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transfer to commons[edit]

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Image Tagging Image:Buscando La Luz IV.jpg[edit]

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Antwoord op je vraag op mijn overlegpagina. Huskyoog.jpg Husky (talk to me) 12:39, 29 April 2007 (UTC)


Image Tagging Image:De_Young_02.jpg[edit]

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Image:Nasher_01.jpg[edit]

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Image Tagging Image:Minneapolis_Sculpture_Garden.jpg[edit]

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Matt314 13:03, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Your question[edit]

Yes, it is for the reason you say (although, when I created it, the category did contain several images, since then removed for copyviol, e.g. Image:Grand Rapids Cavallo 2.jpg: this is why it is now empty). There is a growing problem with "freedom of panorama" and living artists (whose work MAY NOT as a principle be uploaded, apart for a very limited range of cases, most of which unfortunately do not apply to Commons). You can read a bit of the discussion here Commons:Village_pump#Freedom_of_Panorama_issues. I was considering the creation of a category "artists whose works might not be uploaded on Commons", but since there is not a unique rule to follow wordlwide (SOME countries allow Freedom of panorama, others don't, others do but except sculptures from it, and so on) this solution is not feasible.

Furthermore, please don't forget that the category I created may still contain, for instance, pictures OF the artist, works ABOUT this artist, and anything the artist may be willing to waive to us, in case some of us had the time and the patience to ask him/her the permission.

I hope I answered your question. Best wishes. --User:G.dallorto 10:14, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

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--User:G.dallorto 21:23, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

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User:G.dallorto 13:43, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Kinetic art sculptors[edit]

Hi, I've moved 'Kinetic art sculptors' back to a sub-cat of Sculptors rather than 'Kinetic art' and added a 'see also' link on the 'Kinetic art' category page. It seems more logical to have a group of sculptors as a branch under sculptors, rather than under a category of their works. Does that make sense ? :-) --Tony Wills 12:18, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. My thinking is that wikimedia categories define a tree, or multiple trees, with the branches being the categories and the images being the leaves at the end of branches. One tree I see here is a tree of images of
Sculptures
Sculptures by materials
Sculptures by subject
Sculptures by museum
Sculptures by period
Sculptures by country
Black and white photographs of sculptures
Busts
Marble sculptures
Mobiles
Reliefs
Round sculptures
Torso

Now my thinking is that Kinetic art should be a subcat here along with Mobiles etc. And within Kinteic art should be images of Kinetic Art pieces (or subcats with them in).

There is another tree of

Sculptors
Kinetic art sculptors
Sculptors by period
Sculptors in art
Sculptors by country
Sculptors' studios
Stone sculptor
(Plus a whole bunch of individual sculptors)

The Kinetic artists (Kinetic art sculptors) should be in this tree as the artists are not themselves pieces of kinetic art :-) (Well they are perhaps if you believe in a maker of the universe who crafted humans in his image ... ;-). There can be see-also type links linking the trees together rather than having bits of one tree also in the other tree.

Maybe it would be clearer if there were categories for each artist (eg Henry Moore) that contain images of the artist themselves (eg portraits & photos) and a separate category of each artist's images (eg Works of Henry Moore).
  • But having said all that, I'll leave you in peace to organise things as you see fit, because I've already got far to much to do in other areas and thinking about the wiki-commons category system makes my head hurt :-). Maybe you have a different ,clearer view of things :-) --Tony Wills 11:25, 1 June 2007 (UTC)


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Also Image:DMA sculpture garden.jpg Image:Ellsworth Kelly02.jpg Image:Ellsworth Kelly.jpg Image:NMA001.jpg Image:DMA002.jpg William Avery 12:20, 11 June 2007 (UTC)


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Also Image:NGA 02.jpg and Image:Minneapolis11.jpg William Avery 16:10, 11 June 2007 (UTC)


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Hi! I deleted this picture because it represents a copyrighted artwork. France has no freedom of panorama. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 14:19, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Kinetic art[edit]

