User talk:AtonX/2006

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Image:Dusan Rapos.jpg[edit]

Hello, you tagged this as a copyvio. Please provide a link or other information which leads you to believe this is the case. Admins can't read minds! :) Thanks, pfctdayelise (translate?) 01:59, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Also Image:ZMartináková.JPG. pfctdayelise (translate?) 03:09, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Language neutral form in Image:Pirámide de población de España (2005).png[edit]

Hello, I have seen that you have marked that that image should be converted to a neutral language form. I was thinking of making an english version of that file, but I don't think it's possible to do a strict "neutral language form" for that file, because there are some data inside that compulsorily have to be in any language, such as the words "Spain", "Groups of age", "Source", etc... There's the same consideration with Image:Escaños congreso de España 1977-2004.png. Yours sincerely, --Rodriguillo 23:35, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

  • Hi. The legend need not be inside the picture, it can be written separately, on the description page. Thus anybody could use the image, translate the legend into their language and include it in the caption text. --AtonX 23:41, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
I don't really agree with that point of view: I think that it's really important to see in the interior of the image what you are talking about, and so not needing to click over the image to read the legend. If you cannot write anything on the image, you loose a lot of graphical information: isn't it clearer to read "Groups of age" vertically in the image than having to find in the legend a description such as "On the left it's written the groups of age"? Do I have to start finding if the pyramid age is about Spain or about Germany, instead of reading it clearly in the title on the top of the image? I don't think it's possible to write a "neutral language form" for this kind of files. If you want, I don't have any problem to translate the graphics to english or slovack (if you say me how is the translation :P, of course). --Rodriguillo 02:08, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Language neutral map??[edit]

You recently tagged a map of mine with the "language neutral" template. Ignoring for a moment that this was an SVG map, I believe this template is a bit silly when applied to a map.

This template simply means that that map contains words. You can't have a "language neutral" map without having a "word-free" map. But all maps should contain words, if nothing else than to label countries, cities, rivers, or any geographic feature. There are, as well, more complex maps that show changes, such as changes of elevation, borders, and rulers, or show movement (e.g. of peoples, languages, armies).

As a very basic example, all maps should have a scale. This one contains a scale in both kilometres and miles, but one needs to actually write those words in some language on the scale. It is impossible for a caption to contain all the necessary information.

Thanks, MapMaster 15:28, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Category:Heraldic figures[edit]


I've seen a part of your great work categorising heraldic figures. Please remember that, when you create a new subcategory of heraldic figures, this can be a subcategory of teh category of depictions of the object. Thus, Category:Tools in heraldry is a subcategory of Category:Tools, so that anyone looking for depictions of tools in the above category can also find images of tools in arms. --user:Erri4a User talk:Erri4a es:discusión usuario:erri4a 00:07, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Often, there is a more specific category, sort of Xs in art. So I've placed Category:Trees in heraldry under Category:Trees in art. If we do this ending the code with |Heraldry (like [[:Category:Trees in art|Heraldry]]), the system will sort it under the letter H in the upper category.--user:Erri4a User talk:Erri4a es:discusión usuario:erri4a 00:14, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

  • Yes that's true, I will do that. Thank you. --AtonX 11:04, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

...and ordinaries ?=[edit]

Hi ! I have also seen you great work. I think it is a goos idea to categorize all heraldic figures this way. I will help you when I can. Do youy think it could be also helpful to categorize the ordinaries, and even the divisions of the field ? If you think it is a good idea, I will create categories, and begin to categorize coat of arms within. Bye ! Orror 19:37, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

  • This is a lot of work, but it can be done, I am however not convinced about its usefullnes. We would have a few categories, with a lot of images in each, e.g. a category all coats-of-arms with a bend? --AtonX 13:08, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
Well, I don't think this is more work than for figures, don't you think ? And I think there is more coat of arms with a lion than with a bend... (within the coat of arms I have hiterto drawn, there is only four with a bend, and nine with a lion...). It can be useful when you want to know the different ways a ordinary has been drawn (for exemple, I and another user were looking for coat of arms with two bars and three figures to see their relative positions). And I don't know if it is more useful to see all the arms with a dog figured than those that are checky. Well, maybe I will create categories as I upload new coat of arms. Orror 15:19, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Image:Relative scale unlabeled.svg[edit]

