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Just a quick thank you[edit]

for the many great contributions to our "fashion history department". I have been a bit infected by your uploads and have now and then uploaded a couple of files I stumble across on the web. --AndreasPraefcke 17:29, 2 April 2006 (UTC) (And what the hell do the cryptic messages above mean?)

No, of course, I don't mind at all. I am just browsing lots of auction catalogues in order to "save" their images "to posteriority" (pathetically speaking), well, at least making the scans available for more than the few weeks they are usually online. If I upload less than perfect files (which is always possible, given the hundreds of files I'm uploading), I am delighted if someone in the know desribes them better (than the auction catalogue or I could do) and/or is able to enhance the file itself. --AndreasPraefcke 18:18, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Greek fashion[edit]

Reply on my talk page. Let me know what you think -Mak 15:27, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Fix has completed. -Mak 20:23, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Emma[edit]

Thanks for your changes - I'm newbie. Could you have a look also at Image:New-Monthly-Magazine-1816-25-p66-novels-inc-Austen-Emma-detail.jpg? Sorry my English - it's quite

description of Image:Unfassbar1891.png[edit]

Hi Churchh, you reversed the description of Image:Unfassbar1891.png (which I had deleted as POV). I'm fine with explaining something that I don't think viewers of today will understand (even though I'm not sure a viewer needs it in this particular case, but whatever)--I just don't think that your interpretation is the only one feasible. (Or maybe I'm just too removed from the 1890s myself...) That's also why I had deleted it in the first place as I understood the satire differently: Nothing to do with uniforms (or at least not per se), simply pointing out the naïveté of a young sheltered girl who (just admires lieutenants and) has no idea about the true face of a war. (... or something like that--which just underscores my point that there's more than one way to understand this satire.)

... Do you see a way of either convincing me of your reading of the satire or of framing the description in a way that's not as one-sided? :o) --Ibn Battuta 23:32, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

No problem, I would've followed up on it "some day" :o) ... I guess it is not as common on the Commons to continue discussions on whichever page they are, unlike on some national Wikipedias. Sorry. I've now added a respective info on my discussion page! :o) - Anyways, thanks for adding that info... --Ibn Battuta 17:20, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Image:1817-early-rollercoaster Promenades-Aeriennes Le-Bon-Genre.JPG[edit]

Hello,

Well, if you want to create a separate subcategory for French magazines, please do it. Regards, Yann 17:33, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Image:18th-century-anti-sex-education.jpg[edit]

You have an answer to your dating dispute in Image talk:18th-century-anti-sex-education.jpg. --84.20.17.84 13:19, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Haabet's coraline corset stuff[edit]

I cannot see from this image from which date it is. That is why we need the source, if it is not totally obvious, we must be able to confirm whether something is realy PD-Old. -- Bryan (talk to me) 21:49, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Should be ok then. Thanks for the information, -- Bryan (talk to me) 22:07, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/20th_century_Models --haabet 06:02, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Pernambuco/Olinda[edit]

The higher resolution image was my first choice when I created the coat. Then, I thought it was too large and made it smaller, but it have compromised the quality. Also, the source I used to make this coat says it is of a city, but it was wrong. It is in fact the coat of arms of the entire Pernambuco province. Emerson

Angr[edit]

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1835-Gazette-de-Salons-fashionplate.png[edit]

ALL fur clothings are in the Category fur coats. My English is not very good and I am angry to create new categories. Can you name a category, where the fur boa will be right? You can do it here, I will do the rest. Thank you!--Kürschner (talk) 19:39, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

File:Eugenie2 ArM.JPG[edit]

Hallo Churchh,

File:Eugenie2 ArM.JPG ist ein Bild, um dessen Verbesserung in der deutschen Bilderwerkstatt gebeten wurde. Solltest Du meinen, dass Deine Bearbeitung eine weitere Verbesserung darstellt, so lade Deine Version unter neuem Namen hoch, weil wir in der Bilderwerkstatt Wert darauf legen, dass zu Vergleichswecken alle Bearbeitungen erhalten werden sollten.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen

ArtMechanic (talk) 19:27, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Mistaken category[edit]

Thank you. Would you say there is room for a category such as French mode magazines ? --Anne97432 (talk) 07:13, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

more English[edit]

Yes, I suppose so. I was thinking in terms of French "Mode" magazines, as a subcategory of fashion magazines--Anne97432 (talk) 07:19, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

OK. --Anne97432 (talk) 07:38, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Area for User:Haabet's "contributions" only (everybody else, please add comments above this line)[edit]

