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Evolution-tasks.png Pending tasks for : edit this list - add to watchlist - purge
  1. Monitor Commons:Requests for comment/Batch categorization requirements
  2. Repair Geograph templates in line with WSC's suggestions #Geograph problem raised: Nov 2012
  3. Consider WSC's request on under-categorized images #Nuther Geograph problem raised: Nov 2012
  4. LACMA M.2007.224.4 seems to be wrong at source.
  5. RFC on D codes (based on a dream).
  6. Explore as a possible source
  7. Chisel away at the list on Category talk:Images from USC Digital Library uploaded by Fæ (check needed)
  8. Library of Congress 100mb+ files
    1. An ocean of motion about Spanish commotions or the windy explosion of pot-hous oration LCCN2003681692 105MB Done
    2. Consular games - the game of brag - the game of hazard LCCN2003689149 113MB Done
    3. The eclipse at an end - and political tilting discovered LCCN2003689150 100MB Done
    4. 101MB
    5. 100MB
    6. The washing-tub expedition LCCN2003689156 115MB
    7. St. James's volunteers firing at a target at Kilburn Wells LCCN2003689161 140MB Done
    8. The father of the family takeing (sic) his eldest boy from school LCCN2006675448 TIFF (168.4mb)
    9. The dextrous trimmer or Pool Pill Garlick left in the suds LCCN2006676836 TIFF (118.0mb)
    10. Hell in triumph or The devil has got his own LCCN2006677045 TIFF (119.7mb)
    11. Fox's martyrs or The patriots in limbo LCCN2006678061 TIFF (183.9mb)
    12. John Bull fighting the French single handed LCCN2006678160 TIFF (110.8mb)
    13. King Joe disposing of his Spanish crown !!! LCCN2006678169 TIFF (113.4mb)
    14. Puck's palete LCCN2011660542 TIFF (141.1mb)
    15. A " bogus" cremation for the benefit of the "life-long Democrats" LCCN2011661357 TIFF (143.3mb)
    16. Thanksgiving day, 1885 LCCN2011661359 TIFF (142.5mb)
    17. The carol of the "waits" LCCN2011661367 TIFF (143.4mb)
    18. The old and the new year LCCN2011661369 TIFF (138.6mb)
    19. City flowers LCCN2011661371 TIFF (139.7mb)
    20. Our Japanese village LCCN2011661373 TIFF (139.7mb)
    21. Snowed in LCCN2011661375 TIFF (143.4mb)
    22. The angel of peace LCCN2011661377 TIFF (143.9mb)
    23. The Administration sawmill LCCN2011661379 TIFF (138.5mb)
    24. The one man power in our jury system LCCN2011661381 TIFF (143.0mb)
    25. Don't they wish they had never taken hold of it! LCCN2011661383 TIFF (137.4mb)
    26. The pirate publisher - an international burlesque that has has the longest run on record LCCN2011661385 TIFF (141.8mb)
    27. Cleveland's entry into Washington - March 4th. 1885 LCCN2011661387 TIFF (142.4mb)
    28. President Cleveland and his cabinet LCCN2011661426 TIFF (134.5mb)
    29. History repeats itself LCCN2011661430 TIFF (144.4mb)
    30. U.S. Grant LCCN2011661433 TIFF (141.7mb)
    31. The night mare LCCN2006678665 TIFF (140.2mb)
    32. The attack on our outer ramparts - first the house of refuge - then the public schools - then - the Constitution! LCCN2011661440 TIFF (143.7mb)
    33. "Peace" assured LCCN2011661446 TIFF (146.5mb)
    34. A view in Spain LCCN2006678817 TIFF (127.4mb)
    35. "Sheol" LCCN2011661750 TIFF (141.3mb)
    36. Two political paths LCCN2011661754 TIFF (140.9mb)
    37. Scientists assert that all diseases can be prevented by inoculation LCCN2011661758 TIFF (144.3mb)
    38. Harmony and envy LCCN2011661762 TIFF (141.7mb)
    39. The administration's hardest job LCCN2011661766 TIFF (143.5mb)
    40. In memoriam U.S. Grant LCCN2011661768 TIFF (140.2mb)
    41. Puck's political hunting-ground - how he has made game of the politicians LCCN2011661812 TIFF (141.7mb)
