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Please link images[edit]

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Thank you. Siebrand 08:47, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

I hope this is some sort of standard template message, as far as I know I have categorized all the pictures I've uploaded, using CommonSense or my own (not very) common senses ;-) If there are any spesific media I've uploaded that generated this message, please let me know what was lacking so that I can improve myself. Finnrind 11:32, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
OK, I found one myself, a norwegian bishop that somehow escaped categorization. Should be fixed now... Finnrind 11:45, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Image Tagging Image:Knud_gislesen.jpg[edit]

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Thanks for uploading Image:Knud_gislesen.jpg. I notice the image page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is unclear. If you have not created this media yourself then you need to argue that we have the right to use the media on Wikimedia Commons (see copyright tagging below). If you have not created the media yourself then you should also specify where you found it, i.e., in most cases link to the website where you got it, and the terms of use for content from that page. If the content is a derivative of a copyrighted work, you need to supply the names and a licence of the original authors as well.

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I've added information about the sourcepage. As this is a portrait of a person who died in 1860, made by an unknown artist, I presume that {{PD-old}} applies here. If there are anything else I can do please let me know. Finnrind 11:25, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Files with wrong name bad name[edit]

  • Thanks. I've done that. --Xosé 13:10, 2 July 2007 (UTC)


Sources are easy to give. Where is the problem : [1] - IP.

I suppose you refer to my comment on User_talk:Siebrand#about_Image:Sadeq-Hedayat.jpg. The problem seem to be that most of the images uploaded by User:Mosaffa and included in the gallery Sadegh Hedayat have a proper license but no source information. As I understand it, from what Siebrand wrote at User_talk:Soroush83: For a claim of an image having been publish to stand, we need a (relaiable) source and date where the image was published at least 30 years ago., source information is necessary for the license to be valid. All the best, Finn Rindahl 12:46, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Bra oversettelse kart[edit]

Bra arbeid med kart over Stalingrad! mvh - Ulflarsen 14:09, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Takker, var egentlig bare et eksperiment mens jeg prøver å lære meg inkscape, gjorde ikke noe med stadsnavnene (de er fortsatt på engelsk-russisk). Det ser ut som oppløsningen er bedre på .PNG enn .SVG, så jeg var faktisk i tvil om hvilken versjon som er best. Finn Rindahl 14:17, 5 July 2007 (UTC)


Dear Finnrind, thank you very much for your kind note and advice. I do not need to pursue the matter; the less I think about such people as Siebrand, the better for everyone concerned. Nonetheless, I must add that Siebrand seems to me to be occupying a position of responsibility which he clearly does not deserve. Further, I am simply dumbfounded why he should have reacted the way he did; after all, I had not volunteered those remarks; Jeff G. had asked me to shed some light on the matter, and I did it without having Siebrand in my "firing line" (I opened my note by "Dear all", which should have made it unambiguously clear that I could not have had any particular person in sight). Further, what I wrote there was my genuine feeling about what is wrong with the attitude of some (not all of course) of the people who occupy positions of responsibility and who to my best judgement are unwittingly destroying Wikipedia. Take this whole issue of the photograph of Sadeq Hedayat. What is the actual problem that so many words have to be spent on that little photograph? Further, some people seem not to have noticed that there has been a revolution in Iran, and that works by writers such as Hedayat are banned over there. Consequently, as much as I would want, I cannot simply attach names to photogaphs of individuals who are controvertial in the present-day Iran, knowing well that this can cause problems for these people who either themselves or their close family and friends live in Iran.

To show you how badly some of the people on the Wikipedia pages behave, here is what another user wrote to me last week:

"But guess what: no one cares what the word sounds like in Persian, since the information presented is in English and only in English. And in English, incidentally, we, English-speakers, do have the word [...] and we do use it on a variety of occasions."

This is the type of text one gets hurled at on Wikipedia (please read Siebrand and you will unmistakably see the word "we" showing its ugly face there --- apparently, he believes, whether consciously or otherwise, that I am not part of this community). With kind regards, --BF 00:25, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Image Tagging Image:Herøy_kirke02.JPG[edit]

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Thanks for uploading Image:Herøy_kirke02.JPG. I notice the image page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is unclear. If you have not created this media yourself then you need to argue that we have the right to use the media on Wikimedia Commons (see copyright tagging below). If you have not created the media yourself then you should also specify where you found it, i.e., in most cases link to the website where you got it, and the terms of use for content from that page. If the content is a derivative of a copyrighted work, you need to supply the names and a licence of the original authors as well.

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Re: Tagging or editing unsourced images[edit]

The bot is set to fill in the source parameter on images with "self" licensing. It is not evaluating the claim (as that needs human judgement), so it is not removing any tags. Inclusion in Category:Images without source does not mean the image is unsourced, just that that parameter isn't filled.

When looking at these images decide if the work is the uploaders or not; by looking at all the info not just the tag and blank descriptions. If you believe that it is the uploader's work, edit the page to fill in a source. If you doubt that the image is the uploader's no source tag it. Please don't no source tag images just because they are in that category!

