User talk:EugeneZelenko/Archive8

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Ann Dancing[edit]

I believe that video for Ann Dancing falls under the same guidelines that all other images of public sculpture fall under, like that used in Cloud Gate ( But I'm not sure how to get all the licensing correct. Will you help out? Richard McCoy (talk) 17:13, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Deleting my user profile claiming it is spam[edit]

I am wondering why you have delete my profile like some sort of leet wiki editor.. That is plain rude, it is my userpage, and I have every right to contain the data based on my end user base profile, which is currently XOOPS, where we have the director of Red Hat, Director of Apache Foundation and various other groups involved in the project .. see which I am one of the main core developers of, see my userprofile on there a 5 star developer where there is only 4 Core Developers the rest are 3rd parties of the organisation.

I consider next statement as spam: Chronolabs Australia - Home of Web Core Design, Why Corporation & That Business Empire Leaders in PHP & Visual Basic Development. Full Portals and Web Solutions with over 20 Years Experience in software developing and solutions providing. We offer a range of CMS and Customised Solutions, contact us today and make and inquiry. We can develop your own customised modules and standards, feature all the latest technology. As a IT Co-operative we are always looking for partners and business members why not sign up today to this portal! as well as inclusion of your user page (deleted version) in categories. --EugeneZelenko 14:44, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Deleted without warning[edit]

I wander why a couple of my images have been deleted without prior notification of the uploader. See Commons:Deletion requests/Image:After election in Russia (2007, LDPR).JPG. Is it some new Commons policy of stealthy deleting that I have unheard of? What is wrong with the publicly displayed images? --Leonid Dzhepko 08:28, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Problem was same with all images listed in deletion request. See Commons:Freedom of panorama about what could be wrong with photo of copyrighted work. --EugeneZelenko 14:53, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice[edit]

Can you take a look now? Image:Raulseixas Os 24 maiores sucessos da era do Rock.jpg --Chisgo 01:40, 28 April 2008 (UTC)


Пожалуйста заблокируйте user:Pianist навсегда for his/her comment for this nomination. Он уже был предупреждён. раньше, Сейчас нужны более решительные действия по моему, Спасибо.--Mbz1 14:04, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Заблокировал на один день. Если участник не скорректирует поведение, придётся применять прогрессивную блокировку. --EugeneZelenko 14:48, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
Thanks. Here's one more. I am afraid one day is enough for such extreme rudness.--Mbz1 19:07, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
This comment was written before block. However, I think it definitely could be accounted if user will not change behavior. --EugeneZelenko 16:19, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Could you, please, delete the rude comment from my image? Thanks.--Mbz1 18:51, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
✓ Done EugeneZelenko 14:34, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Thank you!--Mbz1 18:58, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Could you have a look[edit]

at this one? Thanks, Finn Rindahl 17:32, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for help! I don't think that requirement of link is really mean to use image for any purpose. It's also requirement for fair use like provision (article 19 of copyrights law of Belarus). I put {{no permission}} on image. --EugeneZelenko 14:49, 7 April 2008 (UTC)


Скажите пожалуйста это изображение тоже деривате? Его необходимо удалить?--Jaro.p 16:10, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Тяжёлый вопрос... С одной стороны портреты занимают не так много места, с другой — без них фотография теряет смысл. --EugeneZelenko 15:06, 9 April 2008 (UTC)


Thank you. - Zil (d) 19:23, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Welcome log[edit]

Now this doesn't happen every day - well done! But there seem to be a problem with Siebot, it has not been updating the logs since yesterday morning. I left a message at Siebrand but he does not seem to be active right now. Regards, Finn Rindahl 21:19, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for help with review! Sure, this page need more administrator's attention... --EugeneZelenko 14:47, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Re Lies-magazine-covers.jpg being deleted[edit]

This image is a collection of magazine covers designed by me for a publication I co-produced. Therefore surely I can give them over to copyleft - eg can be reused, edited, etc not-for-profit, remaining as copyleft material.Cangorongo 23:26, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Non-commercial material is not accepted by Commons. See Commons:Licensing. I also is not sure that images on magazine covers are not derivative works. --EugeneZelenko 14:48, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

La imagen organeta.jpg es de mi propia organeta[edit]

La foto de la organeta es mi organeta tocada por mi propia mano. Así que el licensamiento está bien. No supe dónde pegar {{self|GFDL|cc-by-sa-all}}, así que si puede ayudarme con eso... Soy nuevo en Commons, he escrito en Wikipedia en inglés y español pero creí que había escogido el licensamiento correcto (Self-made). Lo que pasó fue que subí una nueva versión y a esa no le puse el licenciamiento. Creo que eso fue lo que pasó. En todo caso, no sé donde edito para ponerle el {{self|GFDL|cc-by-sa-all}} y eso.

If you made this photo yourself, please upload better resolution of it. If you just edited other person work, please add information about author and source of original. --EugeneZelenko 14:39, 11 April 2008 (UTC)


Image deletion warning Image:USA-Saratoga-Sanborn_Park-Agricultural_Machine-10.jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.

If you created this image, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue.
In all cases, please do not take the deletion request personally. It is never intended as such. Thank you!

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Karelj 20:35, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Usurpation request[edit]

Please see Commons:Changing username/usurp requests. Sorry for late response. done here as requested. Regards, --Kaustubh (Talk) 12:47, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

✓ Done EugeneZelenko 14:56, 11 April 2008 (UTC)


Merci/Thank you, Mogador 03:16, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Toni Schoenecker[edit]

This plaque is instaled in Town Sokolov, Czech Republic. ( This foto from plaque i have made today 16.4.2008. best regards Wels

Answered on Commons:Deletion requests/Image:Toni Schoenecker deska.jpg. --EugeneZelenko 15:00, 17 April 2008 (UTC)


Hi, is there a problem with using this logo? it is already used in both the hebrew and the english wikipedia pages about the hebrew university. all I did was to create a userbox for students there.

Logos in general case are not free images and not allowed on Commons. See en:Image:Hujilogo.gif and Commons:Licensing for details. --EugeneZelenko 15:04, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

be-tarask localisation in need of TLC[edit]

Hi Eugene. Just wanted to let you know that the be-tarask localisation is in need of a little TLC. statistics show that the localisation is not complete yet for the most often used messages (71% done). Of the total MediaWiki core UI, 44% has been translated. Of the extensions used within wikis of the WMF, 0% has been translated to the be-tarask localisation. There are also a few messages that have been translated, but are outdated. This is mainly because the messages have changed over time and/or variables were changed. Please consider making an update, either in Betawiki, or as a patch. One of the big advantage of doing localisation in Betawiki is that we will track the changes in English messages for you an tag the messages that need updating. If you do not want to make the effort of updating the be-tarask localisation, please try to motivate a few other users able to contribute to work on be-tarask in Betawiki. Thank you for your help. Cheers! Siebrand 20:53, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

I'll try to update SVN translations on this or next weekend. I track MessagesEn.php changes regularly. Other person (be-x-old:Удзельнік:Red Winged Duck) who works on translation are translating on be-x-old Wikipedia too. --EugeneZelenko 15:09, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
Translating a UI in a local wiki is really bad :( Please ask him to come to Betawiki. I'd still like to see you would use Betawiki too, either in the web UI, or using gettext (see betawiki:Translating:Offline). It will mean a lot better support for the languages, as tracking SVN is a lot of work... Cheers! Siebrand 14:12, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
I'll try to move/review existing translations from be-x-old Wikipedia. Another question: is there any way to translate magic words and other non-message stuff? Or I still need to use SVN for this purpose? --EugeneZelenko 14:41, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
See betawiki:Special:Magic. Best not ask questions about Betawiki here. Best use betawiki:Support. Cheers! Siebrand 09:39, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for help! --EugeneZelenko 14:50, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/Image:Malibufles.JPG[edit]

What do you mean with your comment? I have put a comment in the summary of the image, which states that the owners of the bottles, which are the companies who produced them, have all the rights. Please respond on en:User:Mallerd, thank you. Mallerd 09:38, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Image:Wockhardt Hospital Mumbai.jpg[edit]

I already putted all neccessary things on image page like licence,auther,comment. can u pls let me know why the image is deleted??? 05:01, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, this file didn't contains any description including license. Also will be good idea to upload better resolution. --EugeneZelenko 14:38, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

User name[edit]

Thanks for the help with the name change, Eugene. --David Shankbone 17:15, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, thanks from me too for usurpation. --Kaustubh (Talk) 07:31, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

znikające grafiki[edit]

