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Evolution-tasks.png Pending tasks for : edit this list - add to watchlist - purge
  1. Monitor Commons:Requests for comment/Batch categorization requirements
  2. Repair Geograph templates in line with WSC's suggestions #Geograph problem raised: Nov 2012
  3. Consider WSC's request on under-categorized images #Nuther Geograph problem raised: Nov 2012
  4. LACMA M.2007.224.4 seems to be wrong at source.
  5. RFC on D codes (based on a dream).
  6. Explore as a possible source
  7. Chisel away at the list on Category talk:Images from USC Digital Library uploaded by Fæ (check needed)
  8. Library of Congress 100mb+ files
    1. An ocean of motion about Spanish commotions or the windy explosion of pot-hous oration LCCN2003681692 105MB Done
    2. Consular games - the game of brag - the game of hazard LCCN2003689149 113MB Done
    3. The eclipse at an end - and political tilting discovered LCCN2003689150 100MB Done
    4. 101MB
    5. 100MB
    6. The washing-tub expedition LCCN2003689156 115MB
    7. St. James's volunteers firing at a target at Kilburn Wells LCCN2003689161 140MB Done
    8. The father of the family takeing (sic) his eldest boy from school LCCN2006675448 TIFF (168.4mb)
    9. The dextrous trimmer or Pool Pill Garlick left in the suds LCCN2006676836 TIFF (118.0mb)
    10. Hell in triumph or The devil has got his own LCCN2006677045 TIFF (119.7mb)
    11. Fox's martyrs or The patriots in limbo LCCN2006678061 TIFF (183.9mb)
    12. John Bull fighting the French single handed LCCN2006678160 TIFF (110.8mb)
    13. King Joe disposing of his Spanish crown !!! LCCN2006678169 TIFF (113.4mb)
    14. Puck's palete LCCN2011660542 TIFF (141.1mb)
    15. A " bogus" cremation for the benefit of the "life-long Democrats" LCCN2011661357 TIFF (143.3mb)
    16. Thanksgiving day, 1885 LCCN2011661359 TIFF (142.5mb)
    17. The carol of the "waits" LCCN2011661367 TIFF (143.4mb)
    18. The old and the new year LCCN2011661369 TIFF (138.6mb)
    19. City flowers LCCN2011661371 TIFF (139.7mb)
    20. Our Japanese village LCCN2011661373 TIFF (139.7mb)
    21. Snowed in LCCN2011661375 TIFF (143.4mb)
    22. The angel of peace LCCN2011661377 TIFF (143.9mb)
    23. The Administration sawmill LCCN2011661379 TIFF (138.5mb)
    24. The one man power in our jury system LCCN2011661381 TIFF (143.0mb)
    25. Don't they wish they had never taken hold of it! LCCN2011661383 TIFF (137.4mb)
    26. The pirate publisher - an international burlesque that has has the longest run on record LCCN2011661385 TIFF (141.8mb)
    27. Cleveland's entry into Washington - March 4th. 1885 LCCN2011661387 TIFF (142.4mb)
    28. President Cleveland and his cabinet LCCN2011661426 TIFF (134.5mb)
    29. History repeats itself LCCN2011661430 TIFF (144.4mb)
    30. U.S. Grant LCCN2011661433 TIFF (141.7mb)
    31. The night mare LCCN2006678665 TIFF (140.2mb)
    32. The attack on our outer ramparts - first the house of refuge - then the public schools - then - the Constitution! LCCN2011661440 TIFF (143.7mb)
    33. "Peace" assured LCCN2011661446 TIFF (146.5mb)
    34. A view in Spain LCCN2006678817 TIFF (127.4mb)
    35. "Sheol" LCCN2011661750 TIFF (141.3mb)
    36. Two political paths LCCN2011661754 TIFF (140.9mb)
    37. Scientists assert that all diseases can be prevented by inoculation LCCN2011661758 TIFF (144.3mb)
    38. Harmony and envy LCCN2011661762 TIFF (141.7mb)
    39. The administration's hardest job LCCN2011661766 TIFF (143.5mb)
    40. In memoriam U.S. Grant LCCN2011661768 TIFF (140.2mb)
    41. Puck's political hunting-ground - how he has made game of the politicians LCCN2011661812 TIFF (141.7mb)