In the case of Image:Garganta del diablo.JPG, there is metadata; indicating that it came from a digital camcorder. That suggests to me that the image was created by the uploader, so the tag should be removed in my opinion. When working through that category, use your judgement on if the source has been provided elsewhere (including in a license template). Hope that explains things.--Nilfanion 20:44, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your swift reply, sorry I did not acknowledge before. I will be careful using the no source tag, and limit this to files where relevant sourceinformation indeed is required. As for Image:Garganta del diablo.JPG I fully agree that it is very likely that the image was created by uploader. Happy editing, Finn Rindahl 09:57, 23 August 2007 (UTC)


Hello Finnrind/2007-1, at the Geocoding project we have noticed that you uploaded a number of pictures from one of the less covered regions on earth. Maybe you could consider adding coordinates to some of your images. They will show up on the WikiMiniAtlas and the Google Earth Commons-layer. You can find instructions on how to add coordinates to your images at Commons:Geocoding. Thank you in advance! The Geocoding team--EugeneZelenko 15:09, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Hmm, this looks interesting. I'll see what I can do... Finn Rindahl 23:22, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Re: Image:Besoo.jpg[edit]

Hi Finnrind. I did it. See User talk:Sr ardilla#COPYVIO. Greetings--Lmbuga gl, pt, es: contacta comigo 16:26, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Re: Images tagged Image:Rogesa-BF5.jpeg, Image:Slab-caster.jpeg and Image:Georgsmarienhutte-EF.jpeg[edit]

Dear Finnrind,

In the "media lounge" of, it is stated:

We have collected photos for you here on steel production, with a resolution of at least 300 dpi, for you to download. Please quote the “Stahl-Zentrum” as the source when publishing these photos.

Therefore the photos can be used freely, provided that the source is mentioned. I have made though a small correction in the info boxes stating that the source is the "Stahl-Zentrum" and not the "". Regards, --Metallos 00:27, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your quick response, and sorry for not checking the source page good enough before adding those tags (I didn't check this english version, and my understanding of German is limited it seems ;). The tags have been removed, I aplogise for the inconvenience. Happy editing, Finn Rindahl 00:35, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
But where does it say that derivative works and commercial use are allowed? --Kjetil r 04:56, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
Does it really need to explicitly state that such use is allowed? I tried to read the legal stuff, but my German-knowledge is not up to it, [2], want to have a go at it Kjetil ;) ? Finn Rindahl 06:20, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
Such things should be stated explicitly unless a standard free license is used.
The leagel stuff sais that “Wirtschaftsvereinigung Stahl und Stahlinstitut VDEh behalten sich die Reproduktions-, Vervielfältigungs- und Veröffentlichungsrechte vor. Eine Verwendung der angebotenen Inhalte ist nur mit Angabe der Quelle zulässig,” which means something like "Wirtschaftsvereinigung Stahl und Stahlinstitut VDEh keeps the reproduction-, duplication- and publication rights. Use of the offered content is allowed with a reference to the source" (if I understand it correctly, it has been some years since I had German at the Gymnasium). This is not a free license as we require at Wikimedia projects. --Kjetil r 07:19, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
Ok, what now? Do you want to retag those images or should we consult an administrator who is higher (self)rated than {{User de-1}} ;-) Finn Rindahl 07:24, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
I suggest a deletion request. It will get other users' attention, including more Germans. --Kjetil r 07:35, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
OK, I'll nom. them later and leave a personal message to the uploader. Gotta go now, it's Sunday and I have to be somewhere 1100 CET ;) Finn Rindahl 07:40, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
I understand that these photos are not free without proper source acknowledgement, but does this mean that they are not free for use in Wikipedia? I suppose only German Wikipedians with some legal knowledge on copyright etc. can clarify this point. Anyways, I'll abide by the adm's decision, whetever may be... --Metallos 04:05, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
Well, requirement of source acknowledgment, attribution, is no problem for use in Wikipedia - the problem here was an uncertainty about whether they are licensed for derivative and commercial use. There are contrubutors here with very good insight in German copyright law, so I am sure this matter will be clarified. Finn Rindahl 09:04, 8 September 2007 (UTC)


Hei Finn,

Har tenkt til å laste ned et bilde av hullet i Bleiksøya. Da har jeg også tenkt til å legge den under kategoriene Nordland og Andøy, men kan du forklare meg hvordan jeg legger den i de ulike kategoriene? Og de bildene med fototekst på, skal jeg srive "watermark" i "Summary"? Sondrekv 7. sept. 2007 14.28 CET

svarte på din diskusjonsside MVH Finn Rindahl 12:56, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Hei Finn,

Jeg mente "laste opp". Ja, alle bildene er tatt privat, bruker kun de som jeg har egne rettigheter på. Hvordan signerer man i wikipedia/commons, og hvordan vet jeg hvilken kategori bildet skal ligge i/hvor finner jeg kategorier? Jeg vil fortsette å laste opp bilder som folk kan dra nytte av =)

Sondrekv 7. sept 2007 18.23 CET

Godt godt, du signerer enten ved å skrive fire tilder ~~~~ eller ved å trykke på signaturknapper Button sig.png (nr. 3 fra høyre i redigeringsvinduet). Dersom du følger lenken fra f.eks. Category:Islands in Norway får du en oversikt over hvilke over- og underkategorier denne kategorien har. Under category:Norway ligger ALLE underkategorier som har med Norge å gjøre. Ellers finnes det f.eks. kategorier for alle norske kommuner, som såvidt jeg husker er kommunenavnet for alle kommuner i Nordland unntatt Rana kommune som har Category:Rana, Norway. Lykke til, og pass på å skriv detaljerte beskrivelser av hvor og når du har tatt bildet også. Finn Rindahl 17:23, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Iceland pic[edit]

OK no problem. I apologize for the confusion. I will check better next time. Have a great day!Scanlan2 00:46, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Great, reinserting the tag now. Hope you find another picture of the guy. Regards, Finn Rindahl 00:47, 9 September 2007 (UTC)


Da er du nominert; hvis du går til Commons:Administrators/Requests and votes/Finnrind og skriver rett under min nominasjon at du aksepterer er det fint. Cnyborg 20:45, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

ukategoriserte bilder[edit]

