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Regrading Amrita rao Uploading pic[edit]

I upload this pic https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Jjs_show.jpg ticket link (https://ticket.wikimedia.org/otrs/index.pl?Action=AgentTicketZoom&TicketNumber=2016021810025568) and https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:EMRALD_GEMFIELDS_OPTION_copy.jpg Ticket link (https://ticket.wikimedia.org/otrs/index.pl?Action=AgentTicketZoom&TicketNumber=2016021810025871) I gave written permission letter..can you please provide me soft copy of what type of permission or licensee you want hemalove (talk) 13:08, 27 february 2016 (UTC)

Imagens[edit]

Estão pondo minhas fotos para eliminação. Foto da igreja antiga de Brumado, Praça Armindo Azevedo em Brumado, e outras fotos antigas, porém as imagens são livre para uso em qualquer página, ou trabalho, desde que cite a fonte e a fonte já está citada, mas eu não sei como tirar aquele formulário onde diz :"Eu, titular de tal imagem e blablablá...."; quando vou carregar as imagen não dá uma opção de mostrar de imediato onde está a permissão e quando procuro uma opção dizendo que está em algum sítio da net, vem um monte de porém muito complicado. As imagens são permitidas.

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2804:7F2:280:DC77:F110:5E22:68C3:FE03 03:54, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

Structured Data on Commons IRC Office Hour, Tuesday 26 June[edit]

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Peixoto Correia[edit]

Olá. Será possível veres se está tudo bem com isto ? Abraço --João Carvalho (talk) 21:32, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

@João Carvalho: Parece-me que sim, apenas a data estava com o dia de hoje, alterei para 1950s / 1960s, que me parece sre a data aproximada. Abraço, -- Darwin Ahoy! 21:58, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

your moves of categories[edit]

@DarwIn:Please would you discuss these moves of yours. Eddaido (talk) 01:48, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

@Eddaido: I don't believe there is much to discuss there. Carriages may be drawn by a number of different animals, such as mules, donkeys and oxen - even zebras. They can also be drawn by men- and the vehicle is exactly the same. You should never have moved those categories as if carriages were exclusive to horses, which is absurd. Now they will have to be moved back, all of them.-- Darwin Ahoy! 01:51, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
It is very nice of you to deign to respond! There is everything to discuss. Eddaido (talk) 01:54, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
@Eddaido: Then tell me what is there to discuss. The vehicle is independent of the animal that makes it move. Today it can be horses, tomorrow zebras, the next day mules. What was your idea? It's absurd to think that only horses draw carriages.-- Darwin Ahoy! 01:56, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
There are your incorrect identifications, there is fitting in of your chosen categories with the general scheme of Commons. Your actions in the last few minutes have startled me. Mules have for the moment been lumped with horses because so many photographers cannot tell the difference or do not know there is a difference - similar with donkeys(!). They can all be sorted out from within the horses category at a later stage. If you just followed a little further along my couple of months of work you would see the 1000's of other recategorisatons to human-drawn etc I have made. Please do not disrupt like this when you have been asked so many times to at least participate in a discussion. If this is your way to begin one I'd be grateful if you would consider there are some others editors who may care at least as much as you do about animal transport and associated subjects. I'm going to take time off now but are you prepared to have a straightforward discussion about the categorisation of animal transport? If so can't do it right now but in any case would you please just hold fire. Thanks Eddaido (talk) 02:09, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
@Eddaido: I'm sorry, but I understand your moves were clearly incorrect, and I contest them, and I do plan to move them gradually into the status quo. Please discuss the category changes before proceeding further, as is the proper way. In the meantime, it's unconceivable that vehicles drawn by a variety of different animals are all lumped together under horses because you can't tell the difference between a horse and a donkey (!!!).-- Darwin Ahoy! 02:16, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
@Eddaido: I really wonder what was your idea, from every side I look at it it comes out as plainly absurd. You basically destroyed all the organization that was there and worked perfectly for ages in favor of some absurdity, which is at the same time a more complex designation, and completely out of logic. How could you think that "carriage" and "horse-drawn carriage" is the same thing?-- Darwin Ahoy! 02:22, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
I should not be spending this time on this matter right now. Please don't repeat what I say above as if I meant the exact opposite and — please lighten up!
Back another day. Eddaido (talk) 12:19, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
@Eddaido: This is why your moves were plainly wrong, and will have to be all reverted.-- Darwin Ahoy! 19:27, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

You don't think it is necessary to qualify the word carriage to indicate the intended content of the category?[edit]

Yes (in haste) I see what you mean and I agree with you but you do seem to ignore (again) what I have told you above. I quote from above "Mules have for the moment been lumped with horses because so many photographers cannot tell the difference or do not know there is a difference - similar with donkeys(!). They can all be sorted out from within the horses category at a later stage."

Mules and donkeys are common, zebras for carriages are magnificently exotic. Perhaps the zebras can just go under animal-drawn carriages until Commons has a real pile of their images.

