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Symbol Types of cars Used with road signs of Cambodia[edit]

Hi ! Thanks for helping to mark the traffic of the Kingdom of Cambodia.I have to do a Image of road signs of Cambodia and And can help more. Thank you so much . Model road signs of Cambodia --มองโกเลีย๔๔ (talk) 03:54 Pm, 24 Februaryr 2018 (UTC)มองโกเลีย๔๔


Special Barnstar Hires.png The Special Barnstar
Thanks of manually replacing hundreds of images across all the Wikiprojects (so I didn't have to), and for your tireless contribution to the field of heraldry and vexillology on Commons. Thank you! Sodacan (talk) 05:26, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
SVG Barnstar Hires.png The SVG Barnstar
For obvious reasons. INeverCry 20:48, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
SVG Barnstar Hires.png The SVG Barnstar
Thanks for making a vector version of this flag on such short notice! Illegitimate Barrister (talk) 15:00, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
SVG Barnstar Hires.png The SVG Barnstar
Thanks a bunch for taking the time to make SVG flags of all these U.S. federal agencies! Illegitimate Barrister (talk) 13:29, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
Choco chip cookie.png Thanks for keeping the image category up to par. Enjoy! - FOX 52 (talk) 18:13, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
Erdbeerteller01.jpg The strawberry fruit (which is not actually a berry) is widely appreciated for its characteristic aroma, bright red color, juicy texture, and sweetness.

For all the .svg (and flags) work you do here. Your edits are appreciated. :) -- Steinsplitter (talk) 17:45, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

Tireless Contributor Barnstar Hires.gif The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
Thanks for creating SVG files of Wikimedia projects. Also, thank you for contributing countless SVG road sign diagrams. TagaSanPedroAko(Let's talk/Usap tayo) 13:56, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
Tireless Contributor Barnstar Hires.gif The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
Just wanted to take a moment to say THANK you for all the tireless, awesome work you have done with all the road sign svg files in the community. You've made my model railroading ideas a lot easier to accomplish, and my quality of realism more than would've ever been possible without all the work you have done. Thank you! Fgossage (talk) 15:25, 28 July 2016 (UTC)
Tireless Contributor Barnstar Hires.gif The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
A quick note of appreciation for excellent artistry on coats of arms, which images much enhance the attraction of Wikipedia, as well as helping provide visual explanation of important families. Un grand merci! L'honorable (talk) 19:38, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
Graphic Designer Barnstar Hires.png The Graphic Designer's Barnstar
Thank you so much for all the work with road sings in Colombia! Keep up the great work! Aardila (talk) 19:11, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
BoNM - Thailand Hires.png Barnstar of National Merit
Thanks for helping to mark the traffic sign of the Kingdom of Thailand.I have to do a variety of vehicles such as cars, buses, trailers, tuk tuk, as svg file. If done all the way in Diagrams of Symbols road signs of Thailand มองโกเลีย๔๔ (talk) 05:26,18 January 2018 (UTC)


ALoha! I just read your comment that you just remove DR notifications. Anyway, that got me thinking (imagine!): Do you know about the OneClickArchiver? -> w:en:User:Technical 13/Scripts/OneClickArchiver Works like a charm. One click and gone. Cheers, C(_) --Hedwig in Washington (mail?) 04:07, 21 December 2016 (UTC)

No, I had not heard of that before, but I will definitely take a look. Thanks! Fry1989 eh? 21:33, 21 December 2016 (UTC)

Happy New Year, Fry1989![edit]

Request opinion[edit]

Hi! Could you take a look at this gallery? Thanks! Ellin Beltz (talk) 17:32, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

Yes, I will. Thank you. Fry1989 eh? 17:55, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

Mozambique Air Force insignia[edit]

Hey Fry if you happen to come across any clearer version of this insignia, can you let me know I'm trying to complete Mozambique's new roundel. I've got the text, but the eagle and lions head above I have not idea of their correct dimensions. Many thanks - FOX 52 (talk) 22:31, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll certainly pass it your war. Fry1989 eh? 22:32, 27 March 2017 (UTC)


Hello Fry1989, I want to ask you to make this file in the same format a white (transparent) color, if possible. thank you in advance! Best regards — Mehman 97 20:24, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