Takk, eg skal sjå på det når eg får tid og databasen fungerer samtidig (det gjer den ikkje no). Elles er det alltids hyggeleg å få ein velkomst på norsk anten den er på bokmål eller nynorsk, det er ikkje det viktigste. Det eg tykkjer er leit er at no omtalar seg sjølv som den norskspråklege wikipedia, då vert det ikkje rart at brukarane på no til tider går i den fella og. Vi skriv eit leksikon og då burde det vere mogleg å vere korrekt. Når no er så sta på å omtale seg sjølv som den norskspråklige wikipedia får ein heller tåle at nynorskfolk vert litt oppgitt over det. Men vi vonar igrunn helst ikkje bite. :) --Anders 00:35, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Vi får sjå å få oversatt dei malane til nynorsk òg ein av dagane. Her på Commons vert det enno enklare og gløyme seg, og dei andre brukarane veit jo ikkje forskjell på bokmål/ nynorsk (langt mindre om du legg til riksmål og høgnorsk). Eg freistar å hukse å bruke "the Norwegian wikipedias", men lykkast nok ikkje ofte. ;) Vi snakkast, Finn Rindahl 07:31, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

"messing around"[edit]

Hi. Did you really mean it when you wrote "I'm mostly messing around trying to figure this project out" in this edit? Thanks!   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 05:45, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Hm? This may have been a case of "Norwegian English" - I ment "messing around" a a translation of "rote rundt", i.e. walking rather confused around trying to find out out what's really going on and what to do about it. I certainly didn't mean it it the sense of "sleeping around" Face-grin.svg. As an honest (and modest?) reply to Herbys appreciation I tried to express that while I have been doing a lot of edits at Commons lately, I haven't really been focused in what I've been doing. I've been doing a little bit here and a little bit there, schratching the surface of some backlogs while trying to figure out where I could best focuse my efforts. I've done some work on the welcome log, some on images missing categories, some going through images lacking categories, some checking recent changes, some improving info and cat.s on images in Cat:Norway., adding some geotags and learning new stuff about what commons is (and what it should be) along the way. Basically I've been doing what Herby describes in this edit [3], "sticking around having fun", while trying to adress both my own inadequacies through learning and the inadequacies of Commons by sorting, tagging and talking to people.
Just out of curiousity (and wanting to adress my inadequacies in communicating in English) - what did you think I ment by that edit since you asked me this question? Finn Rindahl 07:36, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
I thought that you meant that you were not being serious.   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 00:34, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for helping to fend off the vandalism to my user space![edit]

Your help is very much appreciated!   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 00:32, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

No problem Jeff, let's hope these diggers will leave us alone now ;-) Finn Rindahl 00:35, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
Yes, let's!   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 16:49, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

re: thanks[edit]

You're welcome. :)

Hm, looks like I made a wrong assumption. In that case I feel Commons is even more lucky to be the first wiki to get to "try you out" ;) Lack of sysop experience is not important. What is important is being sensible and not deleting dozens of items immediately after getting the admin flag. ;) --pfctdayelise (说什么?) 12:07, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Image:HV-016 .05.jpg[edit]

Pay attention to copyright Image:HV-016 .05.jpg has been marked as a copyright violation. The Wikimedia Commons only accepts free content, that is, images and other media files that can be used by anyone, for any purpose. For details on what is acceptable, please read Commons:Licensing. You can ask questions about Commons policies in Commons:Help desk.

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The image in questin is nabbed from Forsvarsnett and the original uploader simply added a GFDL note to it... Harald Hansen 08:40, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Jeg gav fyren på en.wp beskjed om at han ikke skulle laste opp bilder fra Forsvarsnett og merke dem med GFDL. --Kjetil r 09:27, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
Takk for oppfølging, det går av og til litt fort i svingene med Krimpet-redskap - ting fra en:wiki er ikke alltid like pålitelig. Finn Rindahl 10:27, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations, Dear Administrator![edit]

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Finnrind/2007-1, congratulations! You now have the rights of administrator on Commons. Please take a moment to read the Commons:Administrators page and watchlist related pages (in particular Commons:Administrators' noticeboard and Commons:Deletion requests), before launching yourself into page deletions, page protections, account blockings or modifications of protected pages. The majority of the actions of administrators can be reversed by the other admins, except for history merges which must thus be treated with particular care.

