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Cisticola galactotes[edit]

Je viens de passer sur la page VI et de rectifier mon vote pour la salamandre, vote que j'avais mal placé. En me penchant ensuite sur les autres nominations, j'ai constaté que le lien du scope de Cisticola galactotes ne pointe pas directement sur la bonne catégorie. Est-ce capital ? Je n'ai pas osé rectifier de moi-même : à toi de voir. -- Suite à tes conseils du 15 juin, j'ai commencé à résoudre quelques problèmes (saturation notamment) et me suis penché sur le focus staking qui devrait me permettre de surmonter quelques difficultés... si j'arrive à le maîtriser (!) -- Bien cordialement. -- JLPC (talk) 09:12, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Merci pour cette alerte. Les scopes peuvent pointer sur les "category" ou mieux sur les "gallery". Seul détail je n'avais pas fini de la programmer, c'est corrigé. Pour le focus staking je suis à ta disposition si tu as des questions, n'hésite pas. --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 09:22, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

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Réponse[edit]

Sur ma page de discussion. Bourgeois.A (talk) 19:30, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

Crocosmia 'Lucifer'?[edit]

Do you notice the discussion at Commons:Quality_images_candidates#File:Crocosmia_lucifer_FR_2012.jpg regarding the correct binomial name? It is a cultvar; so probably Crocosmia 'Lucifer' but is sp.name is not required? Further I saw somewhere Crocosmia x Curtonus 'Lucifer' as a cross. Any advice? Regards, Jee Jkadavoor (talk) 04:39, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

  • I answered on the page IQ. We have a problem with- Aza toth; requires that it mobilizes the community to teach him the rules of courtesy.--Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 05:42, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
    • I don't want to interfere but thanks to you both for your help. Even if AzaToth knows a lot about photography technicalities, even if some of his reviews are right (concerning my photos), the greater part of his remarks is often difficult to understand and he's always absolutely discourteous for every contributor. The problem is that it's difficult to tell him without being... discouteous. Anyway, per Archeodontosaurus : we have to mobilize. -- Best regards. -- JLPC (talk) 08:38, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
    • Thanks. AzaToth is a good reviewer; but we can't expect that much quality for QI. -- Jkadavoor (talk) 07:59, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

C'est l'été !![edit]

Tu ne pensais pas sérieusement que tu allais échapper au grand ménage de fin de trimestre ? Si ? Raté...--Jebulon (talk) 12:25, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

Merci J'y ai pensé une ou deux fois mais je n'ai pas osé te solliciter. Comme tu l'as peut être remarqué nous avons un contributeur : Aza Tot,h fin critique et discourtois. Il faut faire front. Au travail...--Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 12:57, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
C'est la "comète noire", comme je l'ai dit à JLPC... Son orbite quittera la nôtre pour un temps, bientôt. Mais il reviendra. Il est déjà venu, je m'étais fâché en FPC à l'époque. Tu le sais bien: ne pas s'affoler, faire front, contrer patiemment, et ne pas se laisser marcher sur les pieds. C'est toi qui m'a appris. Tu auras peut être remarqué qu'aujourd'hui, je lui en ai mis une couche à une ou deux reprises, notamment, je crois bien, sur une de tes images...
Toutefois, il faut faire attention à ne pas se laisser piéger, et soutenir une photo parce qu'elle a été "sacquée" par l'AzaToth. D'où mon désaccord avec toi sur une image de notre ami charentais...
Tiens, à propos de FPC, il y a là-bas un schéma d'oreille qui mérite de se faire commenter par un vrai spécialiste. Elle ne passera pas, mais j'aimerais bien savoir ce que tu en penses. Si tu as deux minutes...
Amitiés, --Jebulon (talk) 16:59, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
La réaction de la commuté a été saine et rapide, notre système immunitaire marche. Pour la photo de notre ami charentais, le vote était "politique" tu as bien voté et notre ami s’honore d'avoir retiré son image. La semaine commence bien. Pour l'oreille en FP, je ne sais pas ce qu'elle faisait là mais j'ai donné au passage un conseil...--Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 06:11, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
J'ai parfois des difficultés à distinguer les "votes politiques" des autres, ceux-là me semblant, quotidiennement, aussi nombreux que ceux-ci... Mais en l'occurrence j'avais bien compris (un peu tard cependant) que ma photo était contestable. -- Pour ce qui concerne l'appréciation de Jebulon, aucun problème non plus : je préfère un refus franc et justifié à ces "enough for QI" qui, à mon avis, ne font que dévaluer la catégorie. Mais ce phénomène est dû au fait que les critères "flottent", avec, entre leurs contours imprécis, de grands espaces où peuvent s'engouffrer les opportunistes, les critiques d'humeur et les internet thugs si je puis me permettre ce néologisme. Mais comment faire autrement ? Suivre la solution des sages en ne proposant des images qu'en VI ? Certes... Pour l'heure, je vais me livrer à quelques suppressions concernant mes photos et vous promettre, à tous les deux, de me montrer, à l'avenir, plus vigilant sur leur qualité : Charentais, oui ; Rastignac, non ! Trop tard. -- Très cordialement. JLPC (talk) 13:36, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
Tu as assisté à une bataille, il y en aura d'autres; il y en a eu de bien plus sévères dans le passé. L'important c'est de garder la cohérence du système. As-tu progressé dans le Focus staking? Tes fleurs y gagneraient en netteté. Je reste à ta disposition si tu veux apprendre cette voie...--Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 14:25, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

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Passe d'armes[edit]

Merci de ton message de soutien.
C'est incroyable ce que ce type est haineux, j'ai rarement vu ça, il n'a que l'agression et la menace à la bouche, mes remarques (techniques) étaient pourtant tout ce qu'il y a de plus "soft" et calmes, je n'avais d'ailleurs même pas fait attention à l'auteur des images, sinon je me serais gardé d'intervenir ainsi...
Si j'en crois l'historique, c'est cmadler qui a retiré les images, bizarre. Si ça se trouve, il l'a fait sur demande privée de l'agité, qui sinon n'aurait pas manqué de réagir. Et franchement je m'en fous...
Je suis plus préoccupé par mon chef d'orchestre (magnifique, et, comme tu l'auras compris, dans un cadre vraiment unique, tu aurais adoré ce concert !!!), la remarque de Yann est peut-être fondée (pas d'un point de vue policier: les photos de profil font partie des collections ;)), je vais donc devoir reprendre mes fichiers et voir ce que j'ai qui pourrait mieux convenir. j'ai en tous cas pu créer un article sur WP (essentiellement par traduction, mais je ne suis pas peu fier !) et l'illustrer dans la foulée, je suis content.
Je viens de m'acheter un 18-250 de chez Sigma (pas le dernier, pas encore sorti), mon 17-70 était vraiment limité: impossible d'accrocher les statues des façades du Louvre au delà du 1er étage !!!
Je fais une petite pause en propositions de QI en ce moment, l'air y est irrespirable, il convient de se concentrer sur les jugements.
Amitiés, --Jebulon (talk) 08:53, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

