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Commons:Deletion requests/File:Schapelle Corby.jpg[edit]

Is realted to a bad flickr user, one of the images from that flickr user, File:Dragging Guantanamo captive.jpg, has been uploaded by you. I know you are an expert on this and may know any person who ever made a photo at Guantanamo, so can you review that upload? --Martin H. (talk) 22:10, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

File:Baby horned larks. in Nunavut.jpg[edit]

Isn't "240 × 153 pixels, file size: 41 KB" a bit small ? Larger sizes can be found at http://www.flickr.com/photos/31856336@N03/5271492628/sizes/

Teofilo (talk) 02:50, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

That's clever. Thank you for the explanation. Teofilo (talk) 03:08, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

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Magog the Ogre (talk) 21:19, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

File:Firefighters at fire, Montreal harbour, about 1920.jpg[edit]

While I have no qualms with the actual move, QC is the recognized and widely-used short form for the province of Quebec, not Quebec City. --Skeezix1000 (talk) 19:07, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

I should clarify. I don't think it's a good idea to be using short forms like QC on Commons - someone from Italy, for example, might not have any idea what Ont., Nfld., NL, BC, T.O., Sask., etc. mean. I typically replace them whenever I see them in image descriptions. So I think your move was a good one. But it's a clarity issue, not one of correctness - Montreal being in QC isn't actually incorrect. --Skeezix1000 (talk) 19:21, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
"QC is the recognized and widely-used short form for the province of Quebec, not Quebec City..." OK. That is interesting.
Some major cities have obscure namesakes. There is a Halifax in the UK as well as in Nova Scotia. London England is more important than London Ontario. Sydney Australia is more important than Sydney Nova Scotia. But I believe there is only one Montreal. If you think disambiguation would be helpful I will be happy to add Quebec to the name.
Cheers! Geo Swan (talk) 19:53, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
Sorry, my comments have been confusing from the first moment I started to type here. Apologies. No, I didn't mean disambiguation was necessary here. In fact, quite the opposite. It's fine just referring to Montreal. The place for additional details is in the image description. I was just saying that QC means Quebec, not Quebec City. A minor point which I have now managed to belabour way beyond necessary. Oh well. --Skeezix1000 (talk) 20:23, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
No need to apologize. Your yinfo on QC was interesting and worth repeating. Cheers! Geo Swan (talk) 20:55, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Category:O'Kelly's pub, Guantanamo Bay Naval Base[edit]

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File:Norwegian_Navy_Patrol_boat_Storm.jpg[edit]

Why did you shrink the file KNM Storm that radically on February 3, 2011? This file is used in the english, the german and the chinese Wikipedia, but it is not suitable for this anymore. I'm looking forward to your reply. --Seadart (talk) 12:44, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Umm, that would be pilot error on my part. About 14 months ago I started leaving a note thanking the flickr uploader every time I uploaded flickr image to the commons. The presence of the thank you helps prevent me from trying to upload images twice. This image predates my routine thank you notes by a couple of weeks. I would have expected the commons from warning me that I was uploading an image over an existing image, but I don`t remember seeing that warning.
If I ever make this kind of mistake, or anyone else does, there is a button next to the images at the bottom of the info page, that lets you revert to earlier images.
My apologies for any extra work I made you do.
Cheers! Geo Swan (talk) 19:11, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Please be more specific when categorising images[edit]

I have recategorised several of the images which you have uploaded to wikimedia commons to their proper, specific, categories. Please try to find the most specific category. To name a few examples: not Category:Sunsets but Category:Sunsets of Toronto, not Category:Skylines but Category:Skyline of Toronto. And if a specific category is a subcategory of another category, only place the file in the specific subcategory, not also in the main category as per COM:OVERCAT. Thanks in advance. - Takeaway (talk) 06:25, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

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Image rendering[edit]

I just used google docs to create those files. :) Philippe (WMF) (talk) 23:38, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

John Schanlaub[edit]

I haven't looked at all of these images, but many of them were uploaded directly by John, they weren't transferred from Flickr by a third party. AIUI, Commons has rather more of a warning about the irrevocability of a licence than Flickr does (as this is more of an issue here, those being the only possible licences). However we also have so many warnings and message boxes, that they all tend to blur into one. Andy Dingley (talk) 07:58, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

He directly uploaded 34 himself. He tried to revert the tag left by {{flickrreview}} on a larger number of his images, uploaded by other people. A couple of administrators re-reverted those changes. I didn`t add those images to the deletion discussion. Geo Swan (talk) 09:03, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
  • I have a question that I would like to ask. I have 3 photos here that clearly show people's faces. They are photos taken at the Farmers Market,Civil War cannon and two gentlemen playing street music. I do not have signed model releases from these people and I don't know who they are. If these photos were downloaded and used in a commercial venture, would we be in harms way because of the individuals privacy rights? How about their right of publicity? I read an article written by an attorney that deals in legal needs of photographers and she brings up some interesting facts. Even though I licensed the photos CC Attribution I have no way of waiving the subjects privacy rights or right of publicity. I also do not have a signed property release for the tanks at the armor museum. This is a recognizable museum and I don't have their permission for commercial use. This is the URL to the short article if you would like to read it. I'm trying to educate myself on these things as I have a way of getting into trouble easily. http://rising.blackstar.com/can-i-use-a-creative-commons-photo-without-a-model-release.html John Schanlaub (talk)
    • We have a "{{personality rights}}" tag -- it says it is the responsibility of the end-user to ensure the personality rights of individuals are not being violated.
    • I am not that well informed on when and if this tag is required, or recommened. But none of my images show people, so it hasn't been necessary for me. My understanding is that when an image incidentally shows someone, but it is taken in a public place, there was no expectation of privacy, and the individuals' explicit permission is not required.
    • If you have concerns, list the files' names here, and I will add that tag. If you are really concerned, you could re-nominate those three images for deletion, based on your concern over the personality rights of the persons depicted.
    • I am going to assume that your final comment on Commons:Deletion requests/File:X14.jpg is as close as you planned to come to apologizing for your name-calling. Geo Swan (talk) 15:49, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
      • You are correct on the public place situation,George. A release is never required to take a photo, the problem is how it is used later. I believe it is a case of association, the general rule is to consider whether the use of a photo would imply that the subject "agrees with" or is a "sponsor of" the user of the photo. People are entitled to control how their "likeness" is used for the purpose of promoting a product, idea, political or religious view..or to imply support of any of these. A release would be required if their likeness was used in this manner regardless whether the photo was taken in a public place or not. If the photographer notifies the user that there is no release for the photo, the responsibility transfers to the user to understand the limitations of it's use.