The fashion normal change one to four times of one years - unsigned comment by Haabet 15:03, 8 January 2006

"vandalism"[sic][edit]

I have big difficultys because you change the Categorys as the images been hard to find.haabet 21:49, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

Your make vandalism as I can not fin that images as I have need of.—haabet 21:53, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

Brasier[edit]

1884 1868 - unsigned comment by Haabet 09:44, 11 March 2006

sources wanted[edit]

eveningwear? daywear? eveningwear? daywear?, I do see that in the book. I think as eveningwear and daywear is a invention from a other era. And eveningwear was normally longer as daywear. Can your delete or substantiate? —haabet 21:55, 7 May 2006 (UTC) Mourning clothes? Mourning clothes? The Mourning clothes was in olddays back and have veil and was discreet.—haabet 22:04, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Source of Images[edit]

I have need of the title of your books and if the titel is commen: titel and author of your books.haabet 20:38, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Category?[edit]

Categorys?

why this image have these Categorys? Category:1880s fashion Category:Fashion in 1882 haabet 11:29, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

?[edit]

underwear? underwear?

Tightlacing[edit]

Can you help me by the page Tightlacing? please! haabet 20:27, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Images to you[edit]

--Haabet 22:22, 29 July 2006

Thanks, but only Image:Emmpirecostum_imJahre1900Korperumrisse.gif was of more than very marginal interest to me. I was somewhat fascinated by Image:Empirecostum_imJahre1800.gif because it has very clear infomation about clothing of the 1795-1820 period (which is one of my actual main interests), and I'm planning on using it in a slightly different form in an actual Wikipedia article. Thanks for uploading Image:Empirecostum_imJahre1800.gif, Haabet! Churchh 02:00, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

more haabet 17:31, 14 October 2006 (UTC) http://fr.wikisource.org/wiki/Grands_Magasins_de_la_Samaritaine_-_Salon_d%E2%80%99%C3%A9t%C3%A9_1886

two identical images[edit]

thumb|Gamma 55thumb|Gamma 0

images[edit]

Image:USpatent494397a1893.png Image:USpatent494397b1893.png haabet 23:09, 8 January 2007 (UTC) bad ;-). Gytha 13:02, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Good to English[edit]

It is fine as you are good to English. I think your always gets good marks in the school. But Common is not a exercise. You use word as "contrict" what has been used 803 time on the whole english internet.

I tink as many people who have English as native language, do not understand you perfect. Often my dictionary do not know your words. haabet 21:15, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

is this book PD?[edit]

Image:CorsetLeonJulesRAINAL_Freres.png

--haabet 09:13, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Image to you[edit]

Teufel'sBrusthalterDiana1911.jpg --haabet 18:20, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Ankles[edit]

Ankle‎s was sexy in victorian era, can you write about that?--haabet 06:02, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

The better-named categories wanted[edit]

I have need of the name of the secret better-named categories, for Victorian porno!--haabet 20:52, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Grey scale[edit]

wikimedia like grey scale 255 colours, and do not like 2 to 254 colours.haabet 17:49, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

19th century men's fashion[edit]

Good day. Commons has an image File:Abraham Lincoln aged 27.jpg which claims to be a photo of young Abraham Lincoln, circa age 27 (ie, late 1830s!). I'm no particular expert on either the history of photography nor fashion, but have worked with enough historic material to form the opinion that it looks to me very much of the late rather than early 19th century on both counts (if not even slightly later). The uploader has questioned my opinion. I would appreciate it if you could give the benefit of your expertise to take a look at it and if you have any observations on relevant fashion chronology, please comment at File_talk:Abraham_Lincoln_aged_27.jpg. Thanks much. Cheers, Infrogmation (talk) 18:54, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. Cheers, Infrogmation (talk) 22:21, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

File:Hemline (skirt height) overview chart 1805-2005.svg[edit]

Hi, this is a neat graph, but it appears to be entirely original to you. Is it based on anything I can cite? I'd like to use it in an article, but there's nothing published to cite. Is Wikipedia the first place this has been published? Even the source of the data would be OK if you have a citation for it. Green Cardamom (talk) 22:16, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

File:Pride & Prejudice London Bus.jpg[edit]

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Masem (talk) 05:02, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

File:Elderlyspinnera.jpg[edit]

Hello Churchh. I nominated the above image to FP status in he.wiki, and I added in the image's description the note that you wrote in this edit. There was a question there about what was the source for the note. Can you clarify it up? Tomer T (talk) 23:22, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

What sources do you use?[edit]

