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Via your comment on meta:OTRS/Volunteering[edit]

Hello, I saw your comment on the Meta page for OTRS about helping me become more active on commons and would actually like to take you up on that offer. I've always wanted more cross wiki contribs but I don't really know where to start with Commons. My main focus on EN is mostly doing stuff like AfC, anti-vandalism and cleanup, so if there is stuff like that on Commons I can help with that would be great! Any pointers you can give would be greatly appreciated! CodeLyoko (talk) 00:44, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

Hey CodeLyoko. (Sorry for the long response.) I've done a good bit of AfC and also NPP myself back on en.wiki. A lot of what got me into Commons was copyright cleanup. Commons has a recent changes feed like en.wiki does, but it also has a latest files feed (over on the left) for all the new uploads, and there are a lot of them. I would have a tab open on en.wiki and one here, and every now and again I would refresh the latest file feed here to see if anything looked out of place.
You get a feel for it after a while. Like you've probably gotten a pretty good feel for anti-vandalism over at en.wiki. "Hmm, a batch of historic images from an archive... a lot of similar images from ComicCon, aaaand it's a 100% professional quality airbrushed head shot from a Taiwanese celebrity. One of these things is not like the other." 10 to 1 odds it's marked as "own work", there is no original meta data at the bottom of the file page, and a google image search finds it all over the internet. Nominate for speedy deletion as a copyright violation, and if at all possible, look at the user's contributions to see if they have more. You can also filter the list a bunch of different ways, but you have to play around with it a bit.
There are a few gadgets that are pretty essential under your preferences. AjaxQuickDelete and Quick Delete will give you options on your side bar to nominate obvious copyright violations, to start a deletion request (the same thing as en:WP:FFD, when files need discussion rather than immediate obvious deletion), or request that the user provide permission to OTRS (usually when a source is given but there is no license at the source). VisualFileChange will give you the option to do batch tasks, like nominate 50 copyvios at a time, rather than doing it manually. Finally, GoogleImages tab will give you a button at the top that will do quick reverse Google image searches.
Maybe that's enough to get you started without overwhelming you. Just like en.wiki, there's a lot to learn, but most people are super COM:MELLOW about it, and you tend to pick most of it up naturally just by hanging around a bit. You're always welcome to stop by and ask any questions you might have, or ask them at the help desk, and I'm usually not too far away from there either. Thanks for your interest, and again, I hope I'm not overwhelming you with a long response. GMGtalk 01:39, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

How do we stop Corruption in Africa? ( You commented)[edit]

You commented on my publication that the space is for something else. Please I would like you to clearify your statements, for me to start doing things your way. But if I got you right, are you saying the space shoulod be for solutions rather than problems. Thank you. But seriously, how do I become a regular contributor on wikimedia? What link must I click and what should be the contents?

And secondly, who are you? Thank you.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by PoetryVacancy (talk • contribs) 14:26, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
Hey PoetryVacancy. I'm just a volunteer like most everybody else here. I was born in Germany but live in the United States where in work in a position of no particular importance with the US Military.
If you would like to learn more about contributing to Wikimedia Commons, you may want to start with our tutorial for new users, which can help you get acquainted with much of how Commons works, and what it is here for. GMGtalk 14:34, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

How do we stop Corruption in Africa? (RE: YOU COMMENTED)[edit]

I saw the links and what images to put on Wikimedia, but it did not link me to a space where I can register and become a regular contributor. Or can I continue contributing on Village Pump? I want to become a regular contributor because I am a short story writer,poet and a Computer Science student at National Open University Nigeria. I like writing a lot. I am not on Wikimedia to post images online: it is not my thing to be taking photographs. The second reason I want to become a regular contributor is because it is one of the criteria for Wikimedia users who want to apply for Wikimania and attend the workshops organized yearly by Wikipedia. Kindly answer this for me. thank you.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by PoetryVacancy (talk • contribs) 14:55, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
Hey PoetryVacancy. You may be interested in contributing to one of our many sister projects. WikiData is a project for free structured data. Wikipedia is a project for building a free encyclopedia. WikiBooks for books, WikiQuote for quotes, and WikiNews for news, to name a few. GMGtalk 15:02, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) @PoetryVacancy: and Wikiversity for original research. For fictional stories and poems, try something like Blogger, Wordpress or Fan Fiction Wiki. (will not help you with Wikimania though) - Alexis Jazz ping plz 15:15, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