        I was reading an article today on the Creative Commons page about the 2007 lawsuit over a situation similar to what I am talking about. (URL BELOW) https://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/7680

        I found 323 photos of mine on everystockphoto.com which had been uploaded by their robot from Flickr. I told them today that I had changed the license and I had closed my Flickr account. They deleted all my images and stated they like to respect the wishes of the photographer. I was pleasantly surprised by their business ethic and respect for the wishes of the photographer. There are millions of photos on the web for the taking anyway, why worry about a couple hundred.

        John Schanlaub (talk)

      This is a list of my photos that have recognizable faces. A tag might be a good idea to avoid responsibility in case of misuse.
      1. File:55 chevy.jpg
      2. File:Model locomotive.jpg
      3. File:Street Musicians in Lafayette,Indiana.jpg
      4. File:Civil War Cannon.jpg
      5. File:Farmers Market.jpg
      It's not copyright that concerns me, it's the right of privacy and publicity of the subjects in the photos that could be a problem. Better safe than sorry. John Schanlaub (talk)
  • ✓ Done.

    File:Farmers Market.jpg had already had the tag added. You spelled File:55 Chevy.jpg and File:Model Locomotive.jpg incorrectly. Geo Swan (talk) 10:10, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

  • I am going to assume that your final comment on Commons:Deletion requests/File:X14.jpg is as close as you planned to come to apologizing for your name-calling. I believe Andy and I bent over backwards to be polite to you. In the deletion discussion you described yourself as someone who liked to be thanked, and liked to have your work appreciated.

    I am going to remind you that I did thank you. I explicitly thanked you on April 7th, when I took your CC liscense at face value, and uploaded one of your images here. Following your attempts to revoke your liscenses I explicitly described your photos as "very fine" photos in several comments. You were thanked. We did show appreciation for your work. Geo Swan (talk) 10:27, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

  • I did read https://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/7680. I agree with the opinion stated there that those who drafted the CC liscense weren't liable.

    Just as those you drafted the answers in the CC FAQ expressed regret that a photographer expressed dissatisfaction and described not understanding the liscense they used, several of us here, including Andy and myself, expressed our regret that you described dissatisfaction. Both Andy and myself spoke about further measures to prevent photographers like yourself being confused. I think we should consider whether the {{flickrreview}} robot that confirms images from flickr had used a flickr liscense compatible with our policies could take the further step of adding an acknowledgment and thank you on each image we upload.

    The terms of the CC liscenses don't require every viewer inform photographers if and when they took CC liscense at face value, and uploaded one of their images. I seem to have been the first wikimedia contributor, or the first contributor from any site, to leave an explicit thank you. I reqret that. I have come across a number of contributors, at flickr, and elsewhere, who have distributed their images under a CC liscense, or a similar liscense, who have explicitly added requests that uploaders inform them when they used their images. I reqard this as a very reasonable request, and a very modest request. And, since November 2009, I do my best to always remember to take 30 seconds to explicitly thank flickr photographers, and let them know where their image was uploaded.

    I have written, several times, that I think it would have been much better if the very first wikimedia contributor who uploaded one of your images had thanked you. I have written, several times, that I suspect that if the very first uploader had thanked you, you would have been flattered, and would have been cool about our uploads. And if you weren't cool, you could have changed your liscense when only one image had been uploaded -- not when over one hundred had been uploaded.

    In your comment at the deletion discussion you told us that if we interacted with you, in normal circumstances, we would find you to be a nice considerate person. You acknowledged there are circumstances when you can be a "complete jerk". You blamed this on a mental health issue.

    This is not the first time someone has said rude behavior was due to a mental health issue. I will repeat what I told the last guy. Very few people can claim 100 percent total mental health. What almost everyone does is do their best to keep their issues from preventing them from honoring the social contract. The last guy to make this claim, came back, and told me, over a year later, that he had taken my comments to heart, and he had been working hard, and thuoght he had succeeded in behaving better. I'd forgotten all about my comments. I had no idea he would take them seriously.

    Anyhow, I encourage you to work harder to continue to comply with the social contract, in spite of whatever issues you think you have.

    I encourage you to make a greater effort to own up, when you recognize behavior you wouldn't have taken, if you weren't affected by your issues. You went ballistic on Andy, based on the serious misconception he had called you "an old chestnut". You might consider starting there. Geo Swan (talk) 11:35, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

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Please don't revert my edits[edit]

Can you please not revert like this again because first it's annoying and second it's falsifying information. Why do you add PD-Afghanistan to images taken by Americans? How does Afghanistan own legal rights to a photo taken by an American with his own camera?--Officer (talk) 22:50, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Category:Fire engines of Antarctica[edit]

Hello!