    42. Puck's notion of the kind of fancy-dress charity ball that would be a real, solid financial success LCCN2011661816 TIFF (141.1mb)
    43. This is what the "freedom of worship" bill means - can we hold the evil in check? LCCN2011661820 TIFF (141.6mb)
    44. Noxious growths in liberty's grounds LCCN2011661824 TIFF (141.7mb)
    45. The pyrrhic victory of the Mulligan guards in Maine LCCN2011661828 TIFF (147.4mb)
    46. A hard pull LCCN2011661832 TIFF (141.4mb)
    47. Hell broke loose, or, The murder of Louis, vide, the account of that unfortunate monarch's execution LCCN2006680657 TIFF (153.5mb)
    48. The false "friend of the workingman" LCCN2011661836 TIFF (142.3mb)
    49. Helping the rascals in - a burglarious scheme that may be suddenly spoiled LCCN2011661838 TIFF (144.7mb)
    50. Men may come, and men may go; but the work of reform shall go on forever LCCN2011661843 TIFF (141.0mb)
    51. "The Mulligan guard lies, but - surrenders" LCCN2011661847 TIFF (143.8mb)
    52. The transfusion of blood - may the operation prove a success! LCCN2012645151 TIFF (144.8mb)
    53. The World's International and Cotton Centennial Exposition, New Orleans, La., open from Dec. 1st 1884 to May 31st 1885 LCCN2012645153 TIFF (142.2mb)
    54. Crowding the cabinet-making business LCCN2012645155 TIFF (143.0mb)
    55. Puck's review of the past year LCCN2012645159 TIFF (141.1mb)
    56. Preserve your forests from destruction, and protect your country from floods and drought LCCN2012645164 TIFF (140.3mb)
    57. The contest of beauty LCCN2012645168 TIFF (139.9mb)
    58. Arlequin sur l'Hippogryphe a la croisade Lojoliste LCCN2006681091 TIFF (184.6mb)
    59. Het lusthuys van Pater Peters, en de Jesuwijten en Munniken, ontdekt door LCCN2006681092 TIFF (176.8mb)
    60. Passing everything on the road LCCN2012645172 TIFF (142.1mb)
    61. A desperate attempt to solve the mormon question LCCN2012645174 TIFF (140.8mb)
    62. A lenten dream LCCN2012645182 TIFF (143.6mb)
    63. Leap-year LCCN2012645186 TIFF (142.9mb)
    64. Democracy's disastrous egg-dance LCCN2012645191 TIFF (141.8mb)
    65. Blaine O'Maine LCCN2012645195 TIFF (139.8mb)
    66. Boney at Bayonne blowing a Spanish bubble LCCN2006681466 TIFF (117.7mb)
    67. Boney bringing home the truth from Spain LCCN2006681467 TIFF (113.7mb)
    68. Two of a kind LCCN2012645199 TIFF (147.0mb)
    69. A Spanish joke !!! LCCN2006681484 TIFF (112.4mb)
    70. More than she can carry LCCN2012645201 TIFF (143.1mb)
    71. An unpleasant ride through the presidential "haunted forest" LCCN2012645205 TIFF (144.6mb)
    72. The writing on the wall LCCN2012645210 TIFF (141.2mb)
    73. "A sail! A sail!!" LCCN2012645216 TIFF (145.3mb)
    74. A flag the Independents will fight under LCCN2012645250 TIFF (147.0mb)
    75. He can't beat his own record LCCN2012645419 TIFF (143.9mb)
    76. Raising the funds to buy the presidency LCCN2012645430 TIFF (141.8mb)
    77. The new Democratic eucalyptus tree purifies a political morass LCCN2012645434 TIFF (145.0mb)
    78. The universal church of the future - from the present religious outlook LCCN2012645438 TIFF (138.5mb)
    79. The great floods of 1883 - Germany's need and America's aid LCCN2012645440 TIFF (139.2mb)
    80. Our imitative "aristocracy" LCCN2012645446 TIFF (138.2mb)
    81. The end of a bad show LCCN2012645452 TIFF (137.5mb)
    82. "Take the next car!" LCCN2012645454 TIFF (139.2mb)
    83. The U.S. Hotel badly needs a "bouncer" LCCN2012645460 TIFF (138.0mb)
    84. The great advertising ball of the season LCCN2012645462 TIFF (138.3mb)