@Mehman97:, do you want the crescent and star to stay red on a white background, or be white on a red background? Fry1989 eh? 16:27, 14 April 2017 (UTC)
I want everything to be transparent, including a star and a crescent. If you can create one, I will be grateful. :) — Mehman 97 16:55, 14 April 2017 (UTC)
File:IslamSymbol-white.svg like this — Mehman 97 16:57, 14 April 2017 (UTC)
@Mehman97:, how is this? File:TurkishEmblem-White.svg. Fry1989 eh? 23:51, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
Yes, this is what I need, thank you very much :) — Mehman 97 09:51, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
You're welcome :) Fry1989 eh? 16:30, 16 April 2017 (UTC)

Emblem of Abu Dhabi[edit]

Hello Abu Dhabi I changed the Emblem if you would kindly update.[1] [2] ,Sorry bad english-- 00:57, 23 April 2017 (UTC)

Hello. I will certainly update the emblem, but it will take 3-4 days as I am busy for now. Thank you. Fry1989 eh? 19:50, 23 April 2017 (UTC)

Thank you so much-- 21:07, 23 April 2017 (UTC)


Hello. I want to talk about history part of File:Flag-map of South Korea.svg in the first. That island (right part of Korea) is Ulleungdo, not Dokdo (also known as Liancourt). Maybe this is your mistake I think. So I request you add the Ulleungdo in File:Flag-map of South Korea.svg and File:LGBT flag map of South Korea.svg. Thanks. --Idh0854 (talk) 07:00, 7 May 2017 (UTC)

Still I'm waiting for answer. Thanks. --Idh0854 (talk) 20:48, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
I am sorry, I forgot to check my talk page. I will fix the map. Fry1989 eh? 17:54, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

Road signs in Myanmar[edit]

Dear Fry1989, I am currently working in Myanmar on road related project and I am looking for road signs design. Did you create by yourself the svg file of the Myanmar Stop sign ? If so is it exactly matching with the standard ? I would be interested in other signs if you have some available. Regards

Hello. I created the shape of the sign, but the Burmese characters were created by FOX 52. However, we created the sign because there are photographs. Without any photographs or charts of other road signs in Myanmar, we don't be able to make more. Fry1989 eh? 21:29, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

Category:Stop signs by inscription[edit]

Please do not put files in this category. This category is a metacategory and should contain only other categories. I have moved all the files you put here back to Category:Stop signs. If you have any questions about this, feel free to ask. Thanks. --Auntof6 (talk) 22:57, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

I created that category with a specific intent, I know what it is. Fry1989 eh? 14:53, 8 June 2017 (UTC)
Then it needs a more appropriate name, and probably a description of what goes here instead of in Category:Stop signs. The name "Stop signs by inscription" indicates that it contains subcategories grouped by what is written on the sign: in other words, a metacategory. --Auntof6 (talk) 17:15, 8 June 2017 (UTC)
Can you please explain what your "specific intent" was for this category? I don't think it can remain with this name and not be a metacat, which would mean no files allowed in it. Thanks. --Auntof6 (talk) 03:12, 12 June 2017 (UTC)
It is my intention to contain all stop signs regardless of their inscription. However I do not believe there should be a sub-category for a single image, so any signs with only one or two images should remain in the master category. Fry1989 eh? 16:38, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
I agree that signs without a specific subcategory should remain in the master category. However, the master category is Category:Stop signs, not Category:Stop signs by inscription. Categories whose names indicate "by" something like this are metacategories, which contain only categories and no files. The name Category:Stop signs by inscription means "stop signs grouped by what is written on them", not "stop signs that have something written on them". That might not be what you intended, but that's the what the kind of name you chose means. It's common for there to be files that don't fit into a grouping under a metacategory; those files just stay in the metacategory's parent cat. In any case, I nominated the category for discussion, so we will see what others think. --Auntof6 (talk) 17:45, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

South Carolina First flag Proposal[edit]

Hey I'm wondering if you would be interested in making a svg of the first official draft of the South Carolina flag; Which is simply defined as [The] National Flag or Ensign of South Carolina shall be white with green palmetto tree upright thereon; and the union blue, with a white increscent

Sc 1st flag proposal.png
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Thegunkid (talk • contribs) 07:09, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
@Thegunkid:, I could make the canton, but the tree is beyond my abilities. Fry1989 eh? 16:36, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

By the way, the PNG does not have an increscent... AnonMoos (talk) 06:41, 24 June 2017 (UTC)


I assume you know about User:Squiresy92's uploads of national coats of arms? I'm not sure I have a strong objection, but some people might... AnonMoos (talk) 06:41, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

Yes, I am aware. For the most part, I find their edits to be an improvement. There are one or two that I have a little niggle with, but I'm not upset. I would understand if others were, however, yes. Fry1989 eh? 15:30, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

Flag proposals for the new French regions[edit]

I was wonder if you can match the symbol on the proposed flag of Occitanie with this symbol and this proposal of another region with that

P.S. Rename the proposed flags to their official names of the regions. Thanks. 2607:FEA8:4F20:59F:D5DD:1F44:478:D2E 00:40, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

SADC road sign TR581.svg[edit]

Hello !

