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Image Ivar_Kreuger.jpg

Put back the Kreuger image. You do not have the athority to delete this image. The image have been on wikipedia all around the world now for more then 1.5 year. What is the purpose of your behavour without asking the community if someone have a better license reference? before deleting it? 20:16, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
Image was without source. If you provide source, I restore it.--Ahonc (talk) 21:26, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
Put the following license data to the image, valid in Sweden (the photo must be from around 1928-30). Author=The photografer is not known; Permission={{PD-Sweden-photo}} Lidingo 15:01, 2 June 2008 (UTC)



you put a notification on the page, that this image lacks copyright information. I included it according to Article 10 of the Law of Ukraine on Copyright and Related rights, which states that all symbols of territorial communities are public domain. I do not recall exactly anymore, from which page I downloaded the picture. It is already quite some time ago.

Best Greetings

--Skluesener 13:08, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

But what source confirms that it is flag of the city of Cherkasy?--Ahonc (talk) 13:13, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

For example: [1]

--Skluesener 21:57, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

File:Lanz HM.jpg

Hi. I noticed you deleted Image:Lanz HM.jpg recently. I understand and do not dispute the reasoning. My query is that a new version of the file was uploaded 'recently', and I wondered whether the new version had accidentally over-written the earlier licence details.

My interest is that this image is very helpful in the Wikipedia article Hot bulb engine, and I was wondering if the earlier version had the correct licence, in which case I'd be really grateful if you could restore the earlier version, please.

Thanks for your time, in advance. PeterJewell 13:45, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

License was removed on May 25 by user Hcq before uploading new version.--Ahonc (talk) 14:43, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Image:World renewable energy 2005a.png

Hi, I just saw this was deleted with the summary, "In category Unknown as of 24 May 2008; no license". I came here from renewable energy, after noticing the missing image. Can you tell me if the image bears any resemblance to the material seen here? It sounds like it was user-created based on information from the PDF. Can you tell me what you know? Thanks. Viriditas 23:54, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

It was without license.--Ahonc (talk) 14:45, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
We have established the fact that the image was unlicensed. But the information isn't really protected by anyone, and I'm curious if it was a user-created image; I assume that it was so it should not have been deleted. Can you please tell me who the original author is so I can contact them and have them upload a new copy? Thanks in advance. Viriditas 13:56, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
I restored image history.--Ahonc (talk) 15:37, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
Thanks! I will contact Gralo... Viriditas 15:19, 9 June 2008 (UTC)


  • Добрый день. Можно снести из этой категории два ненужных изображения 50 гривен "Образец"? Они ужасного разрешения (несмотря на 90 кб, гораздо меньше) и дубли. Спасибо. --Vizu 13:51, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
✓  Done Удалил.--Ahonc (talk) 13:53, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
Спасибо! --Vizu 13:59, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

RFA -- Thank You!

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Catfishing.jpg Assume good faith lolcat.jpg Cat findz sox.jpg
Cute kitteh.jpg Gretel Eating Newcomers.jpg Server-kitty.jpg
Thank you for your support & comments in my RFA!!

I figured a bunch of Lolcats were more fun that me trying to write a logical "thank you". Silly, Aren't they?

ShakataGaNai Talk

Image:Segelzeichen nummeriert.jpg, Image:Segelzeichen.jpg

Was soll der Mist, das war eine Zusammenstellung freier und gültig lizenzierter Bilder! Die Links zu den Originalbildern waren auf der Beschreibungsseite angegeben also gab es keinerlei Grund die Bearbeitungen zu löschen. --Btr 12:02, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Images were without license.--Ahonc (talk) 12:18, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
My God! Every single image has a free license and a collage of free images is free, too! Ok, that was the short private lessons on copyright - now can you please tell me why Commons-Admins show their incompetence at questions of copyright as often as they can? Are you not able to follow the given links to the source-files? (Image:420er_007.jpg, Image:Kielzugvogel_u._Pirat.jpg, Image:Tempest.jpg, Image:Star_001.jpg, Image:J-24_yacht_racing,_Sydney_Harbour.jpg)
I was active on research at de-new files for some time and with a little source/license-investigation we saved images without any information.
I think I should heed some users advice to load no images to Commons any more - can you please reconstitute the images, I load them immediately to de. I'm sorry, I deleted the file on my computer, because I thought this simple collage is even unproblematic on Commons! --Btr 18:32, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
Any image on Commons must have license tag.--Ahonc (talk) 18:37, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Broken Link = Delete?