File:Odontoptera carrenoi MHNT global.jpg[edit]

I'm sure your contributions are much valued, but the clutter of categories for this image is absurd, especially considering that some of them are absolutely trivial. Incidentally, when you reverted my edit you also deleted the category Fulgoridae which is a lot more relevant than categories like "Images with a white background". Must I consider your edit as vandalism? Paul venter (talk) 09:02, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

I'm happy with your answer and I find your arguments make sense. I remove the trivial categories. But as you see there are not many. Your action has been exaggerated --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 09:28, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
I find your English difficult to understand.....Paul venter (talk) 19:56, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
I am sincerely sorry, because I speak English with difficulty. The category of the family is included in the category of gender and the gender in that of the species. So that in the category of the family it should normally be no image, except unidentified. (Je suis sincèrement désolé, car je m'exprime anglais qu'avec difficulté. La catégorie de la famille est incluse dans la catégorie du genre et celle du genre dans celle de l'espèce. De sorte que dans la catégorie de la famille il ne doit, normalement, n'y avoir aucune image, sauf les non identifiées.) --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 20:06, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
Oh, the duplication part is common sense - it is the 'Your action has been exaggerated' which is obscure. The language gulf is deeper than one might think...Paul venter (talk) 06:33, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Hébé, y'en a à qui la politesse la plus élémentaire échappe totalement... Totodu74 (talk) 21:11, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

C'est le moins qu'on puisse dire...D'où il sort, celui-là ?--Jebulon (talk) 07:40, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
C'est le côté curieux de l'affaire, tu es tranquille dans ton coin, et brusquement arrive un fada qui donne un grand coup de pied dans la fourmilière. Il y aurait une étude a faire... :) --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 08:46, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
Et après l'étude, une photo ! Dans un musée, avec une épingle dans le dos ! Comme pour tout bon mounted specimen qui se respecte !--Jebulon (talk) 15:36, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
J'ai posé une question à Aza Toth sur sa page je vous engage à y aller pour une réponse édifiante... --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 17:12, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
J'en viens et j'ai vu que finalement, tu le trouvais sympathique... J'ai fait quelques commentaires pour ma part sur la page de discussion des QI....--Jebulon (talk) 21:20, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

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Voltaire[edit]

J'aime bien la citation sur ta page d'utilisateur, mais elle mérite une nuance, puisqu'ici on parle photo: certains veulent tellement être "éclairés" qu'ils risquent d'être un chouïa surexposés, et d'autres encourent carrément l'overdose d'UV, au risque d'un beau cancer de la peau. On en croise jusque dans ces pages...

Amitiés --Jebulon (talk) 14:22, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
J’ai été contacté par la « Maison de la Philosophie » pour une conférence sur le Projet Phoebus que je ferais en Janvier. Cette phrase est leur devise, je l’ai trouvé très juste et l’ai adopté. Pour le sujet qui nous occupe il serait juste de demander pour nos concours un minimum de contributions « photographiques» de sort que Mr Aza Toth ne nous aurait pas pollué le débat. Mon niveau d’anglais ne me permet pas de proposer cette solution de bon sens. --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 16:14, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
Bon, en tous cas, moi, j'aime bien Voltaire. je l'ai d'ailleurs pris en photo le 14 juillet sur la façade de l'Hôtel de Ville de Paris, il faut que je mette ça sur "Commons". Pour ton idée, on te rétorquera que ce n'est pas une bonne idée, évidemment. Alors que C'EST une bonne idée. As-tu lu ce que j'ai écrit, et le débat en cours, sur la page de discussion des Images de Qualité ? Intéressant.--Jebulon (talk) 16:35, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Papillon[edit]

Encore moi. Tu as un papillon proposé par Citron en FP, mais son aile est malencontreusement coupée, c'est très visible. Je vais m'opposer pour ne pas que ça soit promu trop vite, et que tu aies le temps de réparer.--Jebulon (talk) 15:10, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Merci je ne l'avais pas vue, le temps de rentrer et je corrige. Saffron Blaze est revenu c'est inespéré. Tu vois qu'il y a matière à ce réjouir. --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 16:22, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
Oui, je lui ai mis un mot de re-bienvenue.--Jebulon (talk) 16:37, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
C'est réparé, çà roulait bien ce soir, tout les toulousains sont en vacances. Ils ont du migrer vers le Nord car on y tiens plus; il y a trop de soleil ici. Et vous à Paris çà va? --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 17:50, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

La clef des champs[edit]