    42. Puck's notion of the kind of fancy-dress charity ball that would be a real, solid financial success LCCN2011661816 TIFF (141.1mb)
    43. This is what the "freedom of worship" bill means - can we hold the evil in check? LCCN2011661820 TIFF (141.6mb)
    44. Noxious growths in liberty's grounds LCCN2011661824 TIFF (141.7mb)
    45. The pyrrhic victory of the Mulligan guards in Maine LCCN2011661828 TIFF (147.4mb)
    46. A hard pull LCCN2011661832 TIFF (141.4mb)
    47. Hell broke loose, or, The murder of Louis, vide, the account of that unfortunate monarch's execution LCCN2006680657 TIFF (153.5mb)
    48. The false "friend of the workingman" LCCN2011661836 TIFF (142.3mb)
    49. Helping the rascals in - a burglarious scheme that may be suddenly spoiled LCCN2011661838 TIFF (144.7mb)
    50. Men may come, and men may go; but the work of reform shall go on forever LCCN2011661843 TIFF (141.0mb)
    51. "The Mulligan guard lies, but - surrenders" LCCN2011661847 TIFF (143.8mb)
    52. The transfusion of blood - may the operation prove a success! LCCN2012645151 TIFF (144.8mb)
    53. The World's International and Cotton Centennial Exposition, New Orleans, La., open from Dec. 1st 1884 to May 31st 1885 LCCN2012645153 TIFF (142.2mb)
    54. Crowding the cabinet-making business LCCN2012645155 TIFF (143.0mb)
    55. Puck's review of the past year LCCN2012645159 TIFF (141.1mb)
    56. Preserve your forests from destruction, and protect your country from floods and drought LCCN2012645164 TIFF (140.3mb)
    57. The contest of beauty LCCN2012645168 TIFF (139.9mb)
    58. Arlequin sur l'Hippogryphe a la croisade Lojoliste LCCN2006681091 TIFF (184.6mb)
    59. Het lusthuys van Pater Peters, en de Jesuwijten en Munniken, ontdekt door LCCN2006681092 TIFF (176.8mb)
    60. Passing everything on the road LCCN2012645172 TIFF (142.1mb)
    61. A desperate attempt to solve the mormon question LCCN2012645174 TIFF (140.8mb)
    62. A lenten dream LCCN2012645182 TIFF (143.6mb)
    63. Leap-year LCCN2012645186 TIFF (142.9mb)
    64. Democracy's disastrous egg-dance LCCN2012645191 TIFF (141.8mb)
    65. Blaine O'Maine LCCN2012645195 TIFF (139.8mb)
    66. Boney at Bayonne blowing a Spanish bubble LCCN2006681466 TIFF (117.7mb)
    67. Boney bringing home the truth from Spain LCCN2006681467 TIFF (113.7mb)
    68. Two of a kind LCCN2012645199 TIFF (147.0mb)
    69. A Spanish joke !!! LCCN2006681484 TIFF (112.4mb)
    70. More than she can carry LCCN2012645201 TIFF (143.1mb)
    71. An unpleasant ride through the presidential "haunted forest" LCCN2012645205 TIFF (144.6mb)
    72. The writing on the wall LCCN2012645210 TIFF (141.2mb)
    73. "A sail! A sail!!" LCCN2012645216 TIFF (145.3mb)
    74. A flag the Independents will fight under LCCN2012645250 TIFF (147.0mb)
    75. He can't beat his own record LCCN2012645419 TIFF (143.9mb)
    76. Raising the funds to buy the presidency LCCN2012645430 TIFF (141.8mb)
    77. The new Democratic eucalyptus tree purifies a political morass LCCN2012645434 TIFF (145.0mb)
    78. The universal church of the future - from the present religious outlook LCCN2012645438 TIFF (138.5mb)
    79. The great floods of 1883 - Germany's need and America's aid LCCN2012645440 TIFF (139.2mb)
    80. Our imitative "aristocracy" LCCN2012645446 TIFF (138.2mb)
    81. The end of a bad show LCCN2012645452 TIFF (137.5mb)
    82. "Take the next car!" LCCN2012645454 TIFF (139.2mb)
    83. The U.S. Hotel badly needs a "bouncer" LCCN2012645460 TIFF (138.0mb)
    84. The great advertising ball of the season LCCN2012645462 TIFF (138.3mb)