Email[edit]

(Talk/留言/토론/Discussion) 15:32, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

With regards to the email, I missed out the part stating that it might or might not be the said user. (Talk/留言/토론/Discussion) 15:36, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
Hey 大诺史. Thanks for the heads up. Looks like I already blocked them yesterday, but you might want to consider filing a steward request if they have graduated to extensive cross-wiki vandalism. GMGtalk 15:39, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
I will look through the global contributions of the IP and user and determine whether a lock is necessary :) (Talk/留言/토론/Discussion) 15:40, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

Question[edit]

How to use images that i don't own

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Theabbie (talk • contribs) 15:38, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
Hey Theabbie. If you do not own the images, and the owner has not released them under a suitable license for free public use, then unfortunately we cannot use them, and we will have to find alternative images that are free, or we will have to wait for such images to become available. GMGtalk 15:42, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

Can i use images from google images Theabbie (talk) 15:44, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

Hey Theabbie. If you are using Google images, and you select Tools -> Usage rights -> Labeled for reuse with modification then those images are most likely usable here. The search does occasionally make mistakes, but for the most part is correct. GMGtalk 15:47, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

tags[edit]

Hi GMG, do consider adding everything from User:大诺史/common.js to your own common.js, except for the first line. It allows you to tag files for speedy with more ease. (Talk/留言/토론/Discussion) 16:53, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

Hey 大诺史. Honestly? I don't really touch my .js because I'm not very technically advanced and I'm always afraid that if I screw something up I won't be able to fix it Face-tongue.svg GMGtalk 16:56, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
Oh alright :) (Talk/留言/토론/Discussion) 17:07, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
But we really should have a standard gadget here for handling speedy deletions. Strange that such a large project wouldn't have one already. GMGtalk 17:17, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
There really isn't much people that are capable of maintaining and creating the gadget. (Talk/留言/토론/Discussion) 13:12, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
Unfortunately. I've been saying for a while, that in all the work the Foundation puts into fretting about things that don't really matter, they really should take some of those millions of dollars and please hire a couple of programmers to help maintain all our dozens of tools and gadgets. Half of the ones we use every day are barely maintained or not maintained at all. GMGtalk 13:20, 25 September 2019 (UTC)

Correct syntax for multiple images in derived from[edit]

Hey, I've uploaded a GIF which contains multiple derived from images. I am trying to figure out what the correct syntax is for that. Would you be able to help me? The image is here: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Search_prototype_for_the_Desktop_improvements_project.gif AHollender (WMF) (talk) 19:13, 25 September 2019 (UTC)

Hey AHollender (WMF). Instead of using {{Derived from|1.jpg}} {{Derived from|2.jpg}} {{Derived from|3.jpg}} you would use {{Derived from|1.jpg|2.jpg|3.jpg}}. But you also need to verify that all the images used are under comparable licenses. For example, if of one of them is CCBYSA 4.0, rather than 3.0, then your composite work also needs to be under CCBYSA 4.0. GMGtalk 19:19, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for your quick reply :) I understand your point about licenses. I've been using the {{Wikimedia-screenshot}} license for these, which states "Creative Commons Attribution Share-Alike 3.0 license". In the case you mentioned I assume I would need a different type of license?
@AHollender (WMF): GFDL and Creative Commons are by far the most common. But if you run into something really obscure, we can always look into it further. Probably the most common issue, as I said, is making sure you have the # CCBYSA license that is at least as high or higher than all your derived media. They're compatible up the chain (1->2->3->4), but not back down the chain. That means we have a lot of 4.0 media that is not backward-compatible with Wikipedia's 3.0, even though Wikipedia is forward-compatible with them. GMGtalk 23:50, 25 September 2019 (UTC)

