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Wordsmith and Scientology involvement[edit]

You previously commented in a community appeal by Sfarney and disagreed with characterizations of Wordsmith as being involved. Evidence has since been found shedding further light on this matter. Would you review Sfarney's latest appeal and comment on whether you believe the new evidence on Wordsmith changes your opinion on whether he is involved regarding Scientology? Not all evidence has been made public per Wikipedia's outing policy, but I can confirm the claims made in the appeal are an accurate reflection of said evidence.--The Devil's Advocate (talk) 20:21, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

In general, please do not contact me in regard to previous disputes, sanctions, blocks and bans involving other editors. I am attempting to keep my involvement with Wikipedia and Commons on the level of creating, editing and uploading content, and trying to stay out of meta-discussions of all kinds. I hope in this way to avoid avoid disputes, and having my name brought to ANI every couple of weeks, therefore to make my Wikipedia experience more rewarding and less aggravating than it has been in the recent past. Thanks. Beyond My Ken (talk) 23:28, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
Okay. I get that.--The Devil's Advocate (talk) 05:10, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

Grey Towers National Historic Site[edit]

Thanks for taking the great pictures. The mansion is open thru Halloween, and I hope to visit before then. == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 00:05, 12 September 2016 (UTC)

Glad you liked them. I wish I had had some more time there, but I was pretty rushed that day. Beyond My Ken (talk) 18:33, 12 September 2016 (UTC)

Warning[edit]

Hi, you must stop your uncivil behaviour against e.g. Storkk and User:Ellin Beltz now. Jcb (talk) 02:03, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

Yes, I forgot my "Personal Prescription" #8. Rest assured, I will do my best not to "speak truth to power" to Commons admins again. Beyond My Ken (talk) 02:08, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

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Categorisation[edit]

Cross-categorised (one is sub of the other, so cat is grand-child of itself) are:

Maybe I should create a maintenance page in Commons: namespace to list all the cats instead of categorising them in Category:Categories which are children or grand-children of themselves which had been created 3 years ago but was populated poorly by now. Have a nice day and a merry xmas! --Achim (talk) 07:33, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

There is a distinct difference between "cross-categorization" and father/child categorizing. Not allowing cross-categorization makes the category system much less useful to the user. Beyond My Ken (talk) 14:59, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

w:Cresting (architecture)[edit]

Greetings! I thought you might get a kick out of my use of your photo at w:Cresting (architecture). Cheers! BD2412 T 14:59, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

Hey, thanks, I appreciate your letting me know! Beyond My Ken (talk) 04:06, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

File:Shirleytemple young.jpg[edit]

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Jcb (talk) 21:56, 28 January 2017 (UTC)

Inappropriate?[edit]

Why? Seems very appropriate to me specifically for a building image such as this. Ww2censor (talk) 20:42, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

Debris at Irvington[edit]

I've been meaning to ask you about this for a long time; Are you sure many of the images titled "Debris at Irvington" after Hurricane Sandy belong in the Category:Irvington (Metro-North station)? They look like they were a little too far north to be from the station itself. ----DanTD (talk) 15:02, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

Did I put them there, I can't recall? They are definitely north of the station, and probably past Matthiessen Park, since there's no tall fence on the river side. If that's true, it would put them about 2/10s of a mile north of the station. Still in Irvington, though. Beyond My Ken (talk) 04:26, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

File:Lenin portrait crop.jpg[edit]

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Яй (talk) 07:51, 4 March 2017 (UTC)

Have fun diminishing the repository of historically important images. Beyond My Ken (talk) 14:20, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
I didn't get a chance to see this one, but it's of someone for whom there are many pictures. My own File:MS Surface Pro 4 beige B&H jeh.jpg got cut a few days ago. Fighting for it would have been difficult and uncertain; might as well let it go and maybe I'll replace it with a more careful pic of the same model computer. Jim.henderson (talk) 01:57, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

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24.96.53.202 15:48, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

Replaced with PD version from LoC. Beyond My Ken (talk) 19:28, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

Category:St._Mark's_Church_in-the-Bowery[edit]

Drbones1950 (talk) 21:28, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

Category:Saint_Mark's_Church-in-the-Bowery[edit]