Category:Fire engines of Antarctica is in Category:Fire engines by country. But Antarctica is not a country. What do you think should be done to solve this problem? Regards, High Contrast (talk) 13:06, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Stop worrying about it? Andy Dingley (talk) 13:48, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Geo, the comment above can be ignored. I'd suggest you are interested to solve this issue. --High Contrast (talk) 15:47, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Many of our "by country" meta-categories take a very loose interpretation of "country". There just isn't a problem here. Andy Dingley (talk) 17:00, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for comment. It has been perceived. I'd rather talk to Geo Swan in order to solve this specific issue. --High Contrast (talk) 17:03, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Re:[edit]

I just reopen the process and restored the category Ezarateesteban 14:57, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

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Upper Canada[edit]

Hello. I know I left you with an unnecessarily lengthy response in Category talk:Legislative buildings in Upper Canada, but did you have any thoughts to add? --Skeezix1000 (talk) 20:57, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

Could you please explain...[edit]

Category:British Rail Class 220 is a sub-category of Category:Rolling stock manufactured by Bombardier. In the photo (File:Bombardier class 220 train arrives at Stoke-on-Trent station, UK.jpg), the livery shows that the train is operated by CrossCounty. Hence it should go to Category:British Rail Class 220s in CrossCountry livery and Category:British Rail Class 220s of CrossCountry, sub-category of Category:British Rail Class 220. By this, we should not add Category:Rolling stock manufactured by Bombardier to the photo as it will lead to over-categorization of the photo.
If you need more explanation, I am willing to explain further. You can also read Help:Category#Categorization_tips for more details.--Altt311 (talk) 02:44, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

Bin Laden and all[edit]

Hello Geo Swan, in the delete request for that famous Bin Laden picture you comment on someone pointing to the uploader's bad log without providing evidence. That someone was me. Well, if you look at the link I gave there, you'll see, for instance: "This, given your prior history on this project, should have been a prerequisite for any single word of original reporting on your part. You have, repeatedly, disrupted this project under numerous sockpuppets. When challenged on claims in relation to the location you were currently accessing the Internet from; neither visible addresses in IRC, nor those revealed whilst I retained Checkuser privilege matched with your purported location. Based on your long history of prior disruption under multiple socks, attempt to use the project as a blog host, copyright violation – repeatedly, and implications of the areas of research revealed by minor edits on other projects, you are receiving a month-long block. The interview you contributed, that was never adequately, nor competently, reviewed against credible evidence will be labelled appropriately. Repeat private messages to any regular contributor in IRC will result in you being immediately kicked and banned from the channel by the nearest operator.

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Flagged as known sock of S Q (talk · contribs), Saqib (talk · contribs), and Saqib Qayyum (talk · contribs), repeat IP vandal with at-will access to sufficient subnets in Pakistan to require a /10, or coarser range block.}}}"

And there is much more, much, much more. The guy seems to be basically discredited on the other Wikimedia projects, inclusively for fraud, so it was not far-fetched to doubt his bona fide here in Commons. Personally, I do believe that there is a big probability that the OTRS ticket is forged, but the uploader clean record here in Commons, along with the use of a new sock at the time, precluded any further considerations. In any case, I don't care. If Mir feels his rights are being abused, he could simply ask for the removal of the picture, so that's up to him.--- Darwin Ahoy! 00:50, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

OK. Thanks for the explanation. When I followed the wikinews link in the discussion I saw the same kind of bullying and newbie-bite I was subjected to by insiders there.
Personally, if I played a role in running the WMF, I'd warn the senior administrators there who insist on bullying newbies that they risk having the WMF tell the project to find a different host and different sponsors, as the WMF only supports projects that observe a basic level of civility. Geo Swan (talk) 02:18, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
Talk about bullying... Though I have been at peace here in Commons most of the times, I've had this most unfortunate episode in the French Wikipedia where I was basically treated as some form of inferior life, both me and my country were ridiculed, and almost got banned from that project, due to prejudice, misunderstanding and arrogance of the elders. Even had to endure xenophobic remarks by a local bureaucrat (now a steward). A very painful experience.
Nevertheless, this guy Saki or Saquib seems to have an history there for years now. One of his last acts seems to have been posing as a Wikimedia accredited journalist in an interview with the CC founder (which went less than perfectly) and creating a big mess out of it. He seems to have an aspiration to be a real journalist, and many of his attitudes seem to reflect that, including the gathering of this very valuable Mir photo of Bin Laden. As I said, he looks like the kind of guy who could be bold and convincing enough to get the photo from Mir, and the kind of guy who would forge the whole transaction as well. It's my personal opinion, of course, and without further elements, and not even the participation of Saqib in the discussion, I'll go for wathever the OTRS people decide.--- Darwin Ahoy! 12:07, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
My interpretation of the basic policies on these sites is that contributors are all expected to do their best to interact in a civil and collegial fashion -- that we are supposed to try to cultivate a culture of civility. Unfortunately, in my experience, subcultures of incivility have cropped up in the deletion fora, that are so well established that personal attacks are routine. Personal attacks are so routine on the English language wikipedia that they pass without comment, and apparently without notice.
Unfortunately there are a few of the English language wikipedia's administrators who are among the worst offenders -- who seem to think being entrusted with administrator authority has freed them from any obligation to be civil. Geo Swan (talk) 13:39, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
You're right. Indeed, I've had a recent experience in a deletion request which bordered personal attacks, to say the least, and they seemed to came out of the blue, and from people in positions of high responsibility from whom a different behaviour would have been expected. However, I come from an home wiki were people tend to be overpicky with "personal attacks", asking for blocks left and right with the most petty reasons, which can be quite tiresome. Therefore, I tend to regard the apparent laxity of Commons more like a picturesque trait of no great significance, since crass and continued offences will still be punished in the end, often with a ban. Nevertheless, it could be fairly expected, I believe, that if we cling to civilized manners, despite whatever would be on the opposite side, eventually civilization would prevail over barbarity.- Darwin Ahoy! 17:01, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

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Category:Guantanamo captives' biopix[edit]

Hello!

