983: Campaign international and Campaign Italy are both ready. Please go over the instructions carefully, especially when it comes to setting the beginning and end time of your campaigns. You can exclude photos unintentionally if you don't pay attention to details there. Good luck, and ping if you have questions. --LilyOfTheWest (talk) 00:47, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

@Jklamo: @Smirkybec: Thanks for signing up to use Montage. Can you let me know a bit more about this contest? At the very least, it's good for us to know when you would like to start the voting and by when you expect your jury's work to be done? This information can help us set up the campaigns for you, but also make sure we don't schedule any major maintenance for the tool until your work is over. Thanks! --LilyOfTheWest (talk) 02:59, 27 November 2017 (UTC)

For the Czech Republic, uploading end today and the jury will work this week. --Jklamo (talk) 16:01, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
@Jklamo: Your campaign is ready. Please go over the instructions carefully, especially when it comes to setting the beginning and end time of your campaigns. You can exclude photos unintentionally if you don't pay attention to details there. Good luck, and ping if you have questions. --LilyOfTheWest (talk) 00:42, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
Thank you LilyOfTheWest I'll read carefully the instruction this week end. the deadline under the titles "1 Nov 2017 - 28 Nov 2017" are not correct, but I don't think this is an issue. I will start with some countries without jury and more than 50 pictures such as Germany and Greece.--Alexmar983 (talk) 05:14, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
LilyOfTheWest I postponed everything on the 15th for a longer upload and we are ready to start even tomorrow but please notice that "international" means more than one campaign (the table is a work in progress). So considering I have to make practice I'd like to start with a campaign for one of the countries where all the jurors are expert users, and have also used montage in the past. Can we start with Germany? Can you create that, I can give it to users who are all expert of he mechanism of the tool. Also, since the files are imported from a Commons category I would like to be sure if this applies or not to subcategories. So if a create a category of "unsuitable" submissions to reduce the workflow to the jurors, when I select the file in the country-level category Category:Images from Wiki Science Competition 2017 in Italy they won't include those in Category:Obviously_ineligible_submissions_for_WSC_2017_in_Italy, am I right?--Alexmar983 (talk) 07:17, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
@Alexmar983: I see. that was a misunderstanding on my end then. I will delete that campaign if the tool allows me. How many countries do you expect to need a campaign for? (And yes, we can start from Germany). --LilyOfTheWest (talk) 04:36, 18 December 2017 (UTC)
User talk:LilyOfTheWest don't delete them. I have both an Italian campaign (waiting to know the last juror username to start it) and an international one, on Category:Images_from_Wiki_Science_Competition_2017_in_the_rest_of_the_world (which ends on December, 31st). But we will have other countries... like Germany or India the problem is that with 80 countries under my jurisdiction I cannot make you a list from the beginning, I have to use the tool once and than decide on which ones of the other countries I will use it or not, depending on how fast it was compared to the manual option based on the files I see in those categories. So, the use depend on the amount of files to analyze and to know that, I need an answer to this question: if I remove the unsuitable files to a subcategory will the tool read them or not? it's the example I did you above, If I put the terrible files myself in Category:Obviously_ineligible_submissions_for_WSC_2017_in_Italy the jurors for Category:Images from Wiki Science Competition 2017 in Italy won't see them?--Alexmar983 (talk) 04:51, 18 December 2017 (UTC)
@Alexmar983: Ok, no deleting of the international campaign then. I was confused by your use-case. I'll leave it there. Regarding your question: You will provide the category that the tool should read from as an input to the round 1 for each campaign. If you provide Category:Images from Wiki Science Competition 2017 in Italy as the "seed" category, all photos in that category will be read. There are a few ways you can exclude photos the way you are doing it now for Montage:
  • You can create a list of files that are eligible and have montage read those files as entry files to your round 1. Depending on how many files you have, this can be a lengthy process (some minutes).
  • You can add an "eligible" category to the photos that are eligible, and have montage read the eligible photos using this new category.
  • You can read all photos in Montage using a category such as Category:Images from Wiki Science Competition 2017 in Italy. Then in the tool, you can create a Round 0 as a Yes/No round and you can set yourself as the juror. Then, you can use the tool and give No to any photo that you want to exclude. You can then create Round 1 with all photos that received Yes from you in Round 0. I like this approach the best as it keeps all the voting in one place. The Yes/No voting is also relatively fast in the tool.
Which method you choose is your call. Let me know if this answers your question. --LilyOfTheWest (talk) 20:57, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