    85. Democratic harmony under the Jeffersonian banner LCCN2012645468 TIFF (140.4mb)
    86. The greatest show on earth - "who can ride the mule?" LCCN2012645470 TIFF (141.6mb)
    87. Life's ups-and-downs - Puck's improvement on Cole's "Voyage of Life" LCCN2012645495 TIFF (139.9mb)
    88. The operatic war in New York LCCN2012645537 TIFF (136.0mb)
    89. Let us have a good bankruptcy law, as a protection against the "preferred creditor" swindle LCCN2012645556 TIFF (134.6mb)
    90. Thanksgiving LCCN2012645611 TIFF (135.1mb)
    91. How to keep a girl LCCN2012645613 TIFF (135.8mb)
    92. Christmas at Washington LCCN2012645617 TIFF (140.3mb)
    93. The convention makers LCCN2006684142 TIFF (104.3mb)
    94. Reason against unreason LCCN2012645621 TIFF (127.5mb)
    95. Licensed wreckers - in the hands of the receivers LCCN2012645631 TIFF (126.3mb)
    96. Under false colors LCCN2012645633 TIFF (126.9mb)
    97. Rushing the season LCCN2012645638 TIFF (128.4mb)
    98. The declaration of dependence LCCN2012645642 TIFF (127.7mb)
    99. Longfellow LCCN2012647200 TIFF (128.4mb)
    100. Beyond control LCCN2012647204 TIFF (129.9mb)
    101. Speaker Keifer's kaleidoscopic speech, at the N.Y. Chamber of Commerce banquet, held at Delmonico's, May 9th, 1882 LCCN2012647206 TIFF (130.2mb)
    102. Science, or sport? - A modern spectacle after an old model LCCN2012647208 TIFF (129.3mb)
    103. True reform of Parliament,-i.e.-patriots lighting a revolutionary-bonfire in new Palace Yard LCCN2006684995 TIFF (105.2mb)
    104. First annual picnic of the "Knights of Labor" - more fun for the spectators than for the performers LCCN2012647217 TIFF (133.2mb)
    105. The murderer's straight route to heaven - bringing religion into disrepute LCCN2012647219 TIFF (130.9mb)
    106. Venison & Claret, or Sr. Humpy. Haunch, Bart. of Glutton Hall LCCN2006685173 TIFF (118.8mb)
    107. Roast beef & port or Bully Bramble Esqr., Justice of Peace in Wasp Town LCCN2006685175 TIFF (115.3mb)
    108. A summer smoke-cloud LCCN2012647234 TIFF (131.7mb)
    109. Congressional cracksmen LCCN2012647268 TIFF (124.6mb)
    110. Uncle Sam's neglected farm LCCN2012647270 TIFF (127.7mb)
    111. The deadly upas tree of Wall Street LCCN2012647280 TIFF (127.2mb)
    112. Cut-throat business in Wall Street. How the inexperienced lose their heads LCCN2012647282 TIFF (126.4mb)
    113. Garfield LCCN2012647283 TIFF (129.7mb)
    114. Our Indian policy - a house of cards LCCN2012647285 TIFF (128.8mb)
    115. A grand Shakesperian (sic) revival LCCN2012647290 TIFF (130.5mb)
    116. Puck's own Yorktown celebration LCCN2012647294 TIFF (128.6mb)
    117. "Sic 'em!" LCCN2012647297 TIFF (128.0mb)
    118. Escaping from the old shell LCCN2012647300 TIFF (133.9mb)
    119. Broken banks - defaulting cashiers - negligent directors - who is responsible? LCCN2012647302 TIFF (130.0mb)
    120. The " enfant ter(ri)ble" of Europe LCCN2012648777 TIFF (146.2mb)
    121. Throw 'em out! LCCN2012648781 TIFF (149.3mb)
    122. The modern colossus of (rail) roads LCCN2014645351 TIFF (139.3mb)
    123. The freedom of election or hunt-ing for popularity and plumpers for Maxwell LCCN2006688902 TIFF (118.5mb)
    124. Constitutional Club LCCN2006690504 TIFF (143.6mb)
    125. The sour prospect before us, or The ins throwing up LCCN2006690521 TIFF (101.1mb)
    126. The life of William-Cobbett, -written by himself. No. 8 LCCN2007677435 TIFF (110.0mb)
    127. -Affairs. The sweet prospect behind us, or The outs in office LCCN2007677506 TIFF (101.1mb)
    128. Represantant d'une grande nation LCCN2010647164 TIFF (170.2mb)