What are "biopix"? Is "biopix" the fancy short form of another word? --High Contrast (talk) 08:43, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your question. You are absolutely correct that this is not a transparent term, and it should be replaced with a term more easily understandable. Please forgive this oversight on my part. Would you agree to renaming the category to something like Category:Guantanamo captives' portrait photos?
Cheers! Geo Swan (talk) 08:50, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
I agree. But the subcategories must get renamed as well. Do you insert the {{rename}}-tag, please? --High Contrast (talk) 08:53, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
Are these edits ([1], [2]) all that you think is required to set in motion the process of renaming these categories? Is there a robot which will change the categories, on the individual images, when a {{Category redirect}} is applied to the old category? Cheers! Geo Swan (talk) 09:11, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
I have just made this edit. The CommonsDelinker is the proper slave to handle this. But I fear it will take some hours. This bot has obviously a respectable backlog. I will have a look on it. Regards, High Contrast (talk) 09:20, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for your help. Geo Swan (talk) 09:30, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

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NVO (talk) 18:21, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Regarding deletion of FOIA documents[edit]

Hi, Geo_Swan. Thanks for your note of support. Busy today, but will get back to you this evening. (I had planned to add another commment to the deletion pages, but the files were deleted before I could do so.) Elizabeth Blandra (talk) 15:12, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

P.S. Forgot to tack on my user info. The sockpuppetry thing was simply ignorance and/or stupidity on my part... I'll be happy to explain. I'm not sure how to e-mail you..., but I'll try to figure it out. Elizabeth Blandra (talk) 15:12, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

How do I e-mail you? Elizabeth Blandra (talk) 20:51, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
Geo_Swan, I finally spotted the e-mail link. Elizabeth Blandra (talk) 18:08, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Anal 3.jpg[edit]

Question - How does a picture on wiki commons of a person jamming something into his asshole help "millions of avoidable deaths" and prevent "millions of babies and mothers die at birth"? What does a man inserting something into his rectum have to do with "expectant mothers of all sizes, shapes, ages, health and ethnic group"? What lesson on human sexuality "intended to prevent the spread of sexually transmitted" does asshole jamming of foreign objects teach? Please educate me on how taking a random household item and putting up your ass prevents sexually transmitted diseases? Could you please list just one credible source that would attest to this. If it is true, then they must be sources out there, maybe the National Institute of Health, maybe Harvard University? Just give me one source to support your "jam stuff in your asshole to save a life" and the need to spread the word on wiki commons about this theory.

--Hold and wave (talk) 19:52, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

You ask a number of questions:
  1. How does a picture on wiki commons of a person jamming something into his asshole help "millions of avoidable deaths" and prevent "millions of babies and mothers die at birth"?
  2. What does a man inserting something into his rectum have to do with "expectant mothers of all sizes, shapes, ages, health and ethnic group"?
  3. What lesson on human sexuality "intended to prevent the spread of sexually transmitted" does asshole jamming of foreign objects teach?
  4. Could you please list just one credible source that would attest to this believe I have already answered all these questions.
  5. Please educate me on how taking a random household item and putting up your ass prevents sexually transmitted diseases?
I believe I already addressed the issues in your first three questions.
WRT your fourth question, perhaps you weren't aware that many contributors find it useful to do their own research? It took about twenty seconds to do this search.
WRT your fifth question -- sex toys, at least the premium ones, I have been informed, can be sterilized. Safe sex. The private parts of infected individuals however can not. Geo Swan (talk) 22:34, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
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Commons deletions[edit]

Hello. Thanks for the note. I never said that his failure to leave a meaninful explanation was acceptable. In fact, the whole point of my comments to him on his talk page was to try and get him to leave a more fulsome explanation. As to his decision to keep, that was his decision to make. I neither agreed nor disagreed, as I was completely undecided (every time I looked at the images I came to a different conclusion - very borderline). Because Jcb did not want to elaborate on his decision, I ultimately renominated the images, and they were eventually deleted.

I have in the past questioned some of his deletion discussion closures, although to be fair DR is an area where closing admins are unlikely to make friends. As it happens, yesterday I was looking at Commons:Deletion requests/File:Jewish Star Calgary19800822 front page.jpg, where his closing comment suggests that Jcb misunderstood the grounds for the proposed deletion. Again, to be fair, I have also closed/commented on DRs where I have misconstrued some key fact, so he didn't do anything in that discussion that I also have not done. --Skeezix1000 (talk) 13:27, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

Your note[edit]

Hi. I just noticed the note you left for me. I will respond shortly. Thanks. --Skeezix1000 (talk) 20:42, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

Could you please explain...[edit]

Why do you use the ISN number instead of the name of the individuals? Are these people just numbers for you? Iqinn (talk) 01:31, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

