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File:Triumph Toledo ca 1978 in Silver Street.JPG[edit]

This one is embarrassingly bad. But it is the only wiki-image of the front of this car. (There was one taken from a newspaper article, but that got removed by the copyright squad. And one can see their point.

I have no idea if there is any hope of improvement. I do not think I would know where to start. But .. well ... maybe ....

Thank you if... Charles01 (talk) 19:45, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

✓ Done Quite tricky but still an improvement, I think. --
ElHeineken (talk) 08:07, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
Yes, I agree. It's still not a picture to make a photographer proud, but it's better than it was. I wonder if there are any of them left today. You occasionally see slightly more recent ones (by which time they'd rebadged it as a smaller engined Triumph Dolomite) at old-timer shows in England, but the Toledo was effectively the down-market versions, and those aren't the versions that often attract devotion from the enthusiasts. And it was, somehow, a disappointing car, being technically, in terms of market positioning and in other respects a retreat from the ambitions of the similarly shaped Triumph 1300 which had preceded it. These thoughts make me a bit sad. Ho hum. Best wishes Charles01 (talk) 20:23, 27 October 2010 (UTC)


File:Audi 80 B1 Estate England.jpg[edit]

Audi 80 B1 Estate England.jpg

I wonder if you agree that this one would be better with (1) a little bit of lightening and (2) degreening? Your call. Best wishes Charles01 (talk) 16:36, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

✓ Done Maybe a bit too much lightening. Your judgement please :-)
Again thank you. I think the lightening is about right. (Though I reserve the right to change my mind about it...) Best regards Charles01 (talk) 09:28, 21 October 2010 (UTC)



File:Volkswagen Passat B1 Brazilian version.jpg[edit]

Volkswagen Passat B1 Brazilian version.jpg

✓ Done Reading on the English VW Passat page is stumbled across another green pavement :-) I hope the changes are OK with you? --
ElHeineken (talk) 08:24, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

You're right. Thank you.
Not so long ago I remember (and I see) that I solemnly removed a line of parked cars from the background without even noticing the green tint. It's strange how each of us sees colours differently (and, in my case with these old pictures, memory probably intrudes, so that even more than if I was meeting it afresh, I am tempted to see what I expect to see). But now you have made the changes it is perfectly obvious that it was too green.
1974 Volkswagen Dasher.JPG
Of course, it would be EVEN better if one could get a bit more definition - eg of the panel gaps surrounding the opening panel, and maybe of the ridge along its middle - on the bonnet / hood. Maybe that's one for the next generation of tools. It would have to be done VERY gently to avoid the overall effect looking unnatural. Only one person's (my) opinion, of course. And hmmm. Regards Charles01 (talk) 09:14, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
Audi 80 b1 v sst.jpg
After I wrote that I thought I'd see if I could find any picture of the original Passat to make sure there really was a ridge on centre-line the bonnet/hoot. There was, I think, but it IS a pretty faint ridge. I think the clearest wiki-example (thanks to the way the light falls) is actually on an Audi. BUT I'm only about 95% sure that this far back the two models would have shared the panel. AND it's always possible that the panel was done differently in Sao Paulo. Like I wrote, hmmmm. Charles01 (talk) 09:22, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for the quick reply. We shall keep it in mind for the next wave of tools. Although as less and less people are working with film based images, the anti-ageing tools might or might not improve.
While working on all these images of yours I felt the urge to write some Gimp plug-ins to help non-linear colour corrections. I'll probably dig around the theoretical background a bit more before attempting anything. --
ElHeineken (talk) 09:23, 19 October 2010 (UTC)



File:Citroen BX Midi.jpg[edit]

Citroen BX Midi.jpg

I've always rather liked this one. Though there are a lot of good and ok wiki pictures of this Citroen, so maybe its not so surprising that no one else looked it enough to use it for an article. Be that as it may, I think it might be a relatively easy job just to rebalance the colours a little? Your call, as ever. Best wishes Charles01 (talk) 18:36, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

