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Shift junctions[edit]

@Useddenim, Tuvalkin: How would we name BSicon .svgBSicon STR+1.svgBSicon KRW+r.svg (KRW+rSTR+1) or BSicon .svgBSicon STR+l.svgBSicon BS2+r.svg (BS2+rSTRrg) ? These could be needed for elevated junctions. Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
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  • BSicon .svgBSicon STR+l.svgBSicon BS2+r.svg (ABZf+4hl)  (cf.   (ABZf+4l).
  • BSicon .svgBSicon STR+1.svgBSicon KRW+r.svg (KRW+r1)  is the best I can come up with for this; normally numbers come before letters, but it’s difficult to differentiate between lr (Lr) and 1r (one-r). Useddenim (talk) 17:51, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
    • @Useddenim: Would it be possible to name BSicon .svgBSicon STRl.svgBSicon KRWr.svg (KRWrSTRlf) or BSicon .svgBSicon vSTR+l-.svgBSicon vSHI3+r-.svg (vSHI3+r-vSTR+l-) ? I've thought about using the A prefix, but it would probably be best to either stick them together with a plus sign or use another character between the suffixes (e.g. AKRWr;l or something). Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
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  • I would say that + is always possible, even if often there are better names. Therefore:
    • BSicon .svgBSicon STR+1.svgBSicon KRW+r.svg (KRW+r+STR+1)
    • BSicon .svgBSicon STR+l.svgBSicon BS2+r.svg (BS2+r+STRrg)
-- Tuválkin 15:49, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

@Useddenim, Tuvalkin: See also   (STRr+SHI1l),   (exv-STRr+SHI1+l),   (v-ABZ+la). Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
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  • The first two above use +, as I suggested above. As for   (v-ABZ+la) — what’s wrong with it? -- Tuválkin 15:49, 18 April 2017 (UTC)
    • @Tuvalkin: For the latter icon, it wasn't particularly clear to me what the name actually means; it might make more sense as v-ABZa+l. I'm not really very familiar with the pre-SHI variety of shift junctions, and names like   (vABZr+r-ÜSTle),   (vSTRa-STRl) and   (uvSTRelf) just seem rather odd (relative to the usual icons). Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
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@Tuvalkin, Useddenim: if   (vSTRag+l) would be correctly named SPLag+l (based on vSTRa → SPLa), then would   (v-ABZ+la) be SHI1lg+l (and thus BSicon .svgBSicon STR+1.svgBSicon KRW+r.svg  SHI4+rg+1, BSicon .svgBSicon uvSTRelf.svg  uvSTRlgf, BSicon .svgBSicon ABZ2+4gf.svg  ABZ2+4gf+g)? Jc86035 (talk) 10:06, 24 September 2017 (UTC)

6-column shifts[edit]

Moved from Category talk:Icons for railway descriptions#new icons

jABZg2 jSTR2c djSTRc3 STR
a shift by 750px
STR djSTRc1 jSTR+4c jABZg+4
in both direktions
jSTR2 djSTRc3 BSicon .svg BSicon .svg
"j" instead of "k" ...
BSicon .svg djSTRc1 jSTR+4 BSicon .svg
quite smooth, isn't it? a×pdeHello! 17:26, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
Good idea, poor execution. However, they should be named:
current new
similar
to
  (jSTR+1) SHI6+l   (SHI3+l)
  (jSTR2) SHI6l   (SHI3l)
  (jSTR3) SHI6r   (SHI3r)
  (jSTR+4) SHI6+r   (SHI3+r)
  (jSTR+1c) SHI6+l+c4   (STR+c4)
  (jSTR2c) SHI6l+c3   (STR+c3)
  (jSTR3c) SHI6r+c2   (STR+c2)
  (jSTR+4c) SHI6+r+c1   (STR+c1)
current new
similar
to
  (djSTRc1) dSHI6c1   (dSHI4c1)
  (djSTRc2) dSHI6c2   (dSHI4c2)
  (djSTRc3) dSHI6c3   (dSHI4c3)
  (djSTRc4) dSHI6c4   (dSHI4c4)
  (jABZg+1) SHI6g+l   (SHI2g+l)
  (jABZg2) SHI6gl   (SHI2gl)
  (jABZg3) SHI6gr   (SHI2gr)
  (jABZg+4) SHI6g+r   (SHI2g+r)
And where did the j prefix come from? Useddenim (talk) 20:32, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
In any event, you can't use them at de:WP because they aren't approved in der Bilderkatalog! Useddenim (talk) 20:40, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
I don't think these should use the SHI root, since the shift is over two rows. However, c should definitely be before the corner numbers and the j prefix before the d prefix. Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
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@Useddenim: If you remember this discussion, you could do this in a more standard way with   (jSTR2) +   (djSTRc3)c + jjvSTR2- + jcSTRc3q (with double j, or other letter prefix, indicating a curve of 71.6°). Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
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Some elevated icons[edit]

