User talk:Sarang

Sarang (talk: sarang) is primarily a user of the German Wikipedia. At the Commons, I mainly try to improve the categorization and to simplify SVG drawings.
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Every SVG file uploaded to Wikimedia Commons should show

• how it was made: use template {{Inkscape}}, {{Adobe}}, {{HandSVG}} or whatsever
• whether it is valid or invalid due to W3C: set the appropriate parameter of the template,

e.g. {{Image generation}} (short: Igen)

You should check the appearance and the validity before you upload a new file: use the tool Commons SVG Checker .

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Template talk:Created with Inkscape - Edit request

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Freigabe der Testversion

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Wrong crossbar angle

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Gnuplot problems

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A barnstar for you!

	The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
	Thanks so much for your kindness and informative discussion regarding my recent creation and implementation of {{By color}}. I really do appreciate it. All the best! Michael Barera (talk) 23:37, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

{{Creator}} im Feld "Artist" der {{COAInformation}}

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Template:Image generation

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A kitten for you!

Thanks for categorizing my pictures from New Zealand!

Podzemnik (talk) 18:16, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

AusGovStat

Hi Sarang,

I've tried to put the AusGovStat files from Category:Valid SVG created with Gnuplot into Category:Valid SVG created with Gnuplot-AusGovStat, which was impossible. May you please help me? Should I copy them into the more specific category?--Gszegosz (talk) 10:19, 12 July 2017 (UTC)

Hi @Gszegosz:, thank you for category diffusion. The categorizing into Valid SVG created with Gnuplot occurs in the template {{AustralianBureauStatistics}} where it can be easily changed to another [sub]category. If you need more info, just ask me! -- sarang♥사랑 11:11, 12 July 2017 (UTC)

At the moment it categorizes now as you want; but the template {{AustralianBureauStatistics}} has not a very good solution. Its displays are somehow fine when used at the source= parameter, but looks bad when used at the description= parameter. It should be solved in another way - it can be done later. -- sarang♥사랑 11:45, 12 July 2017 (UTC)

A bettter solution is to remove the Gnuplot from the template and set it in the other fields as I did it for an example there. I will become a bot work to do this for the many thousand files affected. I will set up a request. -- sarang♥사랑 22:02, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

@Perhelion: ich habe das mal gecheckt, es betrifft wohl an die 57000 Dateien die der Überarbeitung bedürfen:

SVG maps using data from the Australian Bureau of Statistics	56,981 files,
Demographic maps of Australia by Statistical Local Area based on the 2011 Census of Population and Housing	7869	1379 errors
Demographic maps of Inner Sydney by Postal Area based on the 2011 Census of Population and Housing	7860	244 errors
Demographic maps of Inner Sydney by Statistical Area Level 1 based on the 2011 Census of Population and Housing	7864
Demographic maps of Inner Sydney by Statistical Local Area based on the 2011 Census of Population and Housing	7868
Demographic maps of New South Wales by Postal Area based on the 2011 Census of Population and Housing	7866
Demographic maps of Queensland by Postal Area based on the 2011 Census of Population and Housing	7869
Demographic maps of Victoria by Postal Area based on the 2011 Census of Population and Housing	7868
Demographic maps of Victoria by Statistical Area Level 1 based on the 2011 Census of Population and Housing	1916

Überall müsste einiges geändert, plus das Igen eingebaut werden. Ginge ja gut mit VFC aber bei dieser Menge nicht mehr machbar, da ist ein bot gefragt. Die Anzahl der Fehler erscheint bei jeder Kategorie dieselbe zu sein, dein script zählt nur bis 1000 und hört dann auf.
Die Instruktionen für so einen bot kann ich vorbereiten, |Other fields={{Igen|+|244|%|>|s=acm}} etc.
Nach meinen Erfahrungen ist es recht schwierig mit einem bot-Betreiber in Kontakt zu kommen. Ich versuch es mal, und wenn es garnicht geht frage ich dich ob du eine Idee hast. Gruss -- sarang♥사랑 14:16, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

Visio-TD-scenarionewgood.svg u. a.

