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User:Drown Soda[edit]

This editor has been steadily uploading images with grossly deficient PD claims, often with claims that are transparently invalid. As the deletion notices on their talk page show, this is an ongoing problem dating back at least two years. Editor was blocked twice a few years ago over copyright issues (flickrwashing).

Among the problems in recent uploads have been:

  • Claiming PD-US-no notice on an image with a clearly evident copyright notice (File:Eve Arden 1938.jpg, speedy deleted)
  • Claiming PD-US-nonrenewal on an image sourced to a 2005 book, with no information regarding the original (or any prior) publication, and therefore no plausible way to search for the copyright renewal (File:Jean Brooks headshot 1939.jpg, deletion pending)
  • Claiming PD-US-nonrenewal on an image with no information regarding the original publication, and therefore no plausible way to search for the copyright renewal, as well as metadata text suggesting European publication (where renewal would not have been required) (File:Carroll Baker headshot, The Carpetbaggers.jpg, deletion pending)
  • Claiming PD-US-no notice on an image with a clearly evident stamp from a UK photo agency, indicating UK publication, where no notice would have been required (File:Amy Irving 1978.png, deletion pending)
  • Claiming free image status on an image with a noncommercial use only CC-license (File:Doris Duke portrait.jpg, speedy deleted)
  • Claiming PD-US-no notice on a photo found on Ebay with no information indicating prior publication, described as part of a collection of mostly unpublished photos (File:Lana Turner and Susan Peters in Keep Your Powder Dry.jpg, deletion pending)
  • Claiming PD-government work on a newspaper photo donated to a public library, with no indication that the copyright was also donated (which wouldn't make the photo a government work), where the library states that images in its collection are not necessarily public domain (File:Defendant Barbara Graham.jpg, deletion pending)
  • Claiming PD-US-no notice on a photo carrying two different copyright stamps (for Italy and Sweden), but no indication of US publication (File:Carroll Baker c. 1965 in Rome.png, deletion pending)

The list goes on and on. It appears to me that the majority of this editor's uploads (not counting flickr transfers and modifications of other Commons images) are deficient, sometimes indisputable violations. Despite the many violations reported on their talk page, the editor has not meaningfully responded or corrected their misbehaviour. Given the past history, I don't think anything short of a block or topic ban will convince them to improve their uploading practices. The amount of other editors' time and effort that's likely going to be required to clean up this mess will be substantial, and without action it's only going to grow. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (talk) 20:30, 10 September 2017 (UTC)

I suppose I'm not understanding the parameters of licenses in regard to publicity photos & stills from films/of actors, which is mainly what I upload. The bulk of these from my recollection I tagged with the PD-Pre1978 tag, which to my understanding applied to publicity photos that did not have clear copyright markings on them which were published prior to 1978. So far as File:Lana Turner and Susan Peters in Keep Your Powder Dry.jpg is concerned, it would seem to me that this qualifies; I also never described the image as being part of a set of unpublished photos, so I'm not sure if that's a mistake/misattribution intended for a different file. One of the images you cited (File:Carroll Baker c. 1965 in Rome.png) does in fact have the copyright stamps which I had not noticed, otherwise I wouldn't have uploaded it. The now-deleted Doris Duke portrait was also a mistake as I didn't realize the non-commercial reuse was part of the licensing. As I said, I'm not particularly well-versed in copyright statuses for photos, and I've mostly learned what does/doesn't qualify and what is/isn't acceptable based on images that are already uploaded in the Commons and based it on those parameters. I received the numerous notifications on my talk page this afternoon, but see no need in defending each of them as my judgment has been proven incorrect for most all of the notices. --Drown Soda (talk) 22:14, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
Down Soda, your understanding of the standards for "publicity photographs" is dead wrong. Just labeling something a "publicity photograph" does not excuse you from providing evidence that the photo was previously published, that the original publication occurred in the jurisdiction the licensing tag pertains to, the date of publication, and the manner of publication, to the extent that is relevant to the licensing tag. With regard to File:Lana Turner and Susan Peters in Keep Your Powder Dry.jpg, you provided no information whatever regarding these points. The year the photo was taken wasn't relevant. Not only that, the Ebay source page described it as coming from a collection of mostly unpublished photographs. When the source says it's likely unpublished, that pretty much tells you it's not suitable for Commons. (There are exceptions, but they require a license for the specific country where the photo was created and under whose laws the PD claim is made). The Big Bad Wolfowitz (talk) 17:05, 17 September 2017 (UTC)