Hi again. Not sure why you cleared the content of page "Kinetic art", doesn't seem appropriate to leave a blank page. The page is admittedly rather out of date and needs a bit of updating. If you think the page should be deleted it would be better to nominate it for deletion {{because}} and follow the deletion process and see if anyone agrees. I have updated the gallery page, what do you think? --Tony Wills 13:23, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Concerning sculptures in public spaces[edit]

Hi Gerardus. Many of the pictures you uploaded from Flickr depict sculptures that are still protected by copyright. That concerns e.g works by Niki de Saint-Phalle, Jean Tinguely and so on. Pictures representing such works are not allowed on Commons, except if they are covered by freedom of panorama. Countries such as France, Belgium, Italy or the US do not allow this exception for sculptures. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 17:40, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

My message here did not imply any criticism of your work. I wished to warn you in order to avoid any unnecessary work: it would be very frustrating for you to upload pictures, describe and categorize them only to found them deleted some moments after. I'm personnaly more interested in ancient artwork but I understand how it feels to have an article about a sculpture without any picture to show for it. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 17:40, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

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Freedom of panorama[edit]

Hi Gerardus, I read your message on Pertsubarbygere's talk page. Pictures under the FOP blanket are OK and welcome on Commons. Please note that Japanese FOP is non-commercial only, though, and thus not accepted on Commons. I guess D-slay got a bit carried on. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 16:30, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

In my opinion Petrusbarbygere says basically the same thing that I do. There are a lot of pictures on Commons which aren't covered by FOP, and I'm currently checking the categories under Category:Paris about them. Don't forget we are not native speakers, so it's best not to speculate too much about how people express their opinion :-) Jastrow (Λέγετε) 07:03, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Slapende honden ...[edit]

Sorry, ik wil geen homerische en "grote" debatten, maar als ik het zo ongeveer begrijp zijn de beelden in Category:Irénée Duriez die op de grote markt staan in Roeselare niet toegelaten hier. Praktisch gezien, moet ik er misschien een japanese toerist of pekineesje bijzetten op de foto (of een duif erbij fotoshoppen) zodat het wel kan ?

En Category:Hugo Verriest, kan dat nog (net) - achterliggend postgebouw dan ook niet want architectuur ?

Die Belgische no-FOP: is dat echt onderzocht of denkt men het ?

Gaan wij hier straks een syndicaat voor beeldrechten moeten oprichten ? --Foroa 08:05, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Sorry voor de storing en alvast bedankt voor uw antwoord; zoals ik al zei wens ik geen groot debat noch officiële discussies. Wat ik je gewoon vragen wou betreft de praktische kant hier: in praktijk, kunnen wij verder doen op de commons zonder al te veel strubbelingen of mag ik mij verwachten dat sommige van de hierboven aangehaalde beelden op een of andere dag weggezwierd gaan worden. Kortom, wat is de binnenweg of loont het gewoon de moeite niet meer om nog dergelijke foto's te nemen ? --Foroa 10:11, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Bedankt. Er is dus geen binnenweg, aan de NO-FOP ontsnap je niet en dat was de hoofdbedoeling van mijn vraag. Nogmaals sorry voor de storing. --Foroa 11:31, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Bustes in Grouw?[edit]

Gerardus, ben je niet een beetje erg detaillistisch aan het worden om een categorie "Busts in Grouw" en "Sculptures in Grouw" aan te maken? Als de categorie voor heel Nederland te vol is, lijkt mij een verdeling over de provincies veel handiger dan een verdeling waarbij elk dorp een aparte categorie krijgt. Bouwe Brouwer 11:11, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

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Thanks[edit]

Hi Gerardus. Thanks for adding categories to many of my photos of sculptures from south-western germany. I am mostly busy with constantly uploading new stuff, so that i never pay much attention to categorizing and always hope for contributors like you. Greetings--Bufu 17:36, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Wuppertal[edit]

Ich habe gesehen das du die Kategorien Category:Statues und Category:Sculptures für Wuppertal angelgt und einige Bilder aus Category:Monuments of Wuppertal verschoben hattest.