Why do you turn these things upside down?

If it isn’t your mother-tongue you are very expert with English. You are highly knowledgeable about horse-drawn carriages.

A ‘’horse-drawn carriage’’ is a carriage that might be drawn by a horse or horses. It is distinct from a carriage intended to be drawn by a steam locomotive or a TGV. But less distinct from one drawn by mules or donkeys

You don't think it is necessary to qualify the word carriage to indicate the intended content of the category?

(Incidentally my dictionary provides the compounds: Carriage-beast; carriage-bullock and carriage cattle.)

My dictionary gives these meanings for ‘’’carriage’’’:

would there ever be mules at the other end of this vehicle?
  • I The action of carrying
1. carrying or bearing from one place to another, conveyance
2. conveyance of merchandise
3. (obsolete) an impost on the transport of goods
4. (obsolete) a service by a tenant to a landlord
5. the price or cost of carrying
6. the ability or capacity for carrying
7. arithmetic
8. (obsolete) bearing course or direction
9. the seizure of a fortress
10. the action of managing etc.
11. the carrying o(f a motion)
  • II Manner of carrying, conduct or behaviour
12. manner of carrying anything - by hand or on the body
13. manner of carrying the body, mien
14. conduct, deportment, behaviour
15. conduct, behaviour relating to morals
16. an action, proceeding or piece of conduct
17. (obsolete)
  • III That which is carried
18. a burden or load
19. baggage
20. (obsolete)
21. (obsolete)
  • IV Means of carrying
22. (obsolete)
23. a wheel carriage - a vehicle or means of conveyance
24. (archaic)
25. A wheeled vehicle for conveying persons as distinct from one for the transport of goods. hackney-carriage, railway-carriage, travelling-carriage, etc.: see the first element.
26. A wheeled vehicle kept for private use for driving, especially an elegant four-wheeled vehicle having accommodation for four persons inside and drawn by two or more horses
27. Gun-carriage
28. Carriage-building - the wheeled framework which supports the body of a coach or similar vehicle
29. various mechanical contrivances which move and carry part of a machine
30. (obsolete)
31. (obsolete)
32. Bearing - e.g. in architecture (- one element of a building carried by another)
33. portage

Compounds: reports 43 compounds
Derivatives: lots more

  • Recent:
Carriage release. the lever or facility allowing a typewriter carriage to move freely
Carriage return. a mechanism or key in a typewriter . . . .
A character that indicates the beginning of a new line within a page of formatted text

In view of all this do you still hold fast to your opinions?

Hurriedly, Regards, Eddaido (talk) 03:40, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

@Eddaido: Easy question: If you don't know what animal is pushing the carriage, why do you moved the carriages to horse drawn carriages? If you don't know the colour of a car, why do you move everything to "red cars"? It's not only illogical, it's misleading, and completely necessary, as the word "carriage" was serving its purpose perfectly well.-- Darwin Ahoy! 11:06, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
@DarwIn: Hi Darwin, I still have the uneasy feeling from you that you are inside out or looking at a mirror image or something. Do you remember this: "Mules have for the moment been lumped with horses because so many photographers cannot tell the difference or do not know there is a difference - similar with donkeys(!). They can all be sorted out from within the horses category at a later stage."?
Could this word necessary from you be a Freudian slip? You say in your last paragraph above "it's misleading, and completely necessary" where one would expect you to write unnecessary?
Sorry I have been distracted for some days, I regret the delay. Regards, Eddaido (talk) 09:20, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
That's precisely because sometimes it's difficult to tell mules from horses (though not to a trained eye, I believe), that those vehicles could never be lumped together under "horse-drawn carriages". I know for a fact that mules are a preferred power force in Portugal for pulling carriages, it should be quite rare that that job is performed by an horse, which is more expensive to keep (and less fit for the job, apparently). Should we lump everything together under "mule-drawn carriages", then?-- Darwin Ahoy! 15:41, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
That's right. I see no good reason not to lump all the Portuguese vehicles under the mule-drawn category until some enlightened editor sorts them out. Would Portuguese Royalty have used mules too? I'm well aware many South American countries use or used a lot of mules not to mention south-west US stagecoaches. I expect there will be differences in harnesses for mules but is there any difference in the actual vehicle? It has always been my intention that this mix should be temporary. I haven't finished the job-as-I-see-it. I lost most of my impetus a month or so ago, partly because no-one else was interested and partly for other non-WP reasons.
If I have made my point with my dictionary extract above please would you remove it or archive it. Its ugly. I didn't know of your latest response and I regret my delay in checking.
Can I outline my proposals for animal-powered transport to you as a prelude to putting them up for discussion — should you think that is necessary - I'm afraid it would suffer from lack of interest. Regards, Eddaido (talk) 01:32, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
@Eddaido: I myself can tell a mule from an horse (and even more from a donkey) with some easiness, and I expect others are able to do that as well. The vehicles are exactly the same, as far as I know - that's why they can never been sorted out by type of animal power.-- Darwin Ahoy! 01:37, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
That's good. Would a Portuguese nobleman attend a state occasion in a carriage drawn by mules? Eddaido (talk) 01:42, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
Why not?-- Darwin Ahoy! 11:43, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
Ha ha, let me rephrase that question. Did Portuguese noblemen usually attend state occasions in carriages drawn by mules? (2) Is it fair to record in Wikipedia that mules were primarily built and used by the Iberian nations and their colonies / former colonies in Latin America? Eddaido (talk) 01:53, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
Deadwood Mail Coach built 1863.jpg
In the image on the right the Deadwood Stage equipage incorporated extra wind-resistance but there was no remark from the caption writer.
what are these animals?
What draws the stagecoach at the left?
Doris chose horses: Deadwood Stage but you will have to be quick to see them at the very beginning. Eddaido (talk) 06:03, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