User:We_hope might be able to provide information about best practices in this area... AnonMoos (talk) 09:30, 22 September 2017 (UTC)


I file yet another complaint against user Tm, who ignores issues raised about one's work, doesn't let other people resolve such issues, and doesn't care to discuss nor explain one's actions. One ignores category talk comments like this and only cares to revert attempts to resolve an issue, again without meaningful explanation. A talk thread about similar issues on one's own talk page gets reverted with a harassing edit comment. That sort of behaviour shouldn't be tolerated on Commons.

Issues raised at COM:AN in July about careless categorization also persist. Now after bringing that issue to different venue (a CfD, where Tm participated mainly in order to cast personal attacks) Tm still keeps categorizing images en masse as "unidentified politicians" without caring to check whether depicted persons are politicians or whether they are unidentified or whether any depicted person needs to be identified. 13:18, 13 September 2017 (UTC)

The post to Tm's talk page was read and deleted. I find it perfectly reasonable, and within policy, for any logged-in contributor to ignore anon IPs, rather than taking the risk of being later accused of aiding banned users, considering that the repercussions may include being WMF blocked without chance of appeal. Given this context, removing posts from anonymous accounts from your own user talk page, is not something one should be required to defend, or even have to worry about.

Given that yesterday, one of our long term contributors has been so worried by an anon IP, that they have been considering retiring from this project, if Tm requests it, it may be reasonable to temporarily protect their talk page so that only logged-in accounts can post there. -- (talk) 13:29, 13 September 2017 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but this is a rather lame excuse to ignore actual content issues. If there are concerns about some other user, no matter whether logged in or not, for one's behaviour or for an actual reason to believe that one's a sock, then this is a different issue. I'm happy to discuss concerns on other venues than user talk too, and I've tried to do so, though being ignored.
Simply editing without being logged in is in compliance with terms of use and privacy policy, harassing someone for that however is not. 14:00, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
Those IP's are all the same?

If yes: Problematic edit pattern - Controversial edits under multiple ip's. --Steinsplitter (talk) 13:37, 13 September 2017 (UTC)

I believe there should be some sort of behavioural evidence to tie different names/numbers. Based on what you tie three first addresses with me? (If something is believed to be there, then please make it into a different topic.) Obviously I haven't had the same address since the beginning of times, but this in itself shouldn't be a problem. 14:00, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
I didn't read you comment carefully enough earlier. Seems you suggest that in addition to possibly problematic edits by these other IP addresses my edits are also controversial. Could you please elaborate on that? Feel free to leave me a note on my talk about specific edits, and I'll explain and, if necessary, revise my actions. 06:28, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
I, too, am concerned by this user's behavior. It cannot be putting much thought into its edits when it makes 96 of them in one minute.   — Jeff G. ツ 13:48, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
You appear to be objecting to Tm using cat-a-lot. That's hardly a fair complaint considering that most of us use the tool and consequently are guilty of the same crime of making these numbers of edits this quickly. Please put down the pitchfork until you have spent time checking your facts. -- (talk) 14:05, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
In fact earlier COM:AN topic and CfD topic referenced above both already have fair amount of examples where Tm miscategorizes images without checking, and it's easy to find more examples from given category. 14:13, 13 September 2017 (UTC)