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Well done. I am going to leave the adding yourself to the templates to you. :) You have a lot of languages! ++Lar: t/c 21:58, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Well thank you Lar, and thanks to all that have put trust in me by supporting my RfA. I have to figure out how to use these new buttons, but hopefully I will not do too much damage while sorting it out ;) Finn Rindahl 22:07, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
Congrats from me too and have fun with the toys! --Herby talk thyme 09:35, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Gratulasjonar frå nn-wikien--Anders 22:41, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Takkar og bukkar, vonar eg kan gjere litt nytte for nn-wikieen òg med tida, nett no prøver eg berre finne ut kva for knapper eg kan bruke utan å blokkere byråkratane her eller slette hovedsida ;)Finn Rindahl 22:45, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Jeg må tilstå at jeg totalt havde overset at du var blevet nomineret, ellers havde jeg med glæde støttet den [jeg er normalt aldrig aktiv på nomineringssiderne]. Men et stort tillykke også fra den danske og engelske Wiki. :) Valentinian (talk) 21:06, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Takk for det ;) Nå må jeg prøve å få gjort noe med easyplex sine mange rare opplastninger, fikk bruk for blokkeringsknappen mye tidligere enn jeg trodde jeg skulle - håper det blir lenge til nest gang... Finn Rindahl 21:23, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
Jeg er ked af at du skulle havne i denne situation på den første dag på jobbet. Situationen med ham er noget bras, men jeg har simpelthen ikke andre bud end dem du har set. Hvordan skal vi kunne skelne ravl og krat? Men jeg er enig i at en anden admin bør drage konklusionen her. Valentinian (talk) 22:00, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
Nuvel, det er nok egentlig så enkelt at vi bare skulle slettet og blokkert permanent, vi kan ikke ha ting vi ikke kan stole på (men vi må vel også "assume good faith" også når vi egentlig ikke gjør det:( ). Takk for din innsats, jeg bare trykket på min nye blokkeringsknapp etter at du hadde undersøkt og tilbakevist hans påstander. Flotte scans du lager forresten, jeg brukte et her om dagen som argument for at reproduksjoner gjennom fotografering ikke burde ha mer vern enn reproduksjoner gjennom scanning( - men, jo, jeg vet at nordisk lov gir et spesielt vern til fotografiske bilder.)
Jeg har forresten ikke den fjerneste idé hvordan vi skal kunne skelne ravl og krat, da jeg ikke aner hva verken "ravl" eller "krat" skulle bety Face-wink.svg Finn Rindahl 22:24, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
Så får du nøye deg med å skille skitt fra kanel, det klarer selv vi nordmenn å gjøre. Cnyborg 15:28, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
For at det ikke skal være løgn skrev jeg faktisk forkert før. Det hedder revl [4] og krat [5]. Det betød engang at kunne skelne hvad der er "småt" fra hvad der er "ubetydeligt". :) Tak for bemærkningen om billederne. Det er rart at høre at andre kan lide dem. Desværre kan MediaWiki softwaren ikke håndtere særligt store filer, for særligt samlingen af træsnit fortjener en høj opløsning. Men det ville være rart hvis PD-art kunne bruges på nordisk materiale. Så kunne vi undgå løsninger som denne og denne. Den slags ser pænere ud i farver. [6] Valentinian (talk) 17:17, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Purging Image:Forest & Bird headquarters.jpg[edit]

Hey Finn,

You're right, the ampersand makes it break. I don't really know enough Javascript to make it escape properly. Hm, the same issue breaks Check Usage. If you want to hunt down a Javascript guru and ask them to fix it, that would be really cool. :) --pfctdayelise (说什么?) 13:33, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

I haven't really got neither the hunting license nor the tracking abilities to go js-guru hunting i'm afraid, wouldn't even now where to start looking (yet)... Hope somebody notices this problem and fix it though, lot's of purging lately and many files contain & Finn Rindahl 13:39, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
Should be fixed now. :-) Lupo 07:31, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
Lupo you are a total champ!! :D (Can you do the same thing for the Checkusage tab?) pfctdayelise (说什么?) 10:27, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
Done for all the extra tabs. It wasn't just checkusage, but also gallery, orphans, logs, find categories. Tested with Image:Forest & Bird headquarters.jpg and User:A&D (who luckily does have a few uploads). Lupo 12:22, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Vitalienbrüder: Image:Vitalienbrueder.jpg[edit]

Dear Finn, thanks for your advice. I specified the information for Image:Vitalienbrueder.jpg now. I guess that should do it? The related article I wrote is here[7], in case you can read German... --R gassenhower 17:05, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Seems I commented on your talk page while you wrote this ;-) It looks very good, I added a link to the German article in the image description. Then it's possible to follow interwiki links for people who don't read German (even if the Danish article I checked really is lacking compared to the German). Thanks, Finn Rindahl 17:11, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
Yesss Finn! Funny. Since I'm quite new to this "commons"-thing here: I just uploaded another picture I requested from an online-magazine. The chef mailed me the requested picture and allowed it's use for wikipedia. I'd be great if you might have a look at the description, I not sure if I did it correctly: Image:Orden gotland.jpg ... Thanks!
I think this image is perfectly safe under the {{PD-old}} license, because I don't think the magazine has a copyright claim as such (the original image is PD). But as far as I can tell (I'm really not good at reading German) you quote the chef writing that he is perfectly happy with the image being used in Wikipedia, which - if we are to be very formalistic - could be interpreted as restricted to wikipedia use only. But I'll drop a line about this to one of the German administrators who would be more capable of helping you out here ;-) Copy same to R gassenhower Finn Rindahl 17:36, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

No problem[edit]

Always nice to be noticed! Three *herby accounts on Meta today. They seem to forget CU and the fact that they tend to use open proxies making the IP hard blockable within policy --Herby talk thyme 12:05, 19 September 2007 (UTC)


Dear Finnrind, the "clear copyright violation" stands in the Italian law itself, and in the guidelines issued by Wikimedia foundation, which say that pictures in Commons should be free from any kind of copyright. The Italian law has no freedom of panorama, and it copyrights the "works of architcture" for 70 years after the death of the architect, who remains the sole owner of the images of the buildings.

I do use ordinary deletion requests (check the log for yesterday, and you will fine mine) but only in cases whose status in unclear/dubious & re. Whereas past discussions have demonstrated that no images breaking explicitly copyright laws may stay in WikiCommons, therefore there is no discussion to make about them.

I may agree with you in asking the adms to be less hasty in deleting the images, though: sometimes the uploader does not even have the time to read the warning that I have posted in his/her page, and to object. If you open a vote for this question, I shall vote in favour of it. However, the fact of an image staying for a long time in Commons means nothing: first because policies change, secondly because my deletion requests come from the work of revision I am doing on ALL images concerning Italy. I am checking them one by one, and there are scores of thousands of them. This explains why images that have remained unnoticed for years are now singled out by me. But what I am doing, is merely checking that all of these images comply with the guidelines issued by Wikimedia foundation. I had to list for deletion hundreds of images shot by myself for this very reason!