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A barnstar for you![edit]

Example of the potentially encyclopaedic becoming encyclopaedic :-)
Vitruvian Barnstar Hires.png The Technical Barnstar
For helping me move my work to Flickr and your huge quantity and quality of contribution that escape beyond any user. Additionally, your ability to see what is potentially encyclopedic. Your determination in the comments and wisdom, commons would be a better place if we could have some of all those faculties that make you an excellent user, an excellent person. This humble acknowledgment is on behalf of those who are awake and are able to see what you do, selflessly and sincerely. The Photographer (talk) 14:18, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
Thanks! Much appreciated. -- (talk) 14:29, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

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Deleted Files[edit]

@Hedwig in Washington: If these were deletions of blank pages, you seem to have used an odd notice (making it appear I need to take some action) and they could be speedied without one as far as I'm aware.
As I'm not an admin, working out what these were before deletion is a bit hard. I can craftily transform the last image using its photo ID like, but avoiding this with a better deletion log comment would be nice. -- (talk) 15:26, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
I looked at some and those where blank pages you requested a speedy deletion for. --Denniss (talk) 16:03, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
I am sorry Fæ. I used the VFC and pressed the wrong button (delete with notification). Usually I am more careful with your blank pages, seems there's always room for improvement. You shouldn't get any notification about blank pages in the future. --Hedwig in Washington (mail?) 23:48, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

Whales category[edit]

Harpooned whale from American angler, 1895. Historic plates like this, as part of my batch uploads, will no longer appear in Category:Whales.

Hi. Please stop adding whaling logbook pages to the whales category. Also, please remove all the whaling logbook pages you added to the whales category. That page is now more than ever just a wastebin. Thank you. PhysalusAntiquorum (talk) 19:19, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

Added {{categorise}} which neatly solves it. -- (talk) 19:42, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. PhysalusAntiquorum (talk) 22:57, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) PhysalusAntiquorum, why is it wrong to add Category:Whales to the filepage of an image displaying a whale? Of course, more detailed subcats like Category:Whales in art, Category:Dead whales, or Category:Unidentified Mysticeti (used in this image →) are better than the parent category, but adding no category pertaining whales to an image like this will keep it from being dissiminated into the appropriate subcategories, and hide it away from possible reusers, confined to the limbo of uncategorized files — itself a huge wastebin indeed, filled with millions of items that should be populating the category tree instead. -- Tuválkin 23:38, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
Perhaps you should read what I actually wrote. Thanks. PhysalusAntiquorum (talk) 01:10, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

File:A British soldier gives a V-for-Victory sign to German prisoners captured at El Alamein, 26 October 1942. E18522.jpg[edit]

File:A British soldier gives a V-for-Victory sign to German prisoners captured at El Alamein, 26 October 1942. E18522.jpg (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
Commons:Deletion requests/File:A British soldier gives a V-for-Victory sign to German prisoners captured at El Alamein, 26 October 1942. E18522.jpg 2601:805:C001:9962:A9BB:203:571A:F60C 23:42, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

Charles Wilkes[edit]

You've removed several images from Category:Charles Wilkes lately but some of them were in place there. That picture (and engraving from it) is ascribed to Wilkes. In that caricature Wilkes is drawn twice: man with bicorne hat in the boat and by the fire. On the bas-relief he was imaged too: one of two men on the left side.
P.S.: Excuse my terrible English. --Kaidor (talk) 09:16, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

