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File:Crowd assembled in Occidental Square in front the Occidental Hotel for memorial service for President James A Garfield, Seattle (CURTIS 283).jpeg[edit]

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Jmabel ! talk 19:50, 11 September 2018 (UTC)

Changing "depicted place" on material from a GLAM[edit]

Are you sure https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Historic_American_Buildings_Survey,_Arnold_Moses,_Photographer_May_12,_1936,_VIEW_FROM_THE_PARK._-_Block_Houses_(Nos._1_and_2),_Central_(110th_Street)_and_Morningside_Parks_(123rd_HABS_NY,31-NEYO,33-4.tif&diff=321419550&oldid=278667421 is desirable? Usually, on material from GLAMs, we try to leave their descriptions, etc., intact. - Jmabel ! talk 01:51, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

@Jmabel: - The reason I made the change was that the original page was registering New York; New York County; New York and Category:New York; New York County; New York as redlinks on Special:WantedPages; and of course, it wasn't automatically linking to en:New York City. I can definitely understand wanting to make sure none of the imported information is lost, but when we can make improvements to the pages without losing any information it seems like we should do that - this is a wiki, after all. I didn't know anything about any standard practices for these kinds of images. BMacZero (talk) 06:21, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
I certainly see your point. Perhaps we should take this to a broader forum? It seems we have two valid principles in contradiction, and I honestly don't know how they are best resolved. - Jmabel ! talk 15:43, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
@Jmabel: Sure. I started a COM:VP thread. BMacZero (talk) 16:48, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
Perfect. I'll have a look next time I look in there. - Jmabel ! talk 23:26, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

Asahel Curtis photos from University of Washington Library[edit]

Not that you could have been expected to have known or to have done anything about it, but those Asahel Curtis photos you uploaded from University of Washington Library were very incompetently curated by someone at the library. Some dates clearly off by years (I can tell from what buildings exist, or the state of a regrade of land), locations off by miles (e.g. a picture of the construction of the Montlake Cut misidentified as being the construction of the Hiram M. Chittenden Locks), confusion of the two different Rainier breweries, not to mention things like using the original, briefly-used name of a still-extant early 20th-century building and not mentioning a different name that has now been used for over a century, etc. Worst supposedly professional curation of a set of photos I've ever seen. I've been sending the library a correction or addition on roughly one out of five of these, and even that's been with restraint on my part. - Jmabel ! talk 01:07, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

@Jmabel: That's a shame. At least you can help fix that. I stopped adding to-check categories to the images since I didn't think they were useful; I could go back through and add a check category to the ones you haven't edited yet if that would help. BMacZero (talk) 17:11, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
Probably would. I've just been going through Category:Seattle rather than the to-check category, but it's an unusually slow slog because the error rate is so high. I can't really trust anything there, so I'm probably only getting through 5 to 20 a day. I'm really lucky that ex-Wikimedians Benjamin Lukoff and Rob Ketcherside (both of whom left to write books on Seattle history, and Rob went on to serve several years on the city landmarks commission) have been willing to "play backup" and confirm when I'm at all in doubt. Rob even further researched a few of these where he wasn't sure either. - Jmabel ! talk 19:16, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
@Jmabel: Category:Images from the Asahel Curtis Photo Company Photographs Collection to check is being populated with all photos from that collection that you haven't edited yet. BMacZero (talk) 03:47, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
Thanks! - Jmabel ! talk 03:51, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

Broken link[edit]

File:Bolcom Mills offices, lumber and shingle mills, 1540 NW 46th St, Ballard district, Seattle (CURTIS 1738).jpeg: Source link is broken. Also, it refers to being part of a panorama with something else, but I can't find the other photo. - Jmabel ! talk 04:13, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

@Jmabel: The Accession Number and Source links on that file work okay for me here. I think you're right about the panorama, it doesn't look like it matches up with any of the other Bolcom Mills images. BMacZero (talk) 17:02, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
Working for me now, too, must have been a problem on the UW site. Still, what do you think we should do about the pano thing? - Jmabel ! talk 23:13, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
@Jmabel: The description (even the identifying numbers in it) is identical to the one for File:Bolcom Mills, Ballard district, Seattle (CURTIS 1740).jpeg, which clearly is a panorama, so I think the description for that file got inadvertently copied or reused for this one. Therefore the description on File:Bolcom Mills offices, lumber and shingle mills, 1540 NW 46th St, Ballard district, Seattle (CURTIS 1738).jpeg is probably just entirely wrong. BMacZero (talk) 04:47, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
Thanks, I've emailed them to let them know. This keeps being the highest ratio of problems I've ever had in a set like this from a GLAM. I've stopped even informing them of mere obvious typos, because I'm still sending multiple emails per day with corrections. - Jmabel ! talk 16:45, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

Attributions to Frank Nowell[edit]

On images like File:Architectural rendering of the Arctic Brotherhood Building, Alaska Yukon Pacific Exposition, Seattle, 1908 (AYP 286).jpeg, why do we have {{Creator:Frank H. Nowell}}? Nowell was a photographer (the official photographer of the A-Y-P Exposition) and certainly did not do these architectural drawings. - Jmabel ! talk 05:00, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

Again, all this data just comes straight from what the University of Washington says, and they identify Nowell as the author of that image. I guess I'll have to run back over these again and mark the ones that look like photographs of artwork for a manual author check. Hopefully I can do that tonight. BMacZero (talk) 19:05, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
@Jmabel: Forgot to ping. BMacZero (talk) 19:57, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
OK. I guess there's nothing to do easily about importing some bad data like that. Pain in the butt, though. - Jmabel ! talk 00:25, 8 November 2018 (UTC)