User talk:Dlivnat

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Welcome to Wikimedia Commons, Dlivnat!

Responding to your question[edit]

Dear Dlivnat,

Don't worry, you didn't mess anything up: I was just making things a little clearer and simpler. I removed the "Sports" category because the category "Ultimate" is indirectly within it ("Ultimate" is categorized in "Frisbee" which in turn is in "Sports"). I was removing the redundancy, or "overcategorization" according to Wikimedia Commons guidelines (for your convenience, I produce the applicable text below). The short explanation is that "Ultimate" describes the images perfectly, while "Sports" is far too broad. Using only the specific category makes it much easier for someone searching for images to find what they are looking for. Hopefully, this makes sense.

From a practical standpoint, there are a number of categories that "require permanent diffusion", which means they are big, broad subjects (such as "dogs" or "cities") in which almost all images are better categorized more specifically (such as "Cocker Spaniel" or "Tel Aviv"). I patrol the "Sports" category periodically, and move images to each specific sport's category (you made it easy for me, all I had to do was remove the general category and I didn't have to search for a more specific one: thank you!).

Also, thank you for uploading these images. They are really quality pictures. Also, congratulations to Hebrew Wikipedia on 100,000 articles a month or two ago. Take care!

TFCforever (talk) 01:07, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Over-categorization is what happens when an image is placed in several categories within the same tree. The general rule is always place an image in the most specific categories, and not in the levels above those. An example:

We'll assume that yellow spheres are spheres with a yellow color. We can think about Category:Yellow spheres and Category:Spheres. The picture to be categorized shows yellow marbles. We categorize the file in Category:Yellow spheres. Now, if we also categorize the image file in Category:Spheres, this is over-categorization: because we already know that the yellow marbles are spheres. This applies to most images: As mentioned above files in Category:Paris should not also be in Category:France, files in Category:Albert Einstein should not be in Category:Physicists from Germany and so on.

re:Looking for help with OTRS pending permission[edit]

There appears to be about 300 tickets in front of yours, which is about a 16 day backlog. We handle the tickets in the order they were received. If you don't receive a reply in 2 weeks, you can ask about it at COM:OTRS, but otherwise, just sit patient, and please excuse our backlog. Thanks! If there is anything else I can help you with, feel free to ask. -Andrew c (talk) 03:31, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, flickrreview is a lot easier than OTRS for Flickr images. In the future, you can get bots to upload the photos and automatically approve them. For the ones you already uploaded, all you need to do is add the tag {{flickrreview}} to the existing photos, and that puts them in a category for approval, and then an reviewer (or bot) will come along and do their thing. No need to reupload or anything. Hope this helps.-Andrew c (talk) 17:04, 14 February 2010 (UTC)