Missing thumbnail on a PDF[edit]

Hey GMG, I was wondering if you have any ideas for how I might fix this missing thumbnail issue? File is here: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimania_-_desktop_improvements_session_final_version.pdf. Thanks AHollender (WMF) (talk) 15:18, 27 September 2019 (UTC)

@AHollender (WMF): I...thought this was a known bug. But I'm mostly stuck on mobile at the moment. @Jmabel, Jeff G.: is this on your all's radar? GMGtalk 00:03, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
I don't see anything obviously wrong, what is missing? - Jmabel ! talk 00:28, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
@Jmabel: Hey, it works now, how'd you fix it? - Alexis Jazz ping plz 00:31, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
Apparently by looking at it? No idea what changed. - Jmabel ! talk 00:33, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
It looks ok now. Sometimes the thumbnailers seem to get stuck. :(   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 11:57, 28 September 2019 (UTC)

DIOS[edit]

run for the hills!

DIOS Y LIBERTAD Face-devil-grin.svg

(nope ik ben geen admin, maar ik heb wel het adminscript geladen) - Alexis Jazz ping plz 17:21, 7 October 2019 (UTC)

@GreenMeansGo: wanna know how to do this? - Alexis Jazz ping plz 17:24, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
Oh this is awesome.. I loaded it manually for the DR above, but now it's loaded permanently. Strange how that wasn't working before. Closing DRs is going to be a breeze now! - Alexis Jazz ping plz 17:38, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
@Alexis Jazz: Wauw, dat is geweldig. Did you already create a dedicated page for the script so others can copy it? I don't think that I'll be contributing in that area as I'm very busy with imports, but this looks amazing. 718smiley.svg --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 17:43, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
(replying in English for GMG, whom I'd happily trust with this) No, I haven't made a dedicated page for this. And I'm not sure I should. If you know common.js, you can figure it out now. Nothing is hidden. I'll make a screenshot with some instructions for how to use the thing - it's a bit odd. I had it working months ago (manually loaded though) without realizing it. I thought it was broken, but now I get it. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 17:48, 7 October 2019 (UTC)

Copied the above from "my" user talk page, not sure if you got the notification, but as I am too busy with uploads and research for Wikipedia maybe you could do something with the tools "Alexis Jazz" created. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 18:31, 10 October 2019 (UTC)

And apparently it's a very effective way of pissing off Pi, not sure why anyone would be interested in that, but you've been warned. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 18:43, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
  • Oh geez. I'm afraid that not only do I barely speak only one language, but I'm also mostly technologically inept. I'm not even entirely sure what I'm seeing here. (Also sorry for the delayed response. It's been a crazy two weeks IRL.) GMGtalk 00:42, 11 October 2019 (UTC)

WikiCon NA[edit]

Looks like I'm going to get to go to WikiCon NA again this year. For anybody who's gonna be there, feel free to shoot me an email or something and we can exchange numbers and meet up. GMGtalk 20:30, 11 October 2019 (UTC)

File:Woman smiling with Canadian flag in background.jpg[edit]

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A1Cafel (talk) 04:03, 13 October 2019 (UTC)

reply[edit]

I am about to leave a comment, at Commons:Administrators' noticeboard/User problems#When is it appropriate to request an interaction_ban..., apologizing for responding to your first comment, there, since it did not address my primary point.

I am going to overstrike my reply.

Thanks for your link to https://www.dimoc.mil/Submit-DoD-VI/Digital-VI-Toolkit-read-first/Create-a-VIRIN/ You are absolutely correct that it does seem to contradict Commons:VIRIN.

I sent the following email to the customer support email listed on that page.

I sent the following email to dvicustomerservice@defense.gov, with the subject "determining when images with a VIRIN can be freely re-used..."
I am a wikipedia volunteer, one