"Dont" is very short, isn't it ?

My changes are introducing some fluency to make update and create new road signs. It is what I tested by using styles CSS. I've generated easily the other signs of the same family.

On the other hand, you can cancel a change in the 'history' tab, instead of reloading your version.

for the pleasure of reading you soon.

--Michka B (talk) 18:26, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

I am sorry, but I don't like users using different types of code or file size reduction on my images. I find it usually creates minor flaws in the original image. Fry1989 eh? 18:47, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
I remind you that you drop Wikimedia longer belongs to you even if you are the author.
Then I do not use another code as it is the use of style sheets in SVG as W3C recommendations.
Wikipedia is a world of openness and discussion even if power relations are present!...
In addition, I bring W3C validation.
Wikipedia is a world of openness and discussion even if power relations are present!... And you ?
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Michka B (talk • contribs) 22:11, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

File:Outline of Ukraine.svg[edit]


SVG source of the current version of this file contains an additional invisible Ukraine's outline beyond page borders.

Is it ok?

Rino ap Codkelden (talk) 14:47, 8 August 2017 (UTC)

Thank you, I have removed the artefact. Fry1989 eh? 16:50, 8 August 2017 (UTC)

France road sign C27.svg[edit]

Hello and thanks for your relevant changes.

But, would it be possible to change the borders, currently blue, in black for this sign (this is SVG format)?

Good continuation, Mathis73 (talk) 09:36, 20 August 2017 (UTC).

I have fixed the image as requested. Thanks :) Fry1989 eh? 17:10, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
Perfect :) Mathis73 (talk) 17:25, 20 August 2017 (UTC)

Australia flag undeletion request[edit]

Hi, I added my support for your undeletion request but I'm really confused/curious as to why people are saying these are copyrighted. I'd like to be able to explain my answer better. Are the available online anywhere else I could see, ie imgur? Thanks! Wikimandia (talk) 18:33, 2 September 2017 (UTC)

@Wikimandia:, thank you. Yes, the two images I re-created were this flag and this flag. They aren't related to the Aboriginal Flag at all. Fry1989 eh? 17:04, 3 September 2017 (UTC)
Wow. Thanks. These are absolutely not related. I would add the links to your undelete request so anyone else stopping by can see the absurdity. Wikimandia (talk) 17:15, 3 September 2017 (UTC)

Colombia road signs review[edit]

Hi there, I've had a chance to go through the signs you so generously created. I noted my comments in my user_talk for your review. I didn't want to start editing a bunch of your images without first checking with you, so I only edited minor things which I thought made sense. If you're OK with the changes, let me know in that page if and which comments specifically and I'll be happy to save you the trouble of editing the images (except for the renames, as I don't have that privilege here). Once again, thanks for your work on this! It is highly appreciated! Have a great weekend! --Aardila (talk) 16:05, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