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Full stop for other language

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Was machen wenn zwei Programme verwendet wurden (Igen)

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A barnstar for you!

		The Cleanup Barnstar
		This Special Barnstar is awarded to Sarang by Johannes Kalliauer and Perhelion: Thanks for tagging, categorizing, cleaning and fixing up a huge amount of file descriptions, and thank you for being a very helpful user, thank you for your contribution to the drive! -- 21:35, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

Massdelete Created with ...

Hey Sarang, in der Tat schrecke ich vor dieser Löschung zurück. Aus zwei Gründen 1. ist ein Speedydelete nicht unbedingt gegeben, 2. Müssen alte Versionen von Templates und Übersetzungen aus copyright-rechtlichen Gründen erhalten bleiben. Daher würde ich erstmal einen regulären LA stellen (und dann die Liste ggf posten).

you have to move it to Example/fr to ensure the page history, which also serves for the attribution requirement of the Creative Commons License, all texts at Commons are licensed under, is merged. If you do not move it, the subpages created by the Extension (as soon as a translation to one language was started) must be deleted and the page where the translation was copied from must be moved there (both moving to and deleting a subpage require temporary unmarking a page from translation).

Commons:Preparing a page for translation

See also meta:Don't delete redirects -- User: Perhelion 08:27, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

@Perhelion: Wenn das so kompliziert und reglementiert ist, dann ziehe ich meinen LA zuruck. Es gibt ohnehin keinerlei aktiven Link mehr auf eine dieser Vorlagen, und der Inhalt/die Codierung ist (zumindest tw.) uberschrieben, weil ich sie in einer Kategorie gesammelt habe; aber die Versionsgeschichten enthalten noch alles. Eigentlich liegt es mir mehr, nach dem Abschluss dieser Sache alles aufzuraumen; aber wenn irgendwelche Regeln verlangen dass diese Leichen weiterhin herumliegen, soll es mir recht sein. Wir wollen hoffen, dass nicht jemand daruber stolpert und in die Irre geleitet wird! 0 Schon passiert: siehe User talk:Sarang/Archive/2018#Question

Etwas anderes, nicht-dringendes: die beiden Vorlagen Created with Inkscape/sandbox und Created with Adobe Illustrator/sandbox enthalten verbesserten Code, mit dem einiges einfacher ermittelt wird und eine bessere Textausgabe bei den SVG files without W3C-specification erfolgt. Wie gesagt, das ist nicht dringend, es handelt sich im Wesentlichen "nur" um die Textausgabe. Also eine Art halber edit request - ich stelle dir anheim ob du die Vorlagen ubertragen willst oder nicht.

Bezuglich der redirects habe ich in meta:Talk:Don't_delete_redirects#Another_exception einen Beitrag gepostet; was meinst du, sollte er in den Artikel? Gruss -- sarang♥사랑 12:44, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

SVG code

Hello Sarang, I noticed that you simplified the code of an SVG I uploaded about one year ago. Thus I think you're the right person to whom to ask some information about the code. When I read i.e. path stroke="#962192" d="m1,6h264" stroke means the color that fills the path? and what do d, h and m stand for? I suppose they should be measurement in pixel but I never found a tutorial that addressed that so specifically. Thanks! -- SERGIO ^{(aka the Blackcat)} 15:33, 21 December 2018 (UTC)

@Blackcat:

(talk page stalker)

• stroke means the colour of the line
  • #962192 is the color: 96 is the amout of red, 21 is the amount of green and 92 is the amount of blue
• d means that the path-data
  • h and m see http://lmgtfy.com/?q=path+tag+svg or https://www.w3schools.com/graphics/svg_path.asp

Generally I would recommend to edit the values and see what changes.

 — Johannes Kalliauer - Talk | Contributions 18:20, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

Ok @JoKalliauer:, thanks. -- SERGIO ^{(aka the Blackcat)} 18:48, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

Anleitung

Hallo Sarang!

Ich wollte irgendeine Anleitung schreiben, weil ein unkundiger (vermutlich Neuling) irgendetwas nicht wusste. Ich weiß nicht mehr wofür. (Wie man ein Vektorlogo von einem PDF extrahiert?)