See User:Geo Swan/wl 2011 05 03#explanation. See Commons:Undeletion requests/Archive/2011-07#Request to undelete some redirects... where another contributor wrote: "Tell your critic that the file name is not being used to identify a person but simply a document. Identifying people with names used by their captors is not really giving respect to their identity as a person - to truely respect their identity I would use their names in whatever language the individual normally uses, but that doesn't appear to be included in these records."
The initial deletion -- Commons:Deletion requests/File pages moved by User:Geo Swan -- was flawed. The closing administrator's decision to close as delete was flawed. If it had been closed rapidly I would have renamed each of the files to a name like File:ISN_00004_Abdul_Haq_Wasiq.jpg, File:ISN_00006_Norullah_Nori.jpg, File:ISN_00027_Uthman_Abd_al-Rahm.jpg, File:ISN_00028_Muaz_Hamza_Ahmad_al-Said.jpg, File:ISN_01017_Omar_Muhammad_Ali_Al_Rammah.jpg, File:ISN_01030_Abdul_Hafiz.jpg. It would have been about ten times as convenient to rename them at the moment the upload succeeded, and I had the individual' reference name right on my clipboard. I didn't rename any of the files while the initial deletion discussion, and the subsequent deletion review were open. The deletion review wasn't closed for almost two months, and I had uploaded all 1000 files by that time.
I am prepared to make the effort to answer your question, "Are these people just numbers for you?" -- as soon as you clarify what you are asking. Geo Swan (talk) 17:44, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
The file name should not have the ISN number in it at all as it is dehumanizing and problematic under WP:BLP. Are you going to rename the images accordingly? Iqinn (talk) 01:50, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
Please understand that your comment "Are these people just numbers for you?" gives the appearance that you are POV-pushing. I have given you the opportunity to clarify the intent of your question, in case you meant something else. You have not chosen to offer another meaning.
I am afraid you don't know how disrespectful it appears when your replies ignore your correspondents' civilly expressed counter-points.
Please understand that the brevity of your reply gives the appearance you can't offer a meaningful response. Geo Swan (talk) 13:52, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
You are well know for BLP violations. I am asking you again. The file name should not have the ISN number in it at all as it is dehumanizing and problematic under WP:BLP. Are you going to rename the images accordingly? Iqinn (talk) 00:15, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
Iqinn - please share the phrasing from BLP that you are referring to. Using the numbers for a filename doesn't seem to violate COM:BLP (which is only a proposal), wmf:BLP (a generic Wikimedia-wide BLP policy), or even w:WP:BLP (which only applies to en.wiki, not to Commons). If you could share the particular phrasing from the policy which concerns you, it would make it easier to resolve this issue. Thanks! --Philosopher Let us reason together. 02:04, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
Philosopher - that COM does not has a valid BLP Policy to protect living people is already a violation of wmf:BLP. wmf:BLP sets the framework and there seems to be a strong consensus in the community that we take the rights of living individuals very serious in all of our projects. The topic here is that naming the images of individuals with their prison number instead of their real name is dehumanizing and should not be done. Iqinn (talk) 02:56, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
WRT your "dehumanizing" concern -- you have raised this concern literally dozens of times. But I do not remember you ever offered a policy based justification for this concern.
For all I know, if you really were able to make the effort to offer a clear policy based explanation of what you mean by dehumanizing, and how you think it lapses from policy, you might convince me.
Listen, I know you feel very strongly on this issue. But please understand -- your strong feelings on this issue count for nothing if you can't offer a meaningful explanation as to how the names you object to violate policy. Philosopher, an uninvolved third party, requested you point us to the sections of policy that back up your concern. Aren't you worried that by not quoting the specific passages you rick eroding your credibility? Geo Swan (talk) 03:52, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
Wikilawyering again? Don't you think you rick eroding your credibility by telling that you do not know what dehumanizing means? Do you think it is ok to dehumanize living people? Do you dispute that using the prison numbers instead of their real names is dehumanizing? Iqinn (talk) 04:08, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
  • (Sigh) Holding back from responding in kind to your provocations is an incredible burden.

    I know the standard meaning of dehumanizing. What I don't understand is (1) your non-standard definition of dehumanizing; (2) the policy or policies you think you can cite to justify your choice of names; (3) why you think you can characterize civil, sincere, good faith discussions of policy as "wikilawyering".

    WRT your question as to whether I want to dehumanize the captives -- I know you have reviewed the recently published detainee assessment briefs, because you referenced those documents when uploaded some of the portrait photos they included. Most of the DABs listed multiple aliases for the captives. And, for many of the captives, the names in the DAB differed from the names in the previously published official lists. For this reason it is absolutely essential that these file names contain the ISN. So, your choice, where you strip the file names of the ID numkers essential to distinguish one captive from another obfuscates their identities. Other contributors have suggested to you that it is the identity erasure you have pushed so strongly for that is the truly dehumanizing act. Geo Swan (talk) 07:30, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

  • (Sigh) Once again you do not answer the questions regarding the content and instead uses ad hominem arguments. No there is no reason for almost all of these individuals not to use the names of these individuals. Do you dispute that using the prison numbers instead of their real names is dehumanizing? Please answer. Iqinn (talk) 08:09, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
  • In this discussion, as in practically every discussion we have had, I have given you full, civil answers. As in practically every discussion, it seems to me, you have been unwilling or unable to answer my civil questions. In particular, you have never been able to offer a civil, policy-based explanation as to why we should obfuscate the identities of these individuals. Geo Swan (talk) 02:55, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
  • No, you did not answer the listed questions above and i have never been unwilling to answer your questions. So why don't you just answer my questions? Iqinn (talk) 07:10, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

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Fireboats in British Columbia[edit]

Hello!