Hello, just wanted to ask the source for the changes to the old information signs (like this one, for example)? I'm looking at the official 2004 manual available at and the previous versions were correct. The metadata was also overwritten with different sign names which are not those in the official manual. --Aardila (talk) 13:49, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
Hi @Aardila:. I apologise for my slow response, but my computer died and I've been without a new computer for the last 4 days. I have a new one now, so I should be back in business. Regarding the old information signs, I have the old version of the Manual and it has different measurements for those signs. So I was updating them to those specifications. Fry1989 eh? 19:37, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
Sorry to hear about your computer. I'm not sure what version of the document you have, but when I look at Chapter 2 on the page I linked above, I see the old versions of the info signs are now different from what you're uploading (starting on page 68 in the document). I had also recently gone through them and updated the names and translation as per the 2004 manual (linked), but that info also seems to have been overwritten, so I was wondering which version of the manual you were using exactly for both the graphics and name updates? Can you post the link? Thanks in advance. --Aardila (talk) 22:22, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
@Aardila:, I can't seemto find the document online, but I could email it to you. Fry1989 eh? 23:58, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
Also, I have found manuals for Bolivia and Peru. They are not high quality, so I'm not sure how well I can recreate the images, but I will make an attempt in the future. Fry1989 eh? 00:33, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
Can't you upload it to a file sharing platform and publish the public link to the document here? I guess what I'm not understanding is how this source is more authoritative that the government site for the Ministry of Transport that I linked above that would warrant overwriting all files and metadata? Awesome job on getting sources for Bolivia & Peru! :) --Aardila (talk) 18:09, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
@Aardila:, I did not think of that. Great idea! I have uploaded it to Dropbox, you can view and download it here. There are two versions of the 2004 Manual. One version has all the signs together on the same document, which is the version that you have. The other is in three separate chapters for Preventivas, Reglamentarias, and Informativas. That version has construction sheets. Fry1989 eh? 18:47, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
@Aardila:, have you had a chance to look at the document? What are your thoughts? 19:50, 28 October 2017 (UTC)

Symbol Types of cars Used with road signs of Thailand[edit]

Hi ! Thanks for helping to mark the traffic of the Kingdom of Thailand.I have to do a variety of vehicles such as cars, buses, trailers, tuk tuk, as svg file. If done all the way in Diagrams of Symbols road signs of Thailand --มองโกเลีย๔๔ (talk) 01:17, 21 November 2017 (UTC)มองโกเลีย๔๔

Hi @มองโกเลีย๔๔:! Thank you, I enjoy working on the images. Some are a bit difficult, but it is worth it. Those SVG files would help a lot. Fry1989 eh? 01:37, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

Book which may be of interest[edit]

I found at a very, very cheap price in a used bookstore near where I live "Canadian City Flags: 100 Flags from Abbotsford to Yellowknife". (With older flag versions, alternative flags, and flags of former municipalities merged into other municipalities, there are actually a lot more than 100 flag illustrations in the book.) I guess this is more up your alley than mine, so if there's any info in the book which could be helpful, feel free to ask me... AnonMoos (talk) 12:11, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

That definitely perks my interest. If you're up for doing some scans, that would be great. Fry1989 eh? 17:25, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
I'm not really set up to do scans now. Maybe I'll just send the book to you sometime after the holidays (i.e. earlyish 2018) -- though the last time I mailed books to Canada, I had to fill out a customs declaration, and the person receiving them had to pay some kind of tax on the declared value. My favorite flag so far is Inuvik, Northwest Territories, while my least favorite is that of Lethbridge, Alberta (a.k.a. "Fort Whoop-Up"), which is "reflective of what an inebriated person might draw while attempting to draw the Stars and Stripes"... SFriendly.gif -- AnonMoos (talk) 07:17, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
That is a very kind offer, though you don't have to if you don't want to. I ship a care package to the US for a dear friend some times and I've had to fill out the customs thing, but he's never had to pay anything on the receiving end. I've also never had to pay on the receiving end for shipping for my banknote collection from various countries including the US, and that's actual money so those have real monetary value...sounds weird to me. Poor Self Care (Know the Signs).png Fry1989 eh? 19:48, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

File:Presidential Standard of Indonesia.svg[edit]

Do you know where is this flag actually displayed? Because the symbol itself are actually used in a document of a law (see this), but I never see this flag displayed near the president (like POTUS flag). Thank you.--Hddty. (talk) 10:25, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

I do not have any photos, the only source we have is FOTW and Hubert-Herald. Fry1989 eh? 19:44, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

I hope that you are not selective and hypocritical when it comes to independence movements.[edit]

I hope that you are not selective and hypocritical when it comes to independence movements. You have only voiced your support for an independent Catalonia. But what about your support for an independent Quebec which happens to be in Canada, an independent Basque Country, an independent Scotland, an independent Flanders, an independent Kurdistan, an independent Northern Cyprus, an independent Nagorno-Karabakh, an independent Republika Srpska, etc? —Preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 19:43, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