    85. Democratic harmony under the Jeffersonian banner LCCN2012645468 TIFF (140.4mb)
    86. The greatest show on earth - "who can ride the mule?" LCCN2012645470 TIFF (141.6mb)
    87. Life's ups-and-downs - Puck's improvement on Cole's "Voyage of Life" LCCN2012645495 TIFF (139.9mb)
    88. The operatic war in New York LCCN2012645537 TIFF (136.0mb)
    89. Let us have a good bankruptcy law, as a protection against the "preferred creditor" swindle LCCN2012645556 TIFF (134.6mb)
    90. Thanksgiving LCCN2012645611 TIFF (135.1mb)
    91. How to keep a girl LCCN2012645613 TIFF (135.8mb)
    92. Christmas at Washington LCCN2012645617 TIFF (140.3mb)
    93. The convention makers LCCN2006684142 TIFF (104.3mb)
    94. Reason against unreason LCCN2012645621 TIFF (127.5mb)
    95. Licensed wreckers - in the hands of the receivers LCCN2012645631 TIFF (126.3mb)
    96. Under false colors LCCN2012645633 TIFF (126.9mb)
    97. Rushing the season LCCN2012645638 TIFF (128.4mb)
    98. The declaration of dependence LCCN2012645642 TIFF (127.7mb)
    99. Longfellow LCCN2012647200 TIFF (128.4mb)
    100. Beyond control LCCN2012647204 TIFF (129.9mb)
    101. Speaker Keifer's kaleidoscopic speech, at the N.Y. Chamber of Commerce banquet, held at Delmonico's, May 9th, 1882 LCCN2012647206 TIFF (130.2mb)
    102. Science, or sport? - A modern spectacle after an old model LCCN2012647208 TIFF (129.3mb)
    103. True reform of Parliament,-i.e.-patriots lighting a revolutionary-bonfire in new Palace Yard LCCN2006684995 TIFF (105.2mb)
    104. First annual picnic of the "Knights of Labor" - more fun for the spectators than for the performers LCCN2012647217 TIFF (133.2mb)
    105. The murderer's straight route to heaven - bringing religion into disrepute LCCN2012647219 TIFF (130.9mb)
    106. Venison & Claret, or Sr. Humpy. Haunch, Bart. of Glutton Hall LCCN2006685173 TIFF (118.8mb)
    107. Roast beef & port or Bully Bramble Esqr., Justice of Peace in Wasp Town LCCN2006685175 TIFF (115.3mb)
    108. A summer smoke-cloud LCCN2012647234 TIFF (131.7mb)
    109. Congressional cracksmen LCCN2012647268 TIFF (124.6mb)
    110. Uncle Sam's neglected farm LCCN2012647270 TIFF (127.7mb)
    111. The deadly upas tree of Wall Street LCCN2012647280 TIFF (127.2mb)
    112. Cut-throat business in Wall Street. How the inexperienced lose their heads LCCN2012647282 TIFF (126.4mb)
    113. Garfield LCCN2012647283 TIFF (129.7mb)
    114. Our Indian policy - a house of cards LCCN2012647285 TIFF (128.8mb)
    115. A grand Shakesperian (sic) revival LCCN2012647290 TIFF (130.5mb)
    116. Puck's own Yorktown celebration LCCN2012647294 TIFF (128.6mb)
    117. "Sic 'em!" LCCN2012647297 TIFF (128.0mb)
    118. Escaping from the old shell LCCN2012647300 TIFF (133.9mb)
    119. Broken banks - defaulting cashiers - negligent directors - who is responsible? LCCN2012647302 TIFF (130.0mb)
    120. The " enfant ter(ri)ble" of Europe LCCN2012648777 TIFF (146.2mb)
    121. Throw 'em out! LCCN2012648781 TIFF (149.3mb)
    122. The modern colossus of (rail) roads LCCN2014645351 TIFF (139.3mb)
    123. The freedom of election or hunt-ing for popularity and plumpers for Maxwell LCCN2006688902 TIFF (118.5mb)
    124. Constitutional Club LCCN2006690504 TIFF (143.6mb)
    125. The sour prospect before us, or The ins throwing up LCCN2006690521 TIFF (101.1mb)
    126. The life of William-Cobbett, -written by himself. No. 8 LCCN2007677435 TIFF (110.0mb)
    127. -Affairs. The sweet prospect behind us, or The outs in office LCCN2007677506 TIFF (101.1mb)
    128. Represantant d'une grande nation LCCN2010647164 TIFF (170.2mb)