LilyOfTheWest I suspect your "solved" tags probably made this section archived while they were new requests... the bot removed my update few hours after I put it. In any case, there is still work to organize. Not sure about one or two final countries for the table... I only have two hands, this can't be all smooth, it's a lot of diluted work coordinating many people, sorry. I will at least another week to be 100% sure.

In addition to that, there is the very final main international jurors duty in one month or later. Such duty however will be split in 5 categories so in five different competitions. I try to keep it simple, so I will ask it to you LilyOfTheWest in a totally different thread.--Alexmar983 (talk) 08:33, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

LilyOfTheWest the bot keeps removing it, please hurry up! :D--Alexmar983 (talk) 10:18, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
@LilyOfTheWest: hmm. :D sorry about it. I think I used the template by mistake. I assumed that it can be applied to subsections, but it seems it archives the whole section as long as it appears somewhere in the section. I will remove all requests for archival by the bot so we can work on this section at peace. Sorry about the semi-mess. --LilyOfTheWest (talk) 18:36, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
No problem... that is not the worst "problem" I found on my way in these last two months... not at all.--Alexmar983 (talk) 03:02, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Ireland[edit]

@Smirkybec: Your campaign [ready]. Please go over the instructions carefully, especially when it comes to setting the beginning and end time of your campaigns. You can exclude photos unintentionally if you don't pay attention to details there. Good luck, and ping if you have questions. --LilyOfTheWest (talk) 00:42, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

Hi @LilyOfTheWest:, thank you so much! At the moment Ireland only has 43 images uploaded, so there is a good chance we won't need Montage now. If we do I should be able to spot when images are missing, I've checked that page so much, I know the images well at this point. Thanks again! Smirkybec (talk) 13:03, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

Brazil[edit]

LilyOfTheWest It would be nice to use Montage for the Brazilian jury as well. Chico Venancio (talk) 00:06, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

@Chicocvenancio: sorry that we couldn't help you when you requested help. We could add a campaign for you but we didn't have capacity to provide support if something would have gone wrong. Now I have some more time to help you if it's still helpful for you. I understand that you needed it then and it may be too late now, but I figured to least tell you we are available now. --LilyOfTheWest (talk) 22:38, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
LilyOfTheWest It actually is, due to a personal problem I was unable to organize the jury selection and I think montage would ease the necessary work. Thank you very much. Chico Venancio (talk) 16:39, 21 December 2017 (UTC)
@Chicocvenancio: Your campaign is ready. Please go over the instructions very carefully (I can't overemphasize this. Things can go wrong without you getting an error about them if you don't follow them carefully), especially when it comes to setting the beginning and end time of your campaigns. You can exclude photos unintentionally if you don't pay attention to details there. Good luck, and ping if you have questions. --LilyOfTheWest (talk) 14:42, 22 December 2017 (UTC)
LilyOfTheWest Is there a way to add a juror to a round after it has started? Or to recreate it keeping the already ratings in the images? Somehow I left out a juror in the round. Thanks for the help. Chico Venancio (talk) 17:46, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
@Chicocvenancio: You can add a juror and the tasks left will be reassigned. Note that you cannot control which juror gets how many new tasks, so some of your jurors who have finished their work will likely get more tasks assigned to them which you may not want. I check your round 1 and quorum is set to 2. This means you can remove the jurors who have finished their voting and add the new juror after that step. The votes of the jurors you remove will remain in the system, so don't worry about that. --LilyOfTheWest (talk) 05:35, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

LilyOfTheWest I had no mail from User:Chicocvenancio. If you have time, could you tell me what it the status of Brazil?--Alexmar983 (talk) 21:51, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