Thanks Kaidor, this is because they also appear in Category:United States Exploring Expedition which is a child of Category:Charles Wilkes; so this seems to be correct. As a general rule, files should not be in both parent and child categories, so this has been caught up in my "housekeeping" of the book plates project. -- (talk) 09:21, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
Can you give me a link to this "general rule"? --Kaidor (talk) 12:07, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
COM:OVERCAT -- (talk) 12:14, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
You are right that such categorization is over but the reason of it is, in my opinion, incorrect arrangement of the categories. It's wrong that category about expedition is a child of category about its member. I would suggest to arrange them in this way. --Kaidor (talk) 15:12, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
Go ahead, be bold. I suggest using help:cat-a-lot if you do not already. I have no personal investment in the way the categories are currently arranged. -- (talk) 15:17, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
Are there any grammatical errors in names of categories on my sсheme? --Kaidor (talk) 15:31, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
I'd change "drawings of <artist>" to "drawings by <artist>", but that the only wording that jumps out at me. -- (talk) 15:34, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

File source is not properly indicated: File:New rational athletics for boys and girls (1917) (14597593108).jpg[edit]

File:New rational athletics for boys and girls (1917) (14597593108).jpg (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) Scoopfinder(d) 10:21, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

File source is not properly indicated: File:Every boy's book of railways and steamships (1911) (14778864773).jpg[edit]

File:Every boy's book of railways and steamships (1911) (14778864773).jpg (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) Scoopfinder(d) 10:21, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

File source is not properly indicated: File:The Cincinnatian (1917) (14596839018).jpg[edit]

File:The Cincinnatian (1917) (14596839018).jpg (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) Scoopfinder(d) 10:21, 29 September 2015 (UTC)


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@Scoopfinder: Please comment at Commons:Administrators'_noticeboard#Empty_image_pages or the Phabricator task. -- (talk) 10:30, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

File:RAF SAC(T) undertaking maintenance work on Spitfire TE311 LF XVIE in the Battle of Britain Memorial Hangar at RAF Coningsby. MOD 45158869.jpg[edit]

File:RAF SAC(T) undertaking maintenance work on Spitfire TE311 LF XVIE in the Battle of Britain Memorial Hangar at RAF Coningsby. MOD 45158869.jpg (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
Commons:Deletion requests/File:RAF SAC(T) undertaking maintenance work on Spitfire TE311 LF XVIE in the Battle of Britain Memorial Hangar at RAF Coningsby. MOD 45158869.jpg DrKiernan (talk) 13:35, 29 September 2015 (UTC)


Just a delayed thanks for the GLAM dashboard for the Bodleian Libraries. GLAM dashboard is a wonderful tool and very useful in reporting. Cheers, MartinPoulter (talk) 13:44, 29 September 2015 (UTC)


{{Autotranslate|1=File:Les Huguenots - opéra en cinq actes (1800) (14778742841).jpg|base=Image license}} Sfan00 IMG (talk) 15:30, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

@Sfan00 IMG: Please comment at Commons:Administrators'_noticeboard#Empty_image_pages or the Phabricator task. -- (talk) 15:41, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

File:From left, U.S. Air Force Brig. Gen. Patrick Higby, commander of the 81st Training Wing (TRW); Airman Basic Tiffani Ali and Airman 1st Class Jordan Boykin, both with the 338th Training Squadron; and Command 130920-F-BD983-020.jpg[edit]

File:From left, U.S. Air Force Brig. Gen. Patrick Higby, commander of the 81st Training Wing (TRW); Airman Basic Tiffani Ali and Airman 1st Class Jordan Boykin, both with the 338th Training Squadron; and Command 130920-F-BD983-020.jpg (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
Commons:Deletion requests/File:From left, U.S. Air Force Brig. Gen. Patrick Higby, commander of the 81st Training Wing (TRW); Airman Basic Tiffani Ali and Airman 1st Class Jordan Boykin, both with the 338th Training Squadron; and Command 130920-F-BD983-020.jpg Kajetanolo (talk) 15:21, 30 September 2015 (UTC)


