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File:Wales1953-1959.gif[edit]

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File:Wales1807-1953.gif[edit]

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--Jutta234 (talk) 18:56, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

File:Royal Standard of the Kingdom of France.svg[edit]

I'm not quite sure about this one, you should ask the user to provide his sources for both versions. I'm not an expert on French flags I'm afraid. Sodacan (talk) 09:47, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

my reply[edit]

I've replied. plz go and see. --Oren neu dag (talk) 03:09, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Go to the Talk Page. --Oren neu dag (talk) 03:09, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Tip: Categorizing images[edit]

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Hello, Antemister!

Tip: Add categories to your images

Thanks a lot for contributing to the Wikimedia Commons! Here's a tip to make your uploads more useful: Why not add some categories to describe them? This will help more people to find and use them.

Here's how:

1) If you're using the UploadWizard, you can add categories to each file when you describe it. Just click "more options" for the file and add the categories which make sense:

Uploadwizard-categories.png

2) You can also pick the file from your list of uploads, edit the file description page, and manually add the category code at the end of the page.

[[Category:Category name]]

For example, if you are uploading a diagram showing the orbits of comets, you add the following code:

[[Category:Astronomical diagrams]]
[[Category:Comets]]

This will make the diagram show up in the categories "Astronomical diagrams" and "Comets".

When picking categories, try to choose a specific category ("Astronomical diagrams") over a generic one ("Illustrations"). Pro-tip: The CommonSense tool can help you find the best category for your image.

Thanks again for your uploads! More information about categorization can be found in Commons:Categories, and don't hesitate to leave a note on the help desk.

CategorizationBot (talk) 10:35, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Source[edit]

Hi. It does: «

 Source/Author
 Graphic created with MS Excel, using data from "Guerra Colonial", Diário de Notícias. Table data included inside. 

». -- Nuno Tavares PT 10:18, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

By the way, the "usage" from the file description suggests it's actually not that worthless after all.... -- Nuno Tavares PT 10:19, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Hi again, you're actually correct. However, while Escudo was a weak currency, it was quite usual to speak in terms of contos (thousand Escudo). There you go, a better explanation: File:Nt-DE das FA e Estado.png. -- Nuno Tavares PT 17:27, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

reply[edit]

Some of the original images I uploaded have been de facto superceded by superior images, your tag is the first time I had one tagged with a superceded tag. I was all ready to agree to have my inferior image deleted, and clicked on the consent button, only to learn that deleting superceded images has been discontinued.

I have no problem with my inferior image being replaced by the new superior image everywhere it is used.

If I have some time on my hands maybe I will take care of that myself.

Cheers! Geo Swan (talk) 14:25, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Re: Greek heraldry[edit]

Message tied up in Ribbon.jpg Hello, Antemister. You have new messages at Peeperman's talk page.
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Read Commons:Deletion policy#Duplicates[edit]

and I think that you will find that a {{delete}} process is required.  — billinghurst sDrewth 22:57, 24 November 2010 (UTC)


File source is not properly indicated: File:Rova 1903.gif[edit]

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Magog the Ogre (talk) 14:40, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

File:Afghanistan arms 1978-1980.svg[edit]

Hello. Yes, I was thinking after seeing that picture, but I painted it red because this and this.

The first image is a medal of Communist government, the Order of Saur Revolution. In internet there are other photos available of the same medal. Red background may be decorative, but also is the second picture, photo of a documentary on the subject and you see the COA in a government building. (May also have been placed to achieve contrast.)

If you think I or you can make two versions (one with background and one without background).

(Sorry for a possible mistake in the english message)...--Falerístico (talk) 20:12, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

I have several books in which the CoA is without the red background, but it is possible and likely that the red background was added only for the medals stuff like that, because of the better look. The best way is to upload two version, one without background under the original name, and one with background under the name File:Afghanistan arms 1978-1980 (red background).svg. Can you do this request, many articles display wrong CoAs, because I was not able to extract them from the flags.--Antemister (talk) 22:02, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
Well, I hope you make no mistake. There was a transparent background and got their red alternate version.--Falerístico (talk) 22:39, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Afghanistan CoAs[edit]

Hello.

  1. I'm working on it.
  2. File:Afghanistan arms 2002-2004.svg: this transitional CoA may be completely white; FOTW it is very confusing reports. For the current shield, I can make a version with those colors. But do not think it's the official colours. Governments have a nasty habit of "personalizing" the shields and Afghanistan does the same. On the presidential site is white shield. In my opinion, this (white) should be the official color.
  3. Do you believe it necessary? Not confirmed if flag was official. Especially considering that it is a mujahideen and they use highly customized flags.
  4. (Originally, I knew very little about SVG, but I'm learning. And I had thought of tracer, but let him aside for the inscriptions bearing the shield.) I saw your talk page on Wikipedia and is not sure the phrase means. There can be only the years (which no doubt have been misunderstood), it must have something extra. Also, look at this picture and the head of Taliban official site: without the shahada (maybe has to do with the flag at the beginning nor did the shahada, but it is an assumption). Conclusion: without the words that are in the middle, I can not draw.

--Falerístico (talk) 09:47, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Hello.
  • I will make the current shield in brown and painted the flag but do not go up yet because I want to adapt the mosque.
  • The Taliban CoA will take time. Yes, I saw the inscriptions in your page. With respect to the central inscription, wanted to point out that before the numbers seem to be a sentence الله أكبر (Allahu akbar, God is great). Could you confirm this?
  • Look: File:Afghanistan arms 1992-1996; 2001.svg. With gold is better than yellow.
--Falerístico (talk) 03:52, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
The Taliban CoA svg: File:Taliban CoA.svg. Naturally, may be have errors in the letters in the gear. The central inscription was made more consistent with the drawing, then I do not have the Western calendar year. --Falerístico (talk) 14:56, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Personal motivation[edit]

What motivates you to mark my files for deletion? Have they harmed or insulted you? Do you feel that you are helping Commons and that I am harming Commons by uploading these files? Is this part of a larger project of yours? Or did you just happen to stumble on my files? As far as I know, we have not interacted before. --LA2 (talk) 21:51, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

see deletion request: We do not store such official documents on commons, those should be uploaded on wikisource (if there are no copyright issues)--Antemister (talk) 11:03, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
The deletion issue has been discussed separately. It turned out there was no ground for this particular deletion, and the files were kept. What I was asking now is about you. What motivates you? --LA2 (talk) 14:42, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

1928 CoA of Afghanistan[edit]

I will consult with you because you are interested in the topic and write English better than me:

  • Do you have any real image of this CoA? The only image I know is of this banknote (site). As you can see, the image is different from the current version. I realized a SVG as an exact version of the banknote and upload if I had confirmation that the current version is a reconstruction and the correct version is banknote version. If you have pictures or you know someone who knows about this issue, please inform me to make a final version of the CoA.