I don't really have much of an obligation to answer, and since this is an IP address instead of a user I don't even know if you will come back to read this, but I will answer for the fun of it. I support self-determination as an inalienable human right. I don't believe any country is indivisible, and don't believe that a country can just put "indivisible" in their constitution and that magically makes it so. You raise the issue of Quebec. As a Canadian, that independence movement is the most relevant to me. I don't want Quebec to leave my country. I want Quebec to be a happy, successful, integrated, contributing member of the Canadian nation. That said, if Quebec held a referendum, and a majority of the population voted for independence, I would accept it. I would accept it because it is their democratic right, because I believe it is a human right, and because I believe that a peaceful divorce is better than an unhappy marriage forced by violence. Spain has used violence to force an unhappy marriage, and has violated the human rights of the Catalans in doing so. That is why I have expressed my support publicly on my Wikipedia/Commons accounts on this issue. I hope that answers your question. Fry1989 eh? 20:20, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
Fair enough. I retract what I said. —Preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 21:13, 7 January 2018 (UTC)



Can you add the borders of South Sudan in File:Fatimid Islamic Caliphate-ar.png, File:Fatimid Islamic Caliphate.png and File:Fatimid Islamic Caliphate He.png, because modern borders are superimposed on these maps and South Sudan has been forgotten. These maps are almost duplicates with the same colors and resolution but are language variants of each other.

Thank you. 08:29, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

I am sorry, but I do not know how to change PNG files. But if you make the request in the Graphic Lab, I am sure someone will be able to change the borders. Fry1989 eh? 20:32, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

File:Flag of North Yemen.svg[edit]

Hi Could you change the color of the green star, like to File:Flag of Syria.svg ? --Panam2014 (talk) 14:06, 12 February 2018 (UTC)

Done. Fry1989 eh? 18:42, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
Thank you. And for File:Coat of arms of Yemen Arab Republic (1974–1990).svg, could you also change the color and also add the detail like to File:Coat of arms of Yemen.svg?--Panam2014 (talk) 22:28, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

Hurry of road signs of Cambodia[edit]

Hi !Please ! mark the traffic sign of the Kingdom of Cambodia to complete it because I have made some if you can improve it. road signs of Cambodia[[] --มองโกเลีย๔๔ (talk) 15:26, 23 February 2018 (UTC)มองโกเลีย๔๔

The traffic signs in Cambodia are on my list, but it will take some time for me to be able to make them. I still need to finish Thailand. Fry1989 eh? 19:27, 23 February 2018 (UTC)

Official working drawings for Irish road signs[edit]

Hi Fry! Of all the Wikimedia users that have dealt with road signs, I would confidently say that you are the single biggest contributor, in terms of diversity and quantity (in a good way). I understand that you are a busy guy with your own priorities and all that, but I have found something that might interest you: Official working drawings for Irish road signs. The link is an official website where you can browse the traffic signs and view most of their working drawings in a PDF format (very few in chapter 4, although pretty consistently for chapters 5 & 6). This might just make Ireland worth re-visiting some time in the future.

Cheers! - VulpesVulpes42 (talk) 22:14, 25 February 2018 (UTC)

@VulpesVulpes42:, well hello!! What a lovely surprise. First let me thank you for the kind compliments. Secondly let me say this just tickles me pink because I've wanted to do Ireland properly for years but the 2010 manuals from DTTAS are all raster and don't have construction sheets, so I was limited in what I could do. A repository like this is exactly what I need. It is true I have a lot of work to do, I've got a dozen or more countries to work on (and I still have to finish SADC which is exhausting), but Ireland is going back up on the list for sure. Thank you so so much! If you ever come across any other repositories, don't forget to send them my way. :D Fry1989 eh? 00:16, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
Will try to keep that in mind :)
Also (and pretty ironically), full-colour vector images are included in each and every working drawing, but they seem to be pretty low-quality, so I would try to ignore them and just stick to the actual diagram for reference. - VulpesVulpes42 (talk) 07:07, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
Oh, and in order to save you the hassle of hand-tracing letters and all that I should let you know that the fonts that are used on Irish traffic signs can be downloaded here:
VulpesVulpes42 (talk) 17:17, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

Bulgarian signs[edit]

I'd like to ask to make Bulgarian signs when you have time. You can look at here to help you while making them: 20:58, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for the source. I won't be able to make those signs in SVG format, but I can upload them in JPEG. I will search for other documents that might have SVG graphics for Bulgaria. Fry1989 eh? 21:49, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

Construction sheets for New Zealand road signs[edit]

Hello again! When you asked me to send you any repositories that I stumbled across, I tried to think of any that I knew off the back of my head, and I realized that New Zealand had a similar repository as Ireland (albeit a bit less user-friendly). However, I was hesitant to send it to you because it was the same link that you yourself had provided as source for the road signs ([3]). In the end, I decided to bring this up with you despite that, since I had noticed (at least a few) discrepancies between their EPS images and your SVG images. The particular example that I had in mind was regarding your speed limit signs:

