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Your SVG work[edit]

Hi EclecticArkie, you seem never to answer on your talk pages, which makes discussion with you a difficult matter. Nevertheless I want to tell you that you are very successfully disgarbaging SVG drawings. Your work has an educational value and others can learn a lot of it. Your efforts may be much more useful and easier to find when you add them to the appropriate categories, e.g. to

and when you tag them with {{SimplSVG}} maintainig all the appropriate parameters to categorize them into the best fitting subcat. My best wishes for further success sarang사랑 09:13, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Roundel_of_the_USAF_(low_vis).svg[edit]

thanks for fixing the whitespace problem - I couldn't figure our where my error was. NiD.29 (talk) 23:56, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you[edit]

GDBarnstar1.png The Graphic Designer's Barnstar
For your tireless work of reducing the SVG code of the RAF squadron roundels. De728631 (talk) 18:55, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

File:Flag of Chicago, Illinois.svg[edit]

Could you take a look at File:Flag of Chicago, Illinois.svg? When you reduced the size, you apparently inadvertently messed up the stars. I reverted to the old version, but you can upload a fix if you like. HueSatLum (talk | contribs) 12:53, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

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190.123.178.224 14:00, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

Tagging[edit]

Hi Arkie, you did a lot of good work with SVG drawings. It would be even more useful if you would tag your files, as I told you earlier, e.g. to recategorize them. See Green-Up-Arrow.svg as an example. Good success in future! sarang사랑 06:41, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

League positions[edit]

Great work on the league position charts. Just wondering if you could do some combined ones for derby pages. I've made ones for the Manchester derby and Second City derby which need updating and yours would look much better. Thanks 82.8.75.90 21:31, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the compliment. Click the thumbnail at the right to take a peek at the chart I worked up for the Manchester Derby
Manchester Derby chart
and let me know what you think. EclecticArkie (talk) 02:52, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

Looks really good. There's plenty you can add them to if you want to keep busy! Thanks 82.8.75.90 18:55, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for making the charts. Vertical lines improve the clarity for relating 'league position' with 'year'; please add them. j!

A barnstar for you![edit]

Graphic Designer Barnstar Hires.png The Graphic Designer's Barnstar
Especially for this rather magnificent chart. Looking forward to the next one showing the Canaries back in the Premier League. Dweller (talk) 09:09, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
Seeing the section above, I wonder what you think of the challenge of a five-way comparison at en:Pride of Anglia? --Dweller (talk) 09:11, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
Challenge accepted!! Check out the result at the Pride of Anglia chart. Thoughts? EclecticArkie (talk) 03:33, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

Did I never come back to you? How rude of me. It's fantastic. I'll come and nag you again for an update some day soon! --Dweller (talk) 09:35, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

A kitten for you![edit]

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English League football progression graphs[edit]

Hey Arkie, I've always loved checking out your league performance graphs. They're very handy. In fact, I've added a few of my own for teams that you've not yet gotten to (Arsenal, Liverpool). I'm just sort of curious about one (and a half) portions of your template graph. Easy one first. The third division south did have 22 teams in it in 1932. It was the north that only had 21 that season. So when it comes to graphing teams that would have been in the south (regardless of whether or not they actually were in that division that year), I've left that tier at 22.

More curiously though, why does your graph expand to 94 teams from 1992 to 1995? In those years, the 4th tier was reduced from 24 to 22 teams while the entire league remained at the constant 92. So should that notch at the bottom not be there?

Keep up the great work though!

Srhansen1985 17:07, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

Chart showing the progress of Arsenal's league finishes since the 1893-94 season
It looks like I replicated the format set up by a user who did some charts several years ago, as in this example. Fixing that should make a nice close season chore on the 75+ charts I've done for English clubs. I also plan to set the number of clubs in the Third Division to 22 except for those clubs that were actual members of the Third Division North in 1931-32 (Crewe, York, Hull, Rochdale, etc.).

Thanks for bringing this to my attention. I would much rather fix something like that myself and keep the code minimized, rather than someone else try to do it in Inkscape and create some charts with unnecessarily bloated code.

Excellent work on your chart, also. Cheers! EclecticArkie (talk) 22:57, 7 June 2015 (UTC)


I just made a few charts in excel and uploaded .png files. Not really sure of a better way to do it. But I was curious if you knew a good way to get the lines in each line chart to appear on top of the "Tier 1," "Tier 2" etc. text. Each time I've made a graph, the text has annoyingly appeared on top of the line and things like "move to back" haven't worked. Here's an example:

Side-by-side comparison of Newcastle's and Sunderland's final league positions 1891-2015

Srhansen1985 17:07, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

Arkie, your Football charts are extremely useful with exceptional readability. Thank you! Jrgilb (talk) 02:16, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

Your SVG replacings[edit]

Hi, you do fine and worthful work when disgarbaging SVG drawings. Please don't hesitate to change then also the (not longer valid!) {{Inkscape}} against an e.g. {{Inkscape-hand}}; for an example I did it at Croix de Guerre 1914-1918 ribbon.svg, using the shorthand form with {{Igen}}. Thank you sarang사랑 11:34, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

Liverpool vs Manchester Utd[edit]

Manchester United FC League Performance.svg
Liverpool FC League Performance.svg

Good evening Arkie. You have added the great little chart for Man Utd and Liverpool to their club pages, are you able to do a merged one for the relevant rivalry page? If so it'd be much appreciated. Thanks Koncorde (talk) 22:34, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

Liverpool Manchester United Rivalry League Performance.svg
Koncordeː Check out the chart at the lower right and let me know what you think. EclecticArkie (talk) 01:45, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for that, sorry I didn't see the notification before now. Thank you for updating the article too. Koncorde (talk) 18:39, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

Swedish versions of English football clubs' league performance[edit]

Hello!