--Falerístico (talk) 22:47, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

Really, I am able to give a precise answer to this difficult question: Some months ago, another german author of the Wikipedia sent me collection of postcard-like sheets of paper presenting the history of afghanistan flags. Those cards, created by the flag research center in 1986 were mainly the sources for my german article of the afghan flag. You are right, the current version is in fact a reconstruction based on a "wall carving on the royal palace at en:Darul Aman Palace". The CoA we have now is based of this sheets (can be seen also here: [1]) The graphic displayed on the banknotes will be the historically correct one, but it is surely not the only version used by the afghan government at that time.--Antemister (talk) 17:05, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
That was what I wanted, mainly because of the location of the star. Do you think I should upload the version of the banknote? Here you can see it in little PNG. Obviously, so I will modify the flag.--Falerístico (talk) 20:50, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
Of course you should upload it, but there is the question if you should replace the original file or upload it under a new name. Usually, wikipedia should base on secondary source, which are (here) books about flags, not contemporary banknotes, which are primary sources. I recommand to upload it first at the german wikipedia in higher resolution, I will discuss this issue with the flag experts there.--Antemister (talk) 10:08, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
Well, for I did not cause many problems I upload it directly here. If it is found that the Afghans used the FOTW version, can be reversed.--Falerístico 20:24, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

File:Deoband.jpg[edit]

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Quibik (talk) 11:17, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

KHAD emblem[edit]

Yes, I am Argentinian. The source of File:Emblem of the KHAD.svg, you can see in the talk page, three different photos of the same medal awarded by the KHAD. Additionally, a forum was also published another picture, but I can not linked because you need permision to access to her. On this other variant, I did not see a photo showing it, but considering that there are many Afghan medals were the emblem of 1980 and changed in on the 1987 (examples 1, 2), I felt that same thing could happen here. If you think West is because is based in the KBG emblem (the KBG helped found the Afghan intelligence service).--Falerístico (talk) 16:33, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

Oh, you should not "hide" your sources on the rarely-used talk pages on Commons. Unfortunately, it happen that hoax images are uploaded on Commons. The Khad logo seemed really strange for me: A european-style sword on a european-style shield becomes the emblem of the intelligence agency of the "fortress of the islam, the heart of asia"...--Antemister (talk) 20:05, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

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Renaming the Khad-Logos[edit]

"Of course, a file need not be a full description, but in the case of logos, flags, coat of arms, a precise and descrptive name make the use of such images much easier, especially for non-native speakers. I made dozens of such request, als of them were fulfilles with the reaseon of "correct description" and "series of files"--Antemister (talk) 21:11, 7 June 2011 (UTC)"

I see your rename request has again been declined by another person. The filename is not "incorrect", it may not be precise, but it is adequate. If other similar requests have been fulfilled, then I expect it was from an inexperienced file mover (can you point to examples?). The reason "series of files" is normally used for a finite set of files (for instance all the illustrations from one book given a series of filenames in a precise format). In my experience each new person who works on logos, coats or arms, flags etc, comes up with their own naming scheme, and wants to rename each file they work on to conform with their own standard. I can not find an agreed file naming standard for these files. There are a number of wikiprojects, eg Commons:WikiProject Heraldry and Commons:WikiProject Flags and and there is mention of file naming requirements there.
I am not quite sure why the filename is so important to you. People do not look through a long list of filenames hoping to get the right file, they look at the file descriptions. Generally people find files by using the search functions, these are not dependent just on the filename but use the descriptions and categories too. --Tony Wills (talk) 01:49, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
Best example is Historical flags of Afghanistan. All those flags here had names like "afghan flag 1974.svg" or "Flag of Afghanistan 1931.svg", meaning not completely wrong names, but less descriptive than "Flag of Afghanistan (1928–1929).svg", I did so with several other flags and coat of arms, not only Afghanistan, all of them were correctly fulfilled. I do not believe why this is not the case here...--Antemister (talk) 11:26, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

[edit] File:Coat of arms of the Congo Free State.svg[edit]

My own sources show the lions as reguardant or, but léopardisé proper is mentioned in the law. I shall correct this, with lions in their proper color. Adelbrecht (talk) 20:27, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

Emblem of the Khad[edit]

English (by Google Translate):

I do not understand why you keep asking the renaming of the icons of Afghanistan's intelligence service.

I do not know if the emblem was first adopted in 1980, maybe could be adopted later. Precisely why I put my name that I got.

Spanish:

Yo no entiendo por qué tú sigues pidiendo el renombrado de los emblemas del servicio de inteligencia del Afganistán Socialista.

Yo no sé si el primer emblema fue adoptado en 1980, a lo mejor pudo ser adoptado luego. Precisamente por eso yo le puse el nombre que yo le puse.

--Falerístico (talk) 22:07, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

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Saibo (Δ) 00:35, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Iraq flag images[edit]

In many cases the underlying flag designs fall under PD-Iraq, but it's not clear that the image files do, and your tagging would seem to obscure such distinctions... AnonMoos (talk) 18:33, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

I do not understand what the problem should be: The flags are a state symbol and/or are too simple for copyright protection. A vector file of a simple PD-work is not protected by copyright (The CCGFDLwhatever licensed simple three-color-flag with a crescent and star are en:copyfrauded) If you believe that one of the flags has enough originality so that is not covered by Template:PD-ineligible--Antemister (talk) 18:59, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
I agree with Antemister's analysis here. A simple image of a flag, based on a PD-description, is too simple to be eligible for a separate copyright claim. Quadell (talk) 13:35, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

Creation of templates[edit]

Hi Antemister,

when you create PD templates you should _not_ create multiple choice templates ala: this image is either PD because the author is dead long enough or because the author is unknown or because it is a governmental work. Each reason should have its separate template. Secondly I moved the template for a reason. I would appreciate if you would recognize that. Cheers --Cwbm (commons) (talk) 20:24, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

I disagree absolutely (at least as long I do not have reason for that policy). Is it better if there are three or more templates for every country? The list and the category (which are already full enough) will be flooded with several hundred templates, which are mostly used only two or three times. An example: I resently created Template:PD-Antigua and Barbuda, a very small country (but the template is needed if you want to have the coat of arms of the country uploaded here). Do you believe it is better if we have Template:PD-Antigua and Barbuda-Art, Template:PD-Antigua and Barbuda-anonymous and Template:PD-Antigua and Barbuda-Gov. If you want to upload a work from this country, you have to check three instead of one template (and, of course, a work can be PD because of more than one reason). Special Template may be OK for nation like the USA, with its numerous authorities and the large number of files tagged, but not for most of the countries of the world, where "several reason per template" is usual and expiedient--Antemister (talk) 21:30, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
Copyright expiration and copyright exemption or copyright 'expropriation' (dont know the term, but some countries have laws for special purposes) are very, very different things. A reuser must clearly see what case applies, is it pd because copyright expired or because copyright never existed? The simple consequence is to not put various, unrelated reasons into one template. --Martin H. (talk) 21:41, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
Hm. what is in fact the difference between PD because the author is dead for more than xx years, and PD because the work was never protected? PD is PD... And, if the File is licensed correctly, the reason why it is PD has to be explained in the description.--Antemister (talk) 10:07, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

The reason to have different templates is what Martin said and that it makes it easier and in some cases even possible to determine whether a file is legal. The point of these templates is provide that information otherwise you would not need them. That is why {{PD}} was deprecated years ago. --Cwbm (commons) (talk) 14:44, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

I have to disagree with your reasoning here. In my view, this approach would lead to the creation of many new templates, with little benefit to the community. I have brought the subject up at Commons:Village pump#PD-country templates: to split or not to split in the hopes of getting more community input. All the best, Quadell (talk) 15:39, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

File:Coat of Arms of South Sudan.svg[edit]

I'm really not sure that I understand the nature of your apparent obsessive zealotry in rigorously purging all "self" tags from such images. In many cases, (especially with the vectorized emblems or coats-of-arms), they're by no means simple mechanical copies of any previously-existing image (though of course ultimately derivative of some official or semi-official depiction). AnonMoos (talk) 23:45, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