In short, I am always deceived when a person takes it personally. There is nothing personal. We all are grown up adults. And Commons is not the only place where you may display your pix: you may always put them in Flickr, for instance, where they are much much less strict than we are. (Yes, our rules are absurdly strict). As I already told Frode Inge Helland, I promoted a proposal of law to change the Italian law, and the discussion is now ongoing in the Italian wikipedia, at the page I gave her the address about. But until we succeed in changing the law, it stands. You are not simply allowed to publish under a free licence an image of a building by Scarpa located in Italy, for the simple reason these images are not free. Fullstop. No discussion needed, the law is clear. I am sorry, but I did not make the law myself, and I would like it to be amended asap. But until then, we have all to respect the law, old contributors and newcomers as well. Best wishes. --User:G.dallorto 18:43, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Dear G.Dallorto, thanks for your reply. I certainly agree that we can't have copyrighted material of any kind at Commons or other Wikimediaprojects, regardless of if we agree with the laws that give copyright or not. I'm grateful for your valuable contribution in going through older uploads and checking whether they really are free - removing unfree content is just as important as adding new free content.
My concern was not whether this is a copyright violation according to Italian law (I have no reason to not believe that it is), but how the process of deletion here at Commons should be. I have understood {{Copyvio}} to be a template for speedy deletion - where the copyright violation i obvious (also to people who don't know the different national laws) and there is an urgency to get rid of the material. While it is certainly not good to fill the deletion request page with obvious cases, it's not good if our contributors feel that we are acting to fast either. In this particular case, as I have come to understand, these images we're talking about was either uploaded from en:wiki or taken by the uploader himself, in the latter case these images was specifically taken in order to illustrate wikipedia-articles. That's not an argument for saying keep, but that is a reason to thread gently when removing such illustrations. Finn Rindahl 20:16, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

adding licensing information to an existing uploaded photo[edit]

Thanks very much, Finn, for teaching me how to solve my tag problem! Tim Ross 22 September 2007

My pleasure Face-smile.svg, regards Finn Rindahl 19:14, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Sub-saharan Africa Image[edit]

Hello, I'm not sure what is missing? I have linked to the website and pasted their copyright terms, verbatim. Blair76 18:30, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Answered at User talk:Blair76. Finn Rindahl 18:49, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Deletion request (pictures of ElC)[edit]

How to I stop this off-topicdiscussion and keep it to the topic? Whenever I try to not answer the user he accuses me of ignoring him. When I answer he counters with one more off-topic thing. Should I remove the request from the page and just single out the most useless pictures? The user is obviously not willing to remove even one of the pictures. It's difficult to figure out which to delete because most of them lack only in comparison. -- Cecil 11:36, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

As I wrote in my comment there, I think we need to start over again. As a deletion request it's not precise enough to vote keep' or delete, and it seems the present dialogue isn't very constructive.... I'll add another comment to the deletion request, and then try to address the issue(s) at EIC's talk page. How to proceed then would depend on if it's possible to reach an understanding or not, but deletion requests on selected images is a possible, if not very happy, outcome. Regards, Finn Rindahl 11:44, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
I've redrawn my request. I will wait with the single requests a little and wait if he sees the sense in sorting out. I hope he reacts better if somebody else tries it. -- Cecil 12:01, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
Thanks Cecil, there is anyway no rush in sorting these images, it is not as if they're copyvios or offending anyways. I'll try to take it from here, and call on one of the more experienced admin's if further advice is necessary. Regards, Finn Rindahl 12:14, 2 October 2007 (UTC)


Habe Dir bei mir geantwortet. Fingalo 15:06, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Your chipefforts[edit]

Dear Fingalo, my sincere thanks to you for having assembled the list to review the chipimages and offering your opinion on the suitability (and lack thereof) of some. I was wandering how urgent the task before us is. Would reviewing 50-to-100 images per week be considered fast enough? Let me know. I'll go through the ones you have already began reviewing probably this weekend. Many thanks again and best wishes, ElC 23:50, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Answer at User talk:ElC Finn Rindahl 14:08, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

User RP[edit]

I have looked into the historie of this user, he has 50% of his images found rejected in 3 month; an no help at all. Either he has already decided to stop, or I try to give him a second chance. I have told him: if he apologises at Siebrands page and at the commons adminstr notice vandalism page, I 'll help him uploading. What do you think about this? Havang 17:10, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for that initiative, Havang. I have answered at user talk:Richardprins. Finn Rindahl 17:43, 5 October 2007 (UTC)


The author has written the following text to

Da ich selber der Autor dieser Abbildung bin, sollte es damit keine Probleme mehr geben. Oder?


„Because I am the author of this image himself, there should be no problem any more. Right?“

Is it Okay? --Toffel 18:48, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Answered at user talk:ToffelFinn Rindahl 20:07, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

RE:Another piece of unwanted advice[edit]

Hello, Finnrind, Thank you for your message and advice. I could promise to you that I'm not going to respond on any comments by user Acarpentier as well as to make any comments on his/their contributions. I probably will stop posting any comments on commons FP all together. I cannot promise to you to add back any comments to my talk page. As a matter of fact I'm going to blank my talk page right now. If you are going to block me from Wikipedia for doing this, please go ahead, it could be for the best. On the one hand I'm getting tiered of Wikipedia on the other hand I cannot stop posting my images because I believe they add value to the articles they are in. You could loose the faith in my sincerety and consider me to be not polite (I do not really care) yet I like to exerise at least some freedom at my own User Pages. BTW I just withdrawned all my FP nominations and I'm not going to nominate another image for Commons FP ever again. Best regards and have a nice day.--Mbz1 00:40, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for responding to my posting on your talk page, I'll answer you here. I'm not going to block you for blanking your page or anything else, I do hope you will continue to upload pictures and hopefully nominate and contribute to FP as well. Have a nice day, Finn Rindahl 10:14, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
Looks like you are a big specialist in user pages. I wonder, if there is any size limit for my user page?Thank you.--Mbz1 17:24, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
There's no size limit for user pages as far as I know. If you want to make a very large gallery for example it might be good to separate it into several (sub)pages though, simply to make it easier accessible to others. Regards, Finn Rindahl 20:42, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Proposal regarding Commons Photographers categories[edit]