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@Magog the Ogre: Notices every day are not going to stop the server failures. Please comment at Commons:Administrators'_noticeboard#Empty_image_pages or the Phabricator task so that an investigation by WMF ops will be prioritized. Thanks -- (talk) 09:30, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
@JuTa: Thanks for adding licenses, but this really needs a proper investigation. See links above. -- (talk) 09:43, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

File:Part of Northfield. NYPL1515717.tiff (NYPL truncation fixes)[edit]


Hi! I'm sorry to bother you, but I'm wondering about the status of this item from the 2015 archive of your discussion page. Vzeebjtf (talk) 08:31, 1 October 2015 (UTC) Vzeebjtf (talk) 08:33, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

I had forgotten about this one. I'll try to put aside some time later today to refresh my memory. -- (talk) 11:21, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
Thanks a lot! Vzeebjtf (talk) 12:39, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

File:Bulletin of the Natural Histort Museum. Geology series (1996) (20485927112).jpg[edit]

File:Bulletin of the Natural Histort Museum. Geology series (1996) (20485927112).jpg (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
Commons:Deletion requests/File:Bulletin of the Natural Histort Museum. Geology series (1996) (20485927112).jpg FunkMonk (talk) 18:46, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

Your Script or Bot again[edit]

Thanks for your earlier effort in relocating all the Seed catalog images you had placed in Cat Seeds instead of Cat Seed catalogs. It took me three weeks to clear up everything and reorganize. I just found your uploads of images in Category:Books by year and they are full of single images which are not Books. each set should be in a Category: (book title) then in each year. This is too much to do by hand?? WayneRay (talk) 19:36, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

If they are BHL related, then a book title category has been added. The majority are from the Internet Archive though, and if you use the link on the image page like (find matches), this shows you all current images on Commons with the same book identity. It's then easy to use cat-a-lot to add a book title category to all these. If you create a specific category that is a sub-set of the book title used in the filename, then all the images in it will eventually get tidied up by a housekeeping task, see #Better_categories. This makes a lot of the back-breaking recategorizations unnecessary if you would rather just bang out a hundred new book categories without doing all the tidying up to remove year categories etc.
As the given book titles can be terrible rambling compound names, I have not attempted to let any automated task create the categories. -- (talk) 23:14, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
    • Thanks, that is what looks to have happened. There are links to sub cats but they in turn are not linked to Book by Year etc. I had this on the seed catalog site and just hand reconnected the main Cat. There must be a better way because images of book pages are not books etc. If, as you say, there is a housekeeping Bot around I will come back to them later, I have other things to edit. Thanks again. WayneRay (talk) 14:28, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

File:Old Mexico and her lost provinces; a journey in Mexico, southern California, and Arizona, by way of Cuba (1883) (14801398833).jpg[edit]

Glitched upload? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sfan00 IMG (talk • contribs)

Please comment at Commons:Administrators'_noticeboard#Empty_image_pages or the Phabricator task so that an investigation by WMF ops will be prioritized. Thanks -- (talk) 22:23, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

File:G-AGBD(PH-ARB Buizerd).jpeg[edit]

Hi Fae,

You are more familiar with this subject than I am. Could you please check if this file is really okay? The inadequate source makes it impossible to check for me if the licensing tagg is used correctly. Natuur12 (talk) 23:37, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

The photograph does not seem to be available online from any obvious sources. It is probably fair to claim the photographer is unknown, I have swapped to PD-UK-unknown as the claim that this would have been Crown Copyright is currently unverifiable. -- (talk) 00:16, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
Thanks! Natuur12 (talk) 11:00, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

Untraceable empty uploads?[edit]

@Magog the Ogre: I'm separating these two, there's something more odd happening than before. I'll add an analysis section below. The key problem for me, is that in these circumstances, though I can individually fix them, I can't autodetect them as a daily bit of housekeeping, which means wasting more volunteer time all round.


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Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 04:44, 3 October 2015 (UTC)


By untraceable, I mean that a SQL report of my uploads with empty text pages does not seem to find these. Database lag would not be relevant as the first here was uploaded a day before being marked. Both the example files were uploaded on 2nd October and neither were renamed.