The coat of arms where I change the license are mostly exact (vectorized) copys of pictures you find in flag books, government websites, or FOTW. If they they are vectorizations of some official or semi-official depictions, as you write, then, the vectorizer, who releaes them unter PD-self or some CC-license has no copyright on the the depictions he vectorized (they may be a copyvio, if the graphic the vectorizer used as his source, is protected). In cases, where the arms ist not a "mechanical copy", but an artwork created only by using the blazon, than a CC-license is OK (although I do not like it). For example, I did not remove the CC-licence of File:Coat of arms of the Congo Free State.svg, because the crown, lion etc. are not copied from File:Coat of arms of the Congo Free State 2.jpg but created by User:Sodacan. The issue with the simple flags I explained already above.--Antemister (talk) 09:57, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
Unfortunately, the concept of "exact vectorized copy" is quite problematic from both a legal and factual point of view, except in simplistic cases where there is an exact geometric specification of the emblem (which is conspicuously not the case with File:Coat of Arms of South Sudan.svg and similar), so you would seem to be creating the possibility for future difficulties more than you're "cleaning up"... AnonMoos (talk) 14:49, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
What is, in your opinion, the best licence for such coat of arms? (in case of the south sudanese arms, the copyright issue was discussed in advance with the vectorizer, and he uploaded the file tagged with Template:PD-Sudan--Antemister (talk) 14:58, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
The basic underlying design is PD-Sudan, but factually -- and probably legally as well -- significant creativity was involved in producing a vector file (which is not really a mere act of mechanical reproduction in the Bridgeman vs. Corel sense), and that effort also needs to be suitably licensed. There's nothing strange or novel about having two licenses covering different aspects of an image -- often in photographs of sculptures, the sculpture itself has one copyright status, but the photograph of the sculpture has separate (though derivative) copyright status, and the photograph itself must be properly licensed by the photographer in order for the photograph to legitimately be uploaded to Commons. There are other examples... AnonMoos (talk) 17:29, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
The case of sculptures is something different, because such a photo is a 2D "reproduction" of the 3D sculpture, here two licenses are be OK, but it has to be stated that the sculpture is PD-old, and the Photo ist PD. In case of the South Sudan emblem (you hav echosen a real bad example), I do not believe that "significant creativity was involved in producing a vector file", as the vectorizer was a chemist by profession who created a purely mechanical reproduction (which should be always done in case of vectorizing seals (not "real" coat of arms). Two different licences (CC and PD for the same file) is absolutely ridicolous. If the community believes that such reproductions can be protected, then a special templates should be created which declares for example "The (basic) image is PD-Ethiopia, but it vector rendition is CC-by" if you write {{Vectorarms|PD-Ethiopia|CC-by}}. In cases of File:Coat of arms of the Congo Free State.svg, this could make sense, in contrast to the South Sudan emblem.--Antemister (talk) 12:07, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
I really think it's not ridiculous -- the farther a design departs from a simple geometric specification, the more scope there is for many alternative decisions in making an SVG file. It's not at all like taking a photograph, where you point and click the shutter. Don't take this the wrong way, but have you ever built up a semi-complex SVG file by successive stages? In any case, I think you should be a little more thoughtful and a little less gung-ho in "unselfing" (as Cordwainer Smith might call it)... AnonMoos (talk) 23:32, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
I am not a graphist, and perhaps this is the this main issue in this this discussion: I know that creating a complex SVG is much work (the same like taking an "artistic" photo, which is more than pushing the button, if you care about position , light, the exact time, the background... thats why professional photographs exist), but the works here does not have any orginality. Anyway, we have to find a solution for the problem: I believe the case concernung the trivial flags need not be discussed, they are PD, and that is it. The problems are the (quite few) complex coat of arms or emblems. The todays situation (CC and PD or only CC) is not acceptable. Any reuser who does not know the background with PD-official text and blazon does not know what licence really applies, and this has to be solved. From my german copyright background, I believe PD-country and insignia/coat of arms is the best solution. If others believe that the vectorisation of those difficult arms are copyrighted (perhaps of orginality, perhaps UK and Canadian sweat of the brow regulations), a solution has to be found that explains "the basic image is OD, but the file here is CC". As this is very general discussion concerning thousends of files and not only some single cases, this question should be discussed on the village pump and not here, on user's talk page.--Antemister (talk) 21:05, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

Don't know what you're trying to say about general coat-of-arms copyright, but in European or European-derived heraldry it's indisputable that a user who assembles a new depiction of a coat of arms based on the textual Blazon owns the copyright to his or her new depiction (just as other artists own the copyrights to their own depictions), and any attempt to change this policy will almost certainly be unsuccessful... AnonMoos (talk) 00:04, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

In the case of those "European or European-derived" coat of arms created only (and not copying an official depiction) by using the blazon, I do not remove the CC-licence, because those images are cpyrightes and so this is a correct licencing (this is the case for most of User:Sodacans files). The problem are graphics like File:State emblem of Mongolia.svg. As the name already states, this is not an coat of arms, but rather an emblem. It cannot be vectorized correctly if you use only a description/blazon, you need a source image. Here (and only here), the copyright issue is disputable: You say: copyrighted, because much labor and skill was needed for the creation of it, I say no, because the vectorization lacks any orginality and creativity--Antemister (talk) 09:19, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
I was not actually offering a "sweat of the brow" argument; instead, I was only saying that complex manual vectorizations, while they have no originality, almost certainly can have creativity in the legal sense (which may not be the same as "creativity" in the fine arts isolated-starving-genius-in-garrett sense), so that there is a possibility that some of your actions could create problems down the road. However, it seems that it would be unproductive to try to discuss the matter further at the present time... AnonMoos (talk) 13:29, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

Template:PD-Denmark[edit]

I like the new template, but changing the text at PD-Denmark and deleting the /en and /mk destroys the multi-lingual nature of it. Please separately update the text at the /en and /mk pages. -Nard (Hablemonos)(Let's talk) 16:58, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

I know the problem with updating the translated templates, but I do not speak macedonien language. I asked the original translater if we wants to do that.

File:Coat of arms of Cameroon old.svg[edit]

What's the evidence that this was only used in 1960-1961? Both the Guide to the Flags of the World by Mauro Talocci, revised and updated by Whitney Smith, and the FOTW website imply otherwise. I would prefer to leave the filename as it is for the moment. AnonMoos (talk) 08:25, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

My reference for that change was my collection of german flagbooks, which do not show this variant after about 1965, the content of the german flagbooks from about 1960 to 2000 is collected on that excellent website: [2] But, you are also right, the two books from W. Smith I have show this version even after 1980. But I believe it is more logical that, after the unification the the french and the british colony in 1961, January 1st 1960, independance day of the french colony, was replaced by "federal republic"--Antemister (talk) 08:41, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
If the coats of arms used in the 1960-1984 period were identical except for changes of wording in the upper scroll (and the removal of one star after 1975), then I really don't know that there needs to be any rush to rename this file until other versions of the pre-1984 arms have been uploaded. By the way, your "exact vectorized file" justification for removing self-copyright tags is even feebler here than elsewhere, since while I was doing my best with the information available to me, and within the limits of my artistic abilities, File:Coat of arms of Cameroon old.svg has a number of deviations from any "exact" government of Cameroon specification (such as the scrolls being changed to horizontal, the shape of the map outline, the map outline not extending close to the top of the red area, etc.). AnonMoos (talk) 14:29, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

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PD-Iran[edit]

Hello, I delicned your speedy deletion request on PD-Iran. Autotranslation is an appropriate way to build templates, I see no reason to revert to the old way. If needed, you may ask for help to update versions in various languages at the different village pumps. Sincerely, Jean-Fred (talk) 23:01, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