Możesz podać powód usunięcia niektórych moich grafik z commons Makary 06:45, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

See Commons:Derivative works. Reason was provided in deletion log. --EugeneZelenko 14:43, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
Hello EugeneZelenko, could you please inform me about the reasons to delete the graphics I've uploaded, while leaving others that were in the category [1], such as [butelka coli, butelka piwa , 2 !! butelki coli, kawa. Nie potrafię zrozumieć kierunkowości twoich działań. Makary 17:02, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
I cleaned Category:Copyright violations. Thank you for pointing to other problematic area. --EugeneZelenko 14:51, 23 April 2008 (UTC)


Восстановить вчера удалённый файл Skoblin.jpg Статья осталась без изображения. Это явно ПД-олд, после 1936 года его вообще никто не видел. Спасибо!--Vizu 14:37, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Поскольку удаление свежее, пока попросил удалившего объяснить причину. --EugeneZelenko 14:49, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
Вместо того чтобы посмотреть дату его смерти либо поставить ПД-олд, он просто удалил. Это теперь что, все статьи с шаблоном ПД-Раша независимо от даты изображения могут быть в любой момент удалены?--Vizu 15:27, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
Думаю, что стоит объявить мораторий на удаления, пока все изображения не будут пересмотрены несколькими администраторами (включая из русской Википедии).-- EugeneZelenko 15:34, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
Попробуй это сделать, пожалуйста! Крайне неприятно, когда твою статью "чистят" бездумно на фотографии. Но ведь уже за последние несколько дней, как волна пошла, массу фотографий с этим шаблоном удалили. Загрузивший совершенно не виноват, что поменяли шаблон, причём многие админы удаляли "лишние" шаблоны (я раньше ставил три:олд, арт и ПД-Раша, но два часто удаляли), а потом умники сносят и само изображение... у-у. Человек не в состоянии следить всю оставшуюся жизнь за своими фото, если задним числом шаблон поменяли.--Vizu 16:02, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
Videmus Omnia восстановил Image:Skoblin.jpg.
Я оставил сообщение. Всё-таки будет лучше, если изображения просмотрят несколько человек.
EugeneZelenko 15:11, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
Спасибо! Это вообще было фото 1919 года.--Vizu 18:22, 25 April 2008 (UTC)


Прошу совета как у более опытного админа Викисклада. Как поступать в подобном случае? У user:Domitori есть ещё много фотографий разных авторов с шаблоном {{attribution}}} --Butko 11:45, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Тяжело сказать... Фотография, скорее всего, происходит из газет или официальной хроники. Но подтвердить/опровергнуть тяжело — надо посидеть в библиотеке. В любом случае, заявления надо отправлять в Commons:OTRS. --EugeneZelenko 15:02, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
т.е. правильно будет снова ставить на это и другие изображения участника {{npd}} или лучше вынести на удаление? --Butko 15:42, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
Думаю, что да. Но только объяснить про Commons:OTRS. --EugeneZelenko 15:43, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

From Tibidibtibo : About BB26005.jpg[edit]

I am the autor of this picture, but I cant upload it in better resolution because this is a still from a film that I shot with my camera. You could find this film to this adress : That is a personnal work, no copyright violation. Tibidibtibo 21:10, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

PS : How to change the license?

I reverted my changes. --EugeneZelenko 15:17, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

PDF file deletes[edit]

Thanks for taking care of pdf deletes for the 25th of April, you might want to check the 23rd and 24 April as well, I put several short text pdf files there for delete. WayneRay 18:11, 26 April 2008 (UTC)WayneRay

I left only big PDFs and file which could be potentially useful as source documents for proofreading. --EugeneZelenko 16:50, 27 April 2008 (UTC)


Hi, have you seen this ? Image:Genrich Ippolitovich Semiradsky - Roma, 1882.jpg. Mysterious, isn't it? Perhaps you can find a Russian source, which explains this case. See also the backside Regards Mutter Erde 11:39, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I didn't understand question and I don't follow art news. Could you please give more details? --EugeneZelenko 14:13, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
OK, the question was: The new pic, which I uploaded, is painted in 1882, the detail from a Russian museum, which you have uploaded, is dated 1889. So Semiradsky has painted it twice, or the new one is a copy (or a fake). I will show Lupo this case. Regards Mutter Erde 14:27, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
If you mean Image:Semiradzki - Phryne on the Poseidon's celebration in Eleusis (fragment).jpg - I just transferred it from Wikipedia. However source link tells about 1889. Probably deeper investigation (including books) is necessary. --EugeneZelenko 14:31, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
See Image talk:Genrich Ippolitovich Semiradsky - Roma, 1882.jpg... Lupo 14:51, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Image:Rhionaeschna multicolor-Male-4.jpg[edit]

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There seems to be a problem regarding the description and/or licensing of this particular file. It has been found that you've added in the image's description only a Template that's not a license and although it provides useful informations about the image, it's not a valid license. Could you please resolve this problem, adding the license in the image linked above? You can edit the description page and change the text. Uploading a new version of the file does not change the description of the file. This page may give you more hints on which license to choose. Thank you.

This message was added automatically by ABFbot, if you need some help about it, ask its master or go to the Commons:Help desk. --abf /talk to me/ (using a bot) 15:42, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Name Change[edit]

Thanks! Vol de nuit 16:40, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

taking down our images![edit]

If I own a website, or its owners give CC permission to reproduce images thereof, and I photograph/screenshot the website, why would you take them down? This is very frustrating! 19:58, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Could you please be more specific (image name or at least your account name)? --EugeneZelenko 15:07, 1 May 2008 (UTC)


Please delete this site, my comment there too. --Michael Reschke 16:02, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

✓ Done EugeneZelenko 16:04, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Tramway Buenos Aires[edit]

Voy a escribir en español que es mi lengua natal así puedo expresarme mejor, creo que me equivoqué la forma de reaccionar, lo acepto, no obstante no cambio mi posición respecto del tema; por supuesto que el cartel no es obra mía, pero es sólo eso un letrero indicativo en un lugar de acceso público de Argentina; el motivo de todas esas fotos fue enriquecer el artículo sobre la Asociación Amigos de Tranvía en Wikipedia en español, de la misma manera de como lo hice con otros lugares de Argentina que visité; si observás bien el cartel podés ver en el ángulo inferior derecho que hay una leyenda "A+BA", es largo explicarlo pero de alguna manera eso indica que el letrero fue confeccionado por el Gobierno de la Ciudad de Buenos Aires, la A.A.T. es una institución privado, pero como el recorrido es dentro del espacio público de la ciudad está regulado por este gobierno que en parte la subsidia. Cualquier duda estoy a tu disposición. --Gabrielsus 17:06, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't understand Spanish. Could you please ask help of administrator who speaks English ans Spanish? --EugeneZelenko 14:49, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

I forward the mail of AAT, They authorize and thank my work of wikipedia

From: Asociación Amigos del Tranvía To: Gabriel Sus Cc: ; Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 9:51 PM Subject: RE: consulta

Estimado Gabriel, Ante todo, muchas gracias por contactarte con nosotros! Y desde ya te aclaramos que no hay absolutamente ningún problema legal, desde el momento en que usaste tus fotografías de nuestro Tramway Histórico para colaborar con nosotros, merced a la gran mano que nos diste al subir en Wikipedia y complementar nuestro artículo. Quienes estamos agradecidos somos nosotros. Y sabé que nos tomamos una licencia, porque copiamos una de tus fotos y la pegamos en la definición de "tranvía" de Wikipedia. Por supuesto que nuestros abogados se ponen en guardia cuando la imagen de nuestro Tranvía es usada en beneficio de alguien sin nuestra autorización, pero en este caso, está más que disculpado, como dijimos recién... Agradecidos! Justamente hace tiempo que queremos subir a la Página de Wikipedia dedicada a la Asociación nuestro EMBLEMA, pero quien te escribe es medio torpe para esas cosas, y quizá nos podrías dar una ayuda en subirla tu. Si es así, te mandaremos el archivo del monograma y desde ya agradecidos por tu colaboración. Te esperamos entonces cuando gustes por nuestro "Tramway", o nuestra Sede Social y Biblioteca Popular Recibi de nuestra parte el más cálido abrazo. Atentamente, Ernesto Falzone Secretario Asociación Amigos del Tranvía y Biblioteca Popular Federico Lacroze

From: To:; Subject: consulta Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 16:08:07 -0300

El motivo de mi consulta es el siguiente: durante el año pasado asistí a un evento de vuestra organización en el cual tomé algunas fotos, parte de ellas las coloqué en Wikipedia en el artículo que hace una descripción de la Asociación de Amigos del Tranvía y otras también aparecieron en uno de los boletines electrónicos más importantes de Argentina en materia ferroviaria: Crónica Ferroviaria; lamentablemente antes de hacerlo omití preguntar a ustedes si podía haber algún inconveniente legal en tomar fotografías de vuestras unidades y publicarlas; si es así les pido disculpas por no haber consultado el tema con la debida antelación. Acá les envío los vínculos de donde observar las fotos. Ante cualquier inconveniente estoy vuestra entera disposición.