✓ Done Just like you guessed, a quick and simple fix.
On a side note, adjusting the image has its issues as colour balancing relies on your eyes definition of a correct colour. The mint green Citroen always tries to throw of your own judgement as its such an unsual (but typical) colour. --
ElHeineken (talk) 09:09, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
Thank you very much. on the side note bit, I certainly agree we all see colours differently. I'd not really noticed a particular issue with this shade of blue:green, though if you leave Citroen out of it, I HAVE noticed before that different people put the line between blue and green in a different place.
I removed a couple of bits of dust and slightly darkened it. I don't think I really remember how it looked at the time: it was early / mid-morning in a supermarket car park on the edge of Perpignan after driving through the night as a passenger in a coach / touring bus across France. It was a very fine coach. Setra 215 HD. (I think I uploaded a picture of it to wikipedia at some stage.) But I think however fine the coach may be, you still, at that stage, find the thought of a bed quite extraordinarily appealing. I don't think my photographic judgement was at its most critical, but somehow the picture came out rather well, and now you've degreened it, it's a whole lot better. Thank you. Regards Charles01 (talk) 20:23, 27 October 2010 (UTC)


File:Renault 7 Siena 1976.jpg[edit]

Renault 7 Siena 1976.jpg

I was thinking that you'd more or less finished my list of critical images uploaded to wiki. And you've also encouraged me to learn a bit more about how I can improve 'my' images myself. Though I do not think it will ever be a personal area of expertise for me. Anyway, thank you on both counts.

Plus ... the Renault 7 looks a bit odd at the best of times, but I think the colouring on this one has 'lost it' somewhere. Not (I hope) a difficult challenge, but nevertheless one that I think would benefit from your skills if and when you will have the time. Best wishes Charles01 (talk) 19:56, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

✓ Done
I would like to thank you very much for all the great opportunities to hone my skills. You brought back my trust and joy about collaborative work for commons and wikipedia. --
ElHeineken (talk) 12:42, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
I am not sure I agree that you should be thanking me. But out of it all, I think we have a good number of improved images in wikipedia, which is good. Wikipedia is as varied as the people who contribute to it, and I am sad if the joy that you had from it was damaged by - I suspect - just one or two of the millions of people contributing to it. Logically you should no more be deprived of the pleasure you get from wikipedia by one person than you would hate all the Stuttgart trams because you met a rude person in one one a rainy morning three weeks ago. (Though I know that just one rude person in a tram - or "Underground train" can indeed put me in a foul mood for the whole morning....) Anyway, I am very happy that you, like me, have found our little collaboration rewarding.
Also, I have not been particularly systematic about this. When I see that someone has changed something on a picture on my "Watch list" I sometimes look at the picture, and if it is one that I uploaded, and where I found things that you might help with I have passed them to you. I think, now, most of them are sorted. But I am sure that somewhere there will be a few that still are not. So IF I come back in eight weeks time with another one, you should not, please, be totally surprised. Anyway, thank again. Best wishes. Charles01 (talk) 19:45, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
As for the Renault picture, it is much improved, but I may nevertheless play around with it a bit more. Then again, maybe not.




File:Mercedes Benz 190SL aus Bern.jpg[edit]

Mercedes Benz 190SL aus Bern.jpg

I think this is such an obvious candidate for colo(u)r correction that I was unable to resist the temptation to bring it to your attention.

On the other hand, wiki seems to be delaying aspects of the upload of replacement images right now. I'm not sure what is going on, here.

Anyhow, thank you if you will feel moved to take this one in hand.