Je ne réponds que ce soir à ton invite du 14, ayant restitué la clef à son propriétaire pendant le week-end... Mais je la reprendrai en mains (et en photo) la semaine prochaine. Je pourrai alors effectuer les trois prises de vue que tu me demandes. Une seule question : ce sont bien trois photos avec une mise au point sur trois plans successifs dont tu parles ? -- Jeté un œil à la page de celui-dont-on-ne-doit-pas-prononcer-le-nom... Tu lui as posé la question qui me brûlait les lèvres depuis le début mais que je ne voulais pas lui poser par refus (obtus et délibéré) de lui adresser directement la parole. Si je comprends bien sa réponse à ton envoi, il est passé pour ce qui est du ton, de l'invective systématique à l'humilité forcenée. Drôle de conversion. -- Je poursuis ma marche chaotique sur la page QI, en paysan du Danube (ou de Charente, c'est pareil) mais je prépare aussi quelques photos pour la page VI... -- Par ailleurs je continue à apprécier tes images qui n'ont de monotone que leur excellence ! -- Bien cordialement. JLPC (talk) 20:03, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Pour ta clef tu peux t’entraîner sur des sujets botaniques. f30 génère du bruit chromatique. La stratégie est simpliste tu prends un objet du photographie le plan le plus éloigné (f10 est optimum pour des iso les plus bas possible 100 ou 200) tu refais une image du plan moyen et une du plan le plus proche de l'objectif. Peux-tu tirer en RAW? --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 05:30, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
Merci de ton aide en ligne. Commencé l'entraînement en raw (format DNG) avec un gros silex taillé. J'ai effectué trois prises de vue. Ayant installé "Image J" sur mon système Linux, j'ai essayé de l'utiliser mais je ne vois pas comment en tirer parti. Je peux aussi l'installer sous Windows si c'est plus simple. -- Poursuis le pas-à-pas, si tu le veux bien, mais à une seule condition : que cela n'empiète pas sur ton temps. -- Très cordialement. -- JLPC (talk) 08:27, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
Pour "empiler" tes trois images il te faut un logiciel. CombineZP (qui est gratuit) est excellent. Charge-le. Fait quelques essais au format JPG pour que çà aille vite. Dès que tu auras compris comment çà marche tu pourras faire les empilements au format TIFF qui donne un meilleur résultat mais en fonction des machines çà peut être long. Avec CombineZP 1) tu charge tes 3 images 2) tu fais un balance de ton (1er ligne) çà va très vite, puis tu passe à la 2e ligne l’alignement des images c'est plus long; enfin du empile. Il y a plusieurs possibilité Do STakc la premièrement est déjà très bonne (c'est l'étape la plus longue). Tu sauves au forma que tu veux et tu peux faire du post traitement classique sur l'image finale. Tiens-moi informé de tes progrès. Le WK approche et j'aurai du temps...--Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 09:31, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
J'ai téléchargé Combine ZP et commencé les essais sous Windows 7. Après quelques cafouillages (dus à une stabilité du pied mal maîtrisée), j'ai pu obtenir des résultats divers, en protographiant des objets relativement importants (en volume). J'ai eu plus de réussite avec un livre qu'avec une boîte de format réduit, pour des raisons de mise au point (ici il y a des habitudes à prendre car il faut faire les trois mises au point en manuel). Je pense persévérer, ne serait-ce que pour obtenir une clef présentable (!!). En revanche, pour ce qui est d'utiliser la même technique avec des fleurs, ce sera difficile : je lutte perpétuellement contre le vent car je photographie les végétaux in situ le plus possible. -- Je vais cependant poursuivre et, dès que j'aurai un peu mieux maîtrisé le fonctionnement du logiciel je te ferai part de mes progrès ou de mes problèmes. Merci en tout cas de ton aide. -- Bien cordialement. -- JLPC (talk) 19:43, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

PUB :[edit]

Bonjour, voilà une page pour la promotion d'une image : Commons:Featured picture candidates/File:Mémoriale-16-Décembre-1950.jpg Que signifie "no wow" ? Bourgeois.A (talk) 13:59, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Effectivement ne sont promu ici que des images exceptionnelles (en théorie); mais rassure toi nous avons tous commencé par croire que nos images l'étaient, avant de nous rendre compte qu'il y avait encore du travail à accomplir. Penses-tu que ton image soit à même d'étonner quelqu'un aux Maldives ou en Laponie? Le sujet est trop étroit pour qu'il y ai une émotion. Ne te décourage pas et continue. Déjà tu progresse vite et s'est encourageant. --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 14:46, 18 July 2012 (UTC)


Promotion en fanfare[edit]

Merci pour ton indulgence. J'ai été surpris qu'il n'y en ait aucune autre montrant cette formation en entier.
Ayant bénéficié d'une position d'observation privilégiée de matin-là (être de permanence active peut ne pas avoir que des inconvénients) j'ai pris du plaisir à prendre cette photo avec mon nouvel objectif, ainsi que d'autres d'ailleurs, pas encore chargées, mais à venir après mes vacances. A titre seulement documentaire et sans juger de la politique, je te propose aussi celle-là, que je pense ne pas avoir trop mal réussie...--Jebulon (talk) 08:11, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
Belles images celle-ci il y a peut être un contraste trop fort, j'aurai éclairci les tons sombres, mais c'est subjectif. Je ne médite pas d'acheter un nouvel objectif, mon capteur m'interdit de descendre en dessous de 20mm, et j'ai un 70-300 que j’utilise peu. Je louche depuis quelques temps vers la maison Hasselblad, mais c'est un peu déraisonnable...--Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 09:04, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
j'ai tenté d'éclaircir en réduiant le contraste. Résultat: trop de bruit, et pixellisation de l'uniforme de l'Amiral.--Jebulon (talk) 19:13, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
J'ai essayé aussi. Même résultat. On aura essayé! --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 19:34, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

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Merci pour tes traductions pour mes images de flamants roses! Unfortunately I don't speak Balzac's language very well, so I continue in English :-)

I have slightly modified your German description of the Uncarina ankaranensis image, as you requested. Let me congratulate you on this beautiful and technically perfect photo of an interesting specimen! Don't hesitate to contact me again whenever you need another German translation. Hope to hear from you again, best regards --Pjt56 (talk) 18:26, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

  • Thank you for Uncarina ankaranensis. Do not hesitate to ask me again. here was a pleasure. --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 18:42, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
    • I will! And if French is more convenient to you just write in French. It's good practice for me! --Pjt56 (talk) 20:13, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

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Thank you for your fluoride containing mineral images[edit]

See the usage on En-wiki article "Fluorine" (On Earth section). The cryolite in particular is yummy. I hope some day that article will be all polished and finished (perhaps in 2013). At that point, I will try to persuade a Gaul to translate it. I had "Painted turtle" translated to French and FA-ed there. Images mean a lot and translate accross borders...

TCO (talk) 16:52, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for your message and your work touches me deeply. Voltaire said that "an encyclopedia without image was only a skeleton." I will try you with complete skeletons. --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 17:02, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

Sorry to disturb you[edit]

I know you already noticed the review issues in QI. The problem still exists and we are facing more personal attacks now. I can neglect comments from people who are ignorant about the subject; but it is difficult from the subject experts. I'm talking about B.p., who claim he is a subject expert; but attacking people who disagree with him. The interesting thing is that he no longer nominating any images of him; only wandering here to decline images of people who contributes. He is frequently decline images of Llez too.

I've no problem even if all of my images are declined/ de-listed, but I would like to bring it your notice because it will harm the growth of our project in long time. I'm planning to move to projects like Wikipedia:WikiProject Insects and Wikipedia:WikiProject Lepidoptera because I feel more comfortable there.