Hi, You are currently using a Commons Photographer user template on your user page. It has been proposed to redefine the templates and a vote is currently on-going. If interested, I encourage you to participate in the voting process. -- Slaunger 12:59, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

My talk page[edit]

Hello, Finnrind,
I'd like to let you know about this. Thank you.--Mbz1 15:43, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Template:Source via PINGNews[edit]

Image deletion warning Template:Source via PINGNews has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.

If you created this image, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue.
In all cases, please do not take the deletion request personally. It is never intended as such. Thank you!

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Very good to see the change in emphasis - hope things are ok & you continue to have some time for Commons - cheers --Herby talk thyme 11:36, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Herby! Life is getting better and more relaxed off wiki, so I hope I will have more time on-wiki as well. See you around, Finn Rindahl 11:40, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Image:Provoost anne 01.jpg[edit]

Why did you delete the picture of Anne Provoost without consulting? She gave permission to use her own picture to put it on the wikipedia page about her... and why does a norwegian guy decide for a dutch situation... de discussie kan beter in het Nederlands gevoerd worden! talk MarQ 17:25, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi MarQ. Sorry if I moved to fast on that one, but the source given [] states non-commercial. If you could verify that the image is free it could be kept. I have restored it pending clarification.
Commons is a common media base for wikimediaprojects in all languages, an image of a dutch person does not make it a "dutch situation". Happy editing, Finn Rindahl 17:36, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

I am convinced this situation is better handled in the local language, so others can more easily participate. talk MarQ 21:17, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

All right, this is what I'm going to do. First of all I'll tag the image no licence, "permission by author" is not a valid commons-license and the image will have to be deleted (again) unless you can provide documentation that the author has released it for free use. Then I'm going to pass this matter on to a dutch speaking administrator so that you may handle this in your local language. All the best, Finn Rindahl 12:31, 31 March 2008 (UTC)


Somewhere I would really like to visit - it's been on the list for a while now! I like remote places (my uploads may give a flavour!). I assure you you would have got the tools back quickly - I would have made a nuisance of myself :) While I'm here - User:Fun Factory - given your block log?? Glad to have you around again - cheers --Herby talk thyme 13:27, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

It's good to be back Herby!
User:Fun Factory established a different account, User:Fun Factory Gast, and wrote the password of the account at Anleitung zum Hochladen von Fotos. Just to check I used that password and logged in, before I blocked that account and deleted the pages. It strikes me that that may not have been very smart with "account creation disabled" - may have to fix that. As for the communication with User:Fun Factory I initially tried to get someone who understands german better than me to take care of that, but when that extra account was created with an open password I felt I had to take action. Don't know if this makes things clearer, I was not very clear myself at that time (rather late in Norway then) and I'm still trying to remember what all these buttons should be used for. That's certainly an argument in favour of desysop for inactivity - it's not like anyone (or at least not myself) can just reappear after half a year and still have the same skills and overview of things.
See you around, Finn Rindahl 14:13, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
Hopefully sorted (let me know if not). I have confidence in you :) And you live in a beautiful country! Cheers --Herby talk thyme 14:41, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Moving on[edit]

To things I know nothing about :) Surely this is a copyvio plain & simple? Really all that stopped me was that it has been here a while (looks like the uploader has some history of such things +the dupe too). Cheers --Herby talk thyme 12:55, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Obvious copyvio, what is stopping me is that I'm not at my normal computer, and where I'm at right now I'm stuck with MSIE which means that practically nothing works the way it should... :-( ...(not even my g-mail account)... :P Regards, Finn Rindahl 13:06, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
Right, now I'm back to Firefox and a more cooperative computer. None of these book-covers were used, I have deleted both... Regards, Finn Rindahl 15:50, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
Thanks Finn - playing "catch up" at present! Cheers --Herby talk thyme 15:57, 3 April 2008 (UTC)


Hi 3210,
Regards, Finn Rindahl 11:24, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Image:Miratülmemalik.jpg appeared to be a bookcover, the copyright of such is normally held by the publishing company. But in this case i have copyrights of the bookcover. I did not give any rights of the book and bookcover to publishing company . You can ask and learn from publishing company if you have any hesitation.
Regards,--3210 16:13, 10 April 2008 (UTC)


Thanks for the advice about linking my images to categories. I've got them all done but one, as there seems still to be some debate about which family the bird belongs to. I have asked my friend, who is an ornithologist, what he thinks. Cadwaladr 20:01, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Glad to hear! I was in fact just looking at your recent upload from Patagonian plains when I noticed I had a message. Please do not hesitate to ask for help if needed, regards Finn Rindahl 20:04, 6 April 2008 (UTC)


That's right: "Se prohibe copiar ilegalmente la imagen, debe pedir permisos al autor" means "It is forbidden to copy the image illegaly (sic), you must ask the author for permission". This collides with the given license. Regards. --Dodo 18:53, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Image:Tawas Point Light2.jpg[edit]

