User:-jkb-/Talk Friedhof Bergmann

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moved from Category talk:Friedhof Bergmannstraße (orphan page)


As for the template

{{Badname|cat created by a tourist. He meant: [[:de:Friedhöfe an der Bergmannstraße]]}}

on the main page by Mutter Erde: First, dear Mutter Erde, can you explain what tourist is? I work here probably longer than you (since May 2004). And secondly: this category, maybe incorrect by name, exists since April 2007, so that you could assume there will be some more interwikis. If you recategorized all images (sure, it is good), so do not tag the category for speedy deletion immediately. That is a nonsence. Thanks, -jkb- (cs.source) 07:17, 23 August 2008 (UTC)


By the way: it is a small nonsence to create some three or four new categories with some three or four images in it instead of this one. Next time: a simply renaming would be better, as the cemeteries belongs together. Here should be a soft redirect. -jkb- (cs.source) 07:19, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Nonsense is to keep a lemma, that is not correct and therefore nobody will use. But I don't care.
I am the creator of 3 of the de-articles plus the introduction de:Friedhöfe an der Bergmannstraße, Benutzer S1 did the fourth cemetery. We were then amused that a tourist (=you) has filled 2 articles with pics of nonrelevant graves. Not one of your grave-pics was and is mentioned. And we were asking us: Why we write articles when people are not reading them? It was a mixture between amusement and sadness.
Anyway: Yesterday I began to sort the category "Cemeteries in Berlin" and so I have created some special cemetery cats according to the de-articles to get a light into this jungle cat.
And please: Next time you want to visit a historic cemetery (or as here: 4 historic cemeteries with their own walls) in Berlin, please read the article first and then make/upload your pictures. Thank you. Regards Mutter Erde (talk) 08:39, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Dear, it is nice to know that I was able to amuse you. But nevertheless, here some points:

  1. congratulations to have created the articles on de.wiki (by the way, the IP adress that did so - was it the alternate account after having been blocked?)
  2. what is or not is a relevant grave is your POV
  3. the articles about the cemeteries in the Bergmannstrasse are not articles about cemeteries with or for some known people
  4. all cemeteries in the Bergmannsgtrasse are known as nice old cemeteries, with a special atmosphere; so every photo that shows this is relevant even if the grave is a grave of a unknown man or woman (thus, do you think that articles about other cemeteries must not contain any images because the graves are unknown?)
  5. last but not least: me as tourist, visiting once in a life the Bergmannstrasse... You are funny. Since 1983 i.e. for 25 years I am living in the Bergmannstrasse in front of the cemeteries, so on days I am working at home I can see them for some ten hours a day. An it is nice to have a walk there, my dear. If you need some information on it, so please ask me, I will gladly help you.

Thanks for understanding, -jkb- (cs.source) 17:42, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

  • Hi, first
  1. thank you. It's correct, Mutter Erde is banned and I'm not interested in a new account. But you can't stop a real encyclopedean, right? See my my last article from yesterday: de:St. Marien- und St. Nikolai-Friedhof I
  2. simple answer: the blue names are yet relevant, the red ones will be relevant
  3. sure they are. Otherwise they would be deleted in wp.de. (btw: Berlin has 200 cemeteries and the majority is not interesting)
  4. yes, thisis right. But here you have a real big choice between many famous people
  5. mmh, an old problem. But I know that. I'm also more familiar with the graveyards of strange people than with the cemetery of my aunt and my grandnom, which is not far away from my home.
Reste des Erbbegräbnisses des Star-Architekten Hermann von der Hude, daneben ein Mausoleum mit Garagentor (September 2006)
  • It's interesting, that you are living there. Do you have some pics from your first years in the Bergmannstraße? For example of graves which are destroyed in the meantime? Or little scandals as this pic from Jerusalem IV? Regards Mutter Erde (talk) 20:14, 24 August 2008 (UTC)