File:Part of Northfield. NYPL1515717.tiff[edit]

Thank you for adjusting the Viele file (last topic).

This file also doesn't belong with the ID, NYPL 1515717.

Thanks for your help!. Vzeebjtf (talk) 20:42, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

When I looked at the last case, I did notice the file I was uploading as a replacement also exists on Commons under the wrong filename. I'm unsure what the cause was, possible lags in file uploads may have caused some sort of interative issue. If you find more cases, please list them here. My volunteer time is limited over the next couple of weeks, and I have a number of things put on my backlog already, so I would rather let some cases build up and then schodule time to investigate this properly, rather than fix odd cases. Thanks for raising this for attention. -- (talk) 21:06, 29 December 2014 (UTC)
OK. Vzeebjtf (talk) 03:11, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

Only partly downloaded:

Some of the filenames in these category have truncated NYPL numbers:

For now. Vzeebjtf (talk) 03:11, 30 December 2014 (UTC) Vzeebjtf (talk) 05:16, 3 January 2015 (UTC) Vzeebjtf (talk) 09:49, 3 January 2015 (UTC) Vzeebjtf (talk) 23:43, 5 January 2015 (UTC) Vzeebjtf (talk) 01:46, 6 January 2015 (UTC) Vzeebjtf (talk) 10:04, 7 January 2015 (UTC) Vzeebjtf (talk) 10:41, 7 January 2015 (UTC) Vzeebjtf (talk) 12:07, 7 January 2015 (UTC) Vzeebjtf (talk) 07:27, 8 January 2015 (UTC) Vzeebjtf (talk) 12:07, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

I'm done. Vzeebjtf (talk) 06:01, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

FP Promotion[edit]

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File:Close quarter battle training 130317-A-GQ805-002.jpg[edit]

This file is Upload error file. --木の枝(talk) 2015.7.10 0:41 (JST)

Thanks for pointing it out. Unfortunately it is broken at the source. I have marked it for speedy deletion. I have a "reuploader" script for DVIDS files, if you can supply the DVIDS number (this one was 935868), then it is much easier for me to reupload several files at once. Thanks -- (talk) 15:48, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

File:Double Intersection Warren Truss Bridge, Spanning Blackledge River, Colchester, New London County.jpg[edit]

Hello Fæ, I uploaded a jpg edited version of a file uploaded by you. I have two questions, first : is my CC-BY-SA-4.0 license correct or must I remove it? two : what is the date of the photo, ca. 1970? -- Christian Ferrer 11:20, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

Transcoding an image does not add any new creative work, so {{PD-USGov-NPS}} still applies. If you, say, did some complex digital restoration, then a claim of attribution would be suitable and enforceable, if you wanted it. In this case, it probably is best to not add an attribution constraint as it has no legal basis for enforcement (i.e. a claim of damages under moral rights if a reuser fails to respect them).
By the way, I have in the past run projects where I created jpegs for large tiffs and uploaded both formats. However Commons' thumbnail creation has improved since then and there is no need to do this if the objective is to use images on Wikipedia. If the rationale is that the tif will not display in the zoomviewer, then that's understandable, though keep in mind that this may well be fixed at some point (maybe years hence) and we will need to find a way to merge these back, rather than having lots of duplicates.
Dates, we actually do not know the date of the photographs. This was one of 12 photos, as you can find on the parent HAER record online. See for a listing of photos and for the full HAER report. The documents were written up after 1968, and there is a reference to a 1978 letter, however this does not mean that this photograph was not taken earlier than these dates, but we can deduce that the latest possible date was 1978 (a terminus ante quem). You may be able to improve on these dates if you research the photographer and the HAER numbering system, on the presumption they were sequential. -- (talk) 11:38, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
Thanks, I removed my license, yes it is an attempt of digital restoration, I guess (hope) a bit successful, in the purpose of a future potential nomination at FPC. And if it is successful at fpc, I will try some other digital restorations on some of your files and others too. Thanks. -- Christian Ferrer 11:40, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
Ah, no worries. In which case it probably is worth searching around to see if a photographer was named (I can't find them, but I do see the environmental analyst named in the report). For FPC purposes you may consider cropping from the left a little more, so that where the beams reach the edge of the photograph are perfectly symmetrical. Good luck with it, I'm sure out of the 290,000 photographs in this batch upload that there are plenty of potential FPC quality images. :-) -- (talk) 11:48, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
Yes, for some reason the photographer for this HAER survey appears not to have been recorded (see where it is listed as 'Unknown'). Unfortunate. Revent (talk) 17:15, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

File:Instruction poster for urine-diverting dry toilet (UDDT) in low-income area Bulbul near Nairobi, Kenya (10543355195).jpg[edit]

File:Instruction poster for urine-diverting dry toilet (UDDT) in low-income area Bulbul near Nairobi, Kenya (10543355195).jpg (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
Commons:Deletion requests/File:Instruction poster for urine-diverting dry toilet (UDDT) in low-income area Bulbul near Nairobi, Kenya (10543355195).jpg Themightyquill (talk) 15:13, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

Bot uploads from Sustainable Sanitation Alliance Flickr feed[edit]

About a hundred of these failed the bot license review, they are under CC-BY-NC-SA on Flickr. (They are in Category:Recent unfree Flickr images). Do you know if this was, possibly, an error in the tagging on Flickr (that could be corrected) or should we go ahead and delete these? Revent (talk) 07:07, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

