Template talk:PD-UKGov

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Update due on 1st June 2007[edit]

On 1st June 2007, para 1 of this template will need to be replaced with the following fixed text. This is due to the interaction of a fixed date (1st June 1957), when the old Copyright Act 1956 came into force, and a moving date whereby copyright in some cases expires 50 years after creation. --MichaelMaggs 11:46, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

  • 1. A photograph taken prior to 1 June 1957; or
This is wrong. Copyrights do not expire until the end of the year so no update will need to be made at the start of June. However at the end of 2007 the distinction mentioned below will need to be made. David Newton 22:14, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Update done. --MichaelMaggs 06:25, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Update due on 1st January 2008[edit]

On 1st January 2008, para 1 of this template will need to be replaced with the following text. This is due to the interaction of a fixed date (1st June 1957), when the old Copyright Act 1956 came into force, and a moving date whereby copyright in some cases expires 50 years after publication or creation. --MichaelMaggs 11:46, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

  • 1a. A photograph taken prior to 1 June 1957; or
  • 1b. A photograph taken on or after 1 June 1957 and which was published before 1st January {{ #expr: {{CURRENTYEAR}} - 50 }};or. Done. --MichaelMaggs 21:03, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Copyright restoration[edit]

The HMSO letter says, "Therefore, to use your example, material published in 1954, and any Crown copyright material published before that date, would now be out of copyright, and may be freely reproduced throughout the world." However, this may not apply in the U.S., because of URAA (Uruguay Rounds Agreement Act) copyright restorations. In general, anything copyrighted in the home country in 1996 (e.g. any Crown Copyright work created in the UK 1946 to 1995), is copyrighted in the U.S. 95 years from publication. See Cornell's copyright chart. Thus, anything made before 1946 should be PD in the U.S., but anything from 1946 to 2007 would not be PD in the U.S. until at least 2041. Currently, images affected by this are being tagged {{Not-PD-US-URAA}}; they may eventually have to be deleted. Superm401 - Talk 09:29, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

I would think government works are entirely different... they are a special form of PD-author, effectively. Carl Lindberg (talk) 16:30, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Per Commons talk:Licensing#Foreign government works and URAA, it seems that the HMSO letter is a declaration that the expiry of Crown Copyrights apply worldwide (hence ignoring/giving up the URAA restorations).

{{editprotected}} Can we reword the template to reflect this, so that

More information. See also Copyright, Crown copyright artistic works and HMSO Email Reply.

is changed to:

HMSO has declared that the expiry of Crown Copyrights applies worldwide (ref: HMSO Email Reply).
More information. See also Copyright and Crown copyright artistic works.

Jappalang (talk) 01:31, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

✓ Done — Mike.lifeguard 18:48, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Non-artistic works[edit]

Why was the non-artistic work text removed? Commons hosts a large amount of non-artistic work, such as scientific and educational content, so I've put this back.. Superm401 - Talk 09:35, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

It was removed correctly. This tag applies only to what is legally an "artistic work" under UK copyright law. An "artistic work" is not restricted to what is commonly called "art", and it includes any painting, drawing, sketch, doodle and so on irrespective of artistic merit. Works falling into this category can and do include images with scientific and educational content. What is (deliberately) excluded from this tag are "literary works", ie works that are copyright by virtue of text (eg a book, printed article and so on). The copyright criteria for these under UK law are different. --MichaelMaggs 11:17, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
Okay, my mistake. This may be worth clarifying further, because people have been known to occasionally upload purely text content here instead of Wikisource. Superm401 - Talk 11:20, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
What about sound recordings? I'm thinking of File:Another talk with the German Chancellor, Herr Hitler.ogg, for example (speech by a British politician). This discussion from 2011 is somewhat inconclusive regarding whether a recording is an "artistic work" for the purposes of this template. Superm401 - Talk 04:52, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

UK Government artistic works[edit]

{{editprotected}} Please change the category and {{incat}} template to categorize into "UK Government artistic works" instead of "UK Government images", per this discussion at the Village pump. :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 01:10, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

Create the category first, please. --Mormegil (talk) 09:58, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
✓ Done :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 07:55, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
And ✓ Done --Mormegil (talk) 11:07, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

Link check please[edit]

Can someone checkout, and if needs be amend, the link in the template http://www.museumscopyright.org.uk/crown-a.pdf now appears just to be a blank page with no pdf file available. 10:21, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

50 years[edit]

Anybody explain why if Crown copyright expires after 50 years the date is still 1957 and not 1962? Thanks. MilborneOne (talk) 12:38, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

@MilborneOne: A photo made by order of the Queen or a government department and used commercially between 1957 and 1965 is in the public domain. An image created before 1957 is in the public domain regardless of whether or not it has been used commercially. [1] Firebrace (talk) 20:39, 27 December 2015 (UTC)


Shouldn't we have HMSO linked to Office of Public Sector Information in the template text ? -- Juergen 13:15, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

Please add Machine readable datas[edit]

{{edit request}} As per m:File metadata cleanup drive/How to fix metadata, please add these

|class = licensetpl
|text = <span class="licensetpl_long">''This artistic work ...(tl;dr)... ''See also [[:en:Copyright|Copyright]] and [http://web.archive.org/web/20090317005703/http://www.museumscopyright.org.uk/crown-a.pdf Crown copyright artistic works]''.
<div style="display: none">
<span class="licensetpl_short">PD-UKGov</span>
<span class="licensetpl_link">{{fullurl:{{FULLPAGENAME}}}}</span>

above. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 00:39, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

No longer necessary template caries Machine readable data. --Jarekt (talk) 15:20, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

Please consider using HTTPS links[edit]

{{edit request}} A number of links in the template support HTTPS, and the Wikimedia sites have basically gone to HTTPS by default. Please consider changing the following links in {{PD-UKGov/en}} to use HTTPS:

  • http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikipedia-l/2005-May/022055.html should be changed to https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikipedia-l/2005-May/022055.html
  • http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/information-management/our-services/crown-copyright.htm should be changed to https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/information-management/our-services/crown-copyright.htm
  • http://web.archive.org/web/20090317005703/http://www.museumscopyright.org.uk/crown-a.pdf should be changed to https://web.archive.org/web/20090317005703/http://www.museumscopyright.org.uk/crown-a.pdf

--Gazebo (talk) 06:20, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

✓ Done --Jarekt (talk) 14:01, 7 January 2016 (UTC)