Here's my SQL report for October so far, finding Flickr PIDs for image uploads created with no description:

Empties report run ~07:00 on 3rd October:

Date PIDs
20151001 14568741089, 14568612458, 14747688831, 14732256346, 14781916985, 16679000182, 14582224058, 14743111376, 14769157632, 14576858670, 14593581479, 14595252517, 14802009303, 14746816791, 14740128636, 14766850054, 14776591734, 14560405458, 14748177364, 14772155015, 14801398833, 14801735373, 14576373637, 14760559574, 14765433345, 14786131993, 14760426874, 14769539111
20151002 14581926457, 14594184129, 14596580837, 14765208762, 14782608262, 14781887512, 14745747166, 14595131608, 14741401106, 14782550662, 14566147957, 14752579475, 20494175554, 14778752571, 14770241951, 14584667789, 14577883817, 14761266774, 20205012318, 20206682649, 20393140075, 14762676362, 14742708586, 14598458490, 14782475982, 14577022987, 14781700801, 14778583681, 14574134058, 14755933286
20151003 14772266602, 20573045625, 14764790541, 14581299539, 18159603242, 14748867375

Oh nuts, I've worked it out.

@Túrelio:@Steinsplitter: If images are rotated before I get around to repairing "empty" image text pages due to WMF server drop-outs, then my (hopefully temporary) bit of housekeeping to detect these and re-post the text will not find the image, as it has been overwritten. I could start creating more sophisticated SQL, but only a few files would be affected, and I am really hoping to avoid investing larger and larger amounts of volunteer time to fix something that WMF Ops ought to look into. I'd appreciate it if you could instead help by lobbying to get Phabricator:T113878 prioritized for investigation.

In the meantime, it would be great if you could hold off from rotating files if they have blank text pages. It would be better to flag them as having no licence, or waiting for the relevant bot to categorize it. Thanks -- (talk) 07:08, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

O.k. But what's better: to flag them or just don't touch them? --Túrelio (talk) 07:15, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
I stopped the rotatebot yesterday. But toolslabs does not synch my crontab. Shshsh. (fixed with moving the script to a other location) --Steinsplitter (talk) 07:18, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
If you can put up with it, it's probably better to just leave "empties" for a day first, notifying me about them does not actually help. If I am about then I'll try to fix all empties as a list from SQL within the first day of upload (obviously I need to sleep, and if this problem never gets fixed by WMF Ops then we (I) need to consider some rather daft extra fixes to compensate for WMF server failures rather than keeping on doing this "by hand"). Keep in mind, this problem did not exist until 25th September, before that I had uploaded 300,000 files of this type with no "empties" occurring and I had made no changes to my use of the Commons API... -- (talk) 07:25, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

@Túrelio:@Steinsplitter: Forget the above. I have spent some time creating an alternative query that will pick up overwritten images, so it should cater for pre-fixed rotations. It's slower, several minutes rather than seconds, but not terrible if I'm only going to run it once or twice a day. Note that if I auto-fix "empties", this will mean any categorization or other improvements will be lost... so don't invest too much time categorizing today's WMF server failures!

As an example, here's my first list, which I'm about to fix:

| Date       | PID                                                                                             |
| 2015-10-03 | 14748867375,14581121659,14779802464,14576645899,20438470234,16697658882,20374603579,20369589109 |

-- (talk) 12:47, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

Anyway, among the rotation-requiring uploads today, so far I found none with missing description-template. --Túrelio (talk) 13:10, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
Well, that was a classical. One minute later I stumbled over File:History of American missions to the heathen, from their commencement to the present time (1840) (14596040840).jpg (without description template). Probably I shouldn't have mentioned it. ;-) --Túrelio (talk) 13:17, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
Excellent, it looks like a WMF server drop-out just after I ran the above SQL. Please go ahead and use the rotatebot, it is a good test of my new query. -- (talk) 13:23, 3 October 2015 (UTC)


Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 04:00, 4 October 2015 (UTC)


Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 04:00, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

Realated to problem above?[edit]

Aloha! FYI: File:Egyptian birds for the most part seen in the Nile Valley (1909) (14752229381).jpg doesn't have a source or author. I removed the no source tag. Best, --Hedwig in Washington (mail?) 04:09, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