Please notice this thread too. Thanks, -- Jkadavoor (Jee) (talk) 09:22, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

  • First: you do not disturb me, rather it is a pleasure for me. I actually saw the pictures in IQ. Biopic not wrong but he has not very good character and is undiplomatic. It's a shame because it's a good photographer and if he wants, he can bring a lot. He shall be asked without the rush. The third image seems to me quite successful and I will for you in making a point that I hope soothing. Do not be discouraged; photography "in vivo" is very difficult. Label for IQ I'm not sure it is very useful except to exchange ideas and techniques. Come rather VI. --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 13:30, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
    Thanks for your encouraging words. I will move to VI. -- Jkadavoor (Jee) (talk) 06:28, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

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Hirundo rustica[edit]

Passant, comme chaque matin, sur la page VI, je constate que le lien de ton scope ne pointe pas directement sur la page où figurent les œufs de l'hirondelle (il faut cliquer en bas de page sur "Category:Hirundo rustica" pour obtenir une nouvelle page avec la sous-catégorie "esggs"). Est-ce un problème ? Je le soulève non seulement parce qu'il concerne ton image, mais aussi parce que je me le pose au sujet d'une ou deux photos que je désire proposer en VI. D'autre part, je ne suis pas sûr d'avoir tout compris en ce qui concerne le rapport scope/category. -- Cela dit, tu m'as coupé l'herbe sous le pied au moment où j'allais suggérer à Bgag de proposer plutôt un set avec vue extérieure et vue intérieure. Mais il est vrai que sa vue intérieure est fortement déformée. -- Déformation(s) aussi et problèmes de lumière pour ce qui concerne Pere prlpz : la qualité n'est pas ce qui prime en VI, mais n'y a-t-il pas des limites ? -- Dernier aparté qui confirme tes récents propos concernant la nécessité d'apprendre le focus stacking : très bonne photo de bonzaï par P. Selim avant-hier en QI. Il me semble qu'il a dû avoir recours à cette technique. Mais je me trompe peut-être... -- Très cordialement. -- JLPC (talk) 08:10, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Très juste! D'une façon générale c'est bien de faire pointer le scope vers la gallery. Au détail près que je n'y avais pas mis la photo. J'ai corrigé grâce à toi. Le deuxième problème est la qualité des images proposées : certaines sont parfois médiocres. En fait le règlement impose d'avoir bien décrit l'objet du scope, la qualité n'est que secondaire. Ce dernier point est en fait très subjectif et c'est en conscience que l'on donne, ou pas, le label. Je dois dire que parfois il me faut plusieurs jours pour me décider dans un sens ou dans l'autre. J'ai vu le Bonzaï de Pierre, il n'est pas sûr qu'il l'ai fait en focus stacking, car il faudrait un pied et la Smithonian ne le permet pas. Je ne sais pas s'il est rentré de son voyage tu peux l’interroger sur ce point. Si on ne l'a déjà fais je te le recommande, tant comme photographe, que comme homme, il m'aide souvent au MHNT. Quoique maintenant qu'il à vu la Smithsonian il va peut être bouder nos pauvres collections... Le focus stacking est dans beaucoup de mes images, les oeufs sont tous des empilements de 2 à 4 photos... Merci encore de ta vigilance. --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 10:38, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
Coucou, pour le Bonzaï à Brooklyn j'ai utilisé une courte focale (22mm en APS-C ~ 35mm) et une ouverture faible f/8, ça donne une profondeur de champs assez grande. Le focus stack n'est pas toujours nécessaire mais sur de la photo macro c'est vite obligatoire, les profondeurs de champs même en fermant à fond sont tellement faibles. --PierreSelim (talk) 15:51, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
Ah te revoilà! Merci pour l'éléphant que j'ai affiché dans mon bureau. En Août si le coeur t'en dis on peut faire quelques photo au muséum... --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 05:57, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
✓OK avec plaisir! --PierreSelim (talk) 08:25, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Hi[edit]

Hi Archa, How are you? I took two photos in Mar del Plata and I am thinking in you. Could you classify the species? Do you think that the first photo may be QIC? Regards and I hope that the pictures will be useful Ezarateesteban 21:25, 25 July 2012 (UTC) The pictures are:

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Casa Domènech i Estapà[edit]

Don't worry. I agree that this image is not very good, in spite being the best of this building. I should have been a bit more strict. I hope we will get a better image in next Wiki Loves Monuments edition.

My succeeded nominations until now (one of them discussed a few months ago) and this failed one, are very useful to understand better what is expected from a VI and improve my future nominations. I would like to nominate a VI for as many cultural heritage monuments as possible, while I'm categorizing images of monuments in Catalonia.--Pere prlpz (talk) 13:12, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

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Le feu au lac[edit]

Je trouve ton mot en rentrant d'une brève sortie photo. Merci pour l'entr'aide : bourde de ma part (vieillissement). J'ai rectifié. -- Assez surpris par ailleurs de la demande de Slaunger lequel est, j'imagine, de bonne foi étant donné la sympathie qu'il a manifestée jusque-là. --(Il me fait seulement penser à ce vieux Charentais qui, revenant des chutes de Plitvice avait eu ce mot définitif : "C'est jamais que de l'eau !") -- Le problème est que je ne sais quoi répondre à la demande qui m'est faite car si je suis tout à fait d'accord pour recadrer ou retoucher sans mot dire (Wikipédia est un travail collectif), je me vois mal expliquant l'intérêt d'une” photo à quelqu'un qui n'y est pas sensible. C'est son droit de ne rien sentir et c'est son devoir de le dire, surtout s'il est compétent, ce qui est le cas. J'ai essayé de rassembler tout mon anglais pour le lui expliquer gentiment et je ne lui en voudrai pas du tout s'il refuse ma photo. Je pourrai même améliorer celle-ci dès le mileu de la semaine (si le temps le permet) puisque je retourne à Barèges mardi pour quelques jours. -- Mes exercices d'empilage sont ajournés mais ils ne perdent rien pour attendre ! -- Bonne soirée à toi et merci encore. JLPC (talk) 18:33, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

Merci de ton conseil très pertinent : je l'ai suivi en ajoutant trois notes. J'espère, par aileurs, que mon anglais schématique ne m'a pas donné l'air trop "raide" dans le débat. Je ne veux surtout pas blesser Slaunger. Je lui enverrai un mot dans l'après-midi ou la soirée. -- Bien cordialement. JLPC (talk) 10:28, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
Smile It is funny to see my own person being discussed in French. You are doing it very respectfully though, so I have no problem with it.Smile I sense some indications of miscommunication about feeling and senses, probably due to language barriers. Not that I understand perfectly, but I think I understand roughly.
A bit busy right now, but just want to say that I am not unhappy about the photo or anything. I am just trying to reflect on what is a good a illustration of a lake, river, landscape. In hindsight I should perhaps have started a discussion about it on the VIC talk page instead of picking one nomination for my reflections. My verbose comments there mostly reflect an uncertainty from my part in my own understanding of the scope and an invitation to the nominator to educate me about this lake. So I am just trying to learn. I am actually not currently inclined to decline the nomination, on the contrary, I just would like to (after my initial mistake with the which lake is which) to be sure this time that I do a correct assessment.
You know, every tree, every lake and every hill is different and look distinct, but of course we cannot make a VI for every tree, and perhaps not for every hill to. I am confident this lake warrants a scope and a VI - there is an article about it on the French wiki. I am just trying to understand, smell and sense this lake, and understand what makes it a little different from other alpine lakes. Once i understand that I can better assess if the nomination illustrates the subject well (I think it does, I just want to be sure). --Slaunger (talk) 12:23, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
On peut tout voir sur COMMONS ; même des conversations entre Gentlemans.
Cette image pose, le problème du champ d’application. Je dois dire que j’y ai un peu réfléchie et j’ai pensé que le lac a un habitus très particulier : ce sont les montagnes qui l’entoure. Si on les nomme, cette image à une spécificité propre qui, a mon sens, lève nos interrogations.
Je ne suis pas sûr qu’il faille initier un débat pour faire de nouvelles règles. Je crois beaucoup plus à l’intérêt de nos discussions ponctuelles, pour chaque image.
You can see everything on COMMONS, even conversations between Gentlemans.
This image poses the problem of scope. I must say that I've reflected a bit and I thought that the lake has a very unique habitus: it is the mountains that surrounds it. If they are called, this image a very specific nature which, in my opinion, get our questions.
I'm not sure that we should initiate a debate to make new rules. I believe much more in the interest of our discussion point for each image. --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 13:40, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