Drbones1950 (talk) 21:30, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

Re:[edit]

See [1] . --Grabado (talk) 20:40, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

There was no consensus reached at that discussion, You jumped on a lack of response as being a consensus -- it wasn't. Now please undo your errant categorization or I shall do it for you. Beyond My Ken (talk) 22:05, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
I would appreciate if you could read the reply I've just given to another user regarding one of my edits. I'm not going to undo any "errant categorization" since there's no errant categorization. If you consider my edits are wrong, please explain it first in the Village pump. I'll stop making any changes until further discussion if you want, but please don't undo my edits until you explain why are they wrong. Thanks --Grabado (talk) 06:45, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
Sorry, but no. I'm not going to get involved in your insanity, I'll simply undo them back to what they were, since you refuse tyo do so. Beyond My Ken (talk) 08:08, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
Wait a minute. I'll start a discussion in VP. --Grabado (talk) 08:09, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
Done. Thanks for your patience. --Grabado (talk) 08:42, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

Category:Photographs of LGBT pride flags[edit]

Category:Photographs of LGBT pride flags was added to Category:Location of LGBT pride flags Cathy Richards (talk) 22:01, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

But you've removed the category from images that are not in the second category. Beyond My Ken (talk) 22:04, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

Image without license[edit]

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Hibernia Bank Building (New Orleans)[edit]

Hi. I'm curious as to why the naming move from "Hibernia Bank Building" to "Hibernia Bank Building (New Orleans)"? I don't object to it per se, just wondering if there was some other notable building of that name that needed disambiguation or what? Curious, -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 18:52, 4 July 2017 (UTC)

See Category:Hibernia Bank Building (San Francisco). Beyond My Ken (talk) 21:54, 4 July 2017 (UTC)

Studebaker Buildings in Brooklyn Revisited[edit]

Do you remember when I mentioned a second Studebaker Building in Brooklyn that was not the one in Crown Heights that's a New York City Landmark, and we had that discussion about a rename for the category you created? Well, somebody put the one in Dean Street in your category, and I corrected that editor's mistakes. I think it may be time to rename Category:Studebaker Building (Brooklyn) as Category:Studebaker Building (Crown Heights, Brooklyn). ----DanTD (talk) 03:29, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

✓  Done Beyond My Ken (talk) 03:35, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
Thanks. Although now I think both your category and mine need more images. ----DanTD (talk) 03:38, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
Agreed. Unfortunately, since I moved from the Flatiron District in midtown up to Washington Heights, I don't get out to Brooklyn nearly as often as I once did. Beyond My Ken (talk) 03:58, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

Reversion[edit]

I've reverted all my changes to the previous status quo. I still have not tagged any category for deletion so you can check that all of them are empty if you want. You can see Category:Latin Church. --Grabado (talk) 12:44, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

No, I'll take your word that they are empty. You can probably tag them with "{{speedy delete|creator requests deletion of empty category}}". Beyond My Ken (talk) 10:24, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

Sources[edit]

Hi Beyond My Ken,

I am not sure why you need to have sources in the category description. If you want sources, you can include them in the respective image itself in the description page. Or you can create an individual Wiki article that connects with that category. But the category description text is purely descriptive, not a mini article in itself with sources, notes, etc.. Gryffindor (talk) 10:44, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

Category redirects[edit]

Hi! Why do you redirect categories using both "#REDIRECT [[Category:...]]" and "{{Category redirect|...}}" on the same page (e. g.: Category:William H. Seward statue (Madison Square))? IMHO, the use of a single Template:Category redirect per redirected category page is sufficient (please see en:WP:R#CATEGORY). --Djadjko (talk) 19:51, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

I've explained this numerous times, the one redirect is not sufficient. Please see my archives for an explanation. Beyond My Ken (talk) 20:12, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
[2] Beyond My Ken (talk) 20:15, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

File:Leah Remini in 2014.jpg[edit]

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Columbia_University_Lerner_Hall_interior[edit]

Dear Beyond My Ken,

I am a Prof. in Architectureand I am currently redacting a book titled “History of Interior Design and Furniture” and it will be published in Turkish edition. I would like to use your image from https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:2014_Columbia_University_Lerner_Hall_interior.jpg. Do you prefer us to use your nick name in Wikipedia, or we can use your proper name if you prefer.