Hi, I noticed that you are adding information to descriptions of several paintings. For instance, you added to File:Louis Haghe Der erste Disput.jpg "Both the man and woman tear up old letters or love notes as they confront each other, while each is supported by a servant." When I checked the source this text was not there. What sources do you use for all this detailed information? Jan Arkesteijn (talk) 18:03, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

It's just a habit I have of adding information that would have been obvious to people who saw an image around the time that it was first painted/published, but might be much less apparent to most people today. The fact that the far-left man and far-right woman (with apron and cap) are servants is obvious from their clothing (as contrasted with the center couple), and what small pieces of paper would a couple having their first lovers' tiff ostentatiously discard in the sight of each other besides torn-up past written avowals of love? -- Churchh (talk) 04:56, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
As for the comment I left on File:Lenoir, Charles-Amable - The Seamstress.jpg, mob-caps were worn by servants, and by "genteel" women wearing unfancy clothes around the house in the mornings and early afternoons (often while trying to keep warm in a not very well heated house), while low necklines were associated more with formal social events, especially in the evenings. So wearing a mob cap together with a dress with a very low neckline creates a certain dissonance. Churchh (talk) 05:58, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
Do I understand it correctly, that your additions are not based on actual sources but are your personal observations? How can readers rely on the validity of these notes? Wikipedia:No original research applies for the textual elements on Wikimedia, if I am not mistaken. Jan Arkesteijn (talk) 09:56, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
It's based on my general knowledge in this one area being much greater than the average random 21st century person's knowledge. I examined plenty of sources when I was assembling web-pages like http://www.pemberley.com/janeinfo/rgnclfil.html or http://www.pemberley.com/janeinfo/brablets.html (among others) or scanning in the various images which you can see on the first few years of my Commons upload history. It didn't give me any historian's credentials or qualifications in art criticism, but gave me knowledge of the meaning of clothing in various social contexts, and knowledge of certain social customs and conventions of etiquette, which historians and art critics often don't bother with, but which can be important when trying to understand images in something of the same way as the first viewers at the time did. A lot of the time when you view a medieval or ancient image, you can admire the beautiful craftwork and general visual appearance, but you really don't know what the meaning or purpose of the image was to people at the time, and you're left with a somewhat empty admiration of superficial externals only. I can't do much about medieval or ancient times, but I can do quite a bit with aspects of 18th-century and 19th-century northern/western Europe. The explanations are based on information from the period, but not usually on specific sources that I consult when writing the explanations. Take a look at File:Unfassbar1891.png. There's no one "source" you could consult to write that explanation (it has to be based on your knowledge of the society and social customs of the period), yet very few people in 2012 would understand the meaning of the joke without the explanation.
IN any event, the "No Original Research" policy is on English Wikipedia, not Wikimedia Commons. Churchh (talk) 18:49, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

Village Pump discussion[edit]

I thought you'd want to be aware of this Village Pump discussion. Thanks, cmadler (talk) 19:13, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

I was going to do that, but I was called away. Thanks anyway. Jan Arkesteijn (talk) 20:39, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Stretchit[edit]

You've uploaded this:

Strechit ca1800-1810 non-sidesaddle sailor caricature.jpg

Do you know if the town of "Stretchit" really exists or was it invented for the cartoon? Basemetal (talk) 03:04, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

You think it was invented for the cartoon. Historically the real title of the cartoon is "An Enquiry after Stretchit in Gloucestershire or the Sailors Reply" (version from the Royal Museum Greenwich, version from the British Museum). Now if it was made up, the connection to Gloucestershire must also be made up. But then the question arises: Why Gloucestershire? Basemetal (talk) 09:24, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Lady Warwick[edit]

I really don't know about the lady, it was just the name they gave the image in Europeana: Lady Strachan and Lady Warwick making love in a park, while. --ecelan (talk) 18:44, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

Regency revival genre paintings[edit]

I'm glad you like the new category! I was planning to drop you a note about it. I have searched for paintings and illustrations to add but I'm sure you'll have more. I moved quite a few from the Rococo revival paintings category but I may have missed some. Have a great weekend! Laura1822 (talk) 14:30, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

We were apparently cross-posting; I added a response to you on my talk page. Laura1822 (talk) 14:53, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

File source is not properly indicated: File:Bains de Mer.jpg[edit]

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Soulacroix painting[edit]

File:Frédéric Soulacroix An elegant maid.jpg is a great example (possibly the most egregious ever?) of Victorian silhouette/corsetry in a rococo revival painting. If it amuses you, maybe you could write a little description for it. Enjoy! Laura1822 (talk) 14:37, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

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