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Affected:

And also:

Yours sincerely, Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 17:02, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

Análises[edit]

Olá DarwIn, por-favor, poderia realizar uma análise de todos os carregamentos desta usuária, que há tempos vem fazendo cross wiki-spam. Cheguei a propor alguns ficheiros para eliminação, mas até agora não foram eliminados. Alguns ficheiros são óbvias violações, este por exemplo. Conde Edmond Dantès (talk) 09:07, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

Acrescentando, poderia analisar os carregamentos usuário, apesar de alguns serem válidos, outros são questionáveis. Por exemplo, esta assinatura publicada como domínio público, sendo que no sítio oficial, que segundo o carregador foi a origem, está protegido com todos os direitos reservados. Além do mais, a maior parte dos ficheiros aparentam ser capturas de ecrãs, que apesar de serem permitidas no Wikipédia, não é válida quando trata-se de pessoas vivas, não sei se o Commons permite. Conde Edmond Dantès (talk) 09:33, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
@Conde Edmond Dantès: Do primeiro caso apaguei praticamente tudo. No segundo é mais complexo, a assinatura pode ser PD, e é necessário ver se os uploads não são violações de copyright carregadas aqui através de flickrwashing. Em ambos os casos deve enviar para DR.-- Darwin Ahoy! 11:19, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
Nesses casos de flickrwashing seria carregar fotos sem licenças como licenças aceitas pelo commons visando o carregamento destas aqui? Se for isso, queria levantar este caso. Recentemente constatei uma série de violações por parte deste usuário, envolvendo falsificações de referências e fontes em mais de uma Wikipédia. Por isso e o uso de vários fantoches, terminou travado globalmente. O ponto que questiono é esses carregamentos via Flickr. Por exemplo, este ficheiro é encontrado em diversos sítios pela rede e o perfil que a carregou no Flickr consta neste único carregamento. Nas demais, muitos outros ficheiros estão marcados como Flickr, mas não consigo acessá-los. Conde Edmond Dantès (talk) 11:34, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
@Conde Edmond Dantès: Sim, carregam no Flickr com uma licença falsa, e de lá importam para cá. Sempre que houver suspeita disso deve ser aberta uma DR. Quando é confirmado, a conta vai para uma lista de perfis de Flickr banidos, impossibilitando futuras importações de boa fé.-- Darwin Ahoy! 11:37, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
Outro exemplo, Pesquisa no Google, várias imagens - única imagem carregada no Flickr em perfil g. g.1 (estranhamente semelhante a Leonardo. G G)
Nesses casos, irei propor várias DRs em breves. Tem alguma dica para a criação de DRs mais facilmente. Por exemplo, na Wikipédia cria-se PE pelo Fastbuttons, teria alguma ferramenta para facilitar? Conde Edmond Dantès (talk) 11:40, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
@Conde Edmond Dantès: Sim, "perform batch task" (deve estar nos gadgets, é um link aí na aba da esquerda). Ele faz exactamente isso que você pretende.-- Darwin Ahoy! 15:36, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

Structured Data on Commons Newsletter - Summer 2018[edit]

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Structured Data Newsletter - Research link fix[edit]

Greetings,

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Mike Peel (talk) 21:21, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the new Category[edit]

Viva DarwIn, estive mais de oito anos, sem saber onde classificar esta foto File:Rua Miguel Bombarda-Janela.jpg, obrigado ;) --JotaCartas (talk) 20:41, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

@JotaCartas: É incrível, parecem ser exactamente iguais. Como é que se ia saber que as famosas telhas de porcelana do sobrado de Paraty, que tantas lendas e mitos inspiram por lá, são iguais às de um prédio de uma rua do Porto. Esta é a beleza do Commons. :) Muito obrigado por partilhar o achado! (e qualquer dia descobrimos até de que fábrica saíram... ) -- Darwin Ahoy! 21:55, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for: Paraty categorization[edit]

Darwin thank you so much for your hard work on categorizing architecture in Paraty. I'm learning so much from that. I'm hoping to do the same for photographs taken in Cachoeira, Bahia and other municipalities I've visited in the Recôncavo. Take care. Prburley (talk)