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Not only pears...[edit]

Good evening gentleman,

I had a new visitor in my garden this morning. It must be very urbanized. It did not even care that I passed by large windows a few meters of it several times doing my early morning routines.

I see it is "only" going to be 30 °C in Toulouse tomorrow and better than the 12-15 °C we have had here today with heavy rain showers and thunder. Perhaps your climate is better after all... --Slaunger (talk) 21:59, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

  • Be careful what type of animal can eat pears! In France we have many solutions to this problem ... All cooking. --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 09:48, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
    • I doubt this one can jump that high, but you are right about the gastronomic perspectives.Smile However, the population of hares is low in Denmark these days, especially in Jutland, the mainland connected to continental Europe. The hunting season was decreased by two weeks in 2010 to October 1 - November 30. I am not an animal hunter myself though, only of photographs... --Slaunger (talk) 10:27, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

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"File:" is essential[edit]

Hi Archaeodontosaurus - the "File:" syntax may not be essential for the images to show on gallery pages here, but I've discovered that it is essential for image use by important outside Commons users like the Encyclopedia of Life; remove the "File:", and it denies them access to the Commons images as it is an essential part of their automated harvesting system. Note how e.g. none of the Commons images of Pinus coulteri appears there as of today: Pinus coulteri at EOL (until their next harvest, next week); until recently, they were all showing there. Could I ask you therefore, as a matter of urgency, to restore "File:" on all the biology-related pages you have removed it from. If the removal of "File:" has been discussed anywhere else on Commons, could you please draw this matter to attention there, again, as a matter of urgency. Thanks! - MPF (talk) 08:41, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Sorry but I remain convinced that we must continue to remove those elements that are not required. If external operators are using our images went very well, they easily adapt their procedures. They have done well to "File:" and "Image:". Sincerely.--Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 09:11, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
But they are required! I will ask the EOL site managers for full details, but they need an indicator of what is a file to harvest, and what is just text for the harvester to ignore. It is possible to set both "Image:" and "File:" as harvesting targets, but nothing cannot be a target! Please, it is important, as Commons contributes over half of the images at EOL; without them, the site is severely depleted. Thanks! - MPF (talk) 11:14, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
I asked to moral of Commons, I await the response. --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 12:05, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
Am I the moral of Commons?!? Smile Well, I am flattered! Look, you both have a point. How about this: Put some pressure on EOL to implement capability to parse gallery tags without the File: prefix. Would this be possible? Once up and running, Archaeodontosaurus can continue removing the prefix in gallery page maintenance? I see no urgency in the latter except that it is more concise. --Slaunger (talk) 12:21, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
Perfect I agree with this opinion wise. I no longer goes out the prefixes for biology, for a moment.--Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 12:34, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
I have asked the EOL staff, and will respond when I get a reply; until then, I'm putting "File:" back in, so the pics are harvested again until any future developments at EOL make non-File: files harvestable - MPF (talk) 15:02, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
No problem, expect the answer. I did not removed the prefixes for biology in COMMONS --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 15:09, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
I do not know how they do the harvesting, but I am not concerned about filtering the images out with a search. Catching file names without the File: prefix embedded in a gallery tag should be straightforward using some appropriate regular expressions. --Slaunger (talk) 20:25, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
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Do not remove File: format - I have already pointed out to you that this is essential for EOL to be able to harvest images. If you remove any more, I will consider it vandalism and block your edits. - MPF (talk) 19:38, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

I can confirm that EOL have stated that File: / Image: format is essential for image harvest; there is no other way they can distinguish between filenames on galleries, and other text. Investigations into other options remain in progress, but may be a long time (weeks, possibly months) in yielding any results. My apologies if I have removed any valued image signs, but restoring the File: format takes major precedence over minor items like that (numerous FI, VI, QI are not so cited on galleries; many are not even included on galleries). I have not seen any other editor removing File: formatting, nor have I seen any specifications anywhere for its removal. This seems to be your idea alone, and you have yet to say why you consider it so extremely important. - MPF (talk) 19:56, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

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Je cherche l'image do Moissan en coulour[edit]

Can you help us here? If not access to the book, by posting on French wiki the question for others?

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump/Copyright#Moissan_color_image

TCO (talk) 16:26, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

I'll see if we have this book in Toulouse at the Museum or the Science Faculty --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 17:13, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

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de Séville[edit]

bonjour mon ami.

Juste un salut depuis Séville, où je séjourne brièvement. À Grenade où je réside pour le mois, pas de wifi, et Orange refuse l'accès à la 3G pour mon Ipad. Donc, silence sur les ondes, et cure de repos d'Internet. Pas si désagréable. En attendant, j'engrange des photos de toutes sortes pour ma rentrée sur Commons. Si je croise ce soir Figaro et Carmen, je les salue de ta part. Amitiés, --Jebulon (talk) 18:15, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Je me doutais bien que tu "moissonnais" quelque part. Tu peux renter ici tout est calme. :) --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 05:42, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

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Hotel de Ville de St Emilion[edit]

Salut Archaeodontosaurus! Je pense que c'est une faute du QICbot et je l'ai corrigé. Bon week-end!--Paris 16 (talk) 15:23, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Merci je savais que tu étais l'homme de la situation. --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 15:35, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

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Le lac est dans le lac[edit]