@Alexmar983: I can definitely check, but the issue is that I will need Chicocvenancio's permission to share the status of their campaign with others. :( I'm sorry, I think it's best if we don't share this information. --LilyOfTheWest (talk) 07:22, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
I mailed weeks ago and I ping him now, I have also asked the organizers to contact him again. I cannot make this request more transparent than this way. I had other emergencies (Poland, Saudi Arabia, Georgia) to fix but they are completed now, and this is our bottleneck and if I cannot do anything with the current campaign, like I cannot even have any estimation of its status, I am forced to bypass it completely in few days. He told me on May, the 4th he was at the last round, so is he having trouble to make all jurors vote? No problem, the last round can export the data with not all the jurors, I can find new ones. I am flexible to all strategies but at least if I know that status I can organize the process in a better way. If I get no reply, I am not sure that in the framework of an emergency wasting totally someone's work after mail and ping is more respectful than trying to recover part of it (if this is the case, again, i don't know). Also, as a matter of transparency, I have to clearly write who is doing the final selection. If I add it on the top of someone else's work they get recognition. If I bypass it completely, I have to write down only the jurors who effectively did the work at the last minute, that does not look an optimal solution to me.--Alexmar983 (talk) 10:50, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
I write also to some of the jurors.--Alexmar983 (talk) 23:00, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

LilyOfTheWest please we can't stay on hold like this. If you simply send me the xls summary of the second tound, so I have enough data to insert some decent finalists in Commons:Wiki_Science_Competition_2017/Winners/Brazil. it does not matter if a juror is missing.User:Chicocvenancio can delcare the precise national winners with the timeline he thinks it's better. I don't want to exclude Brazil completely or just bypass his work if there is some data to use.--Alexmar983 (talk) 16:20, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

He wrote to me and send me the files! All is good. Thank you again.--Alexmar983 (talk) 17:46, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Serbia[edit]

@Jaradakovic: Your campaign is ready. Please go over the instructions carefully, especially when it comes to setting the beginning and end time of your campaigns. You can exclude photos unintentionally if you don't pay attention to details there. Good luck, and ping if you have questions. --LilyOfTheWest (talk) 19:40, 1 January 2018 (UTC)

Saudi Arabia[edit]

Hi LilyOfTheWest the local organizers told us they haven't done any selelction, I need to do quickly also this country. Can you create it? Thank you. --Alexmar983 (talk) 13:19, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

LilyOfTheWest I have informed the jurors, as soon as you give me the campaign I can start. Thanks.--Alexmar983 (talk) 14:27, 6 May 2018 (UTC)--Alexmar983 (talk) 14:27, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
Slaporte I ping you too... just in case.--Alexmar983 (talk) 21:00, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
@Alexmar983: Very sorry for the delay. Please check the table. ✓ Done
Thank you LilyOfTheWest, please give me also Georgia and I hope this is the last one (seriously, I was not supposed to do these new ones originally...)--Alexmar983 (talk) 23:43, 22 May 2018 (UTC)
@Alexmar983: Done. Please check the table above. --LilyOfTheWest (talk) 05:13, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

Georgia[edit]

Slaporte, LilyOfTheWest It seems I need also this campaign, thanks in advance.--Alexmar983 (talk) 12:38, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

International[edit]

Slaporte, LilyOfTheWest can you create the four "international" categories (people in science, microscopic images and macro-photography, non photographic media, general) for the main trnasnational jury? Thank you!--Alexmar983 (talk) 21:55, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

@Alexmar983: Done. Please check the table above. --LilyOfTheWest (talk) 07:28, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
LilyOfTheWest that's perfect.--Alexmar983 (talk) 10:43, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Deleted pictures[edit]

Hello, during the evaluation of picture for Wiki Science Competition, I had to evaluate a picture that did not show up (the picture was continuously loading). I understood later that this picture had been deleted. Does Montage manage such behaviour properly? Pamputt (talk) 08:48, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

Not quite yet, we're working on addressing this. You can subscribe to this issue on github if you want to track the feature. For now, you can just skip the file if it does not load. Slaporte (talk) 08:50, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
I was also going to point out, it's my list of final feedbacks...--Alexmar983 (talk) 08:21, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

xls summary[edit]

