- 1 File:Rube Goldberg's latest war machine^ - NARA - 534875.tif
- 2 File:HOLIDAY CROWDS VISIT GENERAL SHERMAN TREE - NARA - 542728.jpg
- 3 File:"Battle Monument, Baltimore.", 1838 - NARA - 513343.jpg
- 4 Still no movement on solving Wikisource issue
- 5 Notification about possible deletion
- 6 File source is not properly indicated: File:Sixth Fleet during invasion of Iwo Jima. Mt. Suribachi in background. - NARA - 520752.jpg
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Hi Dominic, It seems like this file might have been uploaded in reverse. Looking at the name on the sign below the tree, "General Sherman" is backwards / a mirror image. I wonder if other images (from slides?) in this set could have also been uploaded in reverse. Thanks for your efforts! Tucoxn (talk) 00:46, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
This is the wrong image for the metadata. The metadata is for National Archives Identifier 513343, but the image is from National Archives Identifier 513330.--Jclingerman (talk) 14:49, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
Still no movement on solving Wikisource issue
This 'sending-folks-to-Wikisource-to-transcribe-works-that-are-really-photos' thing is still not resolved.
The current scheme makes a selection depending on what file type is detected (TIFF). This approach is problematic - a .png/.jpg/.tiff/etc. can be a photo of the president or a diagram map of a state park just as much they can be they graphic representations of paper documents (i.e. a scanned page). Its insane to try and "guess" what the actual file content is just by the file extension. And trying to carve out Series or Record Group ranges for each type of products is just as crazy imho.
Why not route just the files originating from the Textual/Reference records division to Wikisource?
Although I'm not 100% sure about it, I believe the various NARA & Presidential Library entities & their "codes" are already listed somewhere no? -- George Orwell III (talk) 00:12, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
- @George Orwell III: The approach I took initially was to apply the button to every image, to serve just as an easy tool to jump right into a Wikisource transcription if you wanted. That requires some discretion on the part of the editor. Restricting it to TIFFs wasn't an attempt to guess anything by file extension at all, it was just a way to exclude duplicates (we are uploading both TIFF and JPG versions of the same images).
- Basically, I think the answer is that your approach is possible, but would require some programming work, and changes across all the 100,000+ uploaded files. Ideally, we should rely on the medium field, not the location. The location field might be roughly equivalent for things in the textual branch of the main NARA facility, but other facilities like the presidential libraries do not have separate branches, and a location like "Truman Library" could have materials of any type. The problem is that we did not import the medium metadata field in the original import, though I have planned for a while to fix that in the future. Similarly, I want to at some point develop a better workflow for ensuring we aren't creating orphaned proofread pages, and that might involve automatically creating index pages based on the Commons metadata. (And cleaning up all the existing orphans, of course.) I'm still looking for someone with who can code in python to help with our code, though; the last time we had help with coding it was from a temporary intern in my office who has since left.
- If you feel strongly about it, I would recommend you simply hide the transcribe button on all pages until we can make the changes above to add the needed complexity to the workflow so we don't create messes on Wikisource. It might be a question for the Scriptorium, though, to see if anyone else cares enough about the button to help out or thinks it's better to have the buttons on all images than none. Dominic (talk) 14:11, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
Notification about possible deletion
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- File:VIENNA'S PEDESTRIAN-ONLY ZONES ARE GUARDED BY POLICE WOMEN TOURISTS WHO VIOLATE THE ORDINANCE ARE GIVEN "COURTESY"... - NARA - 549668.jpg
- File:VIENNA'S PEDESTRIAN-ONLY ZONES ARE GUARDED BY POLICE WOMEN TOURISTS WHO VIOLATE THE ORDINANCE ARE GIVEN "COURTESY"... - NARA - 549668.tif