Hello Antemister, I've reverted your edits to {{PD-Iran}} and {{PD-France}} because 1) for the PD-Iran the new wording is not correct, article 12 will also apply to works covered by article 16 in case article 16 was not applicable. 2) apparently changes have not been discussed in Commons.  ■ MMXX  talk 23:25, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

And here is it again, the problem with those tarnslation. They maybe nice (personally, I do not believe that they are really important), but in case you want be change them this becomes nearly impossible. I created and updated lots of those templates using a standard design, but I avoided to do so with translated ones. I believe that losing one or two translations is acceptable, but I still do not know what to do with those ones having more translation. Do you believe the revert of the french template improved it, as it declared itself as a construction site for years? There was no discussion about that template... What is not correct for Iran?--Antemister (talk) 20:11, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
Losing any correct translation is not acceptable! also what do you mean by the "standard design" ? if you mean the use of {{PD-Layout}}, please notice that those templates already use that layout. about PD-Iran, you had removed the link to other languages from main template, also your suggested wording is wrong, as I said above, that doesn't shows the correct relation between article 12 and 16. there are some archived discussions about PD-France too, see here and here, if you wish too make any changes to the existing templates, please discuss your suggestions in Commons:Village pump or in COM:VPC in case you want change the wording. thank you.  ■ MMXX  talk 23:00, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
You speak the persian language... Why did you not change the persian translation or correct my "mistake"? I created already dozens of that templates [3] will create one for every country, with the same structure, layout and a rather simple text understandable also for people who do not speak good english. Concering France, I will ask the guys there, but I do not see a problem with my edits. Why do we need a discussion for very single minor change?--Antemister (talk) 20:13, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
Please notice that you should not remove {{lang}} from the templates as you did here to {{PD-Iraq}}, instead you should remove translations which doesn't exist or is outdated from {{PD-Iraq/lang}} like this, please stop making inappropriate edits to templates as you did here or by tagging correct translations for speedy deletion as you did here, here, here and here. in the Commons, templates should be available in languages other than English too, for more information please see Commons:Localization, also you might find the description of Template:Autotranslate helpful. for example, the warning below, {{test}}, which as you can see is available in many languages is also localized using same method. also FYI, English and Persian versions of {{PD-Iran}} are correct and almost identical.  ■ MMXX  talk 23:41, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

Please experiment in the sandbox[edit]

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Dear Antemister, Wikimedia Commons is a multilingual project, please see Commons:Language policy and Commons:Localization. please refrain from making unconstructive edits, such as removing of different language versions of a template, as you did here, {{PD-Peru}} uses {{LangSwitch}} to provide both English and Spanish versions.  ■ MMXX  talk 22:12, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

A multilingual version of the template of Peru did not exist. There was PD-old-70 template integrated in this template.--Antemister (talk) 22:21, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
If you look more carefully, you will notice the following code: {{LangSwitch |en=English text... |es=Spanish text }}, please be more careful, thank you.  ■ MMXX  talk 22:37, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
Another problem! Please notice that licensing templates will categorize files into their respective categories, for example {{PD-Mauritius}} uses the following code: <includeonly>[[Category:PD-Mauritius|{{PAGENAME}}]]</includeonly>, please do not remove such categories, as you did here, here and here, thank you.  ■ MMXX  talk 23:10, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

Commons:Undeletion_requests/Current_requests#File:Idf_logo4.jpg[edit]

I found a solution for you for this image; there is an SVG version of the IDF emblem found on a flag. We can just use that instead of restoring the jpeg file. User:Zscout370 (Return fire) 00:37, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

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File:Roman Dacia 1.1.svg[edit]

Hi, I was trying to cleanup and makes sense of all versions of File:Roman Dacia.svg. I noticed that you uploaded File:Roman Dacia 1.1.svg in October 2010. Do we need this derivation or we can merge them to one map? Thanks and happy holidays. --Codrin.B (talk) 22:08, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

I only copied from the english WP, I did not create it, so I cannot answer your question.--Antemister (talk) 22:28, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion_requests/Template:PD-Germany[edit]

Hinweis: Commons:Deletion_requests/Template:PD-Germany (wurde von dir erstellt - wenn ich nicht falsch sehe). --Saibo (Δ) 23:02, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

Mitbekommen, sollte natürlich bleiben, wie alle anderen 50-100 von mir erstellten derartigen Vorlagen, verstehe den LA ohnehin nicht. Problem an der Vorlage ist eher die Schutzfrist von 50 Jahren für Lichtbilder die im Grunde nicht zutrifft.--Antemister (talk) 21:48, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
Bitte schreibe das doch in der Löschantragsdiskussion. Außerdem eben, wieso du denkst, dass sie bleiben soll. Geht auch auf Deutsch, wenn gewünscht. Dank dir! Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 23:13, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

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Graphics Lab[edit]

Hi! Just letting you know that the two Rhodesian flags have now (finally) been completed. Please let me know if they are as requested. NikNaks talk - gallery - wikipedia 16:44, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Afghan symbols[edit]

Your change of the licences at the file pages of the numerous afghan flags and emblems do not really solve the proble we've got now with the new copyright law. Of course, those files are created by non-afghan wiki-users, but their files are still deriavatives of the original graphics, which are now protected by copyright.--Antemister (talk) 11:40, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

Certainly. Their licensing of PD-Afghanistan was bogus from the start. All I claim is they are anything but PD due to the original conditions of PD-Afghanistan. They need to be handled like every other image. -- とある白い猫 ちぃ? 11:42, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
Hm, the images had been in the PD from their creation until 2008, the year the copyright law came into force, so at that time the licence was correct. Your edits now "hide" the problem of the copyright status, a problem we have with many images of flags where we do not know the status of copyright protection in their home country.--Antemister (talk) 11:50, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
I do not believe anything is hidden. Category:Historical flags of Afghanistan has all the files you seek. -- とある白い猫 ちぃ? 12:02, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
The problem is the fact that the CC-licences can only apply to the files the wiki-user has drawn, of course it does not apply to the original flag. The SVG files are all deriavatives of the original flags, which had been in the PD at the time the SVGs were drawn, so those files were, according to the uploaders, CC-licenced deriavatives of the original PD-flags. But now the original files are protected, so the CC-licence will be a copyvio.--Antemister (talk) 12:12, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
Not necessarily. The source could be treated as PD-Ineligible. I do not see it clear cut basically. COM:DEL is the avenue for them I wager not speedy. -- とある白い猫 ちぃ? 15:24, 4 March 2012 (UTC)


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とある白い猫 ちぃ? 15:03, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

File:Coat of arms of Tuva.svg[edit]

It is legally defined a set of national symbols colors - black is prohibited, Republic name has to be yellow (gold). See User_talk:MS05L#Tuva COA. Bogomolov.PL (talk) 18:59, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

OK, nor I nor MS05L speak russion, of course, we had to use the picture on the government's website. And even the government uses a version with black outline! It seems that they do not really care about the accuracy of the depictions of their national symbols, have a look about the numerous different color shades of flag or emblem. This old version you restored is hardly acceptable, as it is an autotraced SVG of a low-resolution image. In any case, I believe the de facto version is better in generally. I remember that there is a similar issue with the spanish one, as there are some minor differences between the heraldic description and the depiction usually displayed. We use the latter version.--Antemister (talk) 20:47, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
It was impossible to find from legal sources a COA picture reflecting legal color set. I'm sure this old version quality is poor, but it was prepared according legal color scheme. Is it possible correct your version to the legal colors? Or to replace the rider image? Bogomolov.PL (talk) 06:09, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
Well, of course it is possible to remove the black outline (I cannot do that - my abilities in SVGs are limited to color changes or deleting an object). But I do not believe that we improve with such an action: It looks worse and differs from the version used by the government. Usually, there there is that rule:
  • A coat of arms is correct if it is drawn according to the blazon (you do not need to follow the official depiction, although we prefer that)
  • An emblem is correct if it is exactly drawn after the official depiction
This is an emblem, not a coat of arms... Does the law explicitly mention the non-existence of black outlines?--Antemister (talk) 18:13, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
  • It is a legal description of the COA (with the colors of every element) and it is a legal description of the national colors - common for all national symbols, this colors can be used only. Black is not a national color, you see. Bogomolov.PL (talk) 22:08, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