Saludos cordiales Gabriel Julián Sus


I am going to write in Spanish that it is my language natal like that can express better, believe that I mistook the way of reacting, accept it, nevertheless I do not change my position respect of the topic; certainly that the poster is not a mine work, but it is only it an indicative sign in a place of public access of Argentina; the motive of all these photos was to enrich the article about the Association in Wikipedia in Spanish, of the same way of since I did it with other places of Argentina that I visited; if You see the poster can watch in the best straight angle that there is a legend "A+BA", is long to explain it but somehow it indicates that the sign was made by the Government of the City of Buenos Aires, the A.A.T. is an institution deprived, but since(as) the tour it(he,she) is inside the public space of the city is regulated by this government that partly subsidizes her. Any doubt I am to your disposition(regulation)--Gabrielsus 13:48, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Please forward transportation agency permission to Commons:OTRS. --EugeneZelenko 14:50, 8 May 2008 (UTC)


Thank, sorry for all. --Gabrielsus 19:31, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

My rfa[edit]

Hi Eugene. Is this a valid vote, taking the number of contributions into account? I guess not. Lycaon 14:37, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

I'll investigate new requirements (if they were changed at all). But account doesn't look brand new. --EugeneZelenko 14:40, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks. Where can I consult requirements? Lycaon 14:42, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
Commons talk:Administrators/Requests and votes. Looks like poll didn't change anything. And I don't think that this vote will change anything in your case :-) --EugeneZelenko 14:47, 10 May 2008 (UTC)


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There seems to be a problem regarding the description and/or licensing of this particular file. It has been found that you've added in the image's description only a Template that's not a license and although it provides useful informations about the image, it's not a valid license. Could you please resolve this problem, adding the license in the image linked above? You can edit the description page and change the text. Uploading a new version of the file does not change the description of the file. This page may give you more hints on which license to choose. Thank you.

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Request for bureaucrat[edit]

Там три заявки на RfA ждут подведения итогов.--Ahonc (talk) 09:55, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Сейчас займусь. Вчера реальная жизнь отвлекла... И видно не только меня... --EugeneZelenko 14:52, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

re:Glückwunsch, lieber Administrator![edit]

дзень добры, EugeneZelenko! Дзякуй :) --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 15:15, 17 May 2008 (UTC)


Your were the first on my discussion-site, so I ask you to block my account. It is my own wish. Thank you. --Gwynplain 21:14, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't understand reason to block. If you want to abandon account, just don't use it. --EugeneZelenko 15:11, 18 May 2008 (UTC)


Это фото правильное, грузил автор и его разрешение больше

Нужно оставить то, что грузил автор, некто Зимин Василий из Саратова. От его имени,

Сделали до меня :-) --EugeneZelenko 14:54, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Username change[edit]

Hey, just a quick note to thank you for changing my username. Much appreciated! Smith609 08:24, 21 May 2008 (UTC)


Thank you for your advice John75002 16:42, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

nouvelle image[edit]


Voila j'ai ajoute la categorie Maria Montessori a l'image Merci pour votre aide. -- Pouces-Verts 02:32, 23 May 2008 (UTC)


Hi.... My name is bentoman, and I have noticed that ALL iPhone images are blurred.....

I rather HAVE THE IMAGES DELATED FROM THE COMMONS, rather than seeing it blurred...

Please respond, because I am planning on putting a speedy deletion on the iPhone images, since BLURRED images makes no sense.....

Note: I did contact Apple, and they DID SAY that I can use the iPhone software images on Wikipedia, since it is not for profit...... Bentoman

Sorry, images under free licenses allowed on Commons could be used for profit. See Commons:Licensing for details. --EugeneZelenko 14:55, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
then can the images be unblurred than, since the software images has no free replacement, and I did contact Apple, and the did say that use of iPhone interface images on Wikipedia is allowed. Otherwise, I rather replace the images with iPhone turned off. Also, note that Wikipedia is NOT censored, and blurring the iPhone interface IS censorship. I am planning to REVERT the images to way it was, since blurring the software portion of the phone WILL intact not make any sense for those people who may have never seen an iPhone before, as well as the fact that the article IS somewhat censored. And trust me, some don't know what an iPhone is still. Bentoman
Issue with iPhone photo is copyrighs on GUI (owned by Apple) not censorship. Please read carefully Commons:Licensing and Commons:Derivative works before continue this discussion. --EugeneZelenko 14:37, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

New upload form[edit]

Have you noticed Commons:Village pump#New upload form? It'd be great if we could have more Russian translations. Can you help? Or help find translators? Lupo 16:30, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

I'll try myself (however I'm not too good in translations of format texts) and ask help of other people. --EugeneZelenko 14:38, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
Your changed translations should be fixed now. Don't forget to shift-reload. Lupo 16:00, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Giggy's RfB[edit]


I just wanted to say a huge thanks for your support in my RfB. It just closed, and I'm now a bureaucrat. If you ever want to discuss any of my actions, as a 'crat, admin, or plain old user, please don't hesitate to leave a note on my talk page.

I look forward to working with you! Cheers, giggy (:O) 10:49, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Change of maiden name[edit]

Hello, can you, please, rename my Commons account Vicki Doronina to Mstislavl because I was renamed in ruwiki and I'd like to get a unified account. Thank you.--Vicki Doronina 09:24, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Не могу сделать этого из-за того, что глобальная учётная запись уже создана. Надо её удалить (запрос на m:Steward_requests/SUL_requests#Requests_for_usurpation). Потом надо будет переименовать и создать глобальную учётную запись снова. --EugeneZelenko 15:17, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
Понятно, сделаю. Спасибо.--Vicki Doronina 15:25, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
А теперь?--Vicki Doronina 18:44, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
В рувики появилось приглашение создать общую учётную запись. Но пока находит только запись в enwiki. Не переименуете здесь? Спасибо.--Vicki Doronina 19:21, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
✓ Done Готово. Прошу прощения, за суетой пропустил Вашу просьбу. --EugeneZelenko 02:47, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

My RfA[edit]

Thankyou for your support and apple pie in my RfA, it looks very tasty. -mattbuck (Talk) 19:06, 26 May 2008 (UTC)


Я перевёл форму загрузки, но не знаю, как сделать ссылку на Львов.--Ahonc (talk) 21:23, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Image:ZSU-57-2 knocked out.jpg[edit]


Can you please explain what do you mean?

On the cite from which the picture comes, it clearly says "Non-commercial distribution for educational purposes permitted if document is unaltered". Putting it on Wikipedia is a non-commercial distribution for educational purposes. Also as you can see the document (in this case the picture) IS unaltered.

Regards. - SuperTank17 10:17, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, but Commons is accepting only files which could be altered and used commercially. See Commons:Licensing for details. --EugeneZelenko 14:32, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
Even so than what is wrong with pictures from [2]? It clearly says that those pictures are approved for public release.
Regards. - SuperTank17 15:22, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
I can't interpret public release as copyrights status. --EugeneZelenko 15:23, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
How come? Regards. - SuperTank17 16:31, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
Classified/unclassified status doesn't have anything common with copyrights. --EugeneZelenko 14:47, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
The way I understand it, the pictures were released into the public and therefore became public domains. Regards - SuperTank17 22:35, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
It's necessary to find out primary source of images to resolve any doubts in copyrights status. --EugeneZelenko 14:45, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
I was able to track down the T-62M side view graphic to the OPFOR WORLDWIDE EQUIPMENT GUIDE which is a work of US department of defense. I'm changing the copyright tag now. The other T-62 graphics look very much alike so I'm guessing they're the work of DoD as well. Regards. - SuperTank17 15:41, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
Are you sure that this images were not originated in Soviet Union? --EugeneZelenko 15:43, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
I'm pretty much sure about that. Regards. - SuperTank17 15:50, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
Looking alike is not good reason to declare work in public domain. Please don't do this until you'll find exact source. --EugeneZelenko 15:52, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
Here you have the proof: This website is composed of DoD material. Regards. - SuperTank17 15:55, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
Sorry, it's not USA government site and links to primary source is not provided. --EugeneZelenko 15:57, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
The cite may not be an official US government cite but the material is DoD made. Regards. - SuperTank17 16:10, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
Sorry, this site doesn't credit image creators. --EugeneZelenko 14:53, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
Here's the proof why that three view graphic was made by US military: Regards. - SuperTank17 12:54, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
Sorry, Image:272b-T-62.jpg is proof only for itself, not for other images. Please find primary sources. --EugeneZelenko 14:38, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
It uses the same side view graphic if you haven't noticed. Regards. - SuperTank17 15:58, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
Please read en:Technical drawing if you are not familiar with subject. --EugeneZelenko 16:01, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
Here's the reason why I think that a cite that I provide a link to earlier uses DoD material: All articles concerning military vehicles come from this directory. Please check it and if you still don't believe me than look here as well: Regards. - SuperTank17 19:56, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
Please find out credits for photographers/illustrators. Images could come from everywhere. --EugeneZelenko 14:31, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Форма загрузки[edit]