Thank you for the legend fix. It looks a lot cleaner now. Fvasconcellos 16:25, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

How to convert to international 'Cambio de estado.png'[edit]

You tagged Image:Cambio de estado.png as requiring a conversion to a language neutral form. However i don't see how this could be converted, as the image value is precisely the diagram: the boxes and transitions, intended to make the phase transitions clearer. Taking the text away of the image would lost its value i think. I can only think in improving the language by SVging it (so it's very easy to change the text), but not more. What was your idea? Platonides 18:58, 28 November 2006 (UTC)


Hi AtonX - I am new to this stuff and do have troubles with the formatting - can you help? Yotwen 10:28, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Please be more diligent[edit]

You had marked Image:Abstatt Burg Wildeck 04 20061126.jpg as being a duplicate to Image:Abstatt Burg Wildeck 05 20061126.jpg. That was wrong, the pictures are similar, but not exact duplicates. Please look more closely before doing such things. Unfortunately, the admin who looked at duplicates was just as inaccurate as you were, and deleted the image; another admin who looked closer has now restored it. Regards --Rosenzweig 11:27, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

  • Sorry, I don't see a substantial factual or artistic difference whatsoever. --AtonX 12:29, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

SVG of convex function[edit]

You just marked Image:Convex Function.png to be converted to SVG. I like the format very much and I usually support this. But: Here the garph is generated by a sv:R (programspråk)-script and the output is automatically saved as a png file. You can easily reproduce it and change some details. The software is opensource and muliplatform and very mature. It has an extension to create svg-output as well (, but this version is old (but not very mature yet ;) ) and it does not support dashed lines which I use in my graph. So I thought that the png is the best possible version. BTW: the SVG output file is slightly larger then the png. Do you understand what I mean? --Thire 08:25, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

See Image:Convex Function.svg. :) --AtonX 13:38, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
Okay, you insisted. :) Perhaps you want to further impove it, see the discussion at en:User_talk:Oleg_Alexandrov#convex_im. And perhaps you want to add the arrows (x yand y). --Thire 15:17, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
Well, I just wanted to demonstrate how it goes, instead of arguing how it doesn't. :) The image is free for improvements, of course. The arrows (x yand y) are present, in the valid SVG code, it's just the Commons rasteriser, which does not show them. If you open the file directly in your browser, you'll see them (see also Commons:Transition to SVG). --AtonX 15:41, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
I wanted to say, why in this case it's better to keep the .PNG and not the .SVG. But anyway I like your SVG. --Thire 10:23, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

X in heraldry[edit]


I don't understand your comment on my page. I agree about the naming convention in the system of categories of heraldic figures, since it is also the general naming convention in Commons. And, of course, I apply it. --Juiced lemon 17:20, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Merlettes/Martlets in heraldry[edit]

Hi ! You created Category:Merlettes in heraldry. Merlette is a french word. I thought the english word is martlet (see here). If it is the case, the category should be renamed, no ?. Unless you have any information about the existence of the english word merlette. Greetings. Orror 13:15, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Good job, thank you ! Orror 07:06, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Cropped version[edit]

Ok, sorry for the inconvenience. I have just one question, if I do want to upload cropped versions of Flickr images, would I just add the Flickr template and put a note there about it being cropped? --Oakster 13:59, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Inside caption in it language in Image:Old_espaliers_g1.jpg[edit]

Hi, I've seen the template which you have inserted in Image:Old_espaliers_g1.jpg. I've posted a new version without caption in Italian. Is it right now? Thanks --gian_d 20:20, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Hi and thank you! --AtonX 21:30, 16 December 2006 (UTC)


This version looks better... but has smaller size :/ I'd delete the other as soon as ToolServer gets well. A.J. 15:21, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

  • I keep trying to contact the museum and make sure that this picture is not mirrored. A.J. 15:23, 21 December 2006 (UTC)