Found another one: File:Newfoundland at the beginning of the 20th century - a treatise of history and development (1902) (14793869253).jpg --Hedwig in Washington (mail?) 04:10, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
Oh oh: Clin
That's all I could find in category media w/o source since 09.27. I used Article 1 of the How-to-Handle-Computer-Problems-Handbook: I blamed the software. Clin Best, --Hedwig in Washington (mail?) 04:19, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
Nice images, worth having. They were being missed in my bit of search magic, probably as the file text pages were above the 400 byte level, or were rotated before the earlier less smart query could spot them, and are now outside of my date range for searches. It would actually be better if folks just pinged me with a list of any 'empty' Internet Archive sourced images rather than adding information by hand, as I have a simple script to rebuild them after WMF ops failures.
(Fae gives waives a wand and invokes "repairo" quietly so as not to wake up Weasley, and makes a note to ask a friendly daemon to take a deeper look ... daemon comes back to say that there don't seem to be any others in the last 20 days, Hedwig got them all)
Please consider lobbying on Phabricator:T113878 or chatting on IRC with the right ops people to get this a better priority. It does not seem to be going away.
Summary table of empty text pages uploaded by Fæ in Sept/Oct
| Empty | Total | Ratio | Date       |
|     0 |  8880 | 0.00% | 2015-09-08 |
|     0 | 11513 | 0.00% | 2015-09-09 |
|     0 | 11957 | 0.00% | 2015-09-10 |
|     0 |  7176 | 0.00% | 2015-09-11 |
|     0 |  9696 | 0.00% | 2015-09-12 |
|     0 |  7857 | 0.00% | 2015-09-13 |
|     0 | 13251 | 0.00% | 2015-09-14 |
|     0 | 10375 | 0.00% | 2015-09-15 |
|     0 |  4473 | 0.00% | 2015-09-16 |
|     0 | 11479 | 0.00% | 2015-09-17 |
|     0 | 10490 | 0.00% | 2015-09-18 |
|     0 |  5787 | 0.00% | 2015-09-19 |
|     0 | 13440 | 0.00% | 2015-09-20 |
|     0 | 13427 | 0.00% | 2015-09-21 |
|     0 | 11713 | 0.00% | 2015-09-22 |
|     0 |  9988 | 0.00% | 2015-09-23 |
|     0 | 11077 | 0.00% | 2015-09-24 |
|    29 | 10301 | 0.28% | 2015-09-25 |
|    35 | 10134 | 0.35% | 2015-09-26 |
|    28 |  8842 | 0.32% | 2015-09-27 |
|     7 |  6457 | 0.11% | 2015-09-28 |
|    28 |  9382 | 0.30% | 2015-09-29 |
|    28 | 10740 | 0.26% | 2015-09-30 |
|    28 |  9267 | 0.30% | 2015-10-01 |
|    30 |  9590 | 0.31% | 2015-10-02 |
|    27 |  9396 | 0.29% | 2015-10-03 |
|     6 |  7063 | 0.08% | 2015-10-04 |

The above table is a 'live' update showing that the problem did not exist until 25 September (my upload process for IA is unchanged) and has been creating failures for the last 10 days. -- (talk) 04:48, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

Crap. I left a cmt on Phabricator. Do you want a canned notice via template? --Hedwig in Washington (mail?) 05:22, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
Not needed. The database reports will end up being the most convincing evidence for any ops investigation. -- (talk) 05:24, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
OK, I'll ignore those files then. Removing the no source or no license templates for ggod measure tho. --Hedwig in Washington (mail?) 05:53, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
If you spot any that are more than a few days old, drop a note again. At the moment I'm only handling Internet Archive sourced images, the problem may creep up elsewhere. -- (talk) 11:02, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

Poking the organ grinder[edit]

My edit at (just in case it's a typo in the bot). Revent (talk) 05:54, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

Not Faebot's typo, that's the WMF that cannot spell. :-) -- (talk) 09:07, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
I figured, just thought I'd mention it. Revent (talk) 09:53, 5 October 2015 (UTC)