Regards Charles01 (talk) 20:33, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

✓ Done
I've got the same impression regarding images on the wiki. They load slowly and very late compared to the text. Sometimes images are loaded blank or not at all. It's been like that for several weeks now, would be interesting to know what the reason is.
Thank you. Am improvement, methinks. Have a good rest of the weekend. Charles01 (talk) 17:07, 6 November 2010 (UTC)



File:Alfa Romeo 33 Break.jpg[edit]

Alfa Romeo 33 Break.jpg

Not a bad picture (I say) but maybe the colo(u)r needs to be slightly rebalanced. But ONLY if you agree: I'm not quite sure what I think about this. Charles01 (talk) 09:26, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

Hang on. I just noticed that our Alfa loving colleague Typ932 already gave this one a bit of a make-over. That does not mean don't touch it. But it DOES mean, don't touch it UNLESS you are confident that the outcome will be further significant improvement. Please Charles01 (talk) 09:29, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
✓ Done From my point of view the pink cast in the highlights as well as the green cast in the shadows could be reduced signficantly.
I'll leave it up to your judgement :-) --
ElHeineken (talk) 11:01, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
Thank you. According to my judgement you left it better than you found it. It's become rather a good picture, Zug um Zug. Charles01 (talk) 14:57, 13 November 2010 (UTC)



File:Honda Legend Trumpington Road 1987.jpg[edit]

Honda Legend Trumpington Road 1987.jpg

This is another one where I'm not sure. The real issue is lack of sharpness, and there's not too much to be done about that. But IF you think that a subtle rework of the colo(u)r tones might be helpful, please do it.

Again, thank you im Voraus and best wishes. Charles01 (talk) 09:26, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

✓ Done A reduction of the (slight) green cast has been applied, a bit of sharpening and desaturation of the shadows. Let's hear about your opinion :-) --
ElHeineken (talk) 17:27, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
Usefully improved. Thank you. It was taken just outside the Botanical Gardens in Cambridge which is a rather favourite spot. I did a lot of my revision for my degree in those Botanical Gardens way back when...(about 1977).
I'd been wondering about removing that large blob in front of the windscreen, but it's the blob that washed the windcreen, so I guess I won't.
Best wishes Charles01 (talk) 11:59, 22 November 2010 (UTC)



File:Subaru Kei car unidentified.jpg[edit]

Subaru Kei car unidentified.jpg
Suzuki Alto 1982 Crete with Subaru competitor i.jpg

I have identified it now, but changing the name of images can affect links etc.

Anyway, I guess you can see the issues. It was a lousy rainy day and the image is probably not the colo(u)r it was >30 years ago. Familiar story.

IF you think improvement is possible ... yes please.

Best wishes Charles01 (talk) 17:32, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

✓ Done -- Interesting work at an interesting car. At first I was even tempted to ask about the "real" colour but the final result should (at least somehow) match..
ElHeineken (talk) 17:49, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
MUCH better. Thank you. So much damp concrete in the background. It is an interesting car. I remember renting one in Crete in about 1980, but I don't think they sold many further north (GB or BRD, zB.). Even in Crete it seemed to be rather outclassed by the Suzuki Alto (I think it was a Suzuki Alto - here's the one I photographed at that time when we parked beside it) but we chose the bargain basement car hire firm and someone else got to their Suzuki first! Anyhow, the little Subaru may have slowed to a crawl on the slopes, but it got us to the main sights so I should not complain so much, even if I've now forgotten most of that week.
Very best wishes Charles01 (talk) 12:12, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
I think the colo(u)r is about right. The concrete in England sometimes - as here - has a slight yellow hint which you don't get so much in Germany. I think the building sand here comes from dredging the estuaries and seashore, and we have more yellow coloured sandstone (and less grey or pinkish stone) than in Germany - at least the bits of Germany I know best which is the south-west + Bayern.



File:BMW 630 in Rotterdam.jpg[edit]

BMW 630 in Rotterdam.jpg

This is another one that I've been wondering "should I or shouldn't I?" about asking you to take a look at for some time. If you think you can subtly improve it, yes please.