I have investigated, and changed the code. Unlike my other Flickr uploads, this was a custom run with code dating from over a year ago.
Inside the source of the image files, the license on Flickr has been pulled in, but there was no consequential check. For example on File:Gto EmerSan-Berlin 150529 -006 (18598504722).jpg the image page has the hidden comment <!-- Flickr license at time of upload: Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike License -->.
I have now adapted this to do a positive check, rather than presume that CC-BY-SA applied (as it appears to have done in the previous two upload runs on the SuSanA stream). Licenses that are not of the (currently 5) right free types will be noticed and the images skipped from upload. See code line 411.
@Revent: please go ahead with deletion and I'll re-start my run from the beginning, though this will not affect files already uploaded. -- (talk) 08:23, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
Will do. Thanks for checking. Revent (talk) 08:30, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
Ok, done, 101 files nuked. Revent (talk) 08:37, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for your help. -- (talk) 08:40, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

@Revent: post mortem; the images were all re-uploaded after the stream owner fixed the copyright at source. :-) -- (talk) 13:52, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

Fair enough, I had wondered (as I mentioned above) if it was a mistake on that end, when uploading to Flickr. Revent (talk) 19:37, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

Categorization Request 3[edit]

Hi Fæ

I would have one last request if you have time doing it. In the cat Category:Amada44 Species there are currently 2300 images of plants and organisms with botanical names without fitting category. I checked through all of them and removed any not having a botanical name. What would be great if you could modify the script ( I had a look at it to see if I could do it myself but my programming skills are far to low for understanding your script :-( ) to add a cat: [[Category:Firstname lastname]] to all the images and then go to all the created cats and add [[Category:Firstname]] to all the newly created [[Category:Firstname lastname]] cats. Would this be doable? Would you have time? Amada44  talk to me 16:18, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

It can be done, for example Noaabot creates categories as it goes along. I'll aim to have a look at it in the next few days. -- (talk) 09:34, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
@Amada44: Categorization creation started. With some urgency can you work on formatting and adding descriptions to the newly created categories appearing in Category:Undescribed species? By creating these categories without being any sort of expert in biological taxonomies myself, I feel I'm likely to become a target of complaints about creating mad rogue bots. :-)
Parent species will not be created where these are under 4 letters long (e.g. "AH" for "AH Alcospira") and the images will remain untouched by my script. Thanks -- (talk) 13:38, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
You are a Star-5 points.svg. Yes, I will check them. I'm watching your talk-page so in case a botanist chooses you as a target I will take the hit! Thank you soon much! cheers, Amada44  talk to me 18:15, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
✓ Done :-) ... with a backlog of 260+ categories at Category:Undescribed species for you to check and add descriptions to. -- (talk) 05:33, 20 July 2015 (UTC)



You just uploaded some images from Tallinn, Estonia. There is no FOP for Estonia, have you checked the age of all the buildings? /Hangsna (talk) 19:29, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

Hi, these are part of a Village Pump request. I suggest letting the upload run for a while and then looking at the intersection of Category:Photographs by Christopher Michel and Tallinn. The alternative to housekeeping would be to exclude all photographs from that stream where the word Tallinn occurs, which would probably be more excessive. -- (talk) 21:34, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
@Hangsna: I think all the relevant files have been uploaded now. If you check this search, you can see that there are 80 photographs which mention Tallinn. This does not guarantee they were actually taken in Tallinn, as the Flickrtags have been used crudely (many files are titled "Helsinki", so I presume they were taken there). I only visited Tallinn once, many years ago. If you know the area, could you have a browse through the search and raise any that are doubtful under a deletion request? Thanks -- (talk) 13:35, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
I dont know the area, like you i only visited once. :) However, since some are tagged "Helsinki, Finland" and some "Tallinn, Estonia" i think that we can safely assume that the images were taken were they seem to have been taken. I would suggest that all images that show up in that search and that is mainly shots of buildings should be deleted. /Hangsna (talk) 14:03, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
Also the categories for that batch need to be checked. All images (looks to me) having double categories is not correct. The should have categories for either Tallinn or Helsinki, regardless of that the photographer made a trip to both. /Hangsna (talk) 14:06, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
Category sorting is going to remain an issue with these. Some of it can be done by cat-a-lot, others by VFC or similar. As this was a VP request, I'm hoping that others will join in with this housekeeping.
I have used Category:Photographs by Christopher Michel (check needed) as a temporary category to stick suspect images in. After removing images with no buildings, or buildings which are obviously over 200 years old, only a handful remain to be checked over. -- (talk) 14:21, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