I happened to see Image:5.56mm-military-rounds.jpg get deleted because an article containing it was in my watchlist - is this really a valid reason to delete? —Random832 15:24, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

I can't check that it is PD-USGov, because link is broken.--Ahonc (talk) 15:27, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
That's your problem - it's still not a valid reason for deletion. Someone checked it at the time it was uploaded I assume. —Random832 15:29, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
I've started a discussion - Commons:Village pump#Broken link = "can't check" PD status. —Random832 15:32, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Image:ROU-FRA 2008-06-09.svg

Hi there. Can I ask why you reverted to an older version of this image? PeeJay 15:31, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

In that version text was transformed to image, and I cannot edit it.--Ahonc (talk) 18:09, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
Did you need to edit it? PeeJay 08:10, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
Yes. I translated it into Ukrainian: Image:ROU-FRA 2008-06-09 (uk).svg.--Ahonc (talk) 10:13, 11 June 2008 (UTC)


I don't know. I doubt it. I guess that picture will have to be deleted. Bit of a shame. — Dan | Talk 21:22, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Вопрос как к администратору

Наткнулась тут на человека, который, похоже, залил на коммонс все свои отпускные фотки. Скажите, вот такие вещи в проекте принято сохранять? энциклопедической ценности-то у них никакой, и иллюстрировать они ничего не могут Image:Cappadocia 038 n.jpg, Image:Cappadocia 041 n.jpg. (Там еще много фото кусков гор под снегом, но там хоть какой-то смысл). Можно ли их куда-нибудь выставлять, или тут не принято такое удалять?--Shakko 10:52, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Я думаю, их можно удалить, как не подпадающие под COM:SCOPE. Выставить их можно на удаление: COM:DR.--Ahonc (talk) 11:04, 11 June 2008 (UTC)


Not ever, this PNG is a dupe becouse a bitmap render of the original SVG. Check it, if you don't belive me. Both images are mine, so I think I know what I say... --F l a n k e r 12:10, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

I can't delte it as dupe. Put request to COM:DR.--Ahonc (talk) 14:53, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
You can, as many other admins before you delete other images that I've marked as a duplicate of an SVG. The rules are about the PNG that are superseded by an SVG, not render of an SVG (i.e. exact duplicate, pixel by pixel). Why we must have two exact duplicates of a same image? --F l a n k e r 19:18, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
Any news? --F l a n k e r 22:51, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
No news. Ask another admin.--Ahonc (talk) 08:22, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
Ask another? LOL, you are the admin that remove my request to delete the image and lock the page! So, I think, you must provide a reason for that. --F l a n k e r (talk) 11:53, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
OK, I unlocked it.--Ahonc (talk) 11:57, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Image:Alexander III. Czar Of Russia Nadar.jpg, Image:Albert I. Of Monaco Nadar.jpg

Здравствуйте! Почему Вы удалили файлы этого автора Félix Nadar?--Mariluna 15:10, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Не был указан источник, подтверждающий, что это фото именно того автора (там стоял шаблон {{no source}}, его поставил участник OsamaK).--Ahonc (talk) 15:15, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
На многих старых изображениях нет источников. И что, если стоит такой шаблон, то нужно удалять?--Mariluna 15:22, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
В общем, да. Та как невозможно проверить, что они действительно принадлежат указанному автору.--Ahonc (talk) 08:24, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Добрый вечер

{{PD-RusEmpire}} - шаблон по тексту нового закона России. Все работы, опубликованные либо выставленные до 7 ноября 1917 года, подпадают под действие данного шаблона, независимо от даты смерти автора. Поэтому, пожалуйста, нельзя ли восстановить изображение: Image:Alexander III. Czar Of Russia Nadar.jpg? -- 17:25, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

А можете указать источник, откуда взято изображение, чтобы можно было проверить, что оно ндействительно того автора?--Ahonc (talk) 18:01, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
Нет, не могу. Ведь я его не вижу, а по памяти не помню. -- 19:15, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
Я временно восстановил.--Ahonc (talk) 19:25, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
Но ведь ясно написано - автор фото умер в 1910 году. В любом случае это ведь сканированная фотогграфия, как её можно удалять? -- 21:08, 13 June 2008 (UTC)


Could you comment on this, since you were the deleting admin for the image in question. Thanks. --ShakataGaNai Talk 21:08, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Image:Symbol of Kyoto Prefecture.svg

Видалити цей герб руки не дійшли? Чи по голові сусіди надавали?--Alex Tora (talk) 11:50, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Не дійшли.--Ahonc (talk) 11:52, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Trusted User?