I apparently messed this up. This was an image that I took from that was uploaded by user:Gittinsj under a GNU License. I basically edited the image and re-uploaded the image to Commons for use in a Wikipedia article. So the author information is only known to me as User:Gittinsj from Wikipedia. If you can fix this, I would appreciate it....Asher196 01:58, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

You didn't really mess up, it's just that "wikipedia" as source does not really say more that source=Flickr and so on. Thanks for adding the links to the original image at wikipedia and the author en:user:Gittinsj, and for cropping and straitening that image. I believe the image description should be ok now. Regards, Finn Rindahl 22:39, 13 April 2008 (UTC)


Hi, I'm following the project of the pictures about the italian admiral Ernesto Burzagli. I'd want to ask you why you tagged the picture with a missing permission tag. As far as I know the picture is in public domain for the italian copyright law and for the japanese one because the picture has an anonimous author than the copyright lasts only 50 years [8]. So, if I well understood, no permission is required to upload the picture. May be we have just to change the kind of licence fot the public domain one? Or it's a different matter? Thank you for your help.Giorgiomonteforti 23:56, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

I did not concider japanese copyright law when I added that tag, I do believe you're right. I don't think we need to change the license either. I've removed the {{no permission}} tag, sorry for the inconvenience. Happy editing,


Input here would be appreciated, cheers --Herby talk thyme 12:07, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

✓  Done but I'm not really sure if I understood your concern Finn Rindahl 12:40, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
Thanks - hopefully now clarified a bit. I'm sure one of the bots didn't place welcomes before tags but I can't find anything now. However users frequently place a no source/no license and no welcome by the look of it - cheers --Herby talk thyme 12:58, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
The problem right now seem to be that Siebot isn't up to speed, and how wikimedia-bots operate is beyond my technical insight. It does seem they do not have have en:Three Laws of Robotics built in though... Apart from that, I would believe that an adjustment such as Mike suggested to user messages would solve a lot of this. Regards, Finn Rindahl 13:10, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Thank you![edit]

Hi, and thank you very much for your message with advice re. putting my images into categories. Thanks also for making a start for me--I appreciate the help. I'm working through them. Now I just need to make new categories for one or two of them. By the way, sincere compliments on your photos, they're beautiful. (But you already knew that!) Regards, Writegeist 17:19, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for that, I'm not a very good photographer but I live surrounded by beautiful nature :-) Good luck with the categorisation, let me know if I can do anything to help. And if you have more of those images keep 'em coming, very good shots. Regards, Finn Rindahl 17:28, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Deletion request[edit]

Hi, thanks for deleting Commons:Deletion requests/Image:PovertyPointLayout.jpg per nom. I just noticed that there is a duplicate of the deleted image at Image:PovertyPointLayout Louisiana USA.jpg. Would you please remove it too, or do you think a formal deletion request is needed? --h-stt !? 07:58, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Cecil already took care of that :) Regards, Finn Rindahl 11:29, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Shankbone rubbish[edit]

Thanks - I'm trying to avoid the range blocks that we had to do last time but maybe we will need to again, cheers --Herby talk thyme 11:56, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Seems unavoidable I'm afraid, but let's see what happens... Regards, Finn Rindahl 11:59, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
Yep - changed to range blocks now - it will take them far more time to reboot their router and find an open IP than it takes to block a range :) Annoys me that we have to put up with such ****, cheers --Herby talk thyme 12:03, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Commons:Administrators' noticeboard/Blocks & protections[edit]

I will unprotect once I get this rangeblock business settled. I only protected the page because it seems like a low-activity (yet important) Commons page. The last non-vandalism IP edit was from almost a month ago. Nishkid64 (talk) 19:47, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Okay, I've unprotected the page. I just noticed above that Herby conducted a rangeblock. Nishkid64 (talk) 19:52, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, we could always reprotect it if the problem goes on and Herby's magic (I understand nil of reangeblocks...) doesn't do the trick. Regards, Finn Rindahl 19:57, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Loch Lomond button celery[edit]

Thanks for the quick deletion. I think the user thought she uploaded a thumbnail, and doesn't understand that it cannot be used in a Wikipedia capacity, either. I will try to explain the situation to her. --Blechnic 00:59, 19 April 2008 (UTC)


Do you see what he/she is doing? You should block to prevent damage. I would if I were an admin here. Royalbroil 18:59, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for you rapid response. Royalbroil 19:00, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
Just happened to pass by, thank you for responding even quicker. Regards, Finn Rindahl 19:02, 20 April 2008 (UTC)


I apreciate your job about Haabet's messages [9] [10]. Rewards, --Tano4595 01:17, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

PS: But it's seems that the user don't read the help page, not your message. --Tano4595 19:42, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for letting me know, I'll write a message in Norwegian at user talk:Haabet Finn Rindahl 19:47, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Image:Robert HOSSEIN.jpg[edit]

I think what happened was Petr Tomasovsky put the {{GFDL}} tag on a file (not understanding that he based his work on a copyrighted work it cannot be GFDL). I've seen several pieces he's put into the Esperanto Wiki that have claimed GFDL, but clearly were based on copyrighted material. After that, a bot came along and swept the bogus-GFDL image into Commons.

In the Esperanto Wikipedia, we are in the process of identifying and deleting copyrighted work which does not justify "fair use" according to some new narrow rules. Thus, I found that picture on Commons and tagged it for deletion.