Best wishes Charles01 (talk) 17:59, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

✓ Done That's a tricky colour for sure, one might be tempted to think it's black :-) If I guessed correctly it's a black-to-dark-brown metallic. Reassured as the black fender plastics show a deeper black. The sun setting adds up to the brown cast as well. A nice sporty, BMW design by the way. --
ElHeineken (talk) 16:02, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
I really like the greater clarity you have bought to this one. Pretty close to perfection, given where it started. Thank you. Memory can play funny tricks, but I'm >99% sure it (the car) was always brown metallic. Interesting to see the blue of the license plate, too. That's the way the old Schwarz/weiss license plates in the Netherlands go after five to ten years when they start to fade, but the colour is obviously there in the background from the start. It was always there on the picture before, but now that you've made the colour of the car itself more realistic, one notices the license plate colour. And though you've made the colour closer to th4e car's original colour, we've not lost the effect of the evening sun, which is one of the things (along with the shape of the car and the angle of the shot and aspects - eg the DS and the Alfa sedan as well as the stree angles - of the background) that I have always liked with this one. Thanks again. Regards Charles01 (talk) 19:44, 29 November 2010 (UTC)


File:Vauxhall Victor FE ca 1973 rear three quarters London area.jpg[edit]

Vauxhall Victor FE ca 1973 rear three quarters London area.jpg

This is one of the earliest ones I dared upload, and in some ways it's not so bad. It's an interesting angle. (The front of the car always looked as if it was designed for something else: I think they were trying to demonstrate that it wasn't an Opel.) But the lighting is all wrong. I wonder if there is a way somehow to sharpen it? I know mixed lighting is always an issue.

As you think. Best wishes Charles01 (talk) 18:12, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

✓ Done The overall colour cast has been moved towards orange a little (to soften the blue shadows). Overall colour saturation was reduced a little to make the orange paint in the shadows less aggressive. Dark blue shadows have been desaturated a little more. A hand tuned luminance curved was applied to reduce the contrast. Sharpening worked surprisingly well :-) --
ElHeineken (talk) 16:15, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
I suspect this one may have been quite difficult. Long shadows. I think it must have been December or January not so long before the sun went down. Anyhow, I like (again) the greater clarity you have given it. I think a colleague has uploaded this one to Japanese wiki, which makes it even more worthwhile. (Mind you, there's less choice of pictures of Vauxhall Victor FEs than there is if you are interested in, for instance, the BMW 633.) Many thanks. Best wishes. Charles01 (talk) 19:52, 29 November 2010 (UTC)



File:Mazda 323 Notchback.jpg[edit]

Mazda 323 Notchback.jpg

I think this must have been an experiment with cheap film. I'm sure it never used to be that colour. Anyway, if you can make the tint more ... conventional, that would be a good thing to do. It's a fairly dull car at a fairly dull angle, but it might look better after you've taken a look. Thank you if you will ...

Best wishes

Charles01 (talk) 11:56, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

✓ Done That's a tricky one. After balancing all the colours in the highlights and darker areas, some detail seems to be lost in the shadows. I've made a second try but it did not work out any better. What's you opinion? --
ElHeineken (talk) 16:56, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
It's definitely improved. Thank you. I still find it a slightly dull picture, but I think this may be primarily down to the photographer. There's no excuse for that really. One should be able to manage an interesting picture in a historical Dutch street complete with uncovered canal and bicycles in the background. Maybe I was just too happy to be in Utrecht to be concentrating. Or maybe it was starting to rain and I was concentrating on not getting water on the lens.
Anyhow, I think it's usefully better than it was. I have downloaded it to my computer here and will see if I can do anything to improve it more, but I don't think I'll be doing anything more major. (I want to crop a thin strip of frame that I just noticed which must have crept in when I - or the shop - was scanning the slide.) Best wishes Charles01 (talk) 20:02, 29 November 2010 (UTC)



File:Volga Estate Anvers.jpg[edit]

Volga Estate Anvers.jpg

I've been removing one or two spots from this and I slightly changed the colour balance. But I do not trust myself not to overdo it and end up with something looking unnatural. However, the colour somehow still does not look quite right. I don't think it's a candidate for drastic treatment. (And I don't think it will ever be the best picture out there. Limited light in the first place, cheap camera, lousy angle and too tightly in the frame for me to be able to experiment with rotating it...) But (if you agree) a little delicate final refinement by you might be (1) possible and (2) an improvement. Thank you im Voraus for thinking about it, anyway! Regards Charles01 (talk) 20:07, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