It is somehow strange how you choose your category names: once you use the short cut of "British Columbia" (example Category:Fireboats in Vancouver, BC) and once you use the complete name (example Category:Fireboats in Victoria, British Columbia). Is there any very complex system behind, I cannot see? Or what's wrong? --High Contrast (talk) 08:23, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

There are no hidden meanings. Some months passed between when I started the categories. You can chalk this up to normal human inconsistency. Cheers! Geo Swan (talk) 16:28, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
Then find out out which of the two alternatives is more appropriate and create a consistent category tree. --High Contrast (talk) 08:49, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

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Vegetable sexuality[edit]

Superb! NVO (talk) 09:16, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

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--Stunteltje (talk) 19:02, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

And thanks for the support. "names that apply to all ships and ship-like vessels, and which do not require specialized knowledge of local naming conventions." --Stunteltje (talk) 06:23, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you![edit]

Special Barnstar Hires.png The Special Barnstar
I appreciate the way that you clearly stated your view of why sexual content should be available. [3]. "Please remember that 3.5 billion males live on planet Earth. A very large fraction of those males are too young to have had sexual relations, so don't know what female genitals look like. Another large fraction have had sexual relations -- but always in the dark. They too won't know what female genitals look like. And, of the remainder of men, their experiences of sex will have been in conditions of low light, or when some other concerns were preoccupying them, and they weren't paying close attention to the appearance of their partner's anatomy. Almost every male would benefit from access to a good, well-lit, clinical picture of female anatomy, particularly if it had all the organs labeled. The 3.5 billion women probably include a large fraction who would benefit from a clinical image, so they could reach an informed opinion as to whether their organs were normal." We may not agree with each other about whether an particular image should be kept, but we both agree that we need a good selection of high quality images for the reasons that you stated so well. Keep on discussing your opinion so that we are better able to reach consensus. FloNight♥♥♥ 16:42, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

Edmonton[edit]

I'm pretty sure that the car in question is Hanover #601, which belongs to the society. I also can't find any sources which suggest that ETS runs anything other than Siemens LRVs. Mackensen (talk) 01:07, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

Photo of Dawn Dumont[edit]

Hi Geo Swan,

I noticed that you cropped the photo on the Dawn Dumont page. I am Dawn Dumont and I would really like that photo taken down but i do not have the permissions to do so. Can you please remove it? Or let me know how I get it taken down?

Thank you.

Dawn

Greetings!
First, let me congratulate you on having an interesting career. I am the primary author of the wikipedia articles Dawn Dumont, Okanese First Nation, Connie Walker and Marie-Anne Day Walker-Pelletier. I was touched by a profile of Ms Walker, on a visit to her family home, and decided to learn more about the Okanese First Nation. That is how I came across you and Ms Walker-Pelletier. I created all four articles at the same time. I enjoyed doing so, and wish the three of you every success.
I am sorry to tell you that the wikimedia commons is not like flickr, or facebook -- while I uploaded the image I don't control it. I don't have permission to delete it myself. I can initiate a discussion to get it deleted, where you could explain why you want it deleted.
I recently went on record in several other discussions, telling other contributors that we generally don't delete older images when newer images arrive. So I can't argue for deleting the original images, without contradicting myself. I will argue for using your preferred image if anyone wants to use one of the other images.
While I will argue for your preferred image, personally I prefer the original image. They are both flattering images, that show you are a beautiful young woman, but I think your intelligent shows more in the original. In my opinion you also look more genuinely joyful in the original.
Ms Dumont, if you keep a clipping file, feel free to let me know about any articles that touch on your career, that I didn't include in your article. If I think I can use them to expand your article, while complying with our rules, I'd be happy to do so.
Cheers! Geo Swan (talk) 22:57, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

Bouquet versus Rothesay Castle[edit]

I experienced a problem with File:Ferry Bouquet on the Great Lakes.jpg, as the title doesn't match the illustration. The title maches with the second thumbnail: Bouquet. I found information for the Bouquet as: Bouquet (0634) 82x18x6 Owned by J. J. Dickinson, Cornwall Ont. 1860; to J. Sutter, Toronto 1866; to R. W. Parkinson, Toronto 1869, 1874; J. O. Glendinning, Toronto 1877. New engine 1876: 20x42 by Inglis & Hunter, Toronto (to "Canadian"). Ran on Upper St. Lawrence; to Toronto ferry 1866. Was to have been renamed "Emma" 1870 but wasn’t. Broken up 1882. Hull partly blown up as attraction August 1884; remains still sunk in island backwater 1889. On [4]. Information on the Rothsay Castle on [5] at "View pictures here". So I categorised the image as Rothesay Castle (ship, 1861), as further information lacks at that site. How to proceed, renaming and/or re-uploading the image of the Bouquet? By the way - I saw your barnstar - congratulations. --Stunteltje (talk) 16:02, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

dawn dumont[edit]

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Please take down the picture you have posted to the wikipedia page under Dawn Dumont. Dawnmarie11 (talk) 20:01, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
Hi, I'm curious as to why you acceded to this request and also had the article deleted - from what I understood, this person was notable and the article contained nothing objectionable. -mattbuck (Talk) 22:29, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
Sure. Two reasons, no three reasons:
  1. I figured her notability was right on the cusp, and if an {{afd}} was initiated her opposition would push the article over the edge, to deletion;
  2. After doing all that work, I felt sympathetic to Ms Dumont;
  3. After doing all that work, I am put out that Ms Dumont characterized my efforts as possibly malicious.
  4. I think there is a chance that, if she really does ask for advice, many of her friends and colleagues will tell her she would be well advised to ask for the article to be restored.
You wrote well, and I agreed with everything you wrote. Perhaps I didn't make that clear. I hope you didn't feel my response wasted your time. Geo Swan (talk) 03:49, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

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I believe that Admin MGA73 or MBisanz once told me that an image should haver 1 license. But, you're right. I have seen some image with multiple free licenses. So, I'll revert my edit in the 2 pictures I marked. Regards, --Leoboudv (talk) 18:32, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

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Please re-upload this file -> File:Sunset in Prince Rupert -b. Your previous upload seems to have failed. - Takeaway (talk) 19:44, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

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Hello!