Ответил у себя. --Kaganer 17:02, 27 May 2008 (UTC)


Thank you for help! --EugeneZelenko 02:53, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/Images by Ably Weathered[edit]

Hey Eugene, Your mass deletion of license plates crossed paths with my mass DR. You got most of the images, could you finish it off? Thanks. --ShakataGaNai Talk 21:34, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm sorry. I'll not hove time today. Will be good idea to ask other admin to help. --EugeneZelenko 16:03, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
Ok. No problem. Thanks! --ShakataGaNai Talk 16:10, 28 May 2008 (UTC)


Добрый день, можно попросить переименовать мою учетную запись здесь из user:Sk-ru в user:Sk. Когда я регистрировался год назад система мне не позволила почему-то так зарегистрироваться, а теперь я бы хотел объединить свои аккаунты через SUL. --sk 22:38, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Не могу сделать этого из-за того, что глобальная учётная запись уже создана. Надо её удалить (запрос на m:Steward_requests/SUL_requests#Requests_for_usurpation). Потом надо будет переименовать и создать глобальную учётную запись снова. --EugeneZelenko 02:51, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
удалили, попробуй сейчас переименовать. --sk 10:17, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
✓ Done Готово. --EugeneZelenko 14:42, 28 May 2008 (UTC)


Please, can you rename my account to "Bassem JARKAS" the last name is all capital letters. thank you. --Bassem Jarkas 17:10, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

✓ Done EugeneZelenko 14:51, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
Thank you :-) --Bassem JARKAS 05:57, 1 June 2008 (UTC)


Thanks Eugene - I valued the support you have given me on this project. I've always considered you (& Fred when around) great examples of the way 'crats should be - I hope I can live up to it. Regards --Herby talk thyme 14:53, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

My Request for Adminship[edit]

Admin mop.PNG Dear EugeneZelenko,

Thank you for voting in my request for adminship, which passed with 25 support, 4 oppose, and 3 neutral. I'm honoured that the community have granted me the administrative tools. If there is anything, then do not hesitate to ask me.

Thank you for the nomination Rocket, it wouldn't have been possible otherwise. Kanonkas(talk)

Thank you for your trust and support on my RfA, EugeneZelenko. If I could help you be sure to leave me a note! :) --Kanonkas(talk) 17:48, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Zařazování do kategorií; (projekt) nafocování celých knih reprudukcí?[edit]

Dobrý den, na mé Commons diskusní stránce odpovídám na Vaši včerejší žádost a na oplátku Vás žádám o pomoc s vkládáním obrázků do kategorií. Zároveň bych se chtěl zeptat, na co jsem se ptal 29.5. Pod lípou na Wikipedii (a zatím jsem se nedočkal odpovědi) - opravdu je tedy legální nafocovat klidně i celé knihy obrazů (např. z Ermitáže nebo Národní galerie), jejichž autor zemřel před více než 70 lety? Běží takový nějaký projekt už na wikisource, dělá to už někdo? Děkuji --Jiří Janíček 18:01, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Commons have many PD images already. Of course, it's good idea to scan or make photo of other images. I myself scan illustrations from old books and I think many other Commoners do a same. As far as I know there are many scanned German books. Also User:Ejdzej uploaded many PD images of Polish authors. But I think special project is good idea to improve collaboration. --EugeneZelenko 14:54, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Russian filenames[edit]

Новые страницы загрузки (как "старый вид" так и "новый") не позволяют использовать русские имена файлов. Куда звонить, кого бить? #! 14:57, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

А в чём именно проблема? Можно поподробнее? Видел, что файлы с кириллицей в именах загружали... --EugeneZelenko 15:01, 1 June 2008 (UTC)


Здравствуйте, Евгений. Не подскажете где и как подать заявку по узурпации ника Insider (пользователь без вклада, возможно даже я) --Insider51 22:56, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Переименовал User:Insider в User:Insider (usurped), но не могу переименовать User:Insider51 в User:Insider из-за того, что глобальная учётная запись Insider уже создана. Надо её удалить (запрос на m:Steward_requests/SUL_requests#Requests_for_usurpation). Потом надо будет переименовать и создать глобальную учётную запись снова.
Подобные запросы можно подавать на Commons:Changing username#Current Usurpation requests.
EugeneZelenko 14:34, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
Спасибо, разберусь счас с енвики и итвики и удалюсь сразу. --Insider51 17:23, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Deleted image w/o warning[edit]


I just noticed that a poster that I uploaded onto Wikimedia has been deleted, but I did not receive notification.

Namely, File:AchillesPoster large.jpg

I saw that someone else had written in on this topic and you referred them to the Freedom_of_panorama page.

I can't remember, but I thought I addressed the Croatian copyright issues in the description of the poster. Several countries allow exceptions for political discourse. Election posters seem to fit under this paragraph of Croatian law:

Use of Copyright Works for the Purpose of Informing the Public

89.—(1) It shall be permitted, to the extent necessary for informing the public on current events by press, radio or television, to reproduce, to distribute and to communicate to the public:

1. works that are part of current event that is being reported on, provided that the work is used to the extent justified by the purpose and manner of reporting on current events;

2. newspapers’ Articles on and photographs of current political, economical or religious topics, which are released through other media of public communication, provided that the author has not expressly prohibited such use, and that the work is used to the extent justified by the purpose and manner of reporting;

3. public political, religious or other speeches made at state or local governmental bodies, religious institutions or at state or religious ceremonies, as well as excerpts from public presentations;

(2) In all the cases referred to in paragraph (1) of this Article, the source and authorship shall be indicated.


I'm not sure whether this protects the poster or not (or whether the Yugoslav law would apply in 1991). I would like the chance to make a case for it. Is there a way to restore the image and open a discussion about it?

Thanks, Ken--Kenmayer 17:03, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Your image is clear Commons:Derivative works. Poster is main and only subject of photo. Part 1 of quoted law definitely assume some restrictions which is not compatible with free license. Author of poster was not credited too. --EugeneZelenko 14:41, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. Makes sense--Kenmayer 13:57, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Translation request[edit]

Eugene, could you please translate the following text for me into Russian:

If you already have an {{information}} template or similar template ready to copy/paste, use the basic upload form. To always use the old basic form layout, check "DISABLED:Use the old-style upload form layout. [talk] " on the "Gadgets" tab of your preferences.

I'll then put it onto the Russian upload form (as an additional bullet at mediaWiki:UploadFormQuickHelp/ru). In Russian, the gadget is called "Использовать старую форму загрузки". Thanks, Lupo 13:24, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Я уже всё понял, спасибо. --Vizu 13:26, 4 June 2008 (UTC)


Русский: Если у вас уже есть шаблон {{information}} или подобный, готовый для вставки, используйте обычную форму загрузки. Чтобы всегда использовать обычную форму, установите флажок в поле «Использовать старую форму загрузки» вкладки Гаджеты в настройках.
Українська: Якщо у вас уже є шаблон {{information}} або подібний, готовий для вставки, використовуйте звичайну форму завантаження. Щоб завжди використовувати звичайну форму, відмітьте поле «Використовувати стару форму завантаження.» вкладки Додатки у налаштуваннях.

