User talk:David Newton

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Sorry for that, i have cleaned fr: and commons [1]
de:, sl: and he: have all a local copy, then all good for quick deletion. Bilou 13:54, 2 August 2005 (UTC)


Don't want to bite you, but you do realize we've got naming conventions for the flags? They should be named, e.g.: Flag of Colombia (naval ensign) or Flag of the United Kingdom (merchant ensign)... Well, we'll just have to sort them and clean it up. ;) Flag of Austria.svg ナイトスタリオン 10:18, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

Japanese flag duplicate on Commons[edit]

Hi, I was browsing some WWII Japanese ships and I noticed that the Commons has two versions of the japanese flag. Image:16-jo_kyokujitsu-ki.png and one that you uploaded Image:Japanese-War-Ensign.svg. I noticed that the red in the flag of yours appears to be slightly darker, however, I figure that there shouldn't be this sort of redundancy. I'm not exactly sure which image should replace the other, but I have placed the duplication notice on both. Just thought I would let you know. -- malo (talk) 03:30, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

RAF Ensign[edit]

The RAF Image Manual lists the following RGB values (decimal) for the RAF Ensign's colours:

  • Red - R=195, G=0, B=28
  • Dark Blue - R=0, G=51, B=102
  • Light Blue - R=170, G=186, B=205

I didn't want to just go ahead and edit the Ensign as you may have chosen the current colours for a good reason that I don't know about. I would be grateful if you would let me know what you think. Greenshed 14:11, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

I think I've run in to the same problem too. Sorry for the concern I;ve cuased by running around editing, but I've noticed from the data at [2], [3], that Pantone 549C (Cyan = 52% Magenta = 6% Yellow = 0% Black (K) = 25%. Red = 99 Cyan = 153 Blue = 171) should be used for "sky blue". Herein lies the problem:

  • if you input CMYK you get a lighter shade
  • if you use RGB you get a darker shade

Plus then there's Greenshed's problem. I've had a discussion with a person on the German WP who is concerned with the Flag of Fiji, where I used the RGB values and it appeared dark--he says its incorrect. Perhaps we should resolve whether we should use the RGB or CMYK colourings for "Sky Blue"? Greentubing 23:53, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

I forgot to add, I also checked out Bartram. Greentubing 23:56, 17 January 2006 (UTC)



Image deletion warning Image:Taiwanese-Naval-Jack.svg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.

If you created this image, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. If the file is up for deletion because it has been superseded by a superior derivative of your work, consider the notion that although the file may be deleted, your hard work (which we all greatly appreciate) lives on in the new file.
In all cases, please do not take the deletion request personally. It is never intended as such. Thank you!

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Stamps' copyright[edit]

Thank you for adding Canadian and UK copyrigh on stamps. I have a question about the creation of the Royal Mail as a separate legal entity : do you the year of this creation ? And do you have some weblinks or legal references for Canadian and UK stamps (I saw the templates on Commons about these countries, but I think the Stamps/Public domain page has to be complete with sources in order to become a reference for uploading users) ? Sebjarod 11:14, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Just to add I finally got time to search for en:Crown copyright. Sebjarod 16:48, 25 February 2006 (UTC)


You hva e forgotten to enter a license at Image:Japanese-War-Ensign.svg. -- 07:50, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

HMS Adamant Photo[edit]


The image is a scan of a photograph belonging to my Grandfather who served on her during WWII. I'm unsure (until I ask him) if he took it or if it was given to him. I think it's the best picture of HMS Admant on the web. Rob Cowie 16:30, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Which copyright law applies?[edit]

Abut this edit: please discuss this on the talk page (or the village pump), i'll revert it for now. Afaik, the place where the work was created and/or published definitely does matter - if the other countries matter seems debatable. Most wikis appear to rely mainly on the country of origin to determin if an image is usable.

If I understand correctly, for an image to be PD, it has to bo PD at least in the country of origin. -- Duesentrieb(?!) 22:48, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your response. You are probably right that the text on Commons:Licensing needs some tweaking. However, the law of the country of origin should IMHO still be the first thing we have to look at - if it's not PD there, it's probably not PD anywhere, and even if it was, it should be policy not to accept it.

For works that are PD in the country of origine (place of creation and/or first publication), the question is what else to consider. All I have seen about this so far just adds to the confusion:

  • the "rule of shorter term" is nice, but where is it supposed to apply? The US? The country the uploader is in? etc.
  • Does it matter where the servers are located? (IMHO not); Does it matter that the Foundation runs the servers, and is in the US? (IMHO maybe). Does it matter where the uploader is? (probably, because that's where he can be sued).
  • How about works that are PD for other reasons than age? It's unclear for instance if US government work is in fact PD outside the US.

