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Please test any changes in the template's /sandbox or /testcases subpages, or in a user subpage, and consider discussing changes at the talk page before implementing them.

Statistics (Please do not archive)[edit]

Date Number of Creator templates Number of Files using Creator template
3049
‎125k
‎185k
6430 281k
7488 321k
8698 379k
10,285 452k
15,441 872k
24,783 1457k

Only says "birth" even if also death-info[edit]

The following:

{{Creator
 | Name              = Fortuné Méaulle
 | Birthdate         = 1844-04-11
 | Birthloc          = Angers
 | Deathyear         = 1901
 | Deathloc          = 
}}

displays as:

Fortuné Méaulle (1844–1901) Link back to Creator infobox template

Authority control values[edit]

As can be seen at Category:Mary Delany, this template displays fewer authority control parameters than {{Authority control}}. Is there a reason for that? Can we sync them? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:53, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

My question is: do we need additional values in the Creator template? From my understanding there are more potential authority identifiers than are displayed in even {{authority control}}. Animalparty (talk) 20:50, 22 December 2017 (UTC)
Why do we need fewer than in the AC template? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:18, 22 December 2017 (UTC)
Symbol support vote.svg Support syncing. And more would also be fine. Often even the very useful RKDartists ID is trimmed. --Marsupium (talk) 18:44, 1 January 2018 (UTC)

Parameter status in documentation not correct[edit]

Many parameters are said to have "deprecated" status, "Wikidata" parameter is said to be "required" in the template documentation. For the commons user type the "Wikidata" parameter isn't required, but even discouraged and thus other parameters aren't deprecated. I think we should be explicit about that. No? --Marsupium (talk) 18:44, 1 January 2018 (UTC)

I do not know what to do with "commons user type" (templates with Type=commons user). they are mostly outside of the scope of the template, but as with any template: deletion would require a lot of cleanup and I do not feel like dealing with them. At the moment templates with Type=commons user do not show up in most maintenance categories. The documentation page lists 2 syntax modes one with wikidata link and one without it. Most templates with Type=commons user should use the second syntax. --Jarekt (talk) 14:35, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

Copy/paste name from template?[edit]

Is it possible to allow the copy/pasting of the creator's name straight from the template? That would help with attribution. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 04:43, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

I am not sure what you mean. Can you elaborate? --Jarekt (talk) 14:54, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
I have to click through to Wikidata in order to copy and paste a creator's name for attribution (off-wiki). Clicking the person's name in an attempt to highlight it for copying just results in the template opening or closing. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 15:56, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
I see, I have the same problem and I do not know the solution. You can click on the "pen" icon and go to the creator page and copy it from there. it is also possible to place cursor outside of the template and select just the name inside, but that is quite hard. --Jarekt (talk) 15:57, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

Major rewrite[edit]

Hi, I just did major rewrite of Module:Creator. Please report any issues here. --Jarekt (talk) 04:24, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

See Creator:Yaakov Saar seems to be some problem. Also I triedto add he wiki style but unsuccessful. can you fix it as well. -- Geagea (talk) 08:49, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
I fixed the problem in Creator:Yaakov Saar. The problem occurred when the nationality is missing in wikidate. So it should be fixed in Module:NationAndOccupation. -- Geagea (talk) 09:04, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
@Jarekt: Is that the cause of the error at Creator:Urbain J. Kinet? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:45, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
Yes, country of citizenship (P27) is missing in Wikidata.-- Geagea (talk) 14:26, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
I Pictogram voting keep.svg Fixed the Module:NationAndOccupation code, so Creator:Urbain J. Kinet and other similar cases work now. Thanks for reporting. --Jarekt (talk) 17:09, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

Option parameter problem[edit]

It looks like the {{{Option}}} parameter has a problem, simply does not do anything, visible e.g. here:

Don't know if it has anything to do with the major rewrite … --Marsupium (talk) 10:55, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

I am looking at this, now. --Jarekt (talk) 17:11, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
Pictogram voting keep.svg Fixed now. The issue was with a page that did not change since April. Was it broken since then? --Jarekt (talk) 00:30, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
Thanks. I have not been very active in Wikis recently, but I also noticed the issue yesterday. I would find it surprising that two of us saw the same day a problem that has been around for 6 months. --Zolo (talk) 12:43, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

Linkback[edit]

@Jarekt: I just created

Willi Maillard  (1879–1945) Blue pencil.svg wikidata:Q23000654
Description painter
Date of birth/death 26 February 1879 15 July 1945
Location of birth Berlin
Authority control

based only on Wikidata. The linkback points to Willi Maillard instead of Creator:Willi Maillard. I assume you're using Commons Creator page (P1472) and didn't add the creator prefix. Can you have a look? Multichill (talk) 12:15, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

Will do. --Jarekt (talk) 15:57, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
Pictogram voting keep.svg Fixed --Jarekt (talk) 14:36, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

individual creator page documentation[edit]

I updated Template:Creator/documentation. Is it clear? --Jarekt (talk) 18:49, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

Looks fine to me. BTW: Do we (still) need the "Localization" section there? --Marsupium (talk) 11:18, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
Thanks I removed localization section. --Jarekt (talk) 14:35, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

Need help translating text of the issue boxes[edit]

In the current version of the template files in Category:Creator templates with Wikidata link: item missing linkback and Category:Creator templates without home category categories will have issue box displaying message about the issue and how to fix it. The text and translations can be found at Module:I18n/creator. Is the English message clear and if so can I ask for translations? --Jarekt (talk) 14:35, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

I've changed the English text slightly and added a German translation.
BTW (also using this page as a de facto kind of WikiProject talk page): I've started with replacing the labels of Template:Kinship with Wikidata labels in Module:Kinship. I've set up a comparison table at Module talk:Kinship/label comparison. Perhaps you can check for the labels in your languages if Wikidata and Commons should be aligned, or if they should stay different and if so why that, and leave a note on that page! Thank you in advance! --Marsupium (talk) 11:34, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

Number of Authority Control identifiers[edit]

Based on this discussion (and other similar ones I had) I changed the code so Creator template will show all Authority Control identifiers in all namespaces except for "File" namespace. In File namespace only 6-7 most relevant identifiers (prioritizing some based on user's language) will be shown as before in order to keep the pages less cluttered and readable. --Jarekt (talk) 17:39, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

Creator:Jan Asselijn[edit]

This is a good example of houw wikidata drives me mad sometimes. Someone on wikidata took his deathdate from KultNav and translated this as "1 October 1652". However, the only information we have is that he was burried on 3 October 1652. How do I add this information on wikidata? The best I could to is to delete death date on wikidata altogether. No information is better than false information. Regards, Vincent Steenberg (talk) 10:36, 19 February 2018 (UTC)