--Ahonc (talk) 13:40, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Done the Russian version. For the Ukrainian version, someone should first translate MediaWiki:Uploadtext to MediaWiki:Uploadtext/uk and MediaWiki:UploadFormQuickHelp to MediaWiki:UploadFormQuickHelp/uk. The preferences page uses the term "достосування" fro "gadgets". Lupo 13:51, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
Yes, I didn't find appropriate word for gadgets (достосування was taken from uk-wiki. But now it changed there to додатки). I'll tranlate messages tomorrow or on Friday.--Ahonc (talk) 13:58, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
Ok, thanks! Lupo 14:07, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

RFA -- Thank You![edit]

Lolcat1.jpg I IZ SERIUS ADMNIM THIZ IZ SERIUS BIZNIS lolcat.jpg Loldogadmin.jpg
Catfishing.jpg Assume good faith lolcat.jpg Cat findz sox.jpg
Cute kitteh.jpg Gretel Eating Newcomers.jpg Server-kitty.jpg
Thank you for your support & comments in my RFA!!

I figured a bunch of Lolcats were more fun that me trying to write a logical "thank you". Silly, Aren't they?

ShakataGaNai Talk
Funny images, thank you! --EugeneZelenko 14:32, 5 June 2008 (UTC)


Commons-barnstarW.png The Commons Ambassador Barnstar
Being the person that turned me on to commons, I figured you were long overdue this award. ShakataGaNai Talk 22:47, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
Thank you! Actually this is my most successful promotion of Commons :-) --EugeneZelenko 14:45, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Map of Bukhara[edit]

Dear Eugene, I have scanned and uploaded a nice map of Bukhara showing street names and historical monuments Image:Bukhara StreetMap2.jpg. It comes from a tourist information brochure that is distributed for free to visitors in Bukhara. There is no copyright notice, no date, no author on the map or the brochure. I am assuming it is in public domain. Please let me know if we can keep it in Commons before I link the map to a wiki article. Thanks, --Zlerman 05:12, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

I don't think that is public domain image. According to copyrights law of Uzbekistan maps are subject to copyrights (article 6) and copyrights notice is optional (article 16). Term of copyrights is 50 years after publishing for anonymous works (article 38). I think it should be removed as Commons:Derivative works. --EugeneZelenko 14:52, 6 June 2008 (UTC)


Ciao, ho ricevuto un tuo messaggio! Ma parli italiano?--Giacomo Augusto 2 18:50, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't know Italian :-( Just several words... I deduced your native language from image description. --EugeneZelenko 15:39, 7 June 2008 (UTC)


Should work now (see history). You can't recursively add a category; you'll need to add them one by one up to a max of 100. -- Bryan (talk to me) 20:28, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Ahonc war[edit]

Привет Евген. Некоторые события здесь на Коммонс почему то переросли в бурную дискуссию в укрвики uk:Вікіпедія:Запити до адміністраторів#Аhonc wars 230 !!, хотя как мне представляется этот конфликт должен быть разрешен здесь. User:Alex Tora и User:Ahonc довольно сильно конфликтовали, когда были администраторами в укрвики, позже этот конфликт частично переместился сюда. Не берусь судить, существует ли запрет на подобные именования файлов, но, на мой взгляд, администратору можна было бы предварительно обсудить с автором подобные действия. Кроме того, столь пристальное внимание со стороны администратора к вкладу участника, с которым у него давний конфликт на коммонс, послуживший одной из причин для снятия админских полномочий в укрвики, на мой взгляд, не способствует конструктивной работе. Также, как и необоснованные простановки шаблонов [4]. Также мне не совсем понятны принципы удаления без обсуждения на странице Commons:Deletion requests/2008/06/07 ряда изображений японских флагов, созданных Алексом. Я полагаю, что оно крейне не очевидно. В таком случае, следовало бы удалить и Image:Flag of Japan.svg и все остальные японские флаги без обсуждений, т.к. их лицензионный статус подобен. Может быть следовало бы восстановить изображения и продолжить дискуссию? То, что Ahonc молодой админ и не знает пока всех тонкостей лицензионной политики вполне поправимая вещь, но игнорирование обсуждений проблем и чрезменое увлечение административными возможностями исправить сложнее. Может быть, следует кому либо из более старших и опытных админов коммонс на первых порах взять наставничество над ним, чтобы помочь избежать ряда ошибок? --Yakudza 22:25, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

По поводу Halych-Volhynia, там действительно я мог ошибиться, но всё же подтверждение того, что это флаг галицко-Волынского княжества нужно. А по поводу Алекса, то я не только к его изображениям предираюсь, как он думает. Для меня все равны. Моё внимание пристально не только к нему. Я и на изображения Камелота ставил nsd, и на Ильяроза и др. А то, что он написал такой коммент, так для админа это нормально. Когда админ много удаляет, всегда найдутся недовольные. Просто многие администраторы жалеют изображения или статьи, однако я безжалостный, я даже удалил несколько изображений, загруженных мной, потому что они нарушали здешние правила. И вообще, я смотрю впервую очередь на описание изображения, а не на его автора или содержимое. Если описание не удовлетворяет, то удаляю, либо ставлю nld/npd/nsd, даже не посмотрев на само изображение (благо скриптов, позволяющих сделать это здесь много, причём скрипт автоматически добавляет шаблон-предупреждение на страницу автора).--Ahonc (talk) 23:00, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Также, я полагаю, в связи со слабым знанием лицензионных тонкостей, ему следует воздерживаться от самостоятельного подведения итогов в сложных случаях, таких как Commons:Deletion requests/Image:Bilibin yaroslav.jpg, в котором вопрос соответствия п.2 Template:PD-Russia-2008/ru даже не был обсужден. --Yakudza 22:40, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Анатолий, в случае с Билибиным я итог не подводил. Я лишь увидел, что Коллард не удалил изображение, поэтому удалил его. А по поводу подведения итогов на Делешн-риквестс, то я туда особо не лезу, подвожу только в очевидных случаях (нет лицении/источника/разрешения, копивио), а читать длинные дискуссии на английском и разбирать, о чём они, мне лень. --Ahonc (talk) 23:00, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
Прошу прощения, я перенес обсуждение этого вопроса в рувики, я думаю там лучше знают тонкости PD-Russia. --Yakudza 00:04, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
Согласен, что спорные моменты лучше обсудить. Про те же флаги Японии — на Commons talk:Licensing. --EugeneZelenko 14:46, 9 June 2008 (UTC)


Поясните, если не сложно, в чем проблема? Фото делал лично. Acca 06:52, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

В законе РБ (а также и в других странах бывшего СССР) есть ограничение на то, в каких целях можно использовать фотографии работ других авторов. Смотрите 7 параграф статьи 19 закона РБ об авторском праве. --EugeneZelenko 14:42, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
Причем здесь другие авторы??? Это я автор! Это моё фото! И следовательно распоряжаюсь своим фото как хочу. Acca 13:17, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
Но у стены Цоя тоже есть авторы. Конфликты интересов авторов скульптур и фотографий и разрешаются законом об авторских правах. --EugeneZelenko 14:48, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
Вы не корректно используете закон о защите авторских прав. Так можно вообще ничего фотографировать. По крайней мере, в комерческих целях я это фото не использую, и даже если буду использовать в каких-нибудь выставках - это будет законно, это вообще мировая ЗАКОННАЯ практика.Acca 15:49, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
Лицензия Creative Commons Attribution ShareAlike подразумевает возможность использования фотографии в коммерческих целях. Материалы, которые не разрешается использовать в коммерческих целях, в Commons размещать нельзя. Смотрите Commons:Лицензирование. --EugeneZelenko 15:55, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
Я исправил, поставил другую лицензию. Acca 06:40, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
Аналогичная лицензия, запрещающая коммерческое использование — {{cc-by-nc-sa-3.0}}. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:40, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
Вот такая лицензия пойдет Template:GFDL-user-w или Template:GFDL-user-ru?
{{GFDL}} тоже разрешает коммерческое использование, а данном случае — {{noncommercial}}. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:23, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
Я ничего не понимаю, почему я свое фото не могу выложить, почему я не могу его использовать в коммерческих целях? Как выйти то из ситуации, если Вы, действительно, настолько компетентны юридически, подскажиите. Вот, кстати, аналогичное фото [5] Acca 03:40, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
Потому что главный предмет изображения Вашей фотографии - произведение созданное другими людьми, авторские права которых тоже защищаются законом (также как и Ваши).
Думаю, что это изображение можно загрузить как fair use в те проекты, которые это допускают. Или пытаться воздействовать на депутатов с целью изменения законов об авторском праве в лучшую сторону.
Image:Stena_Tsoya_1.jpeg добавил в Commons:Deletion requests/Image:Minsk stena Tsoi 2.JPG.
EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:50, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
Простите, что вмешивають, я не совсем понял о каком объекте авторского права идет речь о железобетонной стене или о рисунках на ней. Если первое, то это довольно тривиальное "архитектурное произведение" и наверняка не попадает под охрану АП, а если второе, то очевидно, что надписи на этой стене не имеют одного конкретного автора и их, вероятно, можно считать фольклорным произведением. Во всяком случае, они также достаточно тривиальны. --Yakudza (talk) 16:41, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
Второе. Знаете, на этой стене нет подписей авторов "кричалок". Каждый подходит и что-то рисует, пишет. Это народное достояние, как народная песня. Acca 03:58, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
Не думаю, что это произведение можно причислить к фольклору ввиду молодости лет. Да и фотографии Цоя и стихи как-то тоже на это не тянут. Скорее всего анонимное коллективное творчество. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:06, 14 June 2008 (UTC)