Article 9. Description of the State Emblem of the Republic of Tyva 

National Emblem of the Republic of Tuva is a picture of a rider on a blue background in the Tuvan national dress, riding a horse toward the rays of the rising sun. At the base of the emblem on the traditional white ribbon "Kadak" label "Tuva". The rider, the horse, the sun and its rays, the inscription "Tyva" made gold (yellow) color. The image is contained in the five-petal form with alternating bands of gold on a path (yellow), white and gold (yellow) color. Schematic representation of the exact size and Emblem of the Republic of Tuva are given in the supplement N 1 (not granted). 

Article 10. The content of the elements of the State Emblem of the Republic of Tyva 

The outer contour of the State Emblem of the Republic of Tuva is a stylized image of the sign associated with the ideas of the Ancient peoples of the world's structure. Picture riding a horse rider in the Tuvan national dress reflects the traditional way of life and the main economic activity of people who for centuries lived in the territory of the Republic of Tyva. The inclusion of elements of the State Emblem of the Republic of Tuva images of the sun with radiating symbolizes the desire of people to high ideals, peace and prosperity. The meaning of the image strip "Kadak" is the reflection of the hospitality and friendliness of the people of the Republic of Tyva.

This is Google translation. Bogomolov.PL (talk) 22:16, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

  • I've reverted blue-gold-white version as this color scheme is official, you see. Bogomolov.PL (talk) 22:44, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Eh, sorry, I forgot that that isse was discussed yet. Well, have a look at National Insignia, and you will that practically any image there has black contours. No blazon mentions nor the existence of non-existence of contours nor their colors, but the drawers are allowed to use them, because that is part of the freedom a drawer of an emblem has. It is simply not possible to draw an adequate version of the rider without using contours - you see the result. It is just logical that even the government version [4] has that black contours.--Antemister (talk) 11:17, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

    • Do you see at this "government" version a golden text "ТЫВА"? This text must be golden as this is written in the law. So the "government" emblem is not a valid one, you see. Bogomolov.PL (talk) 12:16, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
Hm, if one has to chang eonly the colors, if the letters, there is no problems. The law does not describe of the rider should have contours or not, as it is usual for any heraldic description.--Antemister (talk) 12:21, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
  • National emblem must be colored with national colors only, this is emphasized in the law. Black is not a national color. So using black in the national emblem will be your private decision. Heraldic traditions are too far from Tuva as this nation is a buudhist one, that is why you can notice a lack of correct national emblem at the government site. Bogomolov.PL (talk) 12:56, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
The existence of (black, or maybe blue or yellow) contours is not against the rule that the emblem must be in the national colors only. Have a look at similar emblems, like the one of China, of course the emblem is only in the national colors, but it has contours. No description of an emblem (not only the blazon of european-style coat of arms) does mention if contours are required.--Antemister (talk) 20:28, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
  • Will you decide the need of the contour? But the law describes contours colors when these contours are in the national emblem description (on the edges of this emblem). Will be contoured the white band with word ТЫВА also? And you will decide again? But only the version colored with legal colors will not be an original research, I guess. We have no right to be the national embelem design "authors", I see. Bogomolov.PL (talk) 21:04, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

I wonder, why there is a discussion? The Website with the legal description, which Bogomolov posted, is showing a CoA WITH contours on the top. --Patrick (talk) 21:00, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

  • You may be will be surprized but this CoA violates colors legally descripted. This "CoA" does not respect the law, you see. There are NO CoA depictions respecting the law. Bogomolov.PL (talk) 22:21, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

File:Flag of the Soviet Union (1923).svg[edit]

Unfortunately, that flag is wrong. It would have used File:URSSblason1er.gif, not File:Coat of arms of the Soviet Union.svg which was adopted in 1956. Fry1989 eh? 23:17, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

I realized that fact later. Can someone with better abilities in vectorgraphics than me remove the unnecessary mottos?--Antemister (talk) 08:21, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
on the arms, File:USSR_COA_six_republics.svg not all slogans recorded properly‎.--Maks0771 (talk) 18:11, 14. Nov. 2012‎ (UTC)
What is wrong with that image?--Antemister (talk) 19:17, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

Re: Flag of Tuwa[edit]

Can you link the image? Thank, --Metrónomo (talk) 16:28, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

I want to know what images you are talking about. If File:Flag of the Tuvan People's Republic (1943-1944).svg, the font is Bookman Old Style. I extracted this information from the latest version. --Metrónomo (talk) 16:47, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
It is about File:Flag of the Tuvan People's Republic (1941-1943).svg and File:Flag of the Tuvan People's Republic (1943-1944).svg. The font you use in your simplified images is not correct.--Antemister (talk) 17:57, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
You're right, was my cache. Watch the source (worldstatesmen.org & rbvex.it), the font used originally (Bookman Old Style) is wrong. Now I used Serif, but if you believe there is any better I pray you use it or tell me so that I do. --Metrónomo (talk) 04:00, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

on the arms, USSR_COA_six_republics.svg not all slogans recorded properly‎

File:Emblem of the Israeli Ground Forces.svg[edit]

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Flag[edit]

Because "not being a people's flag" is not per se a cause of deletion. I removed it from their original categories and assigned it to a more generic category. It's up to wikipedia project not to use this flag. We as Commons don't judge whether it's a true or false flag: we simply check for its suitablity to be here. -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 13:31, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

it is a simple "fantasy flag". This category is full of fantasy flags. Projects may decide whether or not using them. Being a "false flag" is not per se a reason of deletion. It is a good reason for removing from the category where was allegedly included though. And what I did was removing from the category of "Flags of....". -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 17:30, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Tuvan Peoples' Republic[edit]

Emblem of the Tuvan People's Republic (1933-1939).svg

Can't render text on Tuvinian Peoples Revolutionary Party. What font or language is it? Manchu?

The variant of the Latin alphabet used there is Jaꞑalif (see w:en:Yañalif). Please note especially the letter Ꞑ (U+A790 latin capital letter n with descender). Compare with http://www.heraldicum.ru/russia/imagebig/tuva30s.gif -- Karl432 (talk) 18:30, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

TPRP[edit]

Can't do anything about the mongolian text. I tried my best

Flag of the Tuvinian Peoples Revolutionary Party.svg

Commons:Deletion requests/File:Flag of French Indochina.png[edit]

Könntest du bitte einen Nachweis, eine Quelle oder irgendeine nachvollziehbare Referenz angeben und dem DR hinzufügen? Das würde den Admins bestimmt sehr helfen. Danke. --McZusatz (talk) 22:50, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

Das ist einfach: [5] bzw. natürlich auch das Neubeckersche Flaggenbuch von 1926 und 1939.--Antemister (talk) 09:20, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
Wieso steht als Überschrift in der von dir verlinkten Seite "Annam (Indochina)"? Sind die Begriffe vielleicht nicht doch gleichbedeutend? --McZusatz (talk) 10:43, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
Nein, Annam war neben Tonkin, Cochinchina Laos und Kambodscha einer der fünf Landesteile der Indochinesisischen Union. Mir ist keine Quelle bekannt, die diese Flagge wirklich der Föderation zuordnen würde. Wäre auch völlig unlogisch, den nur Protektorate erhielten im frz. Kolonialsystem eine eigene Flagge, Kolonien oder koloniale Föderationen führten die Trikolore. Tonkin, Laos, Kambodscha und Annam waren Protektorate.--Antemister (talk) 10:54, 18 November 2012 (UTC)