Nous nous sommes donc entr'aidés et c'est très bien ainsi. Je te remercie de ton attention à mon set et de l'utilisation que tu as faite de mes photos. Pas de regrets pour la nomination retirée : Slaunger est l'initiateur du projet, il a un point de vue cohérent, je respecte ce point de vue. Je proposerai, comme il me l'a suggéré, un MVR entre le panoramique et la première image du set et tout sera pour le mieux. Ce qui m'intéresse, dans les différentes pages consacrées à la photo, c'est davantage le contact avec les images des autres (et avec ceux-ci) que les promotions elles-mêmes, mon but étant d'améliorer mes productions (même si, évidemment, certaines promotions font plaisir !). J'ai uploadé pendant quelques mois des images très contestables et j'essaie de remplacer les fichiers déficients par des fichiers correspondant aux normes QI, que le label y figure ou pas. -- Pour ce qui est de l'utilisation dans l'encyclopédie, j'ai lentement compris ce que tu soulignes, à savoir qu'on n'est jamais si bien servi que par soi-même. J'essaie de placer au mieux mes photos et il me semble d'ailleurs qu'il y a là un sujet de réflexion qui devrait apparaître en QI : où une telle photo peut-elle être utilisée ? On a parfois de la peine à l'imaginer ! C'est pourquoi j'aime bien le "useful" dont tu assortis tes commentaires. -- En ce qui concerne le nouveau critique de choc, il a au moins une différence avec le précédent : il est plus facile à recadrer puisqu'il juge en ne tenant compte que de son humeur, ce qui est un peu juste. Avant de donner ses avis, surtout aussi péremptoirement, il pourrait au moins lire les critères en vigueur dans chaque catégorie (il a également sévi, aussi légèrement, en QI) et se montrer attentif aux compétences. Mais j'espère que tes arguments, comme ceux de Llez, vont, au moins, le faire douter. -- Bien. Content d'avoir discuté un moment avec toi. Je compte reprendre bientôt mes exercices d'empilement mais auparavant, je dois absolument apprendre à maîtriser définitivement les CA qui continuent à me poser problème, notamment sur mes anciens fichiers ! -- Bien cordialement. --JLPC (talk) 10:46, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

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La chenille![edit]

Pour une fois j’y avais pensé. J’ai attendu de recevoir ce matin le label VI, et comme elle avec le QI et Tomer l’avait faite connaitre en Angleterre, je me suis dis : « c’est le moment ». Et en voulant la placer je vois qu’elle est déjà élue. Merci. J’espère que vous allez réussir à faire « sauter » le MNHT. Nous avons eu hier une grande joie : 3 de mes images sont parues dans « NATURE ». La coopération avec les scientifiques est donc possible, avec des résultats tangibles… --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 17:42, 10 August 2012 (UTC)


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/FPCBot (talk) 05:00, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

Voilà elle est récompensée, félicitations ! Navré de t'avoir grillé la politesse, mais cette chenille avait déjà trop attendu pour être remarquée (2010) ! Concernant le MNHN, c'est au point mort pour le moment, dès mon retour j'essaie de faire bouger les choses. Où peut on voir cet article, sans avoir à aller dans une bibliothèque spécialisée ? Pour ma part, une de mes photos de calmar géant s'est retrouvée dans un bouquin français, malheureusement, je ne suis absolument pas crédité....--Citron (talk) 11:16, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
Merci encore. Je vais faire des bassesses pour me le procurer. En attendant je te fais un Email avec les sites qui ont repris l'information: il y en a beaucoup. --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 16:43, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

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Tourbe[edit]

Tout d'abord merci pour ta réponse de dimanche concernant les CA : inutile de chercher la quadrature du cercle. Une utilisation généralisée du format raw s'impose donc.-- Merci également pour ton attention en VI. Je viens de répondre à ta question (en français, plus rapide !). Peut-être aurais-je dû faire figurer le terme "écomusée" quelque part... Je vais le porter sur la description du fichier. -- J'ai mis hier matin la mention "supported" (oubliée la semaine dernière) aux deux photos contestées par le coupeur de cheveux en quatre qui les avait prises à partie. George Chernilevski a terminé le travail ce matin. Tout est donc très bien de ce côté-là. -- Bravo pour la chenille (je ne sais plus si j'ai voté pour elle : au-dessus d'un certain nombre, je n'interviens pas !). Bravo aussi pour la publication de tes photos en revue (vu ci-dessus) : voilà une caution qui doit te faire plaisir et qui fait plaisir à ceux qui connaissent ton travail. -- À bientôt. Cordialement. --JLPC (talk) 09:30, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

  • Merci de tes encouragements. Il est utile de signaler les écomusées, à la fois pour les promouvoir, et pour signaler aux votants de VI, l'importance de l'image. Enfin je confirme : Sans RAW point de salut! --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 10:13, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

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FP Promotion[edit]

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Voilà, fallait quand même labelliser l’icône officielle de notre projet Zoologie ! Amicalement--Citron (talk) 17:38, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

  • Je t'en remercie bien vivement. Pour le modèle:zoologie, ce n'est pas ce papillon mais une image de moindre qualité. Ce modèle ne peut être modifié que par un administrateur. --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 05:34, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

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Téviec, suite[edit]

Bonjour mon cher ami,
J'ai mis un mot sous ta proposition, mais je voulais aussi que tu trouves un petit message de remerciements sur ta page.
J'ai trouvé tes explications particulièrement claires et intéressantes, ces précisions m'ont été utiles, et les choses sont désormais bien claires dans mon esprit relativement à cette remarquable image absolument magnifique et toujours aussi surprenante. Elle m'intéresse d'autant plus que comme tu le sais, je connais le lieu très bien, ayant passé des vacances plusieurs années sur la côte au bord de cette île qui n'est d'ailleurs qu'un îlot.
Bon, si je comprends bien, nous avons là encore un Saint-Just exécuté. C'est une manie, chez eux ? Un de mes futurs collaborateurs ( au sens actuel !) porte ce nom, je vais lui dire de se méfier !!
Je trouve que la qualité de ton travail se bonifie d'image en image, et si je me manifeste moins pour soutenir des productions qui n'ont pas besoin de moi, je me régale toujours autant, tant tu maîtrises tes sujets. Esthétique et intérêt documentaire sont toujours au rendez-vous, on n'est jamais déçu !
As-tu vu que récemment une sorte de comète noire m'a accusé de rameutage pour le soutien d'une photo que tu as bien voulu juger positivement ? Je lui ai vertement répondu, et depuis, il a plus ou moins disparu, au point de piteusement faire disparaître mon message (sans réponse) dans ses archives...
Vois-tu, c'est ça qui parfois me décourage un peu: la bêtise et la méchanceté des gens, jusque dans l'expression des loisirs. Heureusement qu'il y a des gens comme toi (et d'autres) avec qui il y a vraiment moyen de prendre du plaisir ! Et qu'il y a aussi parfois de vrais débats de fond, mais entre "honnêtes hommes", courtoisement et sans haine grossière, comme celui que nous avons à propos de l'image de Tomascatelazo par exemple !
Je trouve aussi que parfois les "nouveaux" sont bien mal accueillis. Notre récent ami charentais a eu de la chance de "t'avoir" assez vite (j'échange aussi avec lui, avec infiniment de plaisir), mais on a très mal reçu en QI un Anglais balbutiant (Danesman1) que j'essaie tant bien que mal de piloter un brin dans le maquis des identifications nécessaires des espèces. Du coup, il m'en est reconnaissant.
C'est tellement facile (et agréable) de donner le petit coup de pouce qui va bien au moment nécessaire, que je m'étonne des combats parfois si peu corrects auxquels nous assistons (et parfois, participons...)
Quoi qu'il en soit, me voici à nouveau dans ces pages, et me^me si tu me connais bien désormais, j'espère te montrer des choses qui te plairont ou te surprendront, pourquoi pas !
Très amicalement, --Jebulon (talk) 16:28, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

