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Request reason: "Hi, please unblock. We were never blocked explicitly, this is just an implicit Tor block. We use Tor because people who don't and who volunteer for Fediverse seem to get targeted for attacks. Please allow us to upload from any such Tor nodes. Thanks"
Decline reason: "Users in good reputation can be made IP block exempts. You are not yet a user with good reputation, you have made less than 50 edits and your uploads have copyright problems. So I must decline the request. Taivo (talk) 12:02, 12 February 2021 (UTC)"
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Request reason: "Hi Taivo, we have learned what was not good with the license and have fixed them on the three files that are important. Please reconsider the unblock request at your earliest convenience.Dick smith fair go (talk) 19:19, 12 February 2021 (UTC)"
Decline reason: "IP block exemptions are for cases "when the user's normal (non-proxy) IP will be disrupted by an IP block." An exemption when a proxy IP is blocked is granted only in "highly exceptional circumstances" and when "good cause" is shown. This is not such a circumstance and no such cause has been shown. Unlike, for example, users impacted by the Great Firewall of China, your use of a Tor proxies is voluntary and a mere preference (even if a best practise) rather than a necessity. That you speak in the plural "we" further suggests a problematic use of this account by multiple persons. This request will not be granted. Эlcobbola talk 17:35, 15 February 2021 (UTC)"
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Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose You have made too few edits for giving IP block exemption. Taivo (talk) 20:54, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi Taivo or whomever is able to unblock us, we appreciate the ongoing dialog. It appears more of an online reputation is needed. It may be helpful to know that we have a reputation on the Fediverse. You can cross-check this yourself, because we wrote about our interest in being unblocked today here, activism.openworlds.info/@dsfgs/105728727586217408 . We have been using that service over Tor network for a long time, well over a year now, and not had any noteworthy issues. Also today, we just fended off our first false claim that someone made against one of our images, labeling it a Derivative Work without any prove of such, we know that no proof would exist because we produced it. Anyway, thanks for your continued dialog and we really do hope that with this new knowledge about us, that we might be unblocked at the earliest convenience. Kind regards, DS Fair Go Supporters Dick smith fair go (talk) 12:03, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

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Эlcobbola talk 17:39, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi Эlcobbola, we are disappointed that you have rather brazenly blocked our entire account(?) immediately over some confusion about our name. It's not our complete name and so have requested a name change to 'DSFGS', if that helps. We **are** a supporters group for a Fair Go, after all. Dick smith fair go (talk) 18:03, 15 February 2021 (UTC)


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Request reason: "As stated in the first request but which was neglected in the second, people who volunteer time towards the Fediverse have been doxxed and/or attacked, by what could be vested interests in the status quo. This could be Twitter, Facebook and Google and any corporate partners or sponsors who have vested interests in legacy, centralised social media. Attacks on Fediverse volunteers (and suspected infrastructures) recently appear to have been made, four attacks if one goes back to a suicide in the early 10s. So the need to use Tor is not just best practise, but a possible lifesaver. Regardless of any of this, anonymousing processes and systems have been used throughout all the previous interactions made with your servers. No harm has been done to date, so we are simply asking to use a different anonymising system that is a bit more convenient. A comment was made that the pronoun "we"/"they" is used. It is not uncommon for an person or entity to use third person or other descriptors/pronouns, like 'we'/'they' etc to describe themselves. It is hoped that no discrimination will occur based on the fact that a different pronouns are chosen. If an entity wishes to donate to the Creative Commons as a representative of a Supporters group of a ('Fair Go') initiative that was started in 2017 by an Order of Australia, namely Dick Smith, do we really want to suppress such contributions, or deny any such entity the right to express support towards the initiative by donating works as a supporter of that entity. As mentioned immediately above a name change to 'DSFGS' in pending approval, so please approve that name change first so that is no longer a cause of concern. Again based on the creative contributions made on this account to date, is there anything that is a cause of concern, especially given that other methods have been used to provide a level of anonymity. If anyone is worried about approving this then we welcome a cap on the number of edits per day, say 15. That may be sufficient to proceed but with a level of caution on your part."
Decline reason: "This is not a venue in which you repeat unresponsive requests until you get the answer you want. An IPBE will not be granted. Regarding the inappropriate username: 1) the account has not been renamed and 2) DSFGS is equally problematic and does not resolve the issue. Please read COM:IU critically. Эlcobbola talk 19:40, 15 February 2021 (UTC)"
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Hi Эlcobbola, your promptness is appreciated, though the conclusions reached seem less considered. The COM:IU page has been read, but doesn't relate to the prospective new name, ie. DSFGS. As done on the fediverse profile, it is also trivial to say "We are not Dick Smith but supporters of his Fair Go movement" wherever it is needed (but it won't be needed if the name change affects everything). Points made in the unblock requests (unfortunately repeatedly) have **not** been addressed in the Denys. With all sincerity, over the past two days, good faith interactions were assumed, but getting more difficult to assume with the heavy stances and actions that have been taken and lack of consideration. The takeaway that a reasonable person might get from reading the above is that admins seem hostile. Given that this account has focused on Fediverse work the only conclusion is that this hostility is targeted at Fediverse development. Do Wikimedia administrators want to be seen as hindering creative works for Fediverse, the only real social media network that is an actual network and not a silo'ed walled garden? Where might one learn more about Wikimedia's corporate sponsors, if any? If the Deny and Block is not overturned, then other means of distributing the creative works will be used. Also this will not be forgotten in a hurry. Dick smith fair go (talk) 21:10, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

If COM:IU was read, what parts of "Promotional usernames that are used to promote a group or company [are inappropriate for editing on Wikimedia Commons]" and "Use of the names of organizations is allowed on Commons only if you verify your account, proving that you are or represent the respective organization" were unclear? Notwithstanding that the account has not been renamed, renaming "Dick smith fair go" to "DSFGS" (Dick Smith Fair Go Supporters) is equally problematic (indeed, activism.openworlds.info/@dsfgs is explicitly referenced in the blocking rationale) which, similarly, would have been readily understood if my comments had been critically read. We are not here for your soapboxing and self-promotion, nor are we were to entertain bad faith delusions ("the only conclusion is that this hostility is targeted at Fediverse development") and continuing in this manner may result in the removal of talk page access. If you find our polices disagreeable, finding "other means of distributing the creative works" would be a good option for you. Эlcobbola talk 21:40, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
Yes, the keyword missing was "Supporters", and efforts were immediately made to resolve that when highlighted. That name, DSFGS has been adopted since 2017. Even Dick's representative themselves in 2017 were happy for such a name to be used. So the guidelines are actually adhered to, we'd provide a screen grab of the remarks of Dick's rep but Failbook(sic) is not a platform we use anymore. This is not some grand promotional thing for us. We are merely helping Fedi at this moment because we feel it is where the 'Fair Go' exists. Having said that we no longer expect this to be remedied here. It is regrettable that wikimedia admins have made this decision, but alas it has been an enlightening learning experience. Dick smith fair go (talk) 23:25, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

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