Adding to initial comment: being told that I shouldn't be given a voice reflects significant level of arrogance, and that followed by "tough luck to you" sounds pretty much like bragging about getting away with bullying other users. Do we really have to bear that hostile work environment? 06:28, 14 September 2017 (UTC)

@Jdforrester (WMF): Hi, could you confirm that by responding to any of the IP addresses listed in this thread that logged-in contributors are at no risk of later action by the WMF? Thanks -- (talk) 12:39, 14 September 2017 (UTC)

I assume you know that editing wihtout being logged in is allowed. I don't see how it'd be possible to edit the same project without certain kind of users not interacting with one another. So you probably know the answer to your question, which seems to be plain picking and an attempt to distract. 13:42, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
@:, James Forrester reached out to me, because he was wondering if you were thinking of my role in Office Actions instead of his role in Product. Given our previous conversation on the topic of IP editors, I suspect he may be right. If you have another reason to ask James Forrester about conversing with IPs, please do clarify, and I'm sure he'll be happy to respond. My answer is unchanged from the last time we talked about this. In a nutshell, users who knowingly assist globally banned users to get around their global bans could be at risk whether that globally banned user is anonymous or not. Sanctions would only be issued on actions that were both knowing and, honestly, quite obvious (i.e generally after a fairly clear warning as well). We are still not able to give pre-clearance or an advanced "blessing", just as we can't pre-clear all conversations with named contributors. It is and will always be contextual. Jalexander-WMF (talk) 22:34, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
@Jalexander-WMF: unless an account or IP address has been either locally blocked, or globally (b)locked, there is no (definitive) way for any reasonable user to feel "secure" interacting with any user or IP address which even in the slightest way could be seen as only suspicious. Unless clear guidance whether or not responding to help requests on notice boards made by one of these IP addresses, or user accounts which have not been (b)locked, would be in the slightest considered to be "helping a banned user", most admins will not feel secure or want to actually engage with IP addresses, or new accounts which seem to have read more than one of our internal pages (polices/discussions etc.). This is causing great harm to the admin corp of this projects, wo don't know whether or not they are allowed to even discuss the topic raised by this IP address here, or by any IP address on any noticeboards, without being afraid of a global ban being issued the next day since something should have been obvious (to some). I don't expect any response or action or any clearer guidance than as been given, I just thought I should went my thoughts about your comments an the psychological harm to this project and those users who want to help and/or discuss on these noticeboards etc. --Jonatan Svensson Glad (talk) 00:07, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
@Jalexander-WMF: Yes my mistake, I'm suffering from J-blindness.
The reply does not answer my question about the IPs listed in this thread. I have to presume that you are not going to give a useful answer about these accounts/users who have attempted to interact with me.
It is impossible to predict what is in your head, and you have resisted writing down any useful policies or guidelines to restrict or define your powers to ban us contributors with no possibility of appeal, nor any right to ask for evidence. Consequently this appears to repeat your a non-specific threat to permanently block anyone that responds to anonymous IPs or sock accounts that turn out to be previously banned users. The fact that the threat is to block users that "knowingly" take action is entirely subject to interpretation, and as your previous threat against me was based on zero evidence, just your feelings that I was doing something somewhere, this is no reassurance whatsoever.
As I have done in this thread, the only way I can think of to reduce the risk of my accounts getting perma-banned for arbitrary or even entirely spurious reasons, is to ping you any time a newbie attempts to talk to me. At least in this way, you cannot justify your blocks based on me acting in a way that you were not very clearly and publicly informed about, and that I did not first attempt to ask your permission to help such users. I'll consider how to word a banner for the top of my talk page so that newbies are aware of how it may appear that I am being rude, but I'm actually just trying to protect myself from your damagingly heavy-handed approach to protecting us from harassment. As you appear to be refusing to give meaningful replies about any specific account, this effectively means that to stay safe, nobody should have discussions with new accounts or anon IPs that behave as if they have edited this project before; this obviously includes "" that I shall continue to ignore.
I look forward to the time when the WMF introduces proper governance and transparency for these WMF blocks, though considering how badly discussion about the blocks, and the absence of published procedures for deploying them has continued over a period of years, I doubt that governance will improve until those that currently hold these tools get promoted or move on to other pastures and more collegiate ways of working might be seriously considered.
Thanks -- (talk) 00:14, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
Perhaps time to create one of these templates:
--Jonatan Svensson Glad (talk) 01:27, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

