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Your picture Incense stick.JPG won the 3rd place in the Photo Challenge Smoke, in November 2014. You can find the results of the challenge here.

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Commons:Photo challenge/2014 - December - Bad weather/Voting[edit]

You have voted incorrectly. You made two 1/3 votes. Please just one of 1/3, 2/3 or 3/3. Can you fix it please. Thanks. -- Colin (talk) 21:17, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

✓ Done--AntonTalk 02:58, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Renaming against policy[edit]

Please note that this file renaming you agreed on was badly justified (no errors in the file name I had selected, obvious or otherwise) and is against policy: Even if you defend that the new filename is better than the old one, COM:Renaming disallows replacing with a better name, and only allows error correction. The renaming request having come from the photographer is irrelevant — indeed he allowed this photo to be named "4tg1q9r7sq5v1-Eq-sOObafXk" in Fotopedia… -- Tuválkin 06:42, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

Better he should have use critria 2. :) Jee 06:57, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
Jkadavoor, "4volboj4krucoj" is not meaningless — it’s exactly what the photo shows. -- Tuválkin 08:40, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
So it was in Esperanto? Then you're right. Commons in multilingual; we should not change filenames to a different language. But I don't think Anton did it intentionally/consciously. Jee 10:19, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
I didn’ think he did it intentionally/consciously, either. However he seems to be dead set to be brought to AN/U, instead of acknowledging the mistake and move on. Anyway, both you and AntanO, unpon not understanding the name, immediately assumed that I, as the uploader, had deliberately chosen a meaningless, random gobbledygook name (even having read in the o.p. that I found «no errors in the file name»), and didn’t even ask what was meant — that’s uncollegial and problematic in itself. -- Tuválkin 15:46, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
See your first comment here. You talked a lot about policies and guidelines; but din't give any clue that it was meaningful in Esperanto. We're humans; we prefer commonsense over mechanical rules which are more suitable for robots. All I see is some misunderstanding due to the over rule-based talks; nothing unfriendly. :) Jee 15:57, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
I don’t need to justify the filename I originally chose — on the contrary, it is AntanO who should assume my good faith and, upon asked by Mykola Swarnyk, decline the renaming, on policy grounds. Or he could have checked with me first — that would be “being human” as you put it, while blindly and acritically dispatching a rename request is tantamount to robot-like work.
It should be added that this filename (and many of the same whimsical style) was chosen while uploading to Commons several hundred photos from Fotopedia’s sinking ship, where they were hosted mostly without any kind of context or metadata. I also note that while Mykola Swarnyk, the photographer, seems keen on renaming my uploads of his work, the actually necessary work of adding geolocation and date (something only the author can do) is lagging behind…
-- Tuválkin 17:07, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
I don not see any policy issue here. How the old could be better name? (old name: 4volboj4krucoj New name: StNicholas Nizhyn) --AntonTalk 07:48, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
An “old” name, per COM:Renaming, is inherently better than any new one, for the reasons aduced there (stability, mostly). The “old” name needs to be wrong for a renaming to be granted. You violated policy — the best thing to do now about this is just to try better next time. -- Tuválkin 08:40, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
I think you have to read the policy again, especially Which files should not be renamed. Old file name, 4volboj4krucoj does not give any meaning, but new one does. --AntonTalk 10:05, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
You think I’m the one who needs to read the policy again? After you breached it? That’s so cute that maybe other people need to brought to the matter after all. Meanwhile, be so kind as to consider that the renaming you enabled goes against both #1 and #2 under Commons: File renaming § Which files should not be renamed? -- Tuválkin 15:46, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
You tried to accuse me again and again and attack Jeevan who assumes good faith. That's a friendly discussion and constructive too. I don't see 4volboj4krucoj as a constructive name and it is not my fault too. Just Google it and see the result. I rename it as per #2, Change from completely meaningless names into suitable names, according to what the image displays. If you are going to repeat the circular logic, I can't help you. --AntonTalk 17:02, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
The matter is now in AN/U. Please, though note the following:
  • Yes, I do acuse you of breaching § 1 and § 2 of the relevant policy.
  • I’m not attacking anyone, nor good faith is being doubted by me.
  • Discussion ceased to be friendly the moment you accuse the file name of my choice of being «meaningless».
  • Any “constructive” aspect of this discussion needs to be re-routed to Commons talk:File renaming, where you are free to suggest changes in the policy: «§ 11. File names may be changed whenever I feel like.» Good luck with that.
  • You renamed it under the original rationale, which was § 5 («Correct obvious errors in file names»); either way, neither § 2 nor § 5 fit the matter at hand.
  • I guess it is indeed circular if I warn you breached policy and you refuse to acknowledge; I’m not going to withdraw my assessment just because you don’t agree. However, I’ll refrain from adding to the discussion if no new substance is added.
-- Tuválkin 17:52, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
I said I can't help you. Discuss where you reported. --AntonTalk 18:03, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
Sorry guys for my intrusion in your friendly conversation, which, as it appears, I was the cause. Indeed, I was scrolling trough my uploads and proposed new names for the few files moved from Fotopedia. Yas, I felt like the name of the church picture was chosen just occasional, something like "abcd1efgh2", which now I see was not. And I feel I have to apologize to Tuválkin who rescued quite a number of good pictures from deletion. I did`nt know my renaming will cause this discussion. Actually, the file description is enough to identify the object, it doesn't have to be named in the file name. So, tell me now, do I have to correct names or better to leave them as they are? Mykola Swarnyk (talk) 04:47, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
Mykola, I have no qualms with your renaming request — but Anton is a file mover and should not grant requests against policy, that’s what caused my complaint. I’m not asking for the renaming to be undone, just for file movers to pay better attention to COM:Renaming. -- Tuválkin 05:51, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
I have to admit, dear Tuválkin, you did amazingly good job, uploading these picture in the last moments to Commons and identifying hundreds of objects and places. Thanks! Mykola Swarnyk (talk) 05:58, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
And I had fun, too! Face-smile.svg -- Tuválkin 06:01, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
@Mykola Swarnyk: It's not your fault, but Tuvalkin who wanted to show off a simple matter into headline news and trying logical evident to towards me. That's why he repeats his circular logic again here. I take care the matter. Have a nice day! --AntonTalk 06:29, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

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