A fairly thick border... Now, compare this to the official diagram as provided by the New Zealand government:

Noticeably thinner border, which meant that one had to be wrong... I decided to do a little experiment with GIMP, in which I would convert their EPS image to an SVG, and load both your and their version at a size of 9000 pixels (since one of the sizes they listed was "900"). The correct image should in that case have had a red border with a width of 1100 pixels. The results were surprising: Both were too thick! The red border on your version came up at exactly 1500 pixels, while the New Zealand government's EPS had a red border 1124 pixels wide, so closer to the officially given measurement, but not quite.

I am not sure how this situation arose, but it should be fairly easy to correct with them having a repository with construction sheets, dimensions, proportions, and all that. Once again I want to make it clear that I am aware of your priorities, but I thought that it would be worth bringing up so that you might do something about it when you have more time. - VulpesVulpes42 (talk) 11:50, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

Hi again. Yes there is a discrepancy with the New Zealand road signs. All the signs I uploaded were official, but the NZTA appears to have redesigned many of them, including the speed limit signs to have a smaller red border. Compare [4] with [5]. I am waiting on the NZTA a bit though because their repository used to be complete, but they recently redesigned the website as well and now they don't have all the signs anymore, they seem to be adding them back in pieces, and very slowly. It is annoying, but New Zealand will be a long-term project. I have to re-name all the signs here on Commons as well to meet the naming convention I proposed a few years back, but I also need all the signs to be in the repository to properly rename them because the NZTA has 3 different names for the signs, under the Rule, Code, or MoTSaM number, and I want it to be uniform. Fry1989 eh? 17:36, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
An interesting side-note, before the late 80s/ early 90s, the signs in New Zealand followed a very different pattern. They were black, with white symbols and either a red or yellow border, notice [6] and [7]. I've made the Give Way sign (which I need to re-do), and a few others, but there's more. I have tried to find as many photos as I can on websites like Flickr, but that's always a fishing expedition and don't have great luck. I emailed the NZTA asking if they have any old documents, they emailed me back a few days ago but I haven't read it yet. I'm kinda scared to. When I emailed the South African Government about any old copies of their former RTSMs with the 1960s-1990s design where the signs were blue like this, the woman I spoke with was very kind but said she only knew of one copy left and said it hadn't been digitized so it's staying soundly in her office. I'm scared of getting the same answer from the NZTA. Fry1989 eh? 17:54, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
I see. Given the circumstances, your choices and actions have been 100% logical. I had also noticed the confusing plethora of different codes and naming systems which the New Zealand government employs. By the way, thank you for sharing those pieces of trivia. They were interesting indeed. - VulpesVulpes42 (talk) 07:21, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

Vector drawings for Icelandic road signs[edit]

I had already written a nice long message to you, but just before I was going to submit it my Wii U ran out of memory (don't ask) and decided to reload the page, so I had to start all over again *sigh*
I do apologize, but I don't feel like writing it all over again, so I'm just gonna give you the link and let you have a look for yourself:

VulpesVulpes42 (talk) 21:08, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. I was wondering where that website went, I had seen it a long time ago but misplaced it. There's also one for Sweden, Norway and Finland, I have those thankfully. Fry1989 eh? 21:15, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

Regarding Singaporean road signs "no stopping" and "no waiting"[edit]

Good day (or whatever time you're reading this)! Now that I have answered your message back at my talk I was hoping that you could give me an answer to one of my questions. I saw that you added the link to road signs "no stopping" and "no waiting". The reason as to why I myself was hesitant to do it when I added the links to all the other Singaporean road signs that you had done was that the official construction sheets for those particular signs included white arrows. My question is, are variants without arrows in use, and if so, could you give me a photograph, or, is it so that Singapore only uses these signs with white arrows? Thank you in advance. - VulpesVulpes42 (talk) 09:55, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

The SDRE only shows them with arrows, but the Basic Theory Of Driving handbook shows them also without the arrows. I do intend to upload versions with the arrows in the future. Fry1989 eh? 17:39, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
Well, that is a satisfactory answer. Thank you! - VulpesVulpes42 (talk) 20:14, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
Just a follow-up, I found some examples of these signs without the arrows. On major roads with emergency bays, there are signs which replace the arrow with the text "In parking bay". Fry1989 eh? 20:24, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