I protest against using this thread for having a bone to pick with WMF officials (or authorities in general), and against spreading paranoid attitude according to which all newly registered users or unregistered users who have read policies (or why not established users too, since no evidence is needed for paranoia), are likely socks. This is against having healthy environment where to contribute and discuss. Fæ, you speak against making threats or accusations based on zero evidence, while this is exactly what you do yourself here in this topic by considering me a likely sock simply because I'm not logged in. Secondly, you imply that I "attempted to interact with [you]" while I didn't. I've no idea why you got involved in this thread in the first place if you are afraid of being banned and if you "ignore" me, as you say. 07:14, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

I took the liberty to move generic, undirectly related and rather extensive side-conversation about responding to IP addressses to talk page.

Now, the latest revelation is that Tm is monitoring my edits (in a kind of stalking way) and reverting them randomly. E.g. see following page histories, where I quite carefully explain what and why I'm doing, and which to the best of my understanding isn't controversial, nonetheless, as in above examples, it gets reverted without any explanation whatsoever: [1], [2], [3]. 13:22, 21 September 2017 (UTC)

Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment And this person, stills continues to try to delete text that is not of his convenience. I´ve readded the comments by other users that this person is trying to hide. Tm (talk) 20:50, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
I'm not hiding anything, as referenced in last comment: this side conversation, started with a clear intention to distract, was moved to talk page. It doesn't tell anything about my motives, it barely even mentions me. And my motives wasn't the topic here anyways.
You are carrying on with made up accusations. I repeat, I never admitted anything but not having had the same IP address since the beginning of times. Regardless that, I don't think that I've deceived you in anyway, and neither have you pointed out any actual circumstances to be suspicious about.
What you mean by "proper categorization" is in no way evident. Unlike you I explain what I'm doing, and I put effort into my contributions so that they'd make sense. 20:55, 21 September 2017 (UTC)

Could anyone please help resolving this? My experience with Wikimedia projects is that naturally users who don't contribute in a civilized manner are blocked, this includes e.g. users who don't ensure it'd make sense what they are doing and users who bluntly revert or override edits instead of participating in discussions if necessary. If blocking for some reason is seen as an excessive measure here, then I expect there should be some other way to resolve this. Part of the problem has been up at CfD over a month, though without any step towards resolution either. Other than that, page for another possible venue, COM:RFC, suggests that COM:ANU is for dispute resolution too. So, here we are. 07:51, 22 September 2017 (UTC)


Eddaido has started indiscriminately renaming Category:International Harvester vehicles into Category:International vehicles. Not a big problem, just a senseless renaming, lots of work serving no discernible purpose. But he has also misnamed a number of categories (calling the AL-series the "L-series Australia", same for the AR-series). As usual, he will not listen to other users but just keeps reverting, reorganizing thousands of files incorrectly. He even agrees on his talk page that they should be called AR and AL, but says the can be re-renamed later - which is insane. He has also undone the categorizing of hundreds of images into light and heavier duty trucks, something that cannot be restored by a bot. Eddaido refuses to discuss, and insists that he should be allowed to finish wrecking hundreds of categories before anything can be said. I say BRD and hold off on more edits. Help please!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mr.choppers (talk • contribs) 14:38, 13 September 2017 (UTC)