✓ Done Another interesting case. The yellow/green tint of the image gave the highlighted part of the hood the illusion of being coloured correctly. After balancing it turned almost white. I made the attempt to re-colour it in a (hopefully) similar colour hue. --
ElHeineken (talk) 20:19, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
I think this is usefully improved. Thank you. Alas, I do not remember the colours that morning in Antwerpen in 1972, but I am reasonably confident from "general knowledge" that the colour of the car itself is about right and the colour distortions on it reduced. I think it was quite early, and I do remember being surprised how cold it was. I was surprised because this was the month of May which in some places and in some years is when and where summer starts. Best wishes. Charles01 (talk) 10:00, 7 December 2010 (UTC)



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File:Arctic Hare.jpg[edit]

Arctic hare

Hallo ElHeineken!

Thanks for your offer to retouch the arctic hare photo. As I haven't taken this image (I only uploaded it), I wouldn't mind if you edited it. I agree that it would certainly look better if you rebalanced the colors. --Head (talk) 13:55, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

✓ Done In case you disagree with the result, don't mind contacting me right away. :-) -- ElHeineken (talk) 19:18, 20 January 2011 (UTC)


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Super Chief images[edit]

Hi there. I'm well aware that the images are somewhat different but they all stem from the same source image. It makes no sense to me to keep four slightly different versions of the same image, each of which was uploaded at a different image. I thought File:Santa Fe Super Chief colors adjusted and sky cleaned.JPG was superior because the sky looked better and the file is larger, meaning there's more to work with in any future re-touching. Do you think there's value in keeping both images? They're practically identical. Mackensen (talk) 00:22, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Hi Mackensen!
Thanks for your message, now your intention is understood :-)
From a historical point of view, the File:Santa Fe Super Chief colors adjusted and sky cleaned.JPG was created as a copy of File:Santa_Fe_Super_Chief.jpg latest version, mainly to avoid disturbing the use of the original. From my point of view that was not necessary but considered good pratice by User:MattiPaavola.
As the cleaned version is missing the history (original version) of the file (and therefore links back to File:Santa_Fe_Super_Chief.jpg) I would suggest the following:
That way we keep the picture's history and no revisions (previous versions) are lost. Is that an option you could agree on?
Best regards, ElHeineken (talk) 04:25, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

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Charles01 (talk) 18:44, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

Hi Charles, long time no see :-)
I agree with you. From my experience, these type of requests are often turned down. Let's see what the administrators say.
-- ElHeineken (talk) 22:02, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
I'm glad you're still around and I hope you're ok. I am, I think. As for the question of whether someone will pick up that deletion request, understand the point of it, and delete the horrible picture I took in Cambridge of a Triumph Toledo back in the 1970s, there is indeed a large element of the random. As for the "replacement" pictures, the black Toledo would be much better than it is if the car had not been black. Black cars have a whole bundle of issues that are avoided with lighter colours. The picture in Malta is better, but if I'm being picky I think the photographer stood a bit too far away so that the zoom adjustment distorts (foreshortens) a little the lines of the car, and the car itself somehow has had a tough time, with a new rear wing panel resprayed in not quite the same colour as the rest of the car. And yet and yet, it's sooooo very much better than that embarassingly horrid picture of the blue Toledo. Hrmmph. Happy days and on with Tuesday. Charles01 (talk) 05:47, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
Happy to hear you're fine. I'm fine as well. Maybe as a surprise to you, I'm currently living in Tokyo.
Unfortunately almost no old cars parking here, possibly because it's not allowed and owners of such expensive old vehicles will keep the in a closed garage :-). But it's the perfect place to get old Japanese cars in better-then-new condition: http://www.carsensor.net/usedcar/detail/CU1674071201/index.html?TRCD=200002 just look at the pictures ..
ElHeineken (talk) 12:27, 16 July 2013 (UTC)