Ich glaube du warst involviert. Kannst du meinen Gedächtnis auf die Sprünge helfen?

 — Johannes Kalliauer - Talk | Contributions 18:25, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

{{BadPDF}}

@Magog the Ogre: tags Vektor-PDF without graphic data, with {{BadPDF}}

“This file was uploaded in PDF, despite containing only graphic data. If possible, please upload an (extracted) image version of this file instead. See Commons:File types for more information.”

— {{BadPDF}}

But there in many cases there are no images to extract.

For example:

• File:Addition Demonstration.pdf, contains real Text (can be copy-Pasted) and one black line
• File:Heartbeat Concept Map.pdf, contains only vector data (path&text) but no embedded picture (not even a tiny one)

In my opinion this is a misuse of the Template.

I told him/her, but (s)he thinks (s)he knows it better: User_talk:Magog_the_Ogre/Archive_27#{{BadPDF}} (I know (s)he has much more knowledge and has a better reputation then me, but I still think I'm right in this specific part.)

I see three possible solutions/explanations:

1. {{BadPDF}} should get another text (That is clear to everyone what is ment)
2. We should inform User:Magog the Ogre that (s)he tags the images wrong.
3. I'm stupid/ We don't understand each other

I'm not sure if Magog the Ogre fully understands the difference between Raster and Vektor. At least I think adding {{Vva}} to Vector-Version is misleading. (Special:Diff/336572586) I think in such cases {{Superseded}} should be preferred.

Maybe you can help me,

1. to explain this Admin, that there is a huge difference between
   1. Category:VectorPDF that can be converted to SVG, which can be converted to SVG
   2. Category:Fake PDF, which can be extracted to PNG or JPEG

   and Category:Files with inappropriate PDF format should not contain any files, since converting and extracting are two completely different tasks. (Where I use different software.)

2. or maybe you can tell me where I'm wrong

PS: Enjoy your holidays!

 — Johannes Kalliauer - Talk | Contributions 22:12, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

Order of tinctures?

Hi. You're in the edit history of {{Tincture}}, so I assume you know how the tincture categories are supposed to work. :)

There's a category "Azure and argent in heraldry" and a category "Argent and azure in heraldry". I can't see a reason for both of them to exist. The category "Argent, azure, gules, Or, sable, vert in heraldry" implies that the tinctures are supposed to be in alphabetical order, so "Azure and argent in heraldry" should be turned into a redirect to "Argent and azure in heraldry". Right? Am I missing something? TilmannR (talk) 22:22, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

I opened a CfD. -- User: Perhelion 00:16, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

@Perhelion, TilmannR: Unfortunately it is more complicated. I often mentioned that there is a need to clearify these questions. Years ago I had been told that the order (how the tincts are specified) should always be: argent, Or and then all the others in alphabetical order (a/A/O/b/B/c/..). But the categories follow partly another system, where also argent and Or are alphabetically sorted... So in the case you questioned only "Argent and azure" are within the system, and the definition should also be "a/b", and the contents of Azure and argent in heraldry should be transferred.

There are also other voices telling that we don't need any of these categories.

For the automatic categorization I made a tool which can categorize correct specified tincts into the currently existing categories, whether their names follow the one or the other system. The automatic cat can easily be changed if a consent wishes other category names, or even switched off if a consent wishes no cat — where categorisation occurs without template, more work is needed. At the moment the cat template is invokeded when the template FIAV ≡ Tincture is used, directly or via Igen. -- sarang♥사랑 12:23, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

@Perhelion, Sarang: Regarding "we don't need any of these categories": Argent and azure in heraldry is useful as a super-category for things like Argent a bend azure. I guess instead of removing Azure and argent in heraldry, it could become the super-category of all Azure a ... argent categories. I don't know. Or are people arguing that we shouldn't categorize coats of arms by blazon at all (i.e. they also want to delete Argent a bend azure)? TilmannR (talk) 14:11, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

The "cat" of ACClicense

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