So ganz kann ich das System aber noch nicht verstehen, bist du nicht fertig geworden? Oder hattest du einige "Statues" in Category:Monuments übersehen? --Atamari 17:12, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Briser la glace[edit]

Salut,

On peut effectivement établir une distinction entre Category:Glassware (tout ce qui concerne le travail du verre en général) et Category:Glass art (la partie proprement artistique du travail du verre — vitraux, verres soufflés, etc. —, i.e. non « utilitaire »), en incluant la dernière dans la première.

Cependant actuellement, la plupart des sous-catégories de Category:Glass art me semblent mal placées : Category:Islamic glass art devrait être renommée Category:Islamic glassware, et la plupart des catégories nationales (Category:Glass in Australia, etc.) devraient être renommées (Category:Glassware in Australia, etc., qu'on pourra éventuellement sous-découper en Category:Glass art in Australia, etc.) et isolées dans une catégorie-mère : Category:Glassware by country.

En revanche, Category:Glassblowing, Category:Glass paintings, Category:Stained glass, Category:Glass artists, etc. ont tout leur sens dans Category:Glass art. Qu'en dis-tu ?

I hope it was clear in French. I tryed it since I saw your fr-level-2 in the Babel form; there's nothing like a mother tongue. I could rewrite it in English if you prefer—feel free to answer the language you wish.

Amitiés. Bibi Saint-Pol (sprechen) 16:09, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

C'est noté. Bon courage pour la suite. Bibi Saint-Pol (sprechen) 15:55, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Willem de Kooning[edit]

hello there, thank you for your message. As far as I know, any images of sculptures of de Kooning have to be protected, since his work is not in the public domain. But I could be wrong, the tag is confusing even for me and I am no lawyer. Maybe the question should be posed in a larger forum to get a better answer? Gryffindor 15:15, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Glass art in New Zealand[edit]

Hello Gerardus,

You recently moved two images into the 'Glass art in New Zealand' category, which you created. When you create such a category, please also ensure that the category also links to the country, not only the 'glass art by country' category! I.e. 'Glass art in New Zealand' needs to be a subcat of 'Category:Art of New Zealand' as well. Cheers, Ingolfson 08:17, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

No need to be sorry. Just thought you might not have known. Cheers. Ingolfson 09:29, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

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nl:Tiroler Volkskunstmuseum[edit]

Hallo, ich habe unlängst eine verfälschende Bildbeschreibung bearbeitet für ein Bild, das auch in der nlWP genutzt wird: Ich verstehe gerade soviel, dass Image:Salter_der_Weinberger_in_FestKleidung_19_Jhdt.JPG dort als "Weinbauer" ausgewiesen wird, was nicht stimmt: Es ist ein Weinhüter oder Flurhüter, der von der Gemeinde gewählt wurde und vom 15. August bis zum Ende der Traubenernte in seinem Revier für jedenfalls mehrere Weinbauern tätig war, um als schreckenerregende (und körperkräftige) Gestalt den Diebstahl von Trauben zu verhindern; dafür genoss er besonderes Ansehen und wurde auch entsprechend entlohnt. Ich vermute, dass es einem Holländer kaum zwei Minuten kostet, die Bildbeschreibung im genannten nlWP Artikel entsprechend zu korrigieren (oder gleich auch im Bild selber, +NL).

Nebenbei: Das Bild oberhalb zeigt nicht den "Kreuzgang der Hofkirche", sondern des Franziskanerklosters, zu dem diese gehört. Mit Gruß, WeHaWoe 09:57, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Moin WeHaWoe, ich habe die Bildbeschreibungen so gut wie möglich korrigiert in Nl-Wikipedia. Grüsse--Gerardus 12:50, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
<3 <3 <3 ;))) -- WeHaWoe 11:05, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

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