Пожалуйста переименуйте User:Uk-Kamelot в User:Kamelot--Kamelot 15:23, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Не могу сделать этого из-за того, что глобальная учётная запись уже создана. Надо её удалить (запрос на m:Steward_requests/SUL_requests#Requests_for_usurpation). Потом надо будет переименовать и создать глобальную учётную запись снова. --EugeneZelenko 15:28, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

PD Serbia images[edit]

I began to delete some images from here and at en.wikipedia that are blatant copyright violations. I snagged most of them from the President of Serbia's website, the Ministry of Defense will be harder to do, mostly because there is so many of them. User:Zscout370 (Return fire) 08:27, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Input from you both at Commons:Village pump#Serbian copyright law would be most welcome. Lupo 09:20, 10 June 2008 (UTC)


Re your mailing list comment: see Commons:Village pump#Panoramio. Lupo 06:34, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Chancev (talk · contributions · Number of edits)Chan (talk · contributions · Number of edits)[edit]

Здравствуйте Евгений. Если несложно, посмотрите, возможно ли переименовать мою учётную запись в User:Chan (как в Chan). Одинаковые имена нужны для объединения учётных записей. При регистрации это имя, кажется, было занято. Заранее спасибо. Chancev (talk) 04:10, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Да, это возможно. Небольшая формальность: разместите, пожалуйста, на Вашей странице в русской Википедии (или в комментарии в правке на ней), что Вы владеете учётной записью Chancev здесь. Пожалуйста, не создавайте объединённую учётную запись до переименования. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:14, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
ОК. На странице ru:Участник:Chan разместил необходимое объявление. Объединённую учётную запись не создавал. Chancev (talk) 08:37, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
✓ Done User:Chan was renamed to User:Chan (usurped) and User:Chancev was renamed to User:Chan.
EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:48, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

SUL vs. local 0 edit account[edit]


I just created a SUL from my dewiki login. I noticed that there is ab independent 'gms' user at commons - but which has no edits so far (see also for the sul-util output).

Can you rename this 'gms'@commons account, that I can use my 'gms'-SUL name to login into commons, too?

Thanks in advance.

Best regards Georg

It's possible, but you need to delete SUL at m:SR/SUL first, otherwise I will not able to rename you old account to gms. You could also use Commons:Changing username#Current Usurpation requests. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:09, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
You don't have to rename my 'old' 'bgw'@commons account - it only has 1-2 edits, and I only created it, because 'gms'@commons was already in use. The local 'gms'@commons has 0 edits and someone else created it.
I am just happy if you rename/delete the 'commons-local' 'gms'@commons user name, because it has no edits, such that I will be able to use my unfied/SUL 'gms' login for commons, too.
Thanks, Georg - --Bgw (talk) 06:44, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
✓ Done User:gms was renamed to User:gms (usurped). --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:27, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Advice / image conventions[edit]

Thanks for the Advice, do you have a tutorial how to rename an imagefile? I went over the first steps tutorial, but didn't find any information on that. greetings, --Isaenforcer (talk) 00:22, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Looks like image moving is not enabled on Commons yet. You could re-upload image under new name and place {{bad name}} on old one. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:30, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
Thank you, I have done that. --Isaenforcer (talk) 02:44, 18 June 2008 (UTC)


Dear Eugene, I just left you a message here, thanks.--Producer (talk) 15:30, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

✓ Done EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:33, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Many thanks and best regards.--Producer (talk) 15:37, 17 June 2008 (UTC)


The picture is the official logo of the project, created by "Centro de Referencia Linux", and it's under the GPL v2 license as the same way of ALLL the project, including software included, pictures, art, etc. The logo can't has copyright because this is a 100% free software and open source project, remember why Iceweasel exists. Please change the Tag because I don't know how to do it --> --Israphel (talk) 22:46, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Free license for software doesn't necessarily mean free license to its logo (for example, Mozilla Firefox). Could you please ask this project for copyrights status for logo? --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:33, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

The C.R.L. sent me an e-mail to tell me that EVERYTHING is GPL, including the logo. Now that information is in the Talk of the article Educanix (in spanish). Also he told me that he will put the information about the license in the Home Page of the project. Israphel (talk) 16:48, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Great! --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:37, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Which photo categories are acceptable?[edit]

hi! my image Image:Cerro morado 1.JPG got its categories

Category:Argentina Category:Volcanic landforms Category:Mendoza Province

even if the place is indeed located in Mendoza, in Argentina and it is indeed a volcanic landform. maybe 'Argentina' is a too broad category but the other two seem perfectly fit.

would you please tell me which is the accepted criteria for asigning categories to photos, in order to apply it from the start? many thanks,

Ricardo Bravo

I think will be good idea to put images in most relevant categories (Category:Payun Matru in your case, already included in categories mentioned by you). General categories could easily become overcrowded and useless for search. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:37, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Fast question from Photo Editor for textbook publisher in Washington, DC; immediate response needed[edit]

June 25, 2008

Dear Eugene Zelenko,

Please forward your email address and reply asap/immediately to

I found your photo at while doing photo research for a textbook publisher on a project. I thought your image might be appropriate for inclusion in a literature curriculum.

I am specifically seeking to confirm that you are scanner of the item, and therefore are the copyright holder of the photograph taken. I seek your permission to possibly publish it within the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License Version 1.2 and any other applicable laws.

With your permission, we will credit you for your work in the image's permanent description page. Please explicitly state the credit line you require, for example, Courtesy Anton Kitaycev.

I look forward to hearing from you at your earliest convenience. We are in a hurry to confirm the images that will be used.

Thank you,

Holly Marshall Photo Researcher for Pearson Digital Learning Group Washington, D.C.


I answered via e-mail. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:36, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

p.s. re: currency scans[edit]

Mr. Zelenko,

We are also interested in confirming that you are the holder of rights to this scan, as well, and may wish to publish it:

I look forward to hearing from you at your earliest convenience. We are in a hurry to confirm the images that will be used.

Thank you,

Holly Marshall Photo Researcher for Pearson Digital Learning Group Washington, D.C.



Hi! I'm new here and yesterday (June 27) I have created my first article. It was about a group of musicians from my university (here in Brazil). Well, I don't understand why you have deleted my pictures! I assure you the images are public domain! The logotypes were created by me! So, please, it would be very kind if you could give me some explanation. Thank you!

Are you sure that you just didn't redraw other people works in case of logotypes? As for Image:Gaperia-tusca.JPG - please upload better resolution with EXIF if you made this image yourself. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:40, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Well, it's not worth it! My article has been deleted too! The guy from Wikipedia confused GAP from GAPeria with GAP, the famous brand. And it was written there that GAPeria comes from Grupo de Apoio à Putaria = GAP. GAPeria is the bateria of Samba from here, University of Sao Paulo, created by GAP, the group I told you before. It seems he didn't read what I wrote. I'm not violating any copyright. The group of samba belongs to the most important university from Brazil and it's one of the best in the category "university bateria of samba", so I don't see reason for deleting the article. Anyway, thank you for your answer, sorry for the bad english and have a nice day! -- User talk:Bene1204 18h22min, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

ROLLYE2008.jpg & johnrook2008.jpg[edit]

I've been trying to upload two images, a picture of Rollye James and one of John Rook. I just saw your note where you deleted one of them because of attribution. I have the right to use both pictures-- and I sent emails from the owners of both (Jon Cornell for Rollye James and John Rook for John Rook) but I'm not sure I sent them to the right place (also not sure if I'll get a return email or if there's a place I should look online for disposition). Any help you can give me in getting these two pics uploaded would be much appreciated. Thanks!