Hi guys,
I need some additional elevated icons for an article, specificly exhÜSTl, exhÜSTr und uexhWECHSEL. Thanks in advance, MGChecker (talk) 05:45, 8 September 2017 (UTC)

  • @MGChecker: here’s   (uexhWECHSEL). -- Tuválkin 13:55, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
    • @Tuvalkin: I'm working on the elevated ÜST shape (does it need a mask?). Is your WECHSEL stroke-width correct?   (WECHSEL) has 40px but   (uexhWECHSEL) has 50px (and no dasharray?).   (GRZq) has a different stroke-dasharray as well but this is probably deliberate. Jc86035 (talk) 14:49, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
      • @Jc86035: I confess I just added the railings to   (uexWECHSEL); feel free to homogenize. As for ÜSTs, go ahead, I’m not working on them. -- Tuválkin 12:05, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
  • @MGChecker: I've uploaded   (exhÜSTl) and   (exhÜSTr). Jc86035 (talk) 09:42, 10 September 2017 (UTC)

lINTs[edit]

@Useddenim: What does the "f" in   (lINTf4) mean? Jc86035 (talk) 10:23, 8 September 2017 (UTC)

moved forwards toward, as in   (lCONT4f). (I think there are other examples, but I can't locate them right now.) Useddenim (talk) 00:32, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
@Useddenim: then   (lCONT4f) etc. should be renamed lCONTf4 (or lCONT4+2), since they're not derived from   (CONT4) etc.. Jc86035 (talk) 03:37, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
Don’t over-think it. Useddenim (talk) 04:08, 9 September 2017 (UTC) Correct. Useddenim (talk) 12:08, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
@Useddenim: ✓ Done. See also   (ENDE4f) (named correctly). Jc86035 (talk) 13:59, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
Aha! I knew there were others. The confusion arises because f/fq = ↓/→ for most icons, but the direction of the arrow takes precedence for CONT icons. (Except for ones coming from corners, where it was decided that the + could be omitted, merely implied.) Useddenim (talk) 21:39, 10 September 2017 (UTC)

lvINT-R-[edit]

Would create icon   (lvINT-R-) in en:Template:Koya_Line. Rowan03 (talk) 12:37, 17 September 2017 (UTC)

✓ Done. Useddenim (talk) 18:59, 17 September 2017 (UTC)

uexhSTR+hc3 and uexhSTR2+4a[edit]

Would create icons   (uexhSTR+hc3) and   (uexhSTR2+4a) in en:Template:Green_Line_Extension. Rowan03 (talk) 20:21, 17 September 2017 (UTC)

@Rowan03: ✓ Done Jc86035 (talk) 16:21, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

kvMSTRc2, uhtvSTRagq, kvMSTR-c4, uhtvSTRef, uhvSTRc3, uhvSTR+4, uhvSTR2, uhvSTRc1, utvSTR+4a[edit]

Would create icons   (kvMSTRc2),   (uhtvSTRagq),   (kvMSTR-c4),   (uhtvSTRef),   (uhvSTRc3),   (uhvSTR+4),   (uhvSTR2),   (uhvSTRc1),   (utvSTR+4a) similar to   (utvSTR+1a) but to corner 4 instead of corner 1 and   (utvSTRagq) respectively in pt:Predefinição:MLmapa/CG. Rowan03 (talk) 22:07, 20 September 2017 (UTC)

@Useddenim: Is it fine if the +G/+F suffixes are used for the parallel lines? There is no other way they could be named without being ambiguous (the icons need formations on three sides to keep the geometry, and with a changed geometry to fit, the inner formation curve would probably be two straight lines). Jc86035 (talk) 15:49, 21 September 2017 (UTC)

uexkkSTRr+1[edit]

Would create icon   (uexkkSTRr+1) in en:Template:Gd-Ol-Tw-Map. Rowan03 (talk) 22:32, 20 September 2017 (UTC)