This is really tricky, and I don't think anyone really knows how to deal with this. You said that if you upload something that is PD in the UK, you may be violating US law, if it's not PD by the US rules. But why should US law be relevant to that at all? Because of the location of the servers? Unlikely IMHO, since that's basically storage space... in fact, a Wikipedia user would have a hard time to find out where the image is going at all... depending on how the cluster setup changes (not to speak of caches), it may be hosted in Seoul, in Amsterdam, wherever - there's no telling. People don't upload images to the US as such. Think about it this way: if I go 100mph on a German autobahn, am I breaking US law?

So, if you want to change the wording on the licensing page, please put a proposal on Commons talk:Licensing, and discuss it there. Thank you! -- Duesentrieb(?!) 11:19, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Hi - I have copied our discussion to Commons_talk:Licensing#Which_copyright_law_applies?, which seems to be the appropriate place. I'll try to comment some more later. -- Duesentrieb(?!) 11:21, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

French ensign[edit]

Could you modify to read "French naval ensign" instead of "Civil and Naval...", for the Naval ensign differ from the civil one : the red stripe is larger. Thanks--New Dog 08:04, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

to be precise : the proportions are : blue 30; white 33 ; red 37 (against 1:1:1 for the national ensign)--New Dog 08:08, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
According to the French article on the flag, it *is* the civil *and* naval ensign, so it's correctly titled. —Nightstallion (?) 09:26, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
Again, the naval ensign is slightly different from the national ensign. look at : fr:Pavillons et marques de la marine nationale --New Dog 08:26, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
No it isn't. See [4], the Flags of the World website, which is one of the most authoritative resources about flags on the entire internet. You've also misread the French article. It refers to the "drapeau" as having 1:1:1: proportions. It refers to the "pavillon" as having the 30:33:37 proportions. Drapeau means flag and pavillon means ensign. David Newton 13:31, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Image:Naval Ensign of Australia.svg[edit]


Please see Commons:Deletion requests#Image:Naval Ensign of Australia.svg and comment there, if you may.

Thanks, --Mormegil 14:01, 14 June 2006 (UTC)


My mistake - sorry about that. Roo72 12:18, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

PD-ItalyGov up for deletion.[edit]

The folks who claim the EU harmonization directive makes it illegal for governments to expire copyrights prior to 70 years pma have proposed that the PD-ItalyGov template be deleted.

You may have an opinion on one side or the other on this subject, the delete/keep comments are here: Template:Deletion_requests#.7B.7BPD-ItalyGov.7D.7D -Mak 18:31, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Ambiguous cases where PD items are copyrighted outside the country of origin[edit]

  • Your response was very interesting on the delete requests page regarding PD-ItalyGov, thank you.
  • Because it applies to both the Italian government and Imperial Japanese government PD works, I am interested in the general problem of works declared as PD in the country of origin, but over which copyright is claimed in another country (either casually by an editor inserting a copyright notice, or by formal registration).
    • Specifically, I am interested if this ambiguity is the case in the US. I perhaps mistakenly thought Trips normalized the terms- that is, under provisions in US code, if the work was PD in the country of origin on 1/1/96, then the term of copyright is set to that of the country of origin regardless what it was under US law. If that is not so, can you give me some pointers to web sites which back up their statements with specific references to law and or caselaw? If you know it already, could you respond here or at Template_talk:PD-ItalyGov#Comments_on_the_Delete_Requests_Thread? Thanks and Regards -Mak 19:10, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Tip: Categorizing images[edit]

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Hello, David Newton!

Tip: Add categories to your images

Thanks a lot for contributing to the Wikimedia Commons! Here's a tip to make your uploads more useful: Why not add some categories to describe them? This will help more people to find and use them.

Here's how:

1) If you're using the UploadWizard, you can add categories to each file when you describe it. Just click "more options" for the file and add the categories which make sense:


2) You can also pick the file from your list of uploads, edit the file description page, and manually add the category code at the end of the page.

[[Category:Category name]]

For example, if you are uploading a diagram showing the orbits of comets, you add the following code:

[[Category:Astronomical diagrams]]

This will make the diagram show up in the categories "Astronomical diagrams" and "Comets".

When picking categories, try to choose a specific category ("Astronomical diagrams") over a generic one ("Illustrations"). Pro-tip: The CommonSense tool can help you find the best category for your image.

Thanks again for your uploads! More information about categorization can be found in Commons:Categories, and don't hesitate to leave a note on the help desk.

BotMultichillT 10:51, 7 September 2009 (UTC)