A kitten for you![edit]

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☆Good job, you finished Thailand!☆

VulpesVulpes42 (talk) 21:48, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

Re: Flag of Royal Military College of Canada[edit]

I originally posted the following on PneumaticEditor's user page:

I updated the .svg image for this flag as you suggested, however, user Fry1989 revised my change on the file itself. He says that "It is unclear if the proportions have been deliberately changed or the flags were improperly made." In any case, the .svg version should be used, but should it be the tricolour version or the pale? This is unclear. It appears that in historical contexts, and when RMC flags are sold commercially on the internet, they are 2:3 tricolours, but in contemporary RMC use they are 1:2 pales. That being said, I cannot find any official justification for the change from tricolour to pale.

Here, if you look at the image on the bottom right, the original heraldric artwork for the flag of RMC St. Jean is shown, and it is a tricolour in 1:2. Perhaps this should form the basis for the flag.

Regarding the motto, I believe it should be only in English, as the motto is recorded only in English in the original blazon, which is the authoritative description on how each element of that coat of arms is to be depicted.

What do you think? The CSOTK (talk) 05:10, 9 March 2018 (UTC)


A concern about UK Traffic Signs Content, pursuant to a recent news item on the BBC website. Bidgee (talk) 23:09, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

Request for some simple flags.[edit]

Hey I'm just wondering if you could do a simple request, it's File:De Zavala Flag.svg, could you realign the letters so they're actually centered between the points? And maybe change the font to News Gothic?

Beyond that could you also make a variant of it where the S is at the bottom? Since that was actually the format used on the back of Texas Dollars.

Also can you make a red variant since that was mentioned in contemporaneous newspaper reports at the time? Thank you. --Thegunkid (talk) 08:35, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

@Thegunkid:, sure I can take a swing at it. Fry1989 eh? 18:56, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
@Thegunkid:, is that better? I didn't have the font you mentioned, but I used RutaCL which is rather simple. Fry1989 eh? 18:20, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
Yes that's great, just be sure to make the variant with the S at the bottom since like I said, that's the format used by the Republic of Texas, and currently used by the State DPS for their seal. --Thegunkid (talk) 23:40, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
To add I think the one with the S at the bottom should be the main one, with the current one being a variant. --Thegunkid (talk) 23:43, 2 May 2018 (UTC)


Hi. I noticed you'd been involved in this discussion, and, since I'm not the best judge of what falls under PD-shape and what doesn't, would you mind taking a look at these:

and letting me know if they too fall under PD-shape? I have a feeling that maybe 2 wouldn't but 1 would? Thanks in advance. - ක - (talk) 08:02, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

@Jesuschristonacamel:, thank you for messaging me. Sadly I do not think either would be accepted under PD-shape on Commons. The patterns are very original. Fry1989 eh? 18:55, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
Thanks. There go my hopes of using them on lists/tables!- ක - (talk) 18:58, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
I am very sorry. Fry1989 eh? 18:23, 1 May 2018 (UTC)


Won't lie, I might have felt a tiny bit sick when I saw this:

VulpesVulpes42 (talk) 14:07, 8 May 2018 (UTC)

@VulpesVulpes42:, I'm confused, what is gross about it? It looks like a normal sign to me. Fry1989 eh? 17:07, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
Two of the symbols, the lookout and the camera, are copyrighted by Standard New Zealand. If one is to use them legally, one is supposed to purchase a CD ROM from them. Well, guess I'll have to live without the camera DL©.
Now, I'm obviously exaggerating a bit (OK, maybe a lot), but I genuinely find the degree to which the simplest of things are copyrighted nowadays a bit absurd. - VulpesVulpes42 (talk) 17:52, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
Oh, I didn't notice. But the NZTA licenses their diagrams under Copyrighted Free Use, so technically you don't need to worry about legality unless you're using them for profit and then things might get a bit complicated.
BTW a question regarding the Vienna Convention. Do you think I should do signs like the STOP sign and others with inscriptions in the 6 working languages of the UN? So far I've just done them in English. As a slight side note, I seem to be loosing steam a bit. I hope to complete the Convention but some days I really just feel so blah. I hate when that happens. Fry1989 eh? 18:07, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
I apologize for replying so late. To be completely honest, I feel like both alternatives are completely logical. Not doing all 6 UN languages makes sense because a lot of countries which do not speak English still use "STOP" and the like. Doing the 6 UN languages also feels logical. If I were you, I'd probably begin with doing all the signs, and then deciding on whether or not to do the signs in the other languages. However, I ain't you, so the choice ultimately rests in your hands. - VulpesVulpes42 (talk) 06:55, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