I have no knowledge of this, or the technical niceties of the naming. But Eddaido and this sort of relentless, IDHT behaviour is far from a novel occurrence. 8-( Andy Dingley (talk) 14:39, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
Eddaido is in the process of recategorising all International Harvester images. This is to remove the current "just growed" nature of International's commons categorisation using recognised names that avoid the many clashes Mr C apparently is still unaware of. Mr choppers is wholly mistaken to describe it as senseless. He is also attacking my work when only a small portion is done. Perhaps he could identify his problems here on this page in a less vague and scatter gun manner. When you collect all images of a like subject together a large number of things become clear and the split back to sub and sub-sub categories is quick and easy. Mr Choppers view just as he expresses it above is very superficial. I stand on my record — you want me to list it out? — and thanks Andy, what does IDHT mean? Eddaido (talk) 00:46, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
You need to cease! You're creating a mess by not correctly moving categories (ie: creating new categories and dumping a redirect template into the old category, rather than using the "Move" function) and leaving files sitting in a redirected category. Also don't misuse to rollback function, or you'll have it removed. Bidgee (talk) 01:23, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
I have ceased pending the outcome of this discussion. I did not misuse rollback function. Did I? I am careful to ensure no files are left but another editor has been changing things since then so check the history. What does the MOVE function do that I did not? Thanks, Eddaido (talk) 01:43, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
Yes you did, you used the rollback function a few times (such as here for example). Move function is a tab up the top which links to Special:MovePage but from now on I think you should be limited to COM:CfD Also you'll find @Andy Dingley: was saying that you have "I didn't hear that" when he used IDHT. Bidgee (talk) 01:55, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
What an unhappy group. At least Bidgee makes useful contributions to the images of International trucks. Perhaps I should have referred something to Categories for discussion. I didn’t because the reaction — such as it is now — is a delayed one and until that arrived from Mr Choppers I thought it would be a waste of time. No one had previously expressed interest. Maybe someone should take their concerns to Categories for discussion, the bit(s) that hurt them most that is, and we can go on from there. I used Rollback to fix vandalism. It is a very long time, maybe always, since I welcomed written contact with Mr choppers but I have not blocked or ignored him. Eddaido (talk) 03:28, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
Note "International Harvester"
Your comment was "leave me be to finish this enormous job." BRD. The fact that IHC vehicle categorization is not particularly interesting to 99.99% of the world's population and therefore wasn't immediately notice does not make your efforts correct. You are actively doing wrong, and you have also not told anyone what it is you are doing. Sure, some of the category names could use streamlining and systematizing. The fact that you stonewalled me completely (and kept steaming on) is why I brought it here. Here are my issues:
  • Renaming from "International Harvester" to "International" - pointless work, and you haven't provided any supporting evidence. See International Harvester Scout for naming practice accepted for over 11 years. Not saying "International" is incorrect, but such a change should be discussed and could be carried out without the ancillary disruption.
I think you missed this: "I have discussed this with Eddaido, then posted "Trucks built by International Harvester (and Navistar) are branded "International". This is true from the 1908 "International Gasoline Auto Buggies" [4] until the present[5]. I think Eddaido uses this as a reason for name changing, and I support him on this". Unfortunatly, after discussing it with him I encouraged him to just go ahead. I didn't think anyone would care, clearly I screwed up. He shouldn't take heat for that. Sammy D III (talk) 16:29, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
@Sammy D III: I don't have a real problem with changing International Harvester to International, it's more concise. It's the additional problems, duplications and misnamings and inability to communicate that bother me. As for renaming, that can be done without disruptions. mr.choppers (talk)-en- 17:37, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for the answer, sorry for my part. Thank you. Sammy D III (talk) 19:42, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
AR-130 series
  • Renaming from L series to L line (and so on) - correctboth are used, see the chrome nameplate on an AR-130, but of minor importance.
  • Merging International Harvester R-Series pickups and International Harvester R-Series into the single International R Line trucks. This undoes the work of separating light duty from heavier duty versions and cannot be easily repaired by a bot. If the issue was simply "series" versus "line", then why not simply do that? Same problem with the L line. I pointed this out repeatedly but received no response whatsoever.
  • Personally I disagree with capitalizing "Line" since it isn't actually part of a name, the name is L-110 or L-130 or whatever. I'd prefer L line. (just my 2 cents)
  • Misnaming Category:International Harvester AR-series to International R Line trucks Australia, same thing for AL-line. When this was pointed out he said "that can be changed later." Why go through a lot of effort to rename a whole bunch of pictures just to rename them again later? He then re-reverted me after he had been made aware of the issue and acknowledged that the name was incorrect.
This could easily have been avoided if Eddaido would just read what people tell him, but his reaction is to turn rigid and defensive while attempting to flatter the "opponent" and make them go away. mr.choppers (talk)-en- 15:35, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
A lot more "misunderstandings" and the same complaints. Can we wait until the main name question is solved and then debate Mr C's probs with L line etc? Mr.choppers, did I flatter you? I certainly didn't mean to. Eddaido (talk) 03:42, 16 September 2017 (UTC)