Please read Commons:OTRS and Commons:Email templates. But images were definitely marked as own work incorrectly. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:38, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your help. Got it done.


Добрый вечер, Евгений. Если есть своя точка зрения на название категории, то не могли бы её высказать? --Vizu (talk) 18:14, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Я уже её высказал :-) К сожалению, Commons до сих пор не поддерживает перевод названий категорий... --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:34, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
Только я её почему-то не увидел:) Только вот это увидел: Агонк редактирует чужое обсуждение. --Vizu (talk) 14:48, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
Unfortunately we still doesn't have technical ability to keep both sides happy (category names translation). :-) Вроде бы в следующей правке он вернул всё назад, хотя и удалил изображение потом. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:54, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
Да, случайно получилось. Видимо страница не полностью загрузилась при редактировании. А подпись под изображением абсурдна так как оба слова образованы от Харько (Kharko) (Харько + ов, Харко + ів), буква о выпадает. А Kharki здесь вообще не причём.--Ahonc (talk) 15:06, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Итоги обсуждений[edit]

Небольшой вопрос. Каким образом в коммонс подводятся итоги обсуждений? Простым подсчетом голосов или учитываются аргументы и их сила, как это бывает в большинстве Википедий? Кстати, Агонк только вернул статус-кво, который был вот до этой правки [6]. Возможно, это должен был сделать какой-либо сторонний администратор, но почему-то за полгода такое противоправное переименование не было исправено никем из администраторов. --Yakudza (talk) 15:26, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Анатолий, тут DR за январь ещё не закрыты, а ты хочешь, чтоб до категорий дошло дело. Посмотри Commons:Categories for discussion/Current requests. там ещё с 2007 года запросов много.--Ahonc (talk) 15:31, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
Не знаю, на на мой взгляд, должны приниматься во внимание аргументы, как в в случае удалений, иначе будет «стенка на стенку». Думаю, что лучше всего, если итоги подведёт администратор, нейтрально относящийся к русско-украинским проблемам.
Всё-таки термин противоправное я бы не употреблял, поскольку это зависит от точки зрения.
EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:34, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

Thank you, sir. I will do my best to use the admin tools wisely. --Meno25 (talk) 15:51, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

My RfA[edit]

Thanks for supporting my RfA. --Túrelio (talk) 15:58, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Reverting back[edit]

Dear EugeneZelenko,
Would you kindly look at this please: my request here. Sincere thanks.--Producer (talk) 08:51, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Giggy already replied. I also don't see any problem. Could you please explain in details? --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:37, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Сделали ![edit]

Приветствую. Зря был поднят этот вопрос про Commons:Categories for discussion/Current requests/2008/06/Category:Kharkiv, все равно мы вас, кацапчиков, на раз сделали ! И никакие сторонники фофудьи помочь никогда не смогут. И никакого консенсуса не нужно, главное вовремя подвести итог да выбрать для этого правильного админа с правильными взглядами. Так что не нужно впредь поднимать тут такие темы, договорились ? Вот и ладушки. Спокойной ночи  ! --Spirit of Crow (talk) 14:59, 3 July 2008 (UTC)


Kafam karıştı, siz bunun telifinin kendime ait olduğunu ya da özgür lisans olduğunu belirtmem için kafa karıştıcı olmayan (GFDL gibisinden bilmediğim, aynı zamanda kavramakta güçlük çektiğim şeyler) bir şekilde ne yapmam gerektiğini söylermisiniz? Direkt GFDL deyince anlayamıyorum... GFDL'nin Türkçe'sini okuyorum anlıyorum ama ne yapmam gerektiğini bilmiyorum. Xianbataar (talk) 20:50, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't understand Turkish. You need to add license information into image description. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:25, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

bot flag[edit]

Hi, Eugene. I wrote a bot to calculate votes on FP images. I created account user:Tryitbot and I created test nominations on my own user page user:mbz1. I need to try the bot out before I ask for aproval. May I please ask you to add bot flag to my bot account. I promise to run it only on my test in my own user page. Thank you.I just realised I was login in my bot. I am user:mbz1--Tryitbot (talk) 01:02, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Thank you.--Mbz1 (talk) 15:33, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

STOP with paranoid harassment[edit]

Are you normal? This image is in good resolution. -- 10:08, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

If you do it youself (and didn't took from website), please upload full resolution with EXIF information. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:23, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Why did you recomend my uploaded picture, rio turtle jordan for deletion, claiming its a personal photo? It is a photo that aids the rio turtle page on wikipedia and clearly doesnt do any harm to anybody. Thanks

See Commons:Project scope. Could you please make a photo without person involved? --EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:14, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Attack Cake[edit]

Chocolate cake with white icing.JPG Chocolatefortcake.jpg Atomicfudge1.JPG GermanChocolateCake.jpg
6-te urodziny Wikipedii w Krakowie aa.JPG 5. urodziny polskiej Wikipedii - Wikitort 01.JPG Layered cake with cream.JPG Roberta's WikiCake.jpg
Gateau de bon mariage.jpg Dobos tort.jpg Pound layer cake.jpg Red velvet cake with whipped cream blueberries and strawberries.jpg
The attack cake is NOT a lie. Enjoy. --ShakataGaNai ^_^ 06:04, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
Thank you! I don't even know how to eat all of them :-( Looks so pretty! --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:47, 22 July 2008 (UTC)


Here it is WikiMatrix Rb85 (talk) 19:22, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Thank you very much, Rb85z37 (talk) 16:26, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Invocations of Abazagorathic Unholiday Grimness[edit] does hold any copyright, they honestly don't care who uses the image, as long as it get spread around. They're a small community so, it's not like they can sue anyone. I'm apart of the community.

Please use Commons:Email templates. Argument it's not like they can sue anyone will not solve problem. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:45, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

They've given me permission and I e-mailed it to the address listed, can you remove the notice?

Please reflect this in deletion discussion. Somebody should review permission and close request after that. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:55, 24 July 2008 (UTC)


Привет, EugeneZelenko.

Этот пользователь вынудил меня обеспокоить Вас, потому что он приписывает Вам твердение, что фотоматериалы сайта Александра Григорьевича Лукашенко якобы нельзя было загружать здесь. Я хотел бы привести Вам следующий отрывок из условий пользования сайта:

Русский: "Материалы Портала могут использоваться в средствах массовой информации, распространяться в сети Интернет без каких-либо ограничений по объему и срокам публикации. Единственным условием является ссылка на первоисточник. Никакого предварительного согласия на использование материалов Портала со стороны пресс-службы Президента Республики Беларусь не требуется."
Беларуская: Матэрыялы Партала могуць выкарыстоўвацца ў сродках масавай інфармацыі, распаўсюджвацца ў сетцы Інтэрнэт без якіх-небудзь абмежаванняў па аб’ёму і тэрмінах публікацыі. Адзінай умовай з’яўляецца спасылка на першакрыніцу. Ніякай папярэдняй згоды на выкарыстанне матэрыялаў Партала з боку прэс-службы Прэзідэнта Рэспублікі Беларусь не патрабуецца.

и попросить Вас потребовать восстановления съемки у этого легкомысленно удалившего ee пользователя. Я уже привел ему здесь отрывок на двух выставленных языках, но он по-видимому не обратил внимания на это. Спасибо заранее Bogorm (talk) 12:23, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

К сожалению, понятие использоваться требует уточнения, поскольку неясно, можно ли создавать производные работы без ограничений. Кстати, эта неясность присутствует на многих государственных сайтах стран бывшего СССР. Я когда-то писал письмо с просьбой уточнить, но оно осталось без ответа :-( Может быть Вы попробуете ещё раз? --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:54, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
"поскольку неясно, можно ли создавать производные работы без ограничений" - if the website says без каких-либо ограничений then I don't see why do you claim it is unclear.--Avala (talk) 23:59, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
Because it is a demand from the Wikimedia Foundation that we have to have proof that we can use images for any purpose, including modification and commercial reuse. Until we have that, we cannot have images from this site. User:Zscout370 (Return fire) 02:36, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
So if it says "without any restriction whatsoever" it's not a proof that we can use the image?--Avala (talk) 11:42, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
Sorry, but you cut phrase out of content (should be без каких-либо ограничений по объему и срокам публикации). Entire sentence could equally mean quoting (default of copyrights law of Belarus). --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:47, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
And the full sentence means "without any restriction whatsoever on publication" so what is the difference?--Avala (talk) 18:21, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
(To EugeneZelenko) Although I am struggling to conceal hitherto my disappointment with your stance, I would urge you to take a look at this succinct template/Vorlage and to expound with sources whether there are any obstacles to an image conforming to it (id est admissible in the German Wiki) as LukashenkoB.jpg to be uploaded in Commons and if so, why? I hope you are familiar with the restrictive policy towards uploaded images in the German Wiki (unlike the Eng.) and I would be flabbergasted if any objection to uploading an image, which is admissible in the German Wiki, arose. Anyway, if such one were to emerge, I would feel myself obliged to 1) address this question to the administrator community, the Russophone part in particular, and 2) consider uploading the image in the German Wikipedia, if a decent template is to be beheld only there and lament the attitude endured here. By the way, are there any templates equivalent to yonder? Bogorm (talk) 17:09, 29 July 2008 (UTC)


The image I uploaded was taken from It is merely a photograph of a famous journalist and should be within Wikipedia Commons copyrights.

