Template talk:PD-old-assumed

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120 years[edit]

The period of 120 years is based on a community discussion including a vote. Do not change this period without clear evidence that the community has changed its mind since this vote. Jcb (talk) 22:56, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

Improvement suggestion[edit]

It would be nice if the template had a parameter for the date of creation, if known. Similar to "deathyear" in {{PD-old-auto-1923}}. Gestumblindi (talk) 20:53, 16 April 2017 (UTC)

Also, how about a combined tag such as "PD-old-assumed-1923" for works created more than 120 years ago and published before 1923? So we wouldn't need to add a separate US PD-1923 tag. Gestumblindi (talk) 20:55, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
Feel free to create such improvements. I am not so familiar with the code. I have created this template so that we at least had something that we could use. Jcb (talk) 20:59, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
Yes, I think it's an appropriate template that will probably see quite a lot of use in the future. I'm not a coder either, so whom should/could we ask? Gestumblindi (talk) 21:15, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
Multichill maybe? Or we could ask in the Village Pump? If anyone who is not an admin wants to work on this, please ping me and I will unprotect the template. Jcb (talk) 21:19, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
Well, Multichill wasn't active in the last few days, so let's wait for a while, maybe he'll chime in. - By the way, I think that there a probably thousands, maybe tens of thousands of files currently tagged as "PD-old" that are, in fact, rather "PD-old-assumed" and should use this new, more precise template. Do you think we should try to change these systematically or on a case-by-case basis? Gestumblindi (talk) 16:29, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
A systematic action seems very time consuming to me, prepared to the limited gain. If I come accross a file tagged with {PD-old} where {PD-old-assumed} would be better, I change it. This would apply to files with only a limited time span. Files from e.g. over 150 years old will be safe anyway. Jcb (talk) 15:18, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

Category PD Old? No, PD-Old are files that are certainly free.[edit]

{{editprotected}} Why in Category:PD Old. It ihmo must put files in a maintenance category like category:PD Old (assumed) or similar. With an advice in the category that files could be not in PD-Old and should be checked. This category could be also a subcategory of category:Unidentified artists or at least linked to category:Unidentified artists.--Pierpao.lo (listening) 09:07, 23 October 2017 (UTC)

✓ Done I've changed the template to categorize files into category:PD Old (assumed). I did not make category:PD Old (assumed) a subcategory of category:Unidentified artists as {{PD-old-assumed}} might be used on pages with known authors with unknown dates of death. —RP88 (talk) 18:31, 23 October 2017 (UTC)

Suggestion for improvement 2: not 70 years pma countries[edit]

We could add a parameter (e.g. the first: 1=) for countries where it's not 70 years after the death of the author. For instance New Zealand, where 50 years are considered for photographs. Using {{PD-old-assumed|1=50}}  would change the text from "The copyright situation of this work is theoretically uncertain, because in the country of origin copyright lasts 70 years after the death of the author, and the date of the author's death is unknown. However, the date of creation of the work was over 120 years ago…" to "The copyright situation of this work is theoretically uncertain, because in the country of origin copyright lasts 50 years after the death of the author, and the date of the author's death is unknown. However, the date of creation of the work was over 100 years ago…". What do you reckon? --Ruthven (msg) 19:21, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

Seems a good idea to me. en:List of countries' copyright lengths shows quite some countries with a PMA+50 rule. Jcb (talk) 21:23, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
✓ Done --Ruthven (msg) 13:07, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

Translation[edit]

Why is here no translation like in Template:PD-old-text? --HerrAdams (talk) 12:14, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

Edit Request[edit]

{{edit request}} Substitute "and it is thus a reasonable assumption" for "and so it is a reasonable assumption". It's better grammar. Jarnsax (talk) 00:02, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

Done. Gestumblindi (talk) 20:17, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

here-link[edit]

{{edit request}} ... should be to here not to here. --Habitator terrae (talk) 14:45, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

Done. Gestumblindi (talk) 20:18, 6 July 2018 (UTC)