* Reader please note. All, that is to say All, I have done is re-categorise with the names used by International Harvester Corp / Co in their own literature. As for L line please see here (there has long been this same link at the top of the new category) that's all I have done, i.e. copy from an authoritative source, the manufacturer concerned. Eddaido (talk) 09:21, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

Please, be honest, Eddaido: what you did really was recategorizing unilaterally the IH main categories, renaming illogically some of them (see the Australian IH truck lines), ignoring without reason some subcategories during your renamings/recategorization (the pickup subcategories almost disappeared during the process) and creating duplicate categories (for example the International Automobiles you created without relation to the already existing IH Automobiles). And then, when people tried to ask you not to act that way, you asked for a merge to cover that mess. A correct behavior would certainly have been to ask before, even if your opinion was that "nobody except me take care of these categories". BarnCas (talk) 21:04, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
OK I will respond to that. "Please be honest"??? Yes I did recategorise unilaterally. Never denied.
About one-fifth of the way through "an old acquaintance" attacked me. You should not judge by his claims or his insinuations or the incompleteness of the recategorisation.
Just one long-established determined antagonist is not "people". There is no "chaotic mess" unless brought on by the reverts. It sure is incomplete. You (BarnCas) display more mistaken impressions.
Reader please note. I repeat. All, that is to say All, I have done is (begin to completely) re-categorise with the names used by International Harvester Corp / Co in their own literature. Eddaido (talk) 02:44, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
We can see that you senselessly merged categories that existed, misnamed several (AL, AR) and then kept reverting after you had already admitted you were in the wrong. If all you had done was to rename from IH to International then I wouldn't have cared a bit. Several problematic edits are linked above and are clear for anyone to see. Can't you just say "I'm sorry" like a normal human being? If you cannot admit wrong and rectify your behavior then you simply do not belong in a cooperative project. mr.choppers (talk)-en- 13:59, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
This continuous repetition is very difficult to deal with. Eddaido (talk) 00:00, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
@Eddaido: International used to be International Harvester, and had a long, proud history as such. Many of its old products with International Harvester logos, names, lines, models, etc. still exist, although some don't function as designed any more. Photos of those old International Harvester products' logos, names, lines, models, etc. should be categorized by their original manufacturer's names for them at the times of original manufacture and original marketing. Cross-referencing old with new and vice-versa can be done in the bodies of categories and galleries. Disclosure: I have never used or seen one of their products up close, but my first Usenet connection was via their server ihnp4, and I am sure some of the food I have eaten was farmed with their products.   — Jeff G. ツ 14:23, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
@Jeff G.: International Harvester Co / Corp was formed at the beginning of the 20th century by merger of several businesses making agricultural machinery, shortly afterwards they began to manufacture trucks. Today the difference is that it is named Navistar. The dispute is over the name used for the truck products, not the name of the manufacturer. Eddaido (talk) 00:00, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
@Eddaido, Mr.choppers, Sammy D III, Bidgee, Andy Dingley: I have made a new proposal at Commons:Categories for discussion/2017/09/Category:International Harvester trucks#New merge target, I hope you like it.   — Jeff G. ツ 13:08, 21 September 2017 (UTC)