Hi Ahonc, you were as kind as to add me to the "trusted user" list for MediaMoveBot, but were very probably unaware of the consequences ;]]

I'm an elderly guy who will for sure not try any sabotage, but might do such by error 8(

At the moment, I do not know how to "approve" an image to be renamend. Those instructions were, imo, written for people a few decades younger than me. Therefore, I please ask you to show on the example of Image:U2Erweiterung 20080506 335 Russkaja - Antonia-Alexa Georgiew.jpg what has to be done to "approve" a requested rename (which I requested myself before applying for "trusted user" status).

You might as well consider to overwrite Image:How-To.gif with a screenshot which might explain better than words could do.

TX, and best wishes, Wolfgang --WeHaWoe (talk) 14:59, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

You may only put template {{Rename}} or {{Rename media}}, and bot which renames images checks who make the last edit in image. If it is user from list on CheckPage or admin, bot renames image, else it writes «rename failed».--Ahonc (talk) 16:59, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
So, do I understand right that
  1. the above quoted edit would be sufficiant? and
  2. there would not show up any "special notice" on having properly "tagged" that pic (to "attract" the bot)?
On deWP, there is a similar system to tag article's edits by newbies, in order to reduce "stuff" for admins, for a few weeks. Thatone however shows the article as "tagged by a trusted user", and that's why I was worried. TX, --WeHaWoe (talk) 17:36, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
Yes, there is no special notice.--Ahonc (talk) 18:43, 15 June 2008 (UTC)


I'm a flickr reviewer! Thanks for your support! :D Brynn(talk) 15:40, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Gelöschtes Bild

Hallo Ahonc, du hast vor ein paar Tagen ein Bild von mir gelöscht, mit angeblich nicht geklärter Urheberstatus. Auf meiner Disk ganz unten. Ich bin mir allerdings sicher, dass ich das Jahr der Erstellung des Bildes angegeben habe. Und das Jahr lässt nicht die geringste Zweifel aufkommen, dass der Ersteller des Bildes seit mindestens 70 Jahre tot ist. Wie jetzt vorgehen? Viele Grüße -- Rainer Lippert (talk) 21:34, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

PS.: Es wurde erst heute gelöscht, wie ich eben merke. -- Rainer Lippert (talk) 21:35, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

PPS.: In der Bildbeschreibung des gelöschten Bildes stand 1902. Dürfte so auch in der Bildbeschreibung selbst so stehen. Ist also demnach älter als 100 Jahre. Bestehen da noch Ansprüche? Es müsste doch frei sein? -- Rainer Lippert (talk) 21:39, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Es gab keine Quelle dort. Wir können Publikationdatum oder Todesdatum des Erstellers nicht prüfen. --Ahonc (talk) 21:51, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
Auch nicht eine Altersangabe 1902? Lässt sich das Bild wieder herstellen, so dass ich eventuell fehlendes noch Nachtrage? -- Rainer Lippert (talk) 15:38, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
Ich glaube nur einer Altersangabe nicht. Gib Quelle. Ich kann das Bild herstellen, aber ich sehe keinen Grund für das.--Ahonc (talk) 16:17, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
OK, danke für die Antwort! Nun ist wohl mein letzter guter Wille mit Commons aufgebraucht, und ich werde in der Zukunft wohl nur noch in de:WP hochladen, auch wenn es bei den Kandidaturen meiner Artikel dann immer zu Diskussionen kommen wird, warum nicht in Commons hochgeladen. Viele Grüße -- Rainer Lippert (talk) 16:30, 19 June 2008 (UTC)


Озабоченный вандал. --Shakko (talk) 11:35, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Заблокировал уже.--Ahonc (talk) 11:40, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
User:Faggot Cunt он же. И закройте мою страницу от редактирования новым участникам плиз.--Shakko (talk) 11:45, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
Его уже заблокировал другой администратор. Страницу защитил.--Ahonc (talk) 11:48, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
User:Metrostan. Можно еще страницу обсуждения плиз. --Shakko (talk) 12:07, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
Не успел :) Его уже заблокировали. Страницу защитил.--Ahonc (talk) 12:10, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
спасибо. а что ему не запретят регистрироваться? или он с опен прокси ходит?--Shakko (talk) 12:11, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
Наверно прокси.--Ahonc (talk) 12:15, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for your help with all these - appreciated, regards --Herby talk thyme 12:26, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, they wanted my password too. Rocket000 (talk) 13:03, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Still at it too :) --Herby talk thyme 13:06, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
That last one would not have edited easily - I blocked the IP almost immediately :) Thanks again for your work on this --Herby talk thyme 15:15, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
He had offensive username. Btw user Benedetto xvi is impostor of ru-wiki user Benedetto xvi.--Ahonc (talk) 15:20, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