Hi, I want to point out that with my very very new PC with Windows 10 and office package, the downloaded xls files is unusable, because the columns do not discriminate the data, it is all one row as text. On my old MAC with an old MS office package, no problem! The table is very clear, the name of files and the data of each jurors on one column, as it should be.--Alexmar983 (talk) 08:42, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

@Yarl: is this related to front-end? --LilyOfTheWest (talk) 18:38, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

impossible to save "description" text together with the rest[edit]

Hi, I have seen this happening consistently. When I save a 2nd or 3rd round (not sure about the 1st) the first time I click on "save" (before you can activate, the first creation) whatever I have written in the description just vanishes. it saves everything in a bulk but such text. I have than to re-edit the round, than I finally activate it. It's not a big deal, I simply copy and paste or don't write anything before saving the first time, but I am quite sure it is a bug. I think it occurs on all my computers, but for sure I remember this happening clearly on Firefox for windows 10.--Alexmar983 (talk) 11:24, 25 January 2018 (UTC)

Non-Latin alphabets[edit]

The tool does not import decently namefile in Arabic or Greek on xls, in some countries I have a problem to understand the finalist... i have to ask the jurors what they vote to be sure.--Alexmar983 (talk) 12:09, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

bug with third round[edit]

LilyOfTheWest we have a big problem with my current Iran campaign... since yesterday it creates me no usable round... it seems all fine but when jurors try to open it, nothing works! I see 31 imported files in the summary under their name, they see nothing at all!--Alexmar983 (talk) 12:13, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

@Alexmar983: It's not clear to me why your jurors are not able to vote.
@Yarl: can you look into this soon?

--LilyOfTheWest (talk) 18:26, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

LilyOfTheWest there are a lot of files with long non-Latin titles (maybe a "buffer" problem?) but this was true also with the other steps. that is the only "difference" i can think about! In any case feel free to recreate it yourself just to see if this changes something. I did it four times with four different combination of OS and browsers, than I gave up. The problems was shared by three different jurors, so it was not "local".--Alexmar983 (talk) 03:15, 4 February 2018 (UTC)
I saw another additional juror with no photo, I asked around, still frozen... reacreated... still froze. Should be starta again from zero LilyOfTheWest?--Alexmar983 (talk) 15:30, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
@Yarl:@Slaporte: can you look into this? --LilyOfTheWest (talk) 02:27, 10 February 2018 (UTC)
@Yarl: was the one who add his name as a juror... but still it wasn't working. Really, should we create it again from zero? it's not a solution but the juror are expert now so they can revote quickly.--Alexmar983 (talk) 08:31, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

@LilyOfTheWest:, @Yarl:@Slaporte:... if you don't know how to solve it I need a third phase because I cannot understand the name of the file the way they are exported, a need a limited number to understand which is which. Please give me another for iran, we restart...I am losing too much time here.--Alexmar983 (talk) 12:34, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

File does not open on commons because of "?" in title[edit]

It's not a big deal (it is not very common) but file as such this one cannot be open because the link does not read the code"%3F" but remains "?", so it opens this error message.--Alexmar983 (talk) 15:30, 8 February 2018 (UTC)

this file also does not open through Montage.--Alexmar983 (talk) 11:19, 20 February 2018 (UTC)

Replace a name[edit]

Hi @LilyOfTheWest:, @Yarl:@Slaporte:, a juror does not vote and I need to go further. Is it possible to remove it? Or change it with another user?--Alexmar983 (talk) 12:36, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

ok he voted right yesterday, this remains a theoretical question.--Alexmar983 (talk) 04:11, 14 February 2018 (UTC)

Wiki Loves Earth 2018[edit]