Hello. I've just blocked Krosklo on for a month for repeated copyright violations (using non-free images in multiple articles after several warnings). I noticed they have uploaded a lot of images to commons, claiming they are their own work. Images like this or this seem to be simply copied off websites, and I would be surprised if this party logo is really their own work. I'm not really familiar with commons procedures, but I wonder whether a mass deletion and some kind of block on them uploading images may be in order? Cheers, Number 57 (talk) 09:01, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing this out. I'll review their contributions and tag them appropriately. Guanaco (talk) 09:38, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
✓ Done. All images tagged either no source, copyvio, or DR. I've given the user a final warning. Guanaco (talk) 09:57, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

Uploads by Ptlb0142[edit]

Most of Ptlb0142's uploads contain as their main or only description, the link This link is completely unrelated to any of the uploaded images. In addition, many of the uploaded images are of very low quality. Is this a strange way of trying to spam Wikimedia Commons? - Takeaway (talk) 13:57, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

The user persists in uploading files with the spamlink in the file description despite having been warned by Jeff G. ツ. - Takeaway (talk) 09:57, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
✓ Done Blocked for two weeks. --jdx Re: 12:47, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
@Jdx, Jameslwoodward: You might want to extend, this may be indefblocked Tekksavvy socking.   — Jeff G. ツ 13:18, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
That may be, but Tekksavvy's last edit was in 2016, so a CU is not possible. .     Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 13:41, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
@Jameslwoodward: I was pinging you as the blocking Admin. Anyway, I expect we shall hear from that user in the first week of October.   — Jeff G. ツ 13:55, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
Yes, I understand, but since we can't do a CU we'll simply have to wait and see and apply the duck test as needed. .     Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 18:59, 20 September 2017 (UTC)

Block User:WiFi and HiFi and User:Hey now.[edit]

These accounts were created by my brother, User:IExistToHelp to vandalize Wikimedia Commons. --Talk to Kong of Lasers 00:25, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

@Kong of Lasers: Snitch. --IExistToHelp (talk) 00:26, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
This is all fake. --IExistToHelp (talk) 00:31, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
Pictogram voting delete.svg I withdraw my nomination It is all a misunderstanding. --Talk to Kong of Lasers 04:51, 20 September 2017 (UTC)

Uploading copyright violations files continuously[edit]

Hello.Please act with User:محمد الدمشقي 2017.Thank you ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2 (talk) 17:21, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

✓ Done --Ruthven (msg) 18:12, 19 September 2017 (UTC)


vandalism Artix Kreiger (talk) 19:13, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

✓ Done Blocked for a week. --jdx Re: 19:23, 19 September 2017 (UTC)


Just a quick attention needed, the Jcb as OTRS and as a sysop here, shouldn't have a posture as this:

  • "So if you want to keep these apparent copyright violations so easy over assumptions, I think it's a good thing that you are currently not an OTRS agent." (SIC)
  • "In the past years I have seen just too many bogus claims from museums"
  • "Did you even read what I wrote above? Apparently not. What we are missing is not a claim from the museum. We need to see a statement from the (heirs of the) artist." (SIC)

From: Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:José Wasth Rodrigues and Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Henrique Manzo

He also used the administrative tool to force his idea, without any discussion [6], [7]...