Sorry, I see Copyright © 2007 That's Good Knowledge at source site. Where did you find that this image was licensed under free license? --EugeneZelenko (talk) 16:15, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Regarding all Aton Edwards (Doc Apocalypse) Image deletion requests --[edit]

Hi Seth Cohen here -- i am writing to inform the individual deleting the uploaded images that all (save one -- the New York Post clipping) are the personal property of Aton Edwards. If there are any questions, he can be directly reached at

He has given me permission to allow all uploaded images to be public domain. No copyright violations. I will peruse through Wikipedia to check through the rules.

Thank you,

Seth Cohen SRG PR

Please use Commons:Email templates. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:57, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Ahora mismo me pongo a ello[edit]

Muchas gracias por tu aviso. Ahora mismo categorizo la foto, a ver si me sale bien. Es que soy uno en esto... Saludos cordiales,


More image copyright problems[edit]

You said "Thanks for uploading Image:BrazeauPlant.jpg. I notice the image page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is unclear." but I cannot figure out how to make it right! When I uploaded the image (twice now), I filled in all the blanks saying it was entirely my work, I took the photo myself, etc. etc. What more could you possibly want? It appears that the system is not working - filling in the blanks and swearing it is my own work does not get through to whatever you are seeing. Clearly there needs to be a fix here! If you think the system IS working, then you need to provide a page explaining how to enter the details after uploading, because it does not good to provide the details during uploading. Harveybrown (talk) 23:45, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

If you took this photo yourself, could you please upload it in better resolution with EXIF data? --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:44, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Thank You[edit]

For changing my Username. --Matthias Süßen (talk) 15:11, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Re: adminship[edit]

Hey. I'm not leaving. :) --pfctdayelise (说什么?) 01:00, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Image:Zerstörte georgische Panzer in der Hauptstadt Südossetiens..jpg[edit]

Hello Eugene!

I think this image is stolen from somewhere in the Internet. What do you think? -- High Contrast (talk) 10:44, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

I think so too: small resolution, missing EXIF. However I can't claim I seen it somewhere in news. Nominated for deletion. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:48, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for your support. The Job is done - image has been deleted. -- High Contrast (talk) 15:47, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Image:Arundel Castle - motte and quadrangle, Kent, England (18 April 2006).JPG[edit]

Hi, can you please tell me the uploader of this image? I'd like to contact him and try to get the missing information. If I remember the deleted image correctly it was quite useful. TIA --h-stt !? 18:56, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

It was this Flickr image, had no Flickr review. Image is currently marked as "© All rights reserved", as are apparently all images in this set. The upload at the Commons was a transwiki made by User:Liftarn on June 5, 2007. The original upload was by en:User:98octane at the English Wikipedia on March 2, 2007 (dual-licensed {{self|GFDL-no-disclaimers|cc-by-2.5}}) Lupo 19:45, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
Thanks - but as the image was uploaded to en-WP on March 2nd, but to Flickr only on March 12th, 2007, I don't see why we should not trust him. He's Australian, his university career can be followed on Google, he obviously spent time in April and May of 2006 in UK and France and has finished a degree in Civil Engineering since, so taking pictures of castles fits very well. He published further images of the same castle (and of other motives) elsewhere as can be found by searching for his name. So why not on flickr? And nothing forces him to use a free license on flickr, just because he uploaded the same images here under GFDL and CC-by. Even his en-WP user name fits with some of his published images, as he seems to be a fan of race cars. Give him the benefit of doubt, restore this image and if necessary fill in missing information from his other images. --h-stt !? 07:07, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
Please contact Flickr user and ask him to change license. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:51, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
Why would I? I don't have a flickr account, I don't want one. The image was uploaded on flickr ten days after here. So the status there is absolutely irrelevant to the status here. Please restore it. --h-stt !? 06:06, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
Because of conflicting copyrights status of image in question. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:46, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Hello, my name is Luke (a.k.a. 98octane) and I took the Arundel photo the subject of this discussion. I absolutely confirm I am the photographer and uploader of the photograph to all the sites listed below. I have a copy of the image in higher resolution than available online to prove I am the photographer.

I've just created a Wiki Commons account so I can contribute to this discussion. My Wikipedia account is also under the name of "98octane": I also have two Flickr accounts:

1. intrepid_luke -
I use this account to upload my travel photos
2. 98octane -
I use this account to upload my automotive photos

h-stt's information about me is correct. I took the Arundel quadrangle photo in April 2006, and uploaded it to Wikipedia and Flickr in the following year. Additionally, I've given permission for the use of the image in the title banner of I didn't turn my mind to the consistency of the licences in respect of that photo between these two sites and I regret if any inconsistency has arisen.

The effect of offering a Commons licence on the image here effectly means the Flickr image also has a Commons licence (rather than "all rights reserved") because they are precisely the same image. It's a case of applying the lowest common denominator.

If you have any additional queries as to the use of the photo or my identity, please contact me via the email contained in my profile on this site or Flickr.

Therefore, please reinstate the Arundel photograph (and any others photos I uploaded under my 98octane username which have been deleted for the same reason) to Commons and the Arundel Castle article on Wikipedia.

Thank you to h-stt for his persistence in resolving this matter. --98octane 18:17, 31 August 2008 (EST)


Доброго времени суток! Могли бы Вы переименовать мою случайно созданную учетную запись Insider в Insider123 или в любое другое имя. А затем меня (Insider51) переименовать в Insider. На мете мне сказали что так можно сделать. --Insider51 (talk) 22:00, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Даю согласие на переименование моей учётной записи --Insider (talk) 22:02, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
✓ Done User:Insider was renamed to User:Insider (usurped2) and User:Insider51 was renamed to User:Insider. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:56, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
Спасибо Вам большое! --Insider (talk) 21:03, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Something need to expand more than a action.[edit]

  • I see something which I've upload to Commons've been removed by you with --==(Missing essential information: source, license and/or permission: since August 11, 2008)==--

I read again rule and GNU License, and some other recomment doc in Wikipedia ... but I don't really know why you removed them all? I think you're right and I trust your permission and carefully deleted them but I need a bit expand for that action (remove/delete). Can you let me know something about that? Anyway thanks for cleaning if they really need to destroyed from library. Nnq2603 (talk) 09:48, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

  • You didn't provide license information when uploaded these images. At least it should be {{Copyright by Wikimedia}} because of logos used there what is not so useful outside Wikimedia projects. Are you sure that you really need such images? --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:50, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
  • Alright, that's simply I think Wikipedia give freely permission for anyone copy/capture/feed info from Wikipedia under GNU License. I take some screenshot from my wiki-local-language's notice bar for used in Wikipedia. But if that even made a illegal in Commons, I'm sorry about that. And I accept I don't really need such of them now. Just a little question from me'd been reply by you as soon as possible, thanks about that again. Nnq2603 (talk) 15:23, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
Wikimedia's projects logos are copyrighted. Images are legal on Commons (there were some controversies on this topic). But usage outside Wikimedia projects will be restricted. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:27, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
  • Uhm, this case logos're not problem with copyright. I mean that, let me tell again cleanly: That images which I capture from my official Vietnamese wikipedia notice bar. Except they're images, not a rendered notice-bar-web-interface. And I used them in my personal article in vi.wikipedia. And logos include inside them (logos inside uploaded images) aren't illegal modified/added/edited, they're only added in Wikipedia Vietnam with permission from general Wiki operator/developer (Some my country Sysops already got general Wiki leader permission for use those logos, I only take a screenshot on them, they've made under Wiki environment). Anyway, I accept you remove them now I don't made any silent angry. It's all. Nnq2603 (talk) 15:23, 26 August 2008 (UTC)