Can you please take greater care in categorising images?[edit]

Hi, I'm working through some of the images you've recently uploaded of Exercise Talisman Sabre 2015 (an Australia-US-NZ-Japan military exercise), and it's a bit of a frustrating experience. File:Talisman Sabre 15 150707-A-WX507-751.jpg was uploaded with the category "Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson" (a US military base in Alaska), but the details for the photo show that it was actually taken in Australia? Similarly, File:U.S., Australia execute boat raid in support of amphibious assault 150711-M-PK203-105.jpg was categorised only as 31st Marine Expeditionary Unit (a US Marines unit) when the subject of the photo is a Japanese soldier attached to the marines for this exercise. File:I Corps Soldiers experience Australian culture 150706-A-UG106-220.jpg is also categorised only as "Joint Base Lewis-McChord" (a US military base near Seattle) when it was actually taken at a Koala park in suburban Brisbane, Australia. These are just three examples. I imagine that you're using a bot to handle the uploads here, but I think that either its parameters need to be adjusted, or you should work through the images after they're uploaded to check that the categories are relevant. Categories like these don't accurately capture what the photo shows, and make them needlessly difficult to use (and run the risk of people accidentally misinterpreting them). Regards, 23:49, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

Hi. The three examples you give are problematic. Two have been categorised based on the DVIDS location field, which are set by the uploading military officer and should be a reliable specific field to set categories by. I doubt I would have removed these categories based on a visual check, considering how prominent the location fields are, and there seems little to do unless the wrong locations represent a significant pattern of bad location data at DVIDs (in which case I could start ignoring it as unreliable, in fact I only started to include this in category tests a few months ago). The remaining one is debatable. Though the soldier was Japanese, he was attached to the Marine Expeditionary Unit, in this scenario I do not understand why the category is wrong as the photograph represents the work of the Marine Expeditionary Unit.
Please keep in mind these are a sample out of over 200,000 uploaded DoD images using the same processes developed over the last 2 years, so the categorization error rate based on feedback and my checks is now remarkably low compared to all other batch upload processes and manual upload processes. -- (talk) 03:54, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for your reply Fæ. I had selected those three examples for illustrative purposes only, and the problem here is wider spread. Other recent examples of incorrect categories include [1], File:I Corps Soldiers experience Australian culture 150706-A-UG106-017.jpg, [2], [3], [4], [5]. This appears to have also occurred last year as well [6]. Could you please double check these uploads? (the ones of I Corps personnel in Brisbane and the US troops parachuting into Australia in particular) There's also the issue of considerable under-categorisation - for instance, many of the photos you uploaded categorised only as 31st MEU actually depict mixed US and Australian units (leaving aside the issue of the photos which depict only Japanese personnel), several depicted the Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott, and I don't think that any placed images in Category:Talisman Sabre 2015, which is one of the more useful categorisations here. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 05:39, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
Keep in mind that if you want to populate one of the Operations categories, or indeed create one of the many missing ones, then thanks to the "bucket category" it is fairly easy to build a useful search like this one, then simply block add to a top level Operations category for further sorting, and visual checks, using cat-a-lot.
This does not directly resolve the category issues you highlight, however one of smarter things I can do for these uploads is add negative matches of the type "if this category is matched, then do not match this one", which was a particularly helpful improvement for frequent matches to both parent and child/grandchild categories, such as you might get with locations/addresses. I can also simply drop categories that give lots of false matches as not worth the hassle.
I'll continue to think about the examples you raise, it is worrying if the location field is unreliable, however my impression is that the error level is low at DVIDs for this. I'll think about whether I can test that impression in some way.
From your feedback here, I'll also try to be more cautious in selecting the initial set up of which photos will be chosen. -- (talk) 05:55, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

Two HABS/HAER requests[edit]

Could you please hoover up this and this, which were missed in the original run? I'll take care of categorization. Much obliged. Choess (talk) 04:40, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

I'll think about it. :-)
The way the HABS project worked was to scrape the NPS archive, create a XML file with mappings to info template fields, then run this through the COM:GWT for the actual upload. This is complex enough to only be worth the volunteer time for a significant batch (thousands rather than tens).
What I can do is think about how to run an update, or select an album of images for checking or direct upload (i.e. without going via the GWT for speed reasons). I am wondering why these were skipped in the first place. It might be that there was something odd about the HABS id, or something is missing from the archive website data... not sure.
It may take me a long while to revisit this, so if the two images are more urgently needed, then it would be sensible for you to crack on with a manual upload and just use some of the other HABS uploads as an example to follow for layout. -- (talk) 06:05, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
No problem then, I'll get them myself when I have a chance. I just thought having a bot do it would ensure better metadata consistency, but I'll take care on that. The two color photos from this survey also got skipped, to add another data point.
The mislabeled picture I mentioned last year (!) has been taken down, but there's no replacement up yet. I don't want to think about what kind of digitization backlog is involved. Thanks again for uploading all these; it's been a tremendous bonanza. Delaware is coming along pretty well, and I've been able to geotag most of the exterior shots (at least for extant buildings). Choess (talk) 04:43, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