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File:Grandes armas do Brasil.png[edit]

This file is wrong, the mantle his reusing of italian mantle with the "lacs d'amour" of the order of the Annunciade. And it's very bad quality files (png and not svg). Best regards. Mathieu C. (talk) 15:33, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

Sources for two Emblems/Coat of Arms[edit]

Hi Antemister! The sources for File:Coat of Arms of the Republic of Cochinchina.svg and File:Coat of arms of the Republic of South Vietnam.svg are listed in the File summary section. They are derivative works of File:Coat of Arms of South Vietnam (1963 - 1975).svg, and File:Coat of arms of North Vietnam.svg+File:Vietnam location map.svg. --Shibo77 09:01, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

Oh sorry I misunderstood! I don't know the original sources. I was doing a minor expansion of the Emblem of Vietnam on the Chinese Wikipedia, I copied the materials directly from the Vietnamese Wikipedia, specifically these four emblems: File:Coat of Arms of the Republic of Cochinchina.svg, File:Coat of Arms of South Vietnam (1955 - 1957).svg, w:zh:File:Quốc huy Đệ nhất Cộng hòa Việt Nam.png, File:Coat of arms of the Republic of South Vietnam.svg. I used Fair-use licenses at first, but an admin tagged the article as having too many Fair-use images, so I made copies on Wikimedia commons of three of the four. --Shibo77 13:44, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Can you further update the map File:Islam by country.svg and its alternative map File:Islam by country 01.svg (which does not show Kosovo)?[edit]

Hi

Can you update the maps File:Islam by country.svg by coloring the various countries according to the percentages of the local Muslim populations? Serbia, Azerbaijan and Sudan need to be corrected/updated. Can you also include East Timor (which is still shown as part of Indonesia)?

  • Serbia: Muslim 3.2% (because Kosovo is excluded in the survey, and already shown separately in the map) CIA World Factbook - Serbia Use the lightest green (Sunni) color bar range indicating the percentages between 0% and 5% (almost all Muslims in Serbia are Sunni).
  • Sudan: Muslim 97.2% (excluding South Sudan, which is already shown separately in the map) Use the darkest green (Sunni) color bar range indicating the percentages between 95% and100% (almost all Muslims in Sudan are Sunni).
  • East Timor: Muslim 1% East Timor Use the lightest green (Sunni) color bar range indicating the percentages between 0% and 5% (almost all Muslims in East Timor are Sunni).

Thank you

Can you also update the alternative map File:Islam by country 01.svg that is based on the aforementioned map Islam by country.svg, by doing the same changes but without touching Serbia (which includes Kosovo as part of Serbia), when taking United Nations recognition as a basis?

Maphobbyist (Talk) 02:02, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

Would you be willing to do these corrections? If not, can you recommend other users who know how to edit svg maps?
Thank you
Maphobbyist (Talk) 18:11, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
I did not correct that map, but uploaded only a duplicate version on that file name (as this version was used more often in in the varios languages), which was later deleted. I am not a graphist. Start a request at the Graphics Lab.--Antemister (talk) 21:23, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

File:South Sudan proposed coat of arms.JPG[edit]

Hello Antemister!

Sure, I can give it a try. Regards, Thommy (talk) 23:29, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/Fictional Papal Arms[edit]

Unfortunately for you, the comment which you recently added there was even more inept than usual, in both placement and content. I would really advise you to devote some degree of thought to such things in future if you have even minimal aspirations of playing an overall constructive role on Commons... AnonMoos (talk) 18:07, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/File:French Mandate of Levant.png[edit]

I might not have objected to the deletion of that file if you hadn't seemingly gone out of your way to antagonize me by doing something unproductive on that file's description page, and then refusing to take responsibility for it or admit that it was problematic. If it was a simple blunder, then admitting that it was it was a simple blunder would have cleared the air, and possibly prepared the way for future cooperation. Even the pope only claims to be infallible when he speaks ex cathedra. AnonMoos (talk) 15:30, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

I do not claim be be infallible. That was a clear case. Purely fictional emblems are private artwork and really misleading. One can upload such files on Flickr etc, but not on Commons.--Antemister (talk) 16:23, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

Do not restore quasi-vandalism on page File:AfricaItaliana.PNG[edit]

Is it your goal in life to specifically seek out ways to aggravate and annoy me? You're still unwilling to admit that you made a mistake in removing a necessary warning template on File:French Mandate of Levant.png (which complicated the discussion of the deletion of that image), and now you're restoring quasi-nonsense to another image under a deletion discussion which you started. You really do not have the art of "making friends and influencing people" -- in fact, you seem to have knack of rubbing people the wrong way and getting their bristles up... AnonMoos (talk) 02:54, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

File:RegnoMadagascar.jpg[edit]

I am not going to revert your file overwrite, but why are you nattering on about "original research"[sic] blah blah blah yadda yadda yadda when it's been brought to your attention on multiple occasions that Commons has no ban on original research? How many times do you have to be told this before it begins to take hold? AnonMoos (talk) 03:19, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Many WPs use that file, and because the editors there rely on the fact that file on Commons are factually correct, this spreads OR into the WPs. From dozens of DRs on fictinal symbols practically any file was deleted (well, sometimes it had been necessary to remove them from the various WPs), as long you did not find the DRs. It seems you are the only one here having that opinion on "NOR" or "NPOV" here on Commons. See that discussion on papal coat of arms.--Antemister (talk) 09:07, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
Of course Commons prefers factually correct files to incorrect files. However, THERE IS NO BAN HERE ON COMMONS THAT WOULD PROHIBIT CONDUCTING ORIGINAL RESEARCH IN ORDER TO ARRIVE AT A CORRECT FILE, and the more you run on and on about irrelevant "no original research"[sic] here, the more you aggravate and annoy other people without contributing anything very constructive towards deciding which files should be kept and which files shouldn't. You also appear to have the strange idea that "no original research" and "no webhosting of personal artistic portfolios without wider interest" are the same thing. Unfortunately, they aren't. AnonMoos (talk) 00:46, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

File tagging File:Flag of VNQDD.svg[edit]

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Commons:Deletion requests/File:Ethiopian flag with the Lion of Judah.svg[edit]

Didn't see that in time, but it was probably just a Rastafarian flag... AnonMoos (talk) 23:27, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

If you can povide a source, I'll start an UnDR.--Antemister (talk) 08:48, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
I don't remember what it looked like, but if you put "rastafarian flag" in Google image search, you can see for yourself that various semi-free-form variations on Ethiopian imperial symbols are used... AnonMoos (talk) 17:54, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

latest rash of deletion requests[edit]

You could have saved yourself and others work if you had just gone down the list of Namkhanh02's uploads... AnonMoos (talk) 15:59, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I and some others started a mass DR on that uploads, most of them are already deleted. The larger part of his files turned out to be copyvios (photos) or purely fictional (flags). If you find a source for them, we can keep. E. g., I found a source for File:Nguyen Imperial Pennon (m4).gif, [8], this can be kept.--Antemister (talk) 19:25, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
If you had just gone down the list of Namkhanh02's uploads, then you could have easily seen that some of the flags which you claimed did not exist were shown in photographs of meetings, on historical banknotes etc. AnonMoos (talk) 01:53, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