IP block

This is an open proxy so I'd be happy to see rather longer? Thanks --Herby talk thyme 17:15, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

I reblock him.--Ahonc (talk) 17:56, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Вилучення зображеннь символіки

Можеш вилучати. Різник:) В Києві буду не дуже скоро--Uk-Kamelot (talk) 17:40, 20 June 2008 (UTC)


Why did you mark this image for 'no license'? It has the licence NoRightsReserved (Although I would mark it as PA-art instead), it states the author (Grigory Gagarin a 19th century painter which I added but you reverted that). The author and source are also clear "This photo is from my collection and belong to me personally." wrote en:User:Ldingley. So its his/her work but it was released without rights. So why did you add 'no license' and did not start a normal deletion request instead? As it is to me absolutely unclear why this PD-image should be deleted. --Hardscarf (talk) 17:46, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

I agree to start normal DR.--Ahonc (talk) 17:58, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Image:Kit body orangecollar.png

I restored this image even if the uploader had not provided a source. It ineligeble for copyright. Hope this is ok with you. Regards, Finn Rindahl (talk) 19:22, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

500? 200? MediaMove instruction confusion

Hi, I noticed you had rejected my request for MediaMove permission because I have less than 500 edits. I had read the instructions page, and it says that users only need 200 edits to apply; this is why I had added my name to the request list. The change to the instruction page was made here, apparently in response to the discussion at Commons talk:MediaMoveBot/CheckPage#500 edits?. If that change is incorrect, correcting it would prevent both applicants and approving admins from wasting time on requests by users with too few edits. Lyrl (talk) 01:56, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Yes, it was my mistake. You was added to the lixt by Giggy two weeks ago. [2]--Ahonc (talk) 09:08, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

AWB and DR

Please stop using AWB to add DR notices until you add a reason to the tag so that each image doesn't end up in Category:Incomplete deletion requests. Cheers. Adambro (talk) 17:11, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

OK. I added reason.--Ahonc (talk) 17:16, 22 June 2008 (UTC)


Думаю, что лучше будет прінять решение незаинтересованной стороне. Мне кажется, лучше вернуть предыдущую версию и вынести вопрос на Commons:Categories for discussion. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 16:09, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Ну можешь вынести.--Ahonc (talk) 16:11, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
Сделано. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:07, 23 June 2008 (UTC)


Hallo. Thank you for your translating of hsb: Wikipedija:Hornjoserbšćina. Greetings --Tlustulimu (talk) 20:08, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Delinker Commands

See - remember to remove that extra "image:" . Regards, Finn Rindahl (talk) 20:16, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Delinker ignores it. --Ahonc (talk) 20:20, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
OK, didn't know that - saves me an extra edit in the future. Thanks, Finn Rindahl (talk) 20:28, 27 June 2008 (UTC)


Just letting you know that your edit slightly screwed things up on the category voting page. :-) By the way, sorry about stirring things up on ukwiki a while back, I was off to a bad start. --Akhristov (talk) 13:22, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Мог бы и по-русски написать (мне сейчас искать в словаре незнакомые слова, переводить...) :) --Ahonc (talk) 13:25, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Ah... My keyboard is still English-only, sorry... --Akhristov (talk) 13:27, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Короче говоря, извини за то что я там на уквики понакручивал год назад. --Akhristov (talk) 13:34, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
Да я уже и забыл :) --Ahonc (talk) 13:36, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

My RfA

Thanks for supporting my RfA. --Túrelio (talk) 15:50, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Image:Tiberkul church.jpg

can you undelete this image please and put it through the proper channels? It was a self-made image, viz., my friend took the picture personally at the moment recorded in the metadata, and has asked me to upload his image as GFDL. I believe the image had clearly been tagged as such. I don't know what "source information" other than the camera metadata you can ask for for a self-made photograph. Dbachmann (talk) 08:39, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

If you are photograph, you must put source as "own work" or "self-made". And there was source "Philipp Roelli".--Ahonc (talk) 13:25, 30 June 2008 (UTC)


Hey Ahonc, you deleted this as having no license, but it was tagged with {{PD}}. I'm assuming the original EnWP upload (here) was PD-self - do you agree/disagree with this, and are you willing to undelete on that basis? —Giggy 12:59, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

(Note to me; asking because I saw this... just saying this so I don't forget! —Giggy 13:00, 30 June 2008 (UTC))
Tag PD is oboslete. It's consider as "no license". And also image had no source ("From English Wikipedia" is not source, because en-wiki has more than 790000 images and I can't check all of them).--Ahonc (talk) 13:07, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
OK, I'm fine with that. Thanks for replying. —Giggy 13:18, 30 June 2008 (UTC)