Template talk:PD-Germany-§134-KUG

{{Helpme}} I'm sorry, I'm not figuring out how to edit this template. The dead external link ("§ 5 KUG") target should be replaced by [1], parallel to Template:PD-Germany-§134. The two templates should also indicate that they are different. The paragraph three template is reasonably described, but paragraph five (cited in this template) says that illustrations in a text retain their separate creators. In practise this template seems to be used for stamps, which confuses me. HLHJ (talk) 15:41, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

I have repaired the link in Template:PD-Germany-§134-KUG/en. Note that KUG and LUG are two laws, not the same. -- Robert Weemeyer (talk) 22:23, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Thank you, Robert Weemeyer, that was helpful. The link really clarifies how the template is to be used. HLHJ (talk) 22:55, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

legal entity

What is published by a "legal entity" mean. For images, is this phrase meant to distinguish "appearing in a magazine, newspaper, or book" from the alternate definition of publishing where a discernable copy of an image has changed hands to a member of the public? --RAN (talk) 18:50, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

Nothing of the sort. It's more like PD-USGov, with some important differences though. A legal entity is a en:Juridical person, but note that it must be a “legal entity under public law” that must be the Herausgeber (roughly: editor, publisher), while at the same time no natural person is named (as author or Herausgeber). Various types of legal entities under public law are listed at de:Juristische Person#Juristische Person des öffentlichen Rechts, so basically Germany itself, the German states, districts, towns and villages, many universities, some churches (the big ones) and various other institutions that can govern themselves, but not companies (because those are legal entities under private law, not public law). And it's not valid for anything published in 1966 or later, when the relevant laws were changed/abolished. --Rosenzweig τ 12:41, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

Just changed some stuff

Hi, I've changed this template to make it more clear this tag only applies to fine art and photography, see COM:TAG Germany. This is because the law this is citing (this) only applies to fine art and photography. Matr1x-101 {user - talk? - useless contributions} 09:57, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

Actually it applies to works of the bildende Künste and photography. The German term bildende Künste does not 100 % correspond to the English term fine art because it also includes works which might be called applied art, decorative art or commercial art in English. --Rosenzweig τ 10:18, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

@Rosenzweig: so should I just change it to say "works of art" like in COM:TAG Germany? Matr1x-101 {user - talk? - useless contributions} 10:15, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

Just art is a bit broad, some people might understand this to include something like music. There is the term en:Visual arts, which is probably our best approximation, though filmmaking is not considered part of the de:Bildende Kunst in German. The best solution would probably be to use the original term and the English term visual arts in parentheses behind it. --Rosenzweig τ 12:04, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

Should be good now. Matr1x-101 {user - talk? - useless contributions} 09:06, 17 July 2023 (UTC)