I don't think there is any need to create Swedish versions of your football league position charts. But if you do the headline above should read "Chelsea FC:s ligaplaceringar 1906-2015" and the headline to the left should read "Placering". Jensapag (talk) 18:43, 16 November 2015 (UTC)


Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I had often wondered how non-English Wikipedians felt about the English-only labels on most of my charts.
Since it has already been created, I will leave the Swedish-only Chelsea chart on Wikimedia Commons. On other club's charts that are being used on sv.wikipedia.org (Newcastle, Everton, etc.), I will include Swedish support along with other languages that can be selected from a pop-up menu on the chart's page on Commons. EclecticArkie (talk) 01:38, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

File:Copyleft.svg[edit]

Hi, something with File:Copyleft.svg was wrong, it could not be validated; the validator considered it as text/plain. I reverted it. (Feel free to try again, of course, if you have a better and valid version.) –Be..anyone 💩 18:27, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

Automated Football Charts?[edit]

Hi EclecticArkie, I've been looking at your SVG work for a while, particularly your soccer league history graphs which are just great. Seeing you uploaded new versions of the files I watch already, got me wondering about how much time goes into each season of edits, and was pondering thoughts to perhaps semi-automate them (perhaps using VBA in an Excel spreadsheet, so that all one would need to do is add the new season of data, then upload the files [which could also be automated?]). Might make them more adaptable, allowing a larger range of language labels and an easier application to other sports leagues\newly advancing teams\comparison graphics, etc. But don't really know what goes into it right now. Just add four more pixels to the widths of each graphic, calculate the new position on the path, add tick\gridlines if needed, and save? Do you just type it out team by team, or do you already employ some tricks to speed it up? Regardless, thanks for all your work sir, JeopardyTempest (talk) 07:59, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

You raise some thought-provoking points. I've occasionally wished that something like an html "include" tag for the basic template format was possible, one for pre-WW1 clubs (Aston Villa, PNE, etc.) and another for c. 1920 3rd Division entrants (West Ham, QPR, etc.). That could save the effort of widening the entire graphic 10 pixels, widening the border, lengthening the shaded bands for the various tiers, re-centering the title line, shifting the tier labels 10 px to the right, etc. However, it only takes 3-5 minutes to update and upload a club's chart with a few keystrokes of svg code, so it's not particularly time-intensive. On the other hand, table information for every League season is being maintained by other users and the possibility of automating the access of that information for creating a chart dynamically is intriguing. That warrants some investigation. Cheers! EclecticArkie (talk) 20:13, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
Really appreciate the response! So only takes maybe 3-6 hours works each year to update all the graphs (do you know how many football graphs you have now, btw?) Until a major change becomes necessary, like changing pixel width of a season (or this crazy 5th league proposal), yeah, I certainly don't see much benefit there in coding it! I had some thoughts of perhaps adding a bit more information (perhaps trophy icons for years winning a domestic\international cup)... or an added section on the bottom of the graph containing (stacked?) bars. But certainly nothing too important to make huge changes over. I came back across your work this time when noticing one of the newer success teams didn't have a graph (Burton Albion, it looks like). But guess those would be harder because it's difficult to come by lower league data (how low have gone on graphs? I've seen some into conference?) Always looking to help automate something useful (seems like most bots are more concerned with housekeeping than updating information\graphics... and I've long wished there was a more centralized place for the bots, where the community could have input, and they could be created\adapted to update information more easily... and people didn't have to reinvent the wheel [also perhaps even more vital when bot maintainers disappear\die]). I haven't written any wiki bots, and it would be something I'd want to do investigate in detail before jumping in wrecklessly... but do have some scripting background. Can you help me get a better idea of where you're most intrigued? Updating the plots as I first suggested? Or doing similar updates more often (weekly\monthly)? Or other making other kinds of charts (such as league position charts)? Or are you suggesting that tables themselves are poorly updated? Regardless, good graphics (and data) are hard to find, and I'm certainly up for helping improve them if I can be any help. Thanks again for your reply :-) JeopardyTempest (talk) 11:10, 21 May 2016 (UTC)
Yes, 3-5 hours per year goes into maintaining existing charts. Some prep work gets done to enable quick updates once the season is complete. And, yes, a spreadsheet I use to track the charts tells me that I'm currently maintaining over 100 charts for English clubs, English derbies, and Scottish clubs. It's a borderline obsession.
There are a few clubs like Burton Albion that I just don't know what to do with. The ambiguity of lower leagues in the era before automatic promotion and relegation up and down the entire pyramid continues to make me uneasy. For example, the 1948-49 Southern League. Can it be considered one tier of quality below the Third Division? Two? On par with the Third Division? I'm not comfortable with making that assessment or assumption, so I've sidestepped it whenever possible. I've done a few charts where a club's entire league existence can be narrowed down to the post-1978 era (Wigan, AFC Wimbledon, etc.), but others don't seem so clear cut.
I probably have too much of an I.T. background where a single set of data is maintained to eliminate duplicate data entry or the necessity of updating the same piece of information in multiple datasets. Reports, etc. access the data and give up-to-date detail or summation of the dynamic dataset. In a perfect world, it would be great if the charts could access information in the tables on the en.wikipedia.org pages "yyyy-yy in English football" without ongoing human intervention. A pipe dream, I know, in something as distributed as the wikipedia community. But I can dream. ;-) EclecticArkie (talk) 00:52, 22 May 2016 (UTC)