I hope this helps... -- Yekrats 15:37, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

thanks, helped a lot. I'll go through the other uploads and check as well Finn Rindahl 15:53, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
What is the diference from between Image:1963 Cleopatra trailer screenshot (10).jpg and Image:Robert HOSSEIN.jpg? Both they are from film. Petr Tomasovsky 16:01, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
The Cleopatra image is from a trailer (not a film) that was published in the 'United States' during a special timeframe without a copyright-notice. From those trailers screenshots are into public domain (not GFDL!). The Hossein-image is from a movie and from France and even if it would have been a US-trailer the licence still would be wrong. -- Cecil 16:11, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the clarification Cecil ;o)Finn Rindahl 16:14, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

Thanks Finnrind for taking care of my speedy deletions. Gå Norge :)! Ha en god dag, MVH. --Kanonkas(talk) 20:00, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Takk selv for årvåkenhet, flott du passer på. Dersom du i tillegg til å merke for sletting også kunne informere de som lagde siden ved å subste {{Project scope}} på brukerdiskusjonen er det enda bedre! Finn Rindahl 20:04, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
Ja, pleier å gjøre det men hadde det litt travelt. Skal spare deg den jobben neste gang :) --Kanonkas(talk) 20:09, 13 May 2008 (UTC)


Your thanks are most appreciated. It's this or revise :p -mattbuck (Talk) 20:03, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes, Herby also said he'd recommend me for adminship, and I'm quite interested. Apart from deleting stuff I tag, what else do you do as an admin? -mattbuck (Talk) 20:32, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
Hm, nominating you for admin while Herby is on one of his rather few wiki-vacations would be kind of fun... ...but since he "spotted" you first I should probably let him do the honours. I'm a rather lazy and unstructured admin, but I do occasionally patrol New Pages and normally I try to check a few users from the Welcome log every day. I'm also involved the Norwegian language wikimedia projects, and try be avvailable for Norwegian users who need assistance. Apart from that I do take small chunks out of various backlogs, but not very systematically I'm afraid. I'm quite sure you will become a more efficient admin than I am ;) Finn Rindahl 20:48, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Bilder fra Oslo Sporveier[edit]

Hei. Jeg så du slettet et bilde av en t-banevogn på majorstua stasjon (T2000-maj.jpg eller noe sånt) Jeg lurte litt på hvorfor du gjorde det? Nedlastbare pressebilder står det følgende: "Bildene kan brukes fritt når kilden oppgis. Foto: Ruter As." med en klar link til Vogntyper og trafikkbilder hvor da dette bildet ligger.

Hva var galt med det bildet / lisensen? Yosh3000 23:14, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Dette er en såkalt "presselisens" som de aller fleste kommersielle aktører legger på sine pr-sider. En formulering som "Fritt" betyr normalt ikke fritt i Commonsforstand, altså at bildet også kan redigeres (derivative work) og spesielt bruker kommersielt (commercial work). Bilder på Commons må være lisensiert spesifikt under en fri lisens (se Commons:Licensing) eller uten opphavsrett.
Du hadde merket bildet med {{tl:cc-by-sa-2.5}} - det er imidlertid en lisens som går lenger enn "Bildene kan brukes fritt når kilden oppgis". Det vi kan prøve er å kontakte sporveiene og be om at de enten lisensierer pressebildene sine som cc-by-sa, eller - om de ikke ønsker å endre oppsettet sitt - sender en mail hvor de bekrefter at bildene som "kan brukes fritt" kan viderepubliseres med en slik cc-lisens. Mvh, Finn Rindahl 05:42, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
Ok, takk :-) mvh Yosh3000 11:35, 16 May 2008 (UTC)


Antar denne henger i en tynn tråd også da?

mvh Yosh3000 11:42, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Den gjør strengt tatt det, men jeg har sendt mail til dem og bedt om tillatelse til bruk under cc-by, avventer svar først. Skal sende deg en kopi av mailen. mvh Finn Rindahl 11:59, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
Fikk mailen :-) thanks. Yosh3000 12:24, 16 May 2008 (UTC)


Heisann Finnrind! Jeg lurte på om du kunne hjelpe meg med dette her. Hvis du kan, så tusen takk! :) Mvh. --Kanonkas(talk) 18:08, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Vet ikke når jeg får tid, men dersom du gjør oversettelsene i en sandkasse så kan jeg klippe og lime inn i /no filer ved høve. Ellers forstår jeg det slik at Lupo gjerne oppretter /no filene bare de er klart merket. Finn Rindahl 20:33, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
Took the three first in /no and /nn Finn Rindahl 21:07, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
Takk skal du ha! :) God 17 Mai! :) Det regner da, men men ikke la det stoppe deg! --Kanonkas(talk) 10:03, 17 May 2008 (UTC)


I'll be watching you (from a blimp).

Hi. In light of yours and others' suggestions, I've submitted an RfA. Thought I'd let you know. Thanks. -mattbuck (Talk) 17:33, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks very much for your support. I will try not to bother you with any more copyvios :p -mattbuck (Talk) 19:06, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
Oh, I'll get you for that Finn - exactly when you least expect it. -mattbuck (Talk) 12:03, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
I was kind of expecting something like that. Great video btw... Finn Rindahl 12:10, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for telling me about the dispute resolution thing. That makes us even for Ms Hilton. -mattbuck (Talk) 20:13, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
Sure, I'll look out for anyone who tries to contact you while you're away. Hope you have a good trip. -mattbuck (Talk) 20:20, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

deprecated function in your monobook.js[edit]

Dear user, I noticed that you use the includePage function in your monobook.js page.

This function is now obsolete, as the importScript function was introduced with rev:35064 to the MediaWiki Javascript core library wikibits.js. It also keeps track of already imported files.

To allow us to remove includePage from Mediawiki:Common.js I'd kindly ask you to replace its use with importScript (same syntax!). Thanks! --Dschwen 17:03, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, done Finn Rindahl 17:20, 22 May 2008 (UTC)