Country Name Jury Coordinator Status Link to Campaign
Latvia User:Papuass ✓ Done https://tools.wmflabs.org/montage/#/campaign/109-wiki-loves-earth-2018-latvia
Spain User:Rubén_Ojeda_(WMES) ✓ Done https://tools.wmflabs.org/montage/#/campaign/110-wiki-loves-earth-2018-spain
Australia User:Gnangarra ✓ Done https://tools.wmflabs.org/montage/#/campaign/111-wiki-loves-earth-2018-australia
France User:VIGNERON ✓ Done https://tools.wmflabs.org/montage/#/campaign/112-wiki-loves-earth-2018-france
Russia User:SKas ✓ Done https://tools.wmflabs.org/montage/#/campaign/114-wiki-loves-earth-2018-russia
Georgia Mehman97 ✓ Done https://tools.wmflabs.org/montage/#/campaign/118-wiki-loves-earth-2018-georgia
Greece Geraki ✓ Done https://tools.wmflabs.org/montage/#/campaign/115-wiki-loves-earth-2018-greece
Italy CristianNX ✓ Done https://tools.wmflabs.org/montage/#/campaign/117-wiki-loves-earth-2018-italy
Sweden Axel Pettersson (WMSE) ✓ Done https://tools.wmflabs.org/montage/#/campaign/116-wiki-loves-earth-2018-sweden
Moldova Gikü ✓ Done https://tools.wmflabs.org/montage/#/campaign/119-wiki-loves-earth-2018-moldova

Hi, LilyOfTheWest, we would like to set up campaign for Wiki Loves Earth 2018 in Latvia. Has anything changed since WLM? --Papuass (talk) 15:53, 28 May 2018 (UTC)

@Papuass: Not much has changed, though we hope to change things for WLM. ;) User:Atsirlin has stepped up to help with handling WLE requests for Montage. Please give us a couple of days and we will set up your campaign. --LilyOfTheWest (talk) 05:14, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
Papuass, I created a campaign for you. Please, review the instructions and give it a try. I added myself as the second coordinator in case you need help with setting things up. --Alexander (talk) 07:17, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Rubén_Ojeda, Gnangarra, your campaigns are ready too. Please, review the instructions and let me know if you need help with creating the first round. --Alexander (talk) 00:00, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

@Atsirlin: after some discussion, we will use Montage fro WLE France too. Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 07:41, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
VIGNERON, here you go. --Alexander (talk) 13:06, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
Thank you LilyOfTheWest and Atsirlin!. --Rubén Ojeda (WMES) (talk) 08:54, 8 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi LilyOfTheWest and Atsirlin. We already finished our first round. Could you create a new round with this category?. Thanks!. --Rubén Ojeda (WMES) (talk) 12:45, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

Rubén Ojeda (WMES), normally, you should just finalize the results of round 1 and create yourself round 2 based on the outcome of the round 1. Is there a reason why you want to do it differently? --Alexander (talk) 13:07, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
Yes, because the category is not the same. --Rubén Ojeda (WMES) (talk) 13:42, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
Rubén Ojeda (WMES), I have created another campaign for you. --Alexander (talk) 07:19, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi LilyOfTheWest and Atsirlin, we would like to create a campaign for Greece (our own tool failed after moving server). Can we have it ASAP? (contest ended last month, jury should be working already). -Geraki TLG 10:40, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

Geraki, done. --Alexander (talk) 11:38, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi LilyOfTheWest! In the past two year I was very satisfied using Montage for WLM, so I would like to use it also for this first edition of WLE in Italy. The contest is still running, so we will start the jury phase from July 1st. --CristianNX 11:00, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi LilyOfTheWest, could you set up a first round for me for WLE Sweden please. Thanks in advance. /Axel Pettersson (WMSE) (talk) 07:43, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

@Axel Pettersson (WMSE): @CristianNX: thanks for the ping. @Atsirlin: has offered to help setting up the campaigns for WLE. :) --LilyOfTheWest (talk) 05:50, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
Axel Pettersson (WMSE), done. --Alexander (talk) 07:08, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
Great, huge amounts of thanks Alexander. /Axel Pettersson (WMSE) (talk) 07:10, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
Dear @Atsirlin:, today or tomorrow could you please activate the campaign for Italy? Thanks --CristianNX 13:27, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