 Not done. This is an invalid icon name. Useddenim (talk) 00:11, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
@Useddenim: no, it's valid (uex version of   (kkSTR2) rotated 90° anticlockwise). I would have uploaded a complete set but I haven't had time to work out a geometry which uses two perfect circular arcs for the kkSTR (formerly kAB) icons. Jc86035 (talk) 15:36, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
@Xeror: ✓ Done, as well as others in the set. Jc86035 (talk) 04:19, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

hABZ23[edit]

Would create icon   (hABZ23) in en:Template:Keddie_Wye. Rowan03 (talk) 22:53, 20 September 2017 (UTC)

MKBHFa[edit]

Would create icon   (MKBHFa) in conjunction with   (exhKBHFa) in en:Template:Railways_on_the_Isle_of_Wight. Rowan03 (talk) 13:19, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

@Rowan03: I've made   (MKBHFa) as well as   (lhMKBHFa) (+ rotations, HST variations). Jc86035 (talk) 06:20, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

MSHI2r and MSHI2c2[edit]

Would create icons   (MSHI2r) and   (MSHI2c2) in conjunction with   (hSHI2r) and   (hSHI2c2) in en:Template:Sincan–Kayaş_commuter_line. Rowan03 (talk) 13:32, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

@Rowan03:   (lhv-MSHI2r) already exists, so I have used that instead in the diagram. Jc86035 (talk) 13:44, 23 September 2017 (UTC)
  (MSHI2r)  (exhSHI2r)  (lhv-MSHI2r) Its only difference is 125px away. Rowan03 (talk) 14:01, 23 September 2017 (UTC)
@Rowan03: They share the same curve geometry, so there is no visual difference.   (SHI1l) +   (c) =   (c) +   (SHI1+r). Make the new ones yourself if you really want but I'm already busy right now. Jc86035 (talk) 14:08, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

tSTR3+1eg[edit]

Would create icon   (tSTR3+1eg) similar to   (tSTR+1eg) in en:Template:Sincan–Kayaş_commuter_line. Rowan03 (talk) 14:25, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

@Rowan03: ✓ Done Jc86035 (talk) 15:04, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

tv-STR+1eg[edit]

Would create icon   (tv-STR+1eg) similar to   (tSTR+1eg) in en:Template:Severn_Tunnel_junction_RDT. Rowan03 (talk) 15:32, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

  • @Rowan03: Like this:   (tv-STR+1eg)? -- Tuválkin 01:01, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
    • @Tuvalkin: No, that's   (tvSTR+1-Le). In the linked diagram it would be better to use tSTR3+lef, which I'm working on. Jc86035 (talk) 06:33, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
    • @Rowan03: I have updated the diagram to use   (tSTR3+lef). The reason I didn't use tv-STR+1eg instead is that the portal would have had to be moved downwards to fit inside the border. If you think   (tv-STR+1e) looks better you can change the diagram to use that icon instead. Jc86035 (talk) 15:40, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

uhtHST+1eg[edit]

Would create icon   (uhtHST+1eg) similar to   (utSTR+1eg),   (uhtSTR+1e), and   (uHST+1) in en:Template:IRT_New_Lots_Line. Rowan03 (talk) 15:56, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

kKRZ3+lu[edit]

Would create icon   (kKRZ3+lu) similar to   (ekKRZ3+lu) in en:Template:Cross_River_Rail. Rowan03 (talk) 22:13, 29 September 2017 (UTC)

@Rowan03: ✓ Done, as well as others in the group (256 including mixed icons). Jc86035 (talk) 10:17, 30 September 2017 (UTC)

exKRZxl+r[edit]

I’m looking for an icon I’d expect to be named   (exKRZxl+r), i.e.   (KRZl+r) with all but the lower-left curve disused. Am I missing something or is it indeed missing? (Icon should replace the   (exKRZ+r) at w:de:Bahnstrecke Weinheim–Worms) --Nenntmichruhigip (talk) 12:48, 9 October 207 (UTC)