Wrong Info in File:Swiss pharmacy logo.svg[edit]

You wrote "Swiss Government", but it's surely not correct! It's the Logo of a private lobby organisation of the swiss pharmacy shops. It's the biggest organisation, but it's surely NOT governmental. Because i can not so good write in english and i dont know about licenses in commons i wrote something here. There are sources for my correction (in german, of course, its alos available in french from PharmaSuisse). --H7 (talk) 14:41, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for fixing the attribution. Fry1989 eh? 16:42, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

Before you continue with: UK ~ Singapore ~ Quebec[edit]

I noticed that all these countries were on your todo list. I'd figure that I should give you some information before you undertake these endeavours.
First off: UK. I would be willing to guess that you are familiar with the official illustration repository. However, I do not know if you are aware of the official construction sheet/working drawing repository. If not, let me know and I'll give you the link.
Next up, Singapore. So, we have official government documents. However, the vector illustrations included within are of poor quality. But since many of Singapore's road sign designs are of British origin, it would feel justified to just use the British vector drawings, where applicable and appropriate.
Lastly, Quebec. I know for a fact that you are acquainted with the Quebec repository. I would also guess that you are aware of the construction sheets. But just to be sure, I might as well ask. If you are unsure on how to access the construction sheets, let me know.
VulpesVulpes42 (talk) 17:49, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

@VulpesVulpes42:, hi there. Always happy to hear from you :)
So firstly I'll address Singapore. Some of the diagrams do look quite inferior. I've been spending my spare time the last few weeks using Google Streetview and Flickr and some other repositories to try and collect as many photos of real life signs as I can. Some really are "that bad". Take [8] and [9] for the quayside sign, and [10] and [11] for the no overtaking sign, as examples. So I intend to try and make the signs be faithful recreations, even though you and I both think the symbols are pretty shoddy looking. Also a side note, it appears that prior to the late 1990s, Singaporean road signs did not use the backing board and were cut out based on their shape like in most countries. I have collected several photos of signs such as [12], the stop sign, give way sign, and others. I intend to recreate these as well.
Regarding the UK. When you say official repository, I presume you mean the TSRGD website? I did have a free subscription to it quite some time ago, but then they switched it to a pay service and the price is far too high for me to afford. Which is a shame since the EPS files were of really good quality. I do not know of any construction sheets, so I would be happy to see what you have.
With Quebec, I also did not know of any construction sheets. I would also appreciate the link to that. Fry1989 eh? 18:33, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
I didn't actually know that TSRGD was a thing before you brought it up. For free, you can find both EPS images and working drawings on the good old (you'll need to scroll down the page till you get to "Traffic signs images and drawings", and then click on any of the "schedules"). As for Quebec, here's how to access any working drawing. You know this website where you can browse image galleries and download image files? You need to click on any sign in the gallery. When you are on that road sign's individual page, you should see a button "Afficher le devis technique (PDF)", or "View the specifications (PDF)" if you are browsing the site in English. Depending on how your browser deals with PDF files, the PDF construction sheet should either begin downloading, or open up in a new tab. I also believe that they give you the option to include a PDF construction sheet when you download road sign image files. - VulpesVulpes42 (talk) 19:25, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
I see. They made a web app for the TSRGD. It was very useful. I knew that the signs were still available on the website, but they were of lesser quality the last time I checked them out. But that is great to see they have been improved since then.
With Quebec, I never noticed that. It appears not all the signs have that option, or at least not the most recently added ones. But that is still very helpful. Fry1989 eh? 19:58, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
As I see it, the British EPS drawings could be useful starting foundations, then fine-tuned according to the working drawings/construction sheets. Very happy that I could help! - VulpesVulpes42 (talk) 20:06, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

Incomplete lists at the Vienna Convention of Road Signs and Signals gallery[edit]

The motorway and directional signs are yet to complete, and I hope that you will complete the signs for motorways and directional signs for the Convention gallery and I will hoping for your full completion of the convention gallery.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by ALF-MY (talk • contribs) 03:37, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
I do intend to complete the gallery, it will just take time. Fry1989 eh? 16:28, 18 May 2018 (UTC)