Undoubtedly not a posture to maintain a heath environment. -- Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton m 15:47, 20 September 2017 (UTC)

Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment Without looking deeply into the facts of this particular case, I think museums falsely claiming copyright is a serious and common problem. Dealing with it can be extremely frustrating. Maybe a friendlier tone would have been better, but I don't feel that any of the statements here were particularly offensive. The move protection is not a problem in my view, because DRs generally should not be moved in the first place. Doing so can potentially trip up bots and scripts and make a mess. Overall, there isn't much to say or do here, except remind everyone to stay mellow. Guanaco (talk) 16:36, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
  • Guanaco, in this case, it’s the other way around: The Museum has licensed its exhibits allowing photos of them to be in Commons and Jcb thinks that’s not enough. That meatter is being discussed elsewhere, here we’re focusing on Jcb’s behaviour. Concerning this point, Jcb should be asked why does he think that this museum in partucular should not have the same expectation of trust other museums obviously enjoy in Commons. -- Tuválkin 20:18, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
  • At OTRS I have spoken to many museums and archives over the years and I have never taken their statements for granted so easily as some other users do. The result of asking questions was almost always that on a closer look the museum or archive did not own the copyright after all. That's why I am cynical on such statements. They almost always prove incorrect. Jcb (talk) 20:43, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment @Rodrigo.Argenton: I contacted you at your user talk page about the merge action on the DRs, but you chose to revert that message instead of trying to talk first. Jcb (talk) 17:00, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
"I contacted you at your user talk page" after I protect the page against you...
So.. how should talk first? And this level of conversation:
"So after tampering with the DRs now you start forum shopping?"
-- Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton m 14:21, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
I just came accross the sarcastic fact that you have been blocked before for trolling at this Noticeboard. Jcb (talk) 15:00, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
hey it's all good, bite yet another institution, so they will never come back. it is quite a display of making policy by DR, and why talk to an uploader, when you can mass delete. you realize you are a laughing stock? Slowking4 § Sander.v.Ginkel's revenge 18:27, 21 September 2017 (UTC)


false editing, bulling, edit war, edit without reference in File:United Arab Emirates adm location map.svg.Shahin.shn (talk) 22:51, 20 September 2017 (UTC)

@Shahin.shn: Reporting an admin at Administrators' noticeboard. People these days. --Talk to Kong of Lasers 00:49, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
If you need to report an admin, this is actually the right place. Guanaco (talk) 01:24, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
Shahin.shn, this appears to be a disputed territory. From UAE's point of view the islands are part of UAE, but Iran disagrees. It's not our place on Commons to decide which of the two images is correct. The Commons policy on this is COM:UPLOADWAR: you should simply upload a different file and leave NordNordWest's version alone if there's disagreement. Once we have both versions as separate files, you can switch the map on Wikipedia. From there it is a Wikipedia content issue; you'll have to follow their policies and guidelines and find consensus there if you have a disagreement. Guanaco (talk) 01:24, 21 September 2017 (UTC)


i'm just saying by international recognition by every organization in world these islands ownd by Iran so till new recognition even by UN my map is correct Shahin.shn (talk) 07:18, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
@Shahin.shn, without any comment or discussion you did overwrite an existing and heavily used image/map, which had been uploaded 2 years ago. This is a clear violation of our policy, see Commons:Overwriting existing files. After NNW reverted your edit, you repeated it. Only with your 3rd overwriting-attempt, you left a comment on NNW's talkpage to justify your edit. Though NNW immediately provided a counterargument to your claim, you did overwrite the map anyway for a 3rd and 4th time. So, your editing is a repeated violation of Commons:Overwriting existing files. It's you who might have been "reported" here, but not NNW. Instead, you should follow User:Guanaco's advise. --Túrelio (talk) 07:42, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
There might be only one thing I can add: The file description says The boundaries on these maps always show the de facto situation and do not imply any endorsement or acceptance. I have no opinion on these islands, this map only shows the UAE claims for an encyclopedic purpose regardless if they are legitimate or not. NNW 08:44, 21 September 2017 (UTC)