@Nenntmichruhigip: I've uploaded it. Useddenim, did I get the geometry right? Jc86035 (talk) 13:48, 9 October 2017 (UTC)
exKRZxl+r with & without extra triangle beside crossing
@Jc86035: I've uploaded a new version that has equal-sized white triangles on each side of the crossing. Useddenim (talk) 01:13, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
@Useddenim: As previously, I don't think the line width should change abruptly halfway through (especially here, since the difference is larger than in other crossings). Has there been any actual consensus for crossing+junction geometry? I assumed the geometry would be separately considered for open and closed parts e.g.   (xKRZl), except for icons like   (KRZxlr+rxl)? Jc86035 (talk) 02:03, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
@Jc86035, Axpde: The original version is geometrically correct, but at 20px crowded icons—such as this one—benefit from hinting, the same as fonts. Useddenim (talk) 18:12, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
We have exact rules for each track style. I see no sense at all to massacre the BSicons just to see "white triangles"! a×pdeHello! 20:10, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
Ah yes, the perennial German "We must follow the rules" regardless. Well, I say break the rules because “rules are mostly made to be broken”. Useddenim (talk) 00:21, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

ukABZl+34[edit]

Would create icon   (ukABZl+34) to similar to   (kABZl+34) in en:Hambuk Line. Rowan03 (talk) 17:27, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

v-BRIDGEc1e and vBRIDGEc3a-[edit]

Would create icon   (v-BRIDGEc1e) and   (vBRIDGEc3a-) similar to   (dBRIDGEc1e) and   (dBRIDGEc3a) respectively in en:South Eastern main line diagram. Rowan03 (talk) 17:34, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

kRP4c3, kRP4s+4, kRP42+w, kRP4-c1[edit]

Would create icons   (kRP4c3),   (kRP4s+4),   (kRP42+w) and   (kRP4-c1), similar to   (RP4c3),   (RP4s+4),   (RP42+w) and   (RP4c1) respectively in en:Template:Cross_River_Rail. Rowan03 (talk) 00:15, 21 October 2017 (UTC)

bend junction with crossing on the end[edit]

I need   (exABZ2l) with the red tip of   (xSTR2). --Nenntmichruhigip (talk) 11:11, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

BSicon .svgBSicon exABZ2l.svgBSicon STRc2.svg (STRc2exABZ2l) . Useddenim (talk) 01:18, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
Exatcly. There’s no such overlap template on dewiki though, so I need an actual icon :-) --Nenntmichruhigip (talk) 20:07, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
I am sorry, but I can't – it will not be approved by der Bildercatalog. You will have to fix de:BS-map instead of creating an icon that will be used only once. Useddenim (talk) 03:36, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
@Nenntmichruhigip: The {{Routemap}} documentation and the six legend templates have been mostly translated into German on dewikivoyage, for what it's worth. Would it be so difficult to ask an admin to import a few templates and two modules (Routemap and Color contrast)? Jc86035 (talk) 07:33, 4 November 2017 (UTC)
Iirc it’s not wanted on dewiki, so yes, it would be difficult to ask for such an import. Maybe I’ll just name it   (STRc2 ※ exABZ2l) or something. --Nenntmichruhigip (talk) 14:12, 6 November 2017 (UTC)
The name should be   (exABZ2l+STRc2), in that case. -- Tuválkin 23:28, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

LL icons[edit]

I'd like to have exv-LLSTR3, exvLLSTR3- and LL versions of exLSTR2+1, exLSTR3+4, exLSTR23, and exLSTR14. —Preceding unsigned comment was added by 87.78.85.181 (talk) 15:17, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

uSKRZ-G4h2+4, SKRZ-G4h2+4, and an icon for unknown name.[edit]

would create icons for like this?

  •   (uSKRZ-G4h2+4)
  •   (SKRZ-G4h2+4)
  • I don't know which name for this icon, but it mixed for   (RP4uhRP4) above the   (STR2+4) (STR2+4 under the bridge).

respectively in w:zh-yue:獵德大橋南站. --PQ77wd (talk) 08:43, 2 December 2017 (UTC)

✓ Done, as requested. BSicon .svgBSicon RP4uhRP4.svgBSicon SKRZ-G4hq2+4.svg (RP4uhRP4 !~ SKRZ-G4hq2+4)  Useddenim (talk) 17:54, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
@Useddenim, PQ77wd: The Cantonese Wikipedia doesn't have {{Routemap}} yet; should I ask for it to be imported? Jc86035 (talk) 03:30, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
{{Routemap}} just not existed in Cantonese Wikipedia. However, I co-opte the Japanese Wikipedia for using template like {{Railway line header}}, {{UKrail-header}} and an army of {{BS}}* series. {{Routemap}} this template can be created for a new one.--PQ77wd (talk) 04:08, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
@PQ77wd: "this template can be created for a new one" 的意思是什麼? Jc86035 (talk) 04:21, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
@Jc86035: 即係話可以新開個噉解囉。--PQ77wd (talk) 04:24, 3 December 2017 (UTC)