Hi @LilyOfTheWest, Atsirlin: I would like to use Montage this year during jury evaluation on Wiki Loves Earth Moldova. I will be the coordinator and one of the jury members, the other two are Alex Prodan md and Roman Friptuleac. Thank you. Gikü (talk) 12:30, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

Gikü, done. --Alexander (talk) 14:31, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

Problem with Round 2[edit]

Dear @Atsirlin, LilyOfTheWest:, today our jurors finished with round 1, but I can't start round 2 due to an error: Multiple rows were found for one_or_none. Could you please help us? Thanks, --CristianNX 11:40, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

Leila, Mahmoud, Stephen, Paweł: I confirm that the problem is there. The full error message reads as

Internal server error: <ExceptionInfo [sqlalchemy.orm.exc.MultipleResultsFound: Multiple rows were found for one_or_none()] (31 frames, last=Callpoint('one_or_none', 2698, 'sqlalchemy.orm.query', '/data/project/montage/www/python/venv/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/sqlalchemy/orm/query.py', 72, ' "Multiple rows were found for one_or_none()")'))>

--Alexander (talk) 15:09, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
Cristian, I have no access to the code of Montage, so I can't really help here. If the developers are unable to fix the problem on a short time scale, one should place the photos selected in round 1 into a separate category and start a new Montage campaign using that category. I can help you to arrange this, if needed (but, of course, I have to know your threshold grade in round 1). --Alexander (talk) 15:09, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
Dear Alexander, thank you for you help. Your solution is good (I was thinking the same). The threshold grade is 6.66, so 687 pictures: you can add them here, thank you very much! Could you please create for me 2 new campaigns (1 for the rating round for this jury and 1 for the final jury, that will be made from other jurors - professional photographers - and will work with the "finalists")? Thank you in advice, --CristianNX 15:56, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
@Atsirlin: I'm moving the files by myself (using VisualFileChange). I just need the new campaigns on Montage. Thanks. --CristianNX 10:04, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
Or @Atsirlin: or @LilyOfTheWest:, I hope someone can do it today, cause we are in a hurry! :-) --CristianNX 16:00, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
Cristian, here is your new campaign. I have not created the second one, because you can still try to make it as the second round of the previous one. Should it not work, I will create yet another campaign for you, but I suggest that we don't generate more campaigns than necessary. I apologize for the slow response, but my internet connection is really intermittent these days. It should improve in about a week from now, and I will respond faster. Good luck! --Alexander (talk) 16:02, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
Don't worry Alexander, thank you very much! --CristianNX 16:07, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
The problem is still there!!! Also with the new campaign with the new category! Please help! --CristianNX 16:53, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
The problem is adding User:Settimioma. Why? --CristianNX 17:14, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for debugging! I suggest that you file a bug report on this. I don't know what else we can do ourselves. --Alexander (talk) 23:00, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

Quorum[edit]

Hi Alexander, we have a problem at https://tools.wmflabs.org/montage/#/campaign/115-wiki-loves-earth-2018-greece

I had set the quorum at 5 (initially 4). Looking at the number of tasks, files per juror, the csv data etc I came to the conclusion that while set to 5, Montage divided the files for a quorum of 2. Experimenting I set it to 6. The only thing that Montage did was to divide the remaing open tasks between all the jurors, giving more tasks to jurors that had already finished and less to jurors that didn't start. Again, the quorum was set to 6 and Montage used 2. Now the quorum cannot be decreased. This is obviously a bug. It has to be checked and repaired, so that we can set again the quorum at 4 jurors and montage to rearrange the files to this (and not 2). -Geraki TLG 10:59, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