The licence tag for this file is broken. Can you fix it, pleae? Thanks in advance, High Contrast (talk) 08:55, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

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Watersheds[edit]

Hi, this clearly sound like an inconsistence due to some dispute between americans/canadians. In fact i'm more focused in regrouping files about rivers maps all over the world; that because for non english speakers could be really hard to find maps about rivers if they're sparsed in a lot of categories because of political boundaries (let's think about Donau/Duna in europe). Some of them are included in "river maps", some other in "watersheds", and some are sparsed inside "rivers of xxx country" categories, and so on. I'm trying to differenciate maps by this criteria:

  • the ones about rives paths, from the ones about river basins (areas)
  • and the ones limited to a single country/state (or other administrative subdivision) focusing, from the ones about all the watersheds.

With this goals in mind i start to create some subcategories by continent, of course files related to different countries have to be classified too in their respective subcategories by country. So i.e. Yukon river have to be both in "maps of Canadian rivers", "Maps of rivers of the United states" and "Drainage basin maps of North America" (at least till some more specific subcategories like "drainage basin maps of Canada" or "Drainage basin maps of Alaska" are created). I thank you for noted this dicrepancy, and i hope you will give some suggestion about this little reordering project. Ciaurlec (talk) 17:59, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

I made some of these maps. I made them prior
I am not aware of Category:River maps. It is my understanding that a river's watershed, and its basin are synonymous. I think there could be a third synonym out there. If these terms are truly synonums then we should choose one synonym and use it in all the category names.
For what it is worth I am quite concerned about how we use categories here, and on the various wikipedias.
  1. Categories don't keep any memory of which files, articles or subcategories have been held in a category. You may have experienced this yourself: (1) some newbie doesn't like an existing category name, and starts a parallel category; (2) they take all the elements out of the original category and place them in the new parallel category; (3) an administrator comes along and deleltes the original category, on the grounds it is empty and unused.
  2. Categories don't provide a mechanism for the contributor who added an element to document why they think it belongs. Granted this is more of a problem on the wikipedias.
  3. In practice categories suffer from definition creep.
Cheers! Geo Swan (talk) 18:47, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you![edit]

Surreal Barnstar Hires.png The My God What a Wall of Text Barnstar, I mean, I've seen War and Peace, but damn mate, you make that look like a Spot the Dog book. I was just so overwhelmed by its sheer immensity I had to pop myself a beer. Because on that hallowed ground, open ok enough with copyvioing Weird Al, really that was a big wall of text and I am truly impressed, both by you and anyone who actually reads it. Way to go me! For your impressively large contribution please have this barnstarry barnstar of long-winded barnstarriness. Go Wildcats!
Barnstarrystarrynight -mattbuck (Talk) 14:30, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
I reduced the size of this barnstar. Geo Swan (talk) 16:59, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

Jcb de-admin[edit]

Geo Swan, I would ask you to reconsider to recent habit to comment every not-remove "vote" in this request. Our bureaucrats aren't idiots who can't think for themselves or can't discern mere sympathy votes (which aren't invalid per se) from more substantiated votes. IMO your action is even contraproductive for your "side", as the more puffed-up the discussion becomes, the less a bureaucrat will be willing to read through the kBytes. --Túrelio (talk) 19:39, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

OK. Geo Swan (talk) 19:42, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
It looks like Jcb didn't handle that situation well and you do have a valid point. I'm torn though as I know that Jcb does a lot of valuable work as an admin, and generally seems to be thoughtful in his actions. Perhaps he just needs a wikibreak. Regardless, thanks for sharing your opinions on this. Although I still feel like de-admining would be an over-reaction, I think Jcb does need to do a better job assuming good faith and communicating with editors who raise legitimate objections. Kaldari (talk) 20:42, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for the reply.
I don't think de-sysopping is an over-reaction. I've been aware of his unwillingness to explain his closures since May. I have been one of the people making good faith attempts to explain to him how damaging this is. He has never acknowledged that his current behavior is problematic. Rather he claimed in the discussion he does the right thing 99.7 percent of the time(!) He had an attempt to de-sysop him in July, and the dissatisfaction expressed there did not budge him one iota. I am afraid his record suggests any expectation he is going to change, this time, is hopeless.
As for whether he has been doing such a good job, in my opinion, every contested deletion discussion, closed without explanation is an instance of him doing a bad job. His insistence of closing a disproportionate share of discussions over images of human sexuality are all instances of him doing a bad job, when his comments show he can't bring an open mind to those discussions. Geo Swan (talk) 20:56, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

"Per Nom" comments in DRs[edit]

I disagree strongly with comments you have made questioning the value of "Per nom" comments. If the nom is unknown to me and the "Per nom" comes from someone I do know, it makes it easier to close the DR. Please remember that ten Admins do 700 deletions per day (another 300 are done by the other 245 Admins) and the backlog is not shrinking. Of necessity we work fast and anything that helps that is good.      Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 14:19, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

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I've taken the liberty of combining all these into 1 DR. -mattbuck (Talk) 19:46, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

Flickrreview problem at present[edit]

Dear George, Re: Emergency note.

If possible, pls. reduce your number of image uploads from other peoples accounts for a few days. The problem has nothing to do with you. Its just that the flickr review bot has been malfunctioning for 2 days now. I sent a Message to MGA73 about it and have marked some images in the overflowing 170+ image flickr review category. But once Monday starts, I can mark only a few images. If someone changes the flickr license before its reviewed of an image you uploaded, it will be failed and deleted as a copy vio sadly. I'll try to mark some of yours now...but please understand, I'm supposed to treat everyone equally. All I can is hope Bryan, the (absent) operator of the flickr bot can fix the problem as the images needing review category approaches 200 photos. Or that Admin MGA73 can reach him about it. Regards, --Leoboudv (talk) 01:17, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