Best regards, Mustafa Demirkan mustafaemindemirkan@gmail.com --hippofish 17:53, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

I appreciate your asking me my preference. Please use my Wikipedia account name. When other media outlets have used my images from Commons, I have seen the credit given as "Beyond My Ken/Wikimedia Commons" or something similar. Beyond My Ken (talk) 20:39, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

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LGBT / Gay[edit]

Gay is a subcat of LGBT. Burroughs was bisexual, not gay. Cathy Richards (talk) 15:29, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation. Reverting. Beyond My Ken (talk) 19:39, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

Socks[edit]

I see you have an interest in my socks. Well, the only socks I have are the ones I use to keep my feet warm and cozy and no you can't have them!--The Devil's Advocate (talk) 03:25, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

You are also welcome to identify any of the "misrepresentations, mistruths, and misreporting" you say are in the article and explain how they could be corrected.--The Devil's Advocate (talk) 07:02, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

I'm sorry, this is Commons, not English Wikipedia. Discussions about English Wikipedia should be held on my talk page there. Beyond My Ken (talk) 14:02, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

A little collaboration[edit]

Hi Beyond My Ken,

We would like to use one of your photos (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Haughwout_Building_from_west.jpg) for an online article on architecture. Is it possible by listing you as an original author? We're based in Russia.

Thanks in advance, Pavel

Sure, go ahead. The credit should be "Beyond My Ken/Wikimedia Commons" Beyond My Ken (talk) 00:54, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

Category:Ed Sullivan Theater[edit]

Does Category:Ed Sullivan Theater really belong in Category:Broadway theatre buildings? It's on Broadway, and it's a theater, but it's to my knowledge it's never been a "Broadway theatre", just a TV broadcast facility and occasional concert venue. - Jmabel ! talk 00:54, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

@Jmabel: Yes, it was built as "Hammerstein's Theatre" (not to be confused with the "Hammerstein Ballroom" which was originally "Hammerstein's Manhattan Opera House") for Oscar Hammerstein Sr. in 1925-27. See this. Beyond My Ken (talk) 03:36, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
Cool. Thanks. - Jmabel ! talk 03:57, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Category:Cloud Gate[edit]

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  — Jeff G. ツ 04:09, 2 November 2017 (UTC)

Again, stupidity. Beyond My Ken (talk) 05:29, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
What do you mean by that?   — Jeff G. ツ 05:39, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
I mean that it is exceedingly stupid to crusade to remove from Commons photographs of sculptures commissioned by public entities, paid for by public funds, located on public land, and seen by many thousands of people every single day of the year. I don't give a damn that there's no "Freedom of Panorama" for sculptures in the U.S., what I care about is a total lack of plain common sense in getting rid of these kinds of images. Such robotic thinking, devoid of all sound human judgment is an insult to the many fine editors who attempt to make the Commons the best repository of images it can be, only to be stymied by such idiocy.
That's what I mean. Beyond My Ken (talk) 05:47, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
The sculptor of this sculpture has a US copyright, long supported by federal law and upheld by federal courts. I don't want to see the uploaders of these photos, the WMF, or our reusers sued in federal court for copyright infringement in today's litigious society. Do you?   — Jeff G. ツ 05:28, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
That problem could easily be dealt with, if anyone had any interest in doing so. Beyond My Ken (talk) 05:55, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
How?   — Jeff G. ツ 12:46, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
Change the Creative Commons policy to allow only non-commercial use. Beyond My Ken (talk) 02:09, 6 November 2017 (UTC)
Creative Commons has "NC" (Non-Commercial) licenses. We don't accept files bearing only them. Do you seriously propose we accept only files only bearing them them and throw out our collection of 46,986,663 freely usable media files to which anyone can contribute? Also, do you seriously expect a timely reply if you don't ping me?   — Jeff G. ツ 04:18, 7 November 2017 (UTC)
No, I'm saying that we accept non-FOP images under a CC NC license. I really don;t care about commercial reuse of our images, that's the WMF's bugaboo. Beyond My Ken (talk) 05:05, 7 November 2017 (UTC)
Not just the WMF, the entire movement. Please read https://freedomdefined.org/Licenses/NC.   — Jeff G. ツ 05:21, 7 November 2017 (UTC)