Geraki, I have no access to the code, so I can't say what is really happening. I ping Leila and hope that she can communicate this problem to the developers.
My user's experience is that Montage makes a non-obvious re-distribution of the tasks whenever you change something during the round. Therefore, it is highly advisable that you check everything before pressing the 'Activate' button for the next round. Regarding your problem with the number of jurors, I never experienced that. We tried many different distributions of photos between jurors for Russia (WLE-2018 and in previous contests), and it always worked well. --Alexander (talk) 11:15, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
@Geraki: As Alexander mentioned, the redistribution happens automatically in the tool. It's based on the productivity of the jurors, so the more work you have finished as a juror, the more will be assigned to you. If you don't want a juror to receive more photos, you need to remove them from the tool. This is of course not always possible, for example, if you have reached the minimum number of jurors you can have per quorum. Re quorum changes: If I recall correctly, you can change the number in one direction but not the other. Geraki are you at the moment blocked on any of these? Otherwise, we are aware of these and they are part of our feature change pile. --LilyOfTheWest (talk) 04:51, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

Montage and Wiki Loves Monuments 2018[edit]

Country Name Jury Coordinator Status Link to Campaign
Morocco User:abdeaitali
Romania User:Andrei Stroe
Georgia Mehman97 1 October
Finland User:Susannaanas
India User:Sumitsurai
Sweden User:Axel Pettersson (WMSE)

Hi. I am going to be part of the jury for Wiki Loves Monuments 2018 Romania and would like to be able to use the Montage tool for that purpose.—Andrei S. Talk 06:52, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

I created a table for that as we also plan to use the tool :) -- Abdeaitali (talk) 20:58, 28 July 2018 (UTC)
Adding Sweden to the table. Thanks in advance. /Axel Pettersson (WMSE) (talk) 09:19, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Wiki Loves ZEOs[edit]

Hi! I would like to ask to create a campaign for Wiki Loves ZEOs 2018 and one for testing purposes. The coordinator of the contest is me. --Sahaquiel - Hast du eine Frage? Coat of arms of Germany.svg 15:11, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

@Atsirlin: is this something you could help with by any chance? Effeietsanders (talk) 21:16, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
Effeietsanders, I am not sure if I am eligible. Am I allowed to create campaigns for all possible contests? Do you know? (if yes, I will surely create one) --Alexander (talk) 21:57, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
@Atsirlin: I don't see a particular objection. Maybe unless there's a coordinator already for other competitions such as WLM (just to make sure that we keep things as clear as possible). @LilyOfTheWest:, do you see any issue? Effeietsanders (talk) 22:04, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
Hi! Any update? Thanks! Sahaquiel - Hast du eine Frage? Coat of arms of Germany.svg 01:06, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
Sahaquiel, sorry for the delay. To be honest, I have not heard back from Leila, but I assume she is fine if I handle this request.
I noted down that this campaign should be created on September 1. It won't make sense to create the campaign now, because all photos should be imported in Montage at the same time. It is not possible to import additional photos later.
Please, give me a ping on September 1 in case I forget about this task. --Alexander (talk) 07:25, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
Thanks! I attended Wikimania, and saw there the talk about Montage (that's why I discovered this marvelous tool) and talk there with LilyOfTheWest. I didn't mention directly WLZ, only my doubts on how to user to tool (thinking in apply it on WLZ). Until September 1! Thanks! Sahaquiel - Hast du eine Frage? Coat of arms of Germany.svg 17:12, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

Montage access for WLM query[edit]

Hi! I have a question regarding the Montage access. We are organising the WLM2018 India and requested access for Montage for the same. Could you please let us know when the access will be given? I heard it is given in October after the competition ends so that all the images are imported to Montage together. If this is true, are there any suggested steps to eliminate the images which do not follow the competition rules (Photos of monuments which are not listed, irrelevant photos etc.) before the jury team starts deciding on the relevant images? Because if we start from October the schedule will become very tight. Thanks. Sumit Surai (talk) 15:29, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Sumitsurai,
Please make sure the information in the table above is up to date, and then you'll get access early October. The images will then be imported from the category. You can eliminate images by removing the Wiki Loves Monuments template from the image before import. Effeietsanders (talk) 18:39, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
Hi @Effeietsanders:, thanks for the reply. Is it ok if we do not remove the Wiki Loves Monuments template but just shift those images into another category, say [[Category:Reviewed images from Wiki Loves Monuments 2018 in India]], so that when we import the main category, we dont have to import those already first screened images. -- Bodhisattwa (talk) 07:14, 17 August 2018 (UTC)