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Re:Coat of arms of The Khmer Republic[edit]

Thank you - that doesn't look so complex, maybe I'll put it on my working list in the future. :) --Ericmetro (talk) 11:49, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

Karten zum Zweiten Weltkrieg[edit]

Hallo, ich habe deine Fragen gelesen. Es gibt viele Quellen die ich verwende, Alle sind originale Karte aus dem Zweiten Weltkriege. Leider darf ich nicht sie hochladen wegen die Urheberrecht! Aber es gibt auch viele WW2 Karte die ich verwende bei dieser Website : Mapywig. Es gibt keine SVGs meinen Karten, aber gegenwärtig digitalisiere ich die Verwaltungsgrenzen der "Karte des Deutschen Reiches 1:100k" im Jahr 1944. Dieses Projekt dauert ja lange Zeit! Aber ich habe schon die Reichsgrenze digitalisiert. XrysD (talk) 19:33, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

More odd flags[edit]

It seems that the micronations section is full of false flags, or made-up flags for real micronations as this one: [9]. I went around today and removed that from the wiki project pages. It is an entirely made-up flag; there's no historical indication that Lambert ever made a flag or considered himself for the year and a half he lived on the island a "real nation." I am not yet expert on all the ins and outs of photos for deletions, so what I did instead was isolate this picture so as not to end up in books or school reports "because it is in Wikipedia." Best wishes, looking forward to learning the deletion process better with each passing day! Ellin Beltz (talk) 15:22, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

I know, I know. There are hundreds of such flags here. I start DRs from time to time. Some are deleted later, many not ("no consensus to delete", although anyone knoes that the flag was an hoax image). Do you want to support me?--Antemister (talk) 18:45, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
Of course I'll be happy to back you up on the deletion request/s for nonexistent countries and imaginary flags! Ellin Beltz (talk) 19:28, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
Just have a look onto my contributions from time to time. I do not do that on a regular base, just if a find a cat containing some of them, I start DRs.--Antemister (talk) 20:44, 17 October 2013 (UTC)


Swenden[edit]

Hello excuse me disturb you, I see you work in svg, could you please do me a favor.

Could you please make these two coat of arms.

100px

http://www.leifericsson.se/kategori/publicerat/

I have a basic Princesse Lilian de Suède.svg

Here the central crest and shield replacement bottom left


Bernadotte coa.svg central coat of arms

Madeleine of Sweden : Hälsingland vapen.svgGästrikland vapen.svg

Estelle of Sweden Östergötland vapen.svg


THANK YOU IN ADVANCE FOR YOUR HELP YOU A GOOD DAY--Dunkerqueenflandre (talk) 09:53, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, wrong user here. My abilities in SVG are limited to the change of colors.--Antemister (talk) 10:06, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
ok thank you good day--Dunkerqueenflandre (talk) 10:12, 1 November 2013 (UTC)


South Vietnam Flags/Emblems[edit]

I've finished the first two - visible here and here. For the flag, I noticed quite a few places had different depictions. E.g. the book you sent me (thanks again for it, it's really interesting) has the writing/eagle looking different to the writing/eagle seen on the version you sent me, so in the end I kind of blended the two together. MrPenguin20 (talk) 02:37, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

Antemister = Dick Head on a Mission[edit]

Dear Antemister,

I have noticed that you have nominated a bunch of images which are of my confection to be errazed, you are either an idiot or a Dick Head on a Mission.

I honestly don't give a dam if you dingly do or dingly don't.

Go and have a life, and don't be a Dick Head.

I detest stupid people, Rui Gabirro

gabirro@gmail.com

Do you have sources for the images?--Antemister (talk) 21:08, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

File:Dr HF Verwoerd.jpg[edit]

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Yours sincerely, LGA talkedits 07:35, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

GlobalReplace v0.3[edit]

Hi Antemister, hope you're well. I ended up rewriting GlobalReplace (this will be v0.3) from scratch, but I think it works better than ever! I know you've been asking about it lately, so I thought I'd share my most recent build with you: [10] (this is only a draft version, so it's possible that there are bugs; if you find any, please let me know so I can fix them!). Best, FASTILY 11:40, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

PS, the program should run when you double click its icon. If you're using Windows, you may need a batch file (the same one in the GRv0.2 package will work for this) -FASTILY 11:43, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
OK, will try it!--Antemister (talk) 14:54, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

PNG deletion - not when source for SVG[edit]

You have flagged some png files for deletion, as there now are svg versions. As long as the png:s have been used as source they cannot be deleted. Deletions would make the history very hard to trace for non-admins and is probably legally problematic (at least the original source and the authors must be cited if the chain is broken). Could you please withdraw the deletion requests. --LPfi (talk) 15:06, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

A file simply uploaded to Commons is not a source at all. Such images are always taken from flag books or FOTW, you always have to mention those sources. And flags usually in the PD (and, if not, we cannot upload any version here).--Antemister (talk) 11:43, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
The fact is that the source is given as this now deleted file. A person trying to figure out from where the svg image is has to ask an administrator for the source information on the description page of the deleted file, then, getting the answer no source was given, has to ask for the user name of the uploader, maybe upload date etc. A lot of work just because the png was "unnecessary".
The svg is also illegal now, as it does not mention the original author (if authors differ, as they probably do, which I cannot check anymore). Until we have an svg with an acceptable source, the png is necessary.
--LPfi (talk) 10:39, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
That means in fact that I have mention the real source of the SVG - that is, in fact, mostly FOTW. I often ignore(d) that, as it is (unfortunately) a rather common practice here not to mention the real source. I'll try to get used to add such a source before starting a DR in future cases.--Antemister (talk) 20:24, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

Re: Coat of arms of Newfoundland & Labrador[edit]

Hello, Antemister: Thank you for your proposal, but I'm not good enough in design to make a good representation of that coat of arms. Best regards, --Echando una mano (talk) 15:35, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

April 2014[edit]

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File:Flag of the Amhara Region.svg[edit]

Hallo - ich habe den roten Farbton exakt aus den Flaggen auf den Regierungsseiten genommen. Die Quellen habe ich angegeben. Was ist falsch daran? Aus welcher Quelle hast du den Farbton entnommen? --Maxxl2 - talk 19:37, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

Ich habe alle dieser äthiopischen Regionsflaggen an die von File:Flag of Ethiopia.svg. Keine Ahnung, ob die exakt definiert sind. So lange es so ist sollten die Flaggen eines Landes imho möglichst einheitlich sein. Ich wollte zwar auch zunächst diese Webseite verwenden, habs aber dann doch gelassen...--Antemister (talk) 19:52, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
Entschuldige - aber wenn du keine Quelle hast, wieso änderst du dann den Farbton und blähst die Datei wieder auf? --Maxxl2 - talk 20:47, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
Nun ja, ich hätte jetzt diese Webseite nehmen können, und den Farbton von dort auf alle äthiopischen anwenden können - aber das hätte ich gegen den notorischen Fry1989 verteidigen müssen. Bei solchen Drittweltstaaten gibt es kein Corporate Design, welches einen genau definierten Farbton vorschreibt (jetzt ist hier soagr das Flaggengesetz online - kein Farbcode). Da sucht man was raus was einigermaßen passt, unterscheidliche Webseiten zeigen da verschiedene Farbnuancen. Meistens hat die Nationalflagge die Farben auf die man sich einigen konnte. Eine gute Lösung ist das nicht - aber wie sollte man es besser machen?--Antemister (talk) 21:50, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
Besser ist es, die in der Dateibeschreibung genannten offiziellen Quellen zu nutzen. Aus den dortigen Abbildungen der Fahnen - leider haben wir keine detaillierten Konstruktions- und Farbdetails - kann man dann die Formate, Gestaltungselemente und Farbtöne entnehmen. Kommt zukünftig jemand mit besseren Quellen, kann man die Werte nach Diskussion und Konsens ändern. Bis auf weiteres gibt es nichts Verlässlicheres als eine Regierungs- und eine Botschaftswebsite. --Maxxl2 - talk 22:03, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

flags[edit]