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Ma catégorie gargouille[edit]

Ce matin, j'avais déposé, non sans précautions, une gargouille charentaise en restreignant honnêtement le scope (Hôtel de ville) car nous avons aussi une magnifique cathédrale à gargouilles... Mais j'avais oublié d'utiliser l'anglais dans mon intitulé. On me prévient : je corrige, me justifie et me retire... Pendant ce temps, un Wikipédien facétieux modifie la catégorie à laquelle ma gargouille appartenait. Mon lien devient alors rouge de honte. Heureusement tu passes par là et rectifies (l'historique m'a renseigné), discret mais efficace, comme à ton habitude. Merci donc, une fois de plus. -- Pour ce qui est des Eyzies et de Vendoire, je découvre la coutume wikipédienne du conserver/détruire avec un vague étonnement. Légaliste jusqu'au bout des ongles, j'avais demandé et obtenu l'autorisation de publication de la part du concepteur de l'écomusée de la tourbe... Mais, pendant ce temps, l'affaire a été bouclée en moins de deux pour cause d'originalité insuffisante du bâtiment. J'espère que mon brave homme d'architecte ne lira pas un tel verdict ! Je viens de voir que la discussion se poursuit en ce qui concerne ton fichier et qu'une forte tendance se dessine pour la conservation mais, dans les deux cas, ma question est : on garde... jusqu'à quand ? Est-ce à dire qu'une fois la décision prise toute (éventuelle) poursuite est assumée par Wikipédia ? -- Ne réponds à ce type de question que si l'explication est brève. Dans le cas contraire garde ton temps pour... tes photos ! -- Très cordialement. JLPC (talk) 20:31, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Bonsoir, je passe par là. Il n'y a jamais eu, à ma connaissance, de poursuite... (et là, on est sur "Commons", pas sur "Wikipédia...."). C'est très théorique et donc très agaçant. Wikimedia en général n'est pas censuré, dit-on avec fierté. Hélas si. Et le pire, c'est que c'est de l'auto-censure ! On garde donc, peut-être, mais jusqu'à ce que quelqu'un d'autre relance le débat et finisse par obtenir la suppression. Le vote n'est qu'indicatif, un administrateur peut supprimer s'il passe par là, quel que soit le vote, s'il juge que l'image viole le droit d'auteur. Je rappelle à cet égard au "propriétaire" de cette page un fameux débat sur un drapeau de la Charente-Maritime, (tu te souviens, Archaeo ?...) il doit y avoir deux ans... L'image, quoique promue en QI, et malgré une autorisation de la chargée de com du Conseil Général de la Charente-Maritime, a été effacée, au motif que cette pauvre femme devait vraiment être trop c..., et que malgré son autorisation, plusieurs fois émise par écrit, elle n'avait sûrement rien compris aux enjeux ! Incroyable ! On a tous subi ça, je crois. Moralité, je ne demande plus jamais aucune autorisation, et j'essaie de passer "en douce", autant que je peux, si le cas se présente. La bureaucratie procédurière d'OTRS, par exemple, est insupportable de bêtise et de pinaillage (pinaillerie ?). Sinon, ça va, vous deux ? Amitiés à partager, --Jebulon (talk) 23:21, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
Notre système (wikipedia- commons) autogéré ne peut pas marcher, c’est impossible à grande échelle. Et pourtant il fonctionne et plutôt bien. Les règles sont très fortement interprétatives et il y a des pertes en ligne. Il faut les accepter comme prix à payer pour le fonctionnement. Nous avons tous avalé des couleuvres et replié parfois nos drapeaux (des Charente-Maritime). J’avais déjà fais mon deuil du Musée des Eyzies, mais il semble qu’il ne soit pas tout à fais mort. Pour le musée de la tourbe. Attend deux semaines et reverse l’image avec l’autorisation. Ce schéma est aussi applicable au drapeau.
A bien y réfléchir se qui permet à cette gigantesque machine de marcher c’est le lubrifiant ! Nos espaces de discussion sont le secret de notre réussite. Sans eux rien ne serait possible. Ils apaisent nos tensions, permette la circulation des idées, et ils relient les hommes. Se que beaucoup de systèmes ont essayé de faire par le passé sans trop y parvenir. Se retrouver servant de la libre circulation des connaissances n’est pas désagréable. Il y a un œuvre dans l’œuvre. --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 05:49, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

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Italics for scientific names[edit]

Hello Archae, I see you very often in my watchlist putting the scientific names of plants or animals in italics. Right now I don't have time to fix all pictures I have uploaded but I promise to fix those that I edit for whatever reasons and all new uploads (actually I have being doing so already for a couple of days). I just wanted to let you know that I do learn from my errors or that I will improve my "bad customs" :), regards from Spain, Poco a poco (talk) 11:27, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

Do not worry, I do if I encounter. This is automatic for me. I always look with interest your pictures. --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 17:33, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

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Catégorie Valued images[edit]

Bonjour,

Je viens de voir que certaines de tes images sont dans la catégorie Category:Valued images, et qu'on ne peut pas retirer cette catégorie. Je pense qu'il faudrait éventuellement faire des sous-catégories Category:Valued images of arthropods. Qu'en penses-tu ? Cordialement, Yann (talk) 13:03, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

Je le découvre. Je n'ai aucune idée du pourquoi de la chose, car cette "category" n'est pas référencée dans les images en questions; c'est plutôt un bug. Je n'ai pas d'idée. --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 17:30, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

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Magdalenian sewing needle[edit]

À toute vitesse (je pars) : tu as oublié le lien du scope. Très cordialement. --JLPC (talk) 06:09, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

Merci, mais dans ce cas il n'y en a pas. Les aiguilles à coudre magdaléniennes n'encombrenent pas COMMONS et je répugne à faire une category spécifique. à bientôt (ne va pas trop vite :)) --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 06:16, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
Je ne partais pas très loin, mais je me pressais, à cause d'un léger retard sur l'horaire prévu... Pour ce qui est de la conduite, la vie m'a appris à ne pas rouler trop vite ! -- Merci, une fois de plus, pour ton intervention, cette fois au sujet du Maine-Giraud : je n'avais pas fait les modifications nécessaires sur ce fichier. -- Tout est bien au sujet de l'aiguille. -- Merci encore et à bientôt sur nos écrans ! --JLPC (talk) 20:03, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

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La palude del diavolo[edit]

Merci beaucoup de m'avoir fait part de ton sentiment. Le "wow" est une chose, l'émotion en est une autre (si je puis m'exprimer ainsi)... Il est difficile d'exprimer une émotion en prenant une photo. Encore plus difficile de prévoir quels seront les effets de celle-ci sur les autres. Ce qui me touche ne touche pas forcément mon voisin. Mais tant que nous sommes touchés ou émus, nous demeurons des êtres humains... Bien amicalement. --JLPC (talk) 08:01, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

Édition supprimé[edit]

Cordialement, J'ai été chercher les causes qui ont conduit à cet événement, cependant, je crois que cela est dû à un conflit d'erreur de montage. Je suis désolé de la situation et j'espère que vous comprendrez que ce n'était pas mon intention. J'espère vous voir à l'avenir à d'autres situations agréables, je regrette que nous avons connu cela. Happy day, un câlin. --Wilfredor (talk) 12:24, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

Je te remercie de ta réponse qui me rassure pleinement. Dommage que tous les conflits ne se règlent pas aussi facilement et aussi courtoisement que celui-ci. Bien Amicalement --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 12:29, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

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category sur la préhistoire[edit]

BONJOUR. Où as-tu vu que j'ai créé une quelconque catégorie sur la préhistoire ? Je n'ai créé de catégories que dans la Category:Gavaudun, ouvre les yeux ! ℍenry (Babel talk !) (Francophone ?) 12:42, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

Il n'en reste pas moins que ces images doivent être catégorisées. C'est impératif !!! ℍenry (Babel talk !) (Francophone ?) 12:47, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
Tu as enlever les category dans ces deux series :
  • Fleche Font Robert 231.4 (2).jpg
  • Pointe de la gravette MHNT PRE 2009.0.231.1 (3).jpg

--Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 12:50, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

Je n'ai pas ENLEVÉ de catégories !

Je ne pense pas avoir semé une quelconque pagaille. Tu aurais du mieux observer mon classement avant de défaire mes interventions. Je ne suis pas encore complètement abruti (je sais que tu ne l'as pas dit). ℍenry (Babel talk !) (Francophone ?) 13:29, 17 September 2012 (UTC)


J’ai parfaitement vu ton travail, qui part d’un très bon sentiment. Mais en voulant simplifier tu fermes hermétiquement des portes. Voici un exemple : si je fais une photo d’une pointe de flèche du Gravettien, trouvé par Breuil, je ne peux pas utiliser ta super categorie, car le musée de Montauban se retrouve référence au muséum de Toulouse. On peut prendre aussi le même exemple d’une pointe de flèche du gravettien, au muséum de Toulouse trouvée par Lartet. Je ne peux pas me servir de ta catégorie car Lartet se trouve référence avec Breuil. --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 16:15, 17 September 2012 (UTC)


Je te remercie d'adopter un ton un peu plus amène. Il n'empêche qu'il serait bon que les images ne se retrouvent pas directement sur la page Category:Gavaudun. Tu risques fort de retrouver ces images ordonnancées par un "catégoriseur fou" et d'une façon qui serait pire. Tu sais qu'au delà de 2 ou 3 images sur le même sujet, on catégorise ! En ce moment, je gère les communes du Lot-et-Garonne avec, a priori, les regards "monuments historiques" et "classification des églises par saints patrons". Et là, j'ai été surpris. Je crois que la Category:Prehistoric artefacts from Gavaudun peut convenir à tes souhaits. Maintenant il va de soi qu'il te reste à imaginer une autre classification, peut-être à l'instar de Category:Scraper from Gavaudun, France - MHNT PRE.2009.0212.3‎. On peut peut-être faire simple en versant simplement les images dans Artefacts sans utiliser les 3 catégories Arrowheads, Darts et Microliths. ℍenry (Babel talk !) (Francophone ?) 19:11, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

Bien nous avons bien avancé. Je te suis parfaitement sur ton découpage et j'ai remis de l'ordre. Reste l'aspect subjectif de la sur-catégorisation des categories que tu as créés mais c'est à toi de l’apprécier. Bonne journée. --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 05:43, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

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Problèmes pointus[edit]

Il me semble que le scope de "Paleolithic stitching awl" ne pointe, malgré sa forme, vers aucun lien. Est-ce voulu ? -- Deuxième question : j'ai vu, sur de nombreuses pages, un "compteur" qui relève le nombre de photos de chaque contributeur (QI, FP, VI). Ce n'est pas tant le compteur qui m'intéresse que les catégories qui lui permettent de fonctionner. Par exemple : "Category:Quality images by X...". Existe-t-il un processus qui permet de remplir une telle catégorie automatiquement ou bien faut-il y déposer soi-même ses photos à mesure des promotions (avec Hot cat par exemple) ? -- La question n'est pas de première importance, tu t'en doutes, et sa réponse peut attendre. -- Bien amicalement. --JLPC (talk) 09:34, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Compteurs: je crois qu'il y a un bidule pour le faire automatiquement, mais moi, je rajoute la catégorie Quality Image by Jebulon à la main. Je n'utilise pas de compteur pour les FP ni les VI, là aussi je les enregistre une par une à la main. La question pourrait être posée au "bistrot", c'est fait pour ça, après tout... Bonne journée à tous les deux.--Jebulon (talk) 11:36, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
Pour le poinçon tu as parfaitement raison. C'est amusant comme on peux facilement retomber des ces propres erreurs. Je vais faire une catégorie. Pour les compteurs ils sont "automatiques" si tu rentre la categorie "à la mains". Je te conseille de le faire tout de suite... Bonne journée. --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 12:24, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

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Quality images candidates[edit]

Please, see again Commons:Quality images candidates/candidate list#File:2012-09-09_Памятник_затопленным_кораблям_в_Севастополе_(1).jpg. --Art-top (talk) 14:08, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

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