Yes, happy to oblige. Cheers! Geo Swan (talk) 01:20, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
The flickr upload bot is also AWOL, FWIW. Geo Swan (talk) 01:22, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
  • I was thinking of the flickr upload too but I guess its down. Yikes! It looks like only Bryan can fix this situation. I passed your uploads, I believe in time before there were any flickr license changes. We are all waiting for Bryan to help here. --Leoboudv (talk) 01:49, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
    • We are all volunteers here. I think that when the tools are working again I should show the maintainters some wikilove. Geo Swan (talk) 01:52, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
    • I don't have to wait, I can express some appreciation now for your processing those flickr images. Thanks! Geo Swan (talk) 01:55, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
  • Sure no problem. BTW, I didn't know Jcb was de-Admined until 20 minutes ago. I was upset that Hoangquan/Bluemarble quit Commons because of his comments at the latter's RfA. Its a pity to lose someone of Bluemarble's calibre...even though I thought his RfA was a bit premature since he got his review rights only a few months ago. that was why I avoided any votes in the Jcb or Bluemarble cases although I did vote for Rillke's succesful RfA. Well, Best Regards, --Leoboudv (talk) 02:03, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

File:USCG Dolphin helicopters.jpg[edit]

Thanks for your heads-up - it looks like I slipped up there. I'll try to correct that and any other problems at that time. Just trying to get 'em all in the right places. PeterWD (talk) 17:37, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

PS Belay that - looks like I correctly removed it from Category:United States Coast Guard helicopters, so that it only appears in sub Category:Eurocopter HH-65 Dolphin, that is dedicated to the coast guard service. It should not be in both, and no other helicopter type is in the image; I hope you agree. PeterWD (talk) 17:44, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Flickr upload problem?[edit]

Is there a problem with the flickr upload bot still? This image was uploaded by the flickr upload bot on November 17 with no issues. This user uploaded numerous images using the flickr upload bot on that day. Maybe it works now...which is more than I can say with the flickr review bot sadly. Best Regards, --Leoboudv (talk) 00:19, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

  • This was uploaded on November 18. Cheers, --Leoboudv (talk) 03:27, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
  • I held off using the tools. I'll try the flickr upload bot tomorrow. Cheers! Geo Swan (talk) 03:59, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment: That's fine. BTW, It looks like the flickr review bot is finally working at last. Hope this helps. Regards, --Leoboudv (talk) 08:42, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
  • I'd use the flickr upload bot though as the flickr review bot still marks irregularly. It marked 9 out of 31 images just 1 hour ago. Regards, --Leoboudv (talk) 22:56, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

File:GIs at Naval Station Guantanamo Bay’s Emergency Operations Center.jpg[edit]

The file you had uploaded was much smaller (810 × 516 pixels) and distorted (egg heads). The file uploaded by the bot has higher resolution (2,100 × 1,395 pixels) and is undistorted.
The larger file has been uploaded 10:56, 14 May 2010.
Your file has been uploaded one day later (17:54, 15 May 2010).
Of course I added the only additional category to the larger file.
I think that should be acceptable for you. -- Common Good (talk) 14:50, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

File:Jilly's,_a_bar_that_has_been_advertizing_exotic_dancers_for_at_least_four_decades,_on_Queen_Street_and_Broadview_Avenue_-b.jpg[edit]

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File:Great Lakes Steamship Cumbria.jpg[edit]

You uploaded this image with a source as a Google book. I was hoping to add the date of construction and build location categories but the image does not occur in the pages of the book available for viewing. Do you perhaps have a real paper copy you could check? Or another source? Thanks. Rmhermen (talk) 18:09, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, no, but I will keep my eyes peeled. Geo Swan (talk) 11:56, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

Tip: Categorizing images[edit]

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Hello, Geo Swan/archive!

Tip: Add categories to your images

Thanks a lot for contributing to the Wikimedia Commons! Here's a tip to make your uploads more useful: Why not add some categories to describe them? This will help more people to find and use them.

Here's how:

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Just a tip[edit]

Please turn the date off on your camera. You have recently uploaded many of your own photographs which are not very usable with a date stamp. Thanks. Secondarywaltz (talk) 23:25, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

Copyright status: File:Bernard Webber's daughter, Pattie Hamilton, stamps the keel of the vessel named after him -a.jpg[edit]

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Saibo (Δ) 02:57, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

  • Original caption: “Ms. Pattie Hamilton stamps the keel of the first U.S. Coast Guard Sentinel Class Fast Response Cutter during a keel laying ceremony. The first FRC is named after Ms. Hamilton's father, Petty Officer 1st Class Bernard C. Webber, who executed one of the most famous rescues in Coast Guard history. (U.S. Coast Guard photo by Petty Officer 2nd Class Thomas M. Blue.)Geo Swan (talk) 17:05, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
Sure, sure - but it was missing any template. Thanks for fixing! Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 03:33, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

File:Bernard Webber's daughter, Pattie Hamilton, stamps the keel of the vessel named after him -a.jpg[edit]

Hello!

Why did you choose {{PD-USGov}} as licence instead of {{PD-USCG}} (it is obviously a Coast Guard image)? Strange because you have uploaded lots of such Coast Guard files. --High Contrast (talk) 22:15, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

I find {{PD-USCG}} counter-intuitive and really hard to remember. Geo Swan (talk) 04:10, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
It is indeed counter-intuitive but that's no real reason not to use it. You can save that tag anywhere on your userpage so that you can find it easier. --High Contrast (talk) 08:59, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Wiki Loves Monuments[edit]

Hey, Geo Swan. Would you be interested in helping organize a potential Canadian component of the 2012 edition of Wiki Loves Monuments? I am compiling a list of people that have varying degrees of interest in pursuing this. Cheers, --Skeezix1000 (talk) 19:06, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

  • I am interested. Geo Swan (talk) 23:12, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
Great. We'll talk early in the new year. Have a good holiday. --Skeezix1000 (talk) 21:09, 22 December 2011 (UTC)