File:In Superior Court of the County of San Bernardino, State of California. Department One. Cucamonga Vineyard Co. et al., plaintiff vs. San Antonio Water Co., defendant; no. 9187 (1907) (14785176505).jpg[edit]

File:In Superior Court of the County of San Bernardino, State of California. Department One. Cucamonga Vineyard Co. et al., plaintiff vs. San Antonio Water Co., defendant; no. 9187 (1907) (14785176505).jpg (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
Commons:Deletion requests/File:In Superior Court of the County of San Bernardino, State of California. Department One. Cucamonga Vineyard Co. et al., plaintiff vs. San Antonio Water Co., defendant; no. 9187 (1907) (14785176505).jpg Amitie 10g (talk) 18:39, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

File:Tallinn, Estonia (19154394051).jpg[edit]

File:Tallinn, Estonia (19154394051).jpg (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
Commons:Deletion requests/File:Tallinn, Estonia (19154394051).jpg Hangsna (talk) 06:41, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

Wrong town[edit]

You may want to have a look at Category:Saint Petersburg, where you uploaded several images obviously not belonging to this city. --A.Savin 22:34, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

✓ Done thanks. -- (talk) 22:42, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

John Stuart Mill, Considerations on Representative Government (1st ed, 1861).pdf[edit]

Hi! Just wondering why you added "File:John Stuart Mill, Considerations on Representative Government (1st ed, 1861).pdf" to "Category:Photographs by Royal Australian Historical Society"? I'm not seeing the connection. — SMUconlaw (talk) 08:09, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

There isn't one. I need to mass undo the addition...
✓ Done Thanks for highlighting the bad matches. -- (talk) 12:54, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
Ah, OK. Thanks. I was wondering if there was something I wasn't seeing. :-) — SMUconlaw (talk) 23:51, 24 July 2015 (UTC)


6,851 R Colecția Costică Acsinte

Hi Fae. I am very glad that you instructed your bot to post Costică Acsinte pics from Flickr Commons. Can you please add this {{PD-RO-photo}} to all the images too? Cezar — Atelierele Albe (talk)

✓ Done along with a slow housekeeping process to add the template retrospectively. Thanks for noticing the upload, perhaps you could post a note about it where Romanian article writers hang out? Hopefully these will be of use for research and encourage some new articles about Romanian history. :-) -- (talk) 15:42, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

DR Russian envelope with (c) painting[edit]

Hi Fae! I added some info from the Commons:Deletion requests/File:USSR EWCS №33 Union of Artists congress sp.cancellation.jpg to Commons:Stamps/Public_domain#Russia. Would you take a peek and see if there need to be any changes? I think I got the gist of the discussion transferred. Thanks for your time! --Hedwig in Washington (mail?) 02:01, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

@Hedwig in Washington: I'm flattered to be asked. No problem with this addition, though the principle makes me pause, as it appears a contradiction to the way we read the transferability of a free release for other types of image. In particular if we have a small resolution (or a poor print) image and it is confirmed as released on a CC-BY license, then we safely presume that all reproductions are covered by this license. However due to the oddness of Russian law, we are presuming that a Russian-PD image does not automatically mean that other reproductions of the identical 2D artwork are PD. In this regard I think we have it wrong, as it is not an implementable policy...
In practice we need several deletion requests to foster a healthy debate, and set a more solid precedent, possibly with a case book to follow. -- (talk) 17:56, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
ISTM that there are already plenty of situations where reproductions can be free without affecting the copyright status of the originals. FoP for example: I can publish my own photo of a modern Canadian building as PD or CC-0, but the architect’s rights over the original plans, models, & renderings would remain intact, likewise his or her ability to copyright commissioned photography of the building or otherwise exploit the intellectual property. If someone were to produce replicas of a modern public sculpture based entirely on PD photography from multiple angles, I expect the sculptor would still be able to prevent their sale or claim royalties, just as if they’d been made from an unauthorized cast.
Regarding paintings (not under FoP in most places), I think a small engraving or lithographic print is sufficiently distinguishable from the original, even if intended to be as faithful a reproduction as possible within the constraints of the medium. When scanned for reproduction, the higher the resolution the more apparent the characteristic artefacts (viz lines or dots).—Odysseus1479 (talk) 19:47, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
Well, I like to ask you for your opinion because you're always halpful, we sometimes hold different views, and you are pretty level-headed. Makes sense to ask someone who's not necessarily telling me what I'd like to hear. Enuf applesauce. Regarding transferability: Someone could get the idea to crop the (c) painting and upload it here as PD. Frankly, I don't think that's a problem since the copyright status of the original work is not changed to PD. It certainly sounds and feels a little odd. Regarding the casebook: Really good idea, I'll try to find some stuff. --Hedwig in Washington (mail?) 02:00, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