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Fort Washington Avenue subway entrance[edit]

Hello, could you explain this? Vcohen (talk) 05:17, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

What's to explain? The Fort Washington Avenue entrance is on Fort Washington Avenue. Beyond My Ken (talk) 02:54, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
OK. Category:Fort Washington Avenue subway entrance (190th Street station) is in Category:190th Street (IND Eighth Avenue Line), and Category:190th Street (IND Eighth Avenue Line) is already in Category:Fort Washington Avenue (Manhattan). Also, Category:Fort Washington Avenue subway entrance (190th Street station) should be in Category:Fort Tryon Park, because the entrance is in the park. Vcohen (talk) 11:16, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
And did you say that in your edit summary? Beyond My Ken (talk) 21:03, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
I use HotCat, it has no option to leave an edit summary. Do you accept both my edits? Vcohen (talk) 08:15, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
I guess you do. Vcohen (talk) 11:13, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
Yeah, I do. I thought I had posted as such, but I must have neglected to publish it. My mistake. Beyond My Ken (talk) 19:03, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

File:Street book exchange Little Free Library Bennett Park Hudson Heights Manhattan.jpg[edit]

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Idiotic nomination. Beyond My Ken (talk) 01:35, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/File:Street book exchange Little Free Library Bennett Park Hudson Heights Manhattan.jpg[edit]

"It would be helpful if you withdrew your nomination."

I would have, but then I saw https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Street_book_exchange_Little_Free_Library_Bennett_Park_Hudson_Heights_Manhattan.jpg&diff=prev&oldid=300139466. Your edit summary: "Just because YOU got confused doesn;t mean anyone else will. Please don;t change my descriptions without good reason.".

That's just rude. I didn't make your description any worse. I replaced the link to http://littlefreelibrary.org/ with a wikified "Little Free Library". (a change you re-did after you undid my edit) The link has no reason to be there with the wikified "Little Free Library" in place. The same information (including the link to their website) can be found at the Wikipedia article. And it is potentially confusing because https://littlefreelibrary.org/gallery/ has many similar images.

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Only now I came here I noticed your comment above: "Idiotic nomination.". Wow. I have said similar things (and worse), but that has always been in cases that truly were idiotic, not possibly a misunderstanding or confusion of any kind, and I would comment as such on the DR. I take it deescalation is not really your thing? - Alexis Jazz 06:03, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
Well, if you want to wait until your idiotic nomination (which it truly was, as you would realize if you were truthful with yourself) is closed normally, that's your business. My business is improving Commons and Wikipedia -- what's yours? Beyond My Ken (talk) 06:54, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
BTW, I've been here since 2005, have 250,000 edits on en.wiki and 75,000 here, including over 6,000 uploads of my own. I don't need you to tell me how Wikipedia and Commons work. I certainly don't need someone who puts their own hurt feelings above the needs of the project to wag their finger at me. Your nomination was truly a dumb one, so this problem is all of your own making.

Don't respond unless it is to tell me that you've withdrawn the nomination, that's all I'm interested in hearing from you. Beyond My Ken (talk) 07:03, 8 May 2018 (UTC)

File tagging File:Andrew Berman.jpg[edit]

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Ruff tuff cream puff (talk) 16:52, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

Not my upload, I just cleaned it up. Beyond My Ken (talk) 02:02, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

Undetermined architectural style[edit]

I'm trying to sort out the Category:Architecture this morning, and I need some tips from someone who might know better. ----DanTD (talk) 14:14, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

Would you consider this to be Art Nouveau, or some other style?
The NYLPC's "Ladies Mile" designation report calls it "Second Empire". The mansard roof is a pretty good indication of that. Beyond My Ken (talk) 17:46, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
I've tweaked the description of the building on its category page to include that information. Beyond My Ken (talk) 17:51, 20 May 2018 (UTC)