Thanks for the encouraging comments about the problems of fictional flags here. I was really discouraged that no one noticed this problem. now, it may not go away, but i know at least a few other editors understand "out of scope" in this context.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 06:59, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

This issue will of course continue. I'll wait for about two weeks for further comments, then add that issue for discussion at the deletion policy. You'll be informed then.--Antemister (talk) 09:54, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

Flags, COA, and copyright[edit]

Good day, I saw an RFC and some discussion about flags. Although somewhat unrelated, I was wondering if you could have a look at a draft essay pertaining to Canadian Crown Copyright (which has an impact on official COA and flags), and tell me what you think, or any suggestions you may have. In the interests of full disclosure, I've already attempted and failed to have copyright recognised for an official flag at Commons:Deletion requests/File:Flag of the Royal Military College of Canada.svg, so to be clear, this isn't about seeking disruption, but about informed discussion and advice on Crown copyright more generally. trackratte (talk) 00:48, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

Well, I am a German an that means I am not really informed about the copyright situation outside Germany, especially not concerning Common Law countries. In Germany the situation is that CoAs, seals, emblems, logos are not protected by copyright, but only by trademark laws. But in (some) Common law Countries, the situation ist different... Sorry, I am not able do contribute to that discussion, as I do not know the legal issues here.--Antemister (talk) 20:16, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

File:Coat of arms of Ethiopia.svg[edit]

If you're going to do much uploading of that type in future, then you really should learn how to do minimal color changes without creating inconsistent color specifications, blowing up the SVG file's size, etc., because the file version that you uploaded was unfortunately a mess internally (not to mention that you changed the color of the stars, but didn't change the color of the rays to match)... AnonMoos (talk) 11:28, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

Illustration workshop request[edit]

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File:Bandera Oblast Brest.png[edit]

Hallo, in der DR Commons:Deletion requests/File:Bandera Oblast Brest.png schreibst Du das die Datei durch svg ersetzt wurde. Dem ist nicht so! Es werden hier so schon genug Bilder gelöscht. Da muss sowas nicht sein. Tach --Knochen ﱢﻝﱢ‎  18:19, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

Habe sie erst mit GlobalReplace ersetzt und dann noch Vorlagen manuell. Ist was nicht dabei gewesen? Manchmal tauchen dort verschobene oder gelöschte der Seiten auf. Eig. sollte der ADmin dann noch den CommonsDelinker darauf ansetzen.--Antemister (talk) 18:58, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
Hallo, da fehlte noch eine Ersetzung in Vorlage:Infobox Ort in Weißrussland (diff). Das Problem ist, wenn die Datei gelöscht wird bevor die Ersetzung (selbst oder durch Bot) vorgenommen wurde, werden Bots unter Umständen Artikel und Vorlagen von der Datei entlinkt haben bevor die Ersetzung durchgeführt wurde. Gruß --Knochen ﱢﻝﱢ‎  19:38, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
Aha, das ist dort doppelt drin! Siehe den vorausgehenden Edit.--Antemister (talk) 21:01, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

Re:Sources[edit]

Hi Antemister, the maps I uploaded today are some of my work finished a few months ago, although I have the source image on my computer, the source link are failed to be found. However I find my second one is based on the second page of 新政権の経済的建設. (昭和13, PD). I've added this link to the file description page. The Manchukuo maps are based on a scanned Chinese 1940s map (which is PD-China). Unfortunately I can't find the image on Internet by now, but you may have the divisions seen from [11] (1940 divisions, a few provinces added). I can also send you my source for your further concern. --Ericmetro (talk) 14:35, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for the information and I've been looking for Mengjiang state symbols for a time. Unfortunately, I think the seal is more likely to be a police related authorities seal. I've seen the similar design on Manchukuo documents, which has text in the center and surrounding wheats (usually sorghum, the national flower of Manchukuo). The text on the seal from the two images is hardly recognizable. --Ericmetro (talk) 12:14, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
I think this seems to be a decoration pattern only, as this symbol only appeared on coins and I didn't see this symbol on other sources. In fact I even doubt whether Mengjiang state had a emblem. --Ericmetro (talk) 11:59, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
Hi Antemister, sorry for this belated reply. I failed to notice your message in December until I review my talk page today. For your information, Mengjiang Xinbao translated to English is "The New Newspaper of Mengjiang" and Mengjiang Xinwenshe is "The News Agency of Mengjiang". Many valuable Mengjiang document are stored in Japanese archives, based on my previous experience. Regards --Ericmetro (talk) 05:16, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
I think the twelve symbols national emblem still need to be worked on. Some of the colours is not historical correct and not accordance with traditional Chinese colour usage. The only coloured photo I found is a 1946 one ([12]) and you may find some differences. Unfortunately my real life is a bit busy in the past months, hope I could help with that file in the future. --Ericmetro (talk) 14:57, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

Correction Request: The Armenian Apostolic Church is erroneously colored as being part of the Eastern Orthodox Church, but it is a separate Christian denomination.[edit]

Hello.

The Armenian Apostolic Church is erroneously colored (in red) as being part of the Eastern Orthodox Church in the map File:Europe religion map.png and in all in its different language versions File:Europe religion map-ar.png, File:Europe religion map de.png, File:Europe religion map en.png, File:Europe religion map fr.png etc., which is incorrect because it is a separate Christian denomination. Could you color Armenia and the breakaway Nagorno-Karabakh region of Azerbaijan in a different color in all these maps?

Thank you.

-- IP User 31.200.10.222 (talk) 18:09, 27 December 2014‎ (UTC)

No, I cannot do that - I am not a graphist. That is the second request concerning that map here, but, well, the only edit I did with it was a simple revert. The Graphics Lab might do this.--Antemister (talk) 18:12, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
Thank you for your advice. -- IP User 31.200.10.222 (talk) 18:15, 27 December 2014‎ (UTC)

Illustration workshop request (2)[edit]

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Drapeau de l'Armée Nationale Vietnamienne[edit]

Hi
I need your feedback on your request to be able to continue, thanks. --Goran tek-en (talk) 15:52, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

Re: Imperial chinese Flags[edit]

Many thanks to notify me about this ongoing request. I have several sources of the Qing Dynasty flag from archives, which I will take a look and upload somewhere later. Generally speaking, there seemed to be no specific graphic regulations at that time, that I noticed many variations on these flags. There's one pity on the current version of the dragon on the 1862 flag lacks scales on its body, which is an prominent feature when drawing Chinese dragons.

The source of the current 1889 version is: Flags of maritime nations, US Navy Dept, Flags of maritime nations. Printed by authority : United States. Navy Dept. Bureau of Equipment 1899 - Internet Archive. --Ericmetro (talk) 16:06, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Re: Location map of the German Reich[edit]

Hello !

The error with my maps of the German Reich is the projection, which is conical and not equirectangular (as most of the workshop). I'm not sure to delete them, but I could rename them to something like "German Empire blank map.svg" or similar, to leave the space of names free for your new maps, what do you think?

--Shadowxfox (talk) 21:21, 16 June 2015 (UTC)