File source is not properly indicated: File:Discoveries among the ruins of Nineveh and Babylon; with travels in Armenia, Kurdistan and the desert- being the result of a second expedition undertaken for the Trustees of the British museum (1859) (17544956763).jpg[edit]

{{Autotranslate|1=File:Discoveries among the ruins of Nineveh and Babylon; with travels in Armenia, Kurdistan and the desert- being the result of a second expedition undertaken for the Trustees of the British museum (1859) (17544956763).jpg|base=Image source}} Leoboudv (talk) 01:44, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

 ? ! -- (talk) 04:39, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
Fae I just now ran across this while doing Flickr review. Leoboudv was correct in noting that that file's source URL is not correct. If you follow the source URL you end up on a Flickr page that contains the first version of the page (the folded version of the page). The second version you uploaded (the unflolded version of the page) does not appear to be located at all on Flickr. If the source of the unfolded version of the page is from, you should provide that as the source. —RP88 (talk) 04:52, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
The notice is a threat to delete the image. It is obviously the same page unfolded. It is thus PD due to age and deletion would not be within our policies. We have plenty of scanned PD old images with no link to any online source needed. Should anyone follow the link given to view the book, Book Viewer, the uploaded unfolded version can be seen. For these reasons this templated warning is thoughtless bureaucracy. -- (talk) 05:00, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
It's not helpful to think of routine notices as threats, but I do agree that this image is PD. I'd be happy to update the source and license for you if you like (obviously the current source URL and license tag of {{Flickr-no known copyright restrictions}} are not correct). Could you tell me where you got this image? I can't find the image you uploaded; the closest I could find was a lower resolution version of the unfolded page). —RP88 (talk) 05:22, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
Licence changed to pd-100. As mentioned the image can be seen by following the Book Viewer link already on the image page, the resolution can be changed there by zooming. -- (talk) 05:29, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
Ah, I somehow overlooked the zoom feature. I've update the source to be the Internet Archive instead of Flickr, changed the author to John Gardner Wilkinson (the creator of this illustration), moved the flickr URL to the other versions field, and updated the license to indicate why it is PD in the U.S. Thanks for your help and patience. —RP88 (talk) 05:50, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

For newer images in the IA batch upload, I have added the book view link as an additional source link. This will avoid confusion if the image is re-cropped from the IA source. For example, see File:The American journal of science (1880) (17963764680).jpg. -- (talk) 08:40, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

Images mis-identified[edit]

Hi, hopy you do not mind me contacting you, I believe that some images you uploaded have been mis-identified. File:Flamborough, scar, Yorkshire, England-LCCN2002708308.tif, File:Flamborough, scar, Yorkshire, England-LCCN2002708308.jpg, File:Flamborough scar Yorkshire England.jpg which are essentially the same image have been identified as Flamborough scar while the image indicates on bottom left that it is Giggleswick scar. The description on the first two in the catalogue also indicates Giggleswick scar though the latter has it mis-identified as Flamborough scar. Can you have a look and rename if appropriate. Thanks Keith D (talk) 10:54, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

@Keith D: I have only spent a couple of minutes looking at this, and am short on time to do much more. I have moved the files based on your observation, please feel free to make further corrections to the texts or categorization. Thanks for highlighting the source error. -- (talk) 16:23, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for the moves, I have made changes to categorisation & text. May be someone with more knowledge of area will be able to do more. Keith D (talk) 17:51, 28 July 2015 (UTC)


(I appreciate you don't want me posting here, but I hope you take this in good faith and I'm posting here rather than AN to minimise attention). If Haraldbischoff has a reputation for suing people, and for not taking "sorry, it won't happen again" as an acceptable answer, I don't think "this could boil down to misusing Commons for a money-making scam" is a wise thing to put in writing. You may wish to revise your language / delete as appropriate. -- Colin (talk) 12:52, 27 July 2015 (UTC)