Template talk:PD-Polish

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removed from article; please dont put it there, as otherwise all images with this template get a interwiki there ;o)


CoA must not have thecrown - it's People's Republic of Poland![edit]

Coat of arms of Poland (1955-1980).svg

Image:Herb_PRL.svg — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk • contribs) 12:19, 16 December 2007‎ (UTC)

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I updated the template's layout sandbox with a missing Coat of Arms of the Polish People's Republic and did some minor technical work. Now the layout reflects both republics. Please update Template:PD-Polish/layout source with Template:PD-Polish/layout/sandbox. Thanks! --Rezonansowy (talk) 16:16, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

@Jarekt, Fry1989, Arvedui89, Aight 2009, I think that covering both CoAs ultimately resolves the problem. --Rezonansowy (talk) 16:30, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
Polish coat of arms 1919-1927
Rezonansowy, for last 14 years {{PD-Polish}} and w:pl:Szablon:PD-PRL had only one Coat of Arms (COA) (w:pl:Szablon:PD-PRL still does). I realize that in the time period covered by the template several different COAs were used, and my guess someone picked the one used the longest. The template with 2 COAs is more correct but looks more cluttered to me, as I do not think many people outside of Poland would be able to tell them easily apart. I would vote to stick to a single COA, however, I would be interested in hearing opinions of other users, especially from Poland. If there is consensus for change, I will change it. --Jarekt (talk) 16:49, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
BTW, The new look would be as follows:
Public domain This photograph is in the public domain because according to the Art. 3 of copyright law of March 29, 1926 of the Republic of Poland and Art. 2 of copyright law of July 10, 1952 of the People's Republic of Poland, all photographs by Polish photographers (or published for the first time in Poland or simultaneously in Poland and abroad) published without a clear copyright notice before the law was changed on May 23, 1994 are assumed public domain in Poland.

This work is in the public domain in the United States because it meets three requirements:

  1. it was first published outside the United States (and not published in the U.S. within 30 days),
  2. it was first published before 1 March 1989 without copyright notice or before 1964 without copyright renewal or before the source country established copyright relations with the United States,
  3. it was in the public domain in its home country (Poland) on the URAA date ().

To uploader: Please provide where and when the image was first published.

Coat of arms of the Second Polish Republic
Coat of arms of the Polish People's Republic
@Jarekt: Thanks for providing the first CoA of the Second Polish Republic above. I used version for English Wikipedia as it was used longer. Please note that the template from Polish Wikipedia is wrong as its title and CoA refer only to the People's Republic of Poland, which was completely different country than the Second Republic of Poland. The thing is that even these two CoAs are similar, they refer to two different republics and different law systems. Leaving any of them without an indication is simply a mistake, it is incorrect and confuses readers as they see two different republics in text and only one coat of arms next to the text. --Rezonansowy (talk) 17:08, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
I'm not very familliar with the discussion here, but for sure File:Godlo PRL.svg is a bad choice for anything. It contains of a shield with a default cc0000 red tone. Choose whatever you choose, but these are IMHO correct in terms of colours and shield shape at least (still not perfect though, as Poland has a somewhat 3d coat of arms. Unique but very unpractical). Aʀvєδuι + 17:55, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
@Arvedui89: Thanks for the hint! If the is issue is only about colors then no problem. I updated the image to reflect the right colors. It seems that the previous image is also tagged as deprecated. Now should be OK. --Rezonansowy (talk) 18:40, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
We have such a huge mess with our symbols in Poland that it is hardly understandable. First official CoA was adopted in 1919 in the same law as the flag. None of the colours were described in any way. Shade of red of the flag was described as crimson few years later in a semi-official document. New law was passed in 1927 - with new CoA and a shade of red described literally as vermilion. Under the communist rule symbols weren't regulated since 1955, and at the same time they used simillar shield and an eagle to the previous one, while the crown was dropped and gold border removed. In 1955 this version was officially adopted. In 1980 red tone (on the flag of course) was described in a sophisticated manner as kinda-crimson. In 1989/1990 crown was restored, shield shape was slightly modified as were minor details. Finito. Aʀvєδuι + 06:53, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
@Arvedui89: And they are going to change it again now... – https://bezprawnik.pl/nowe-godlo-polski-2018/. --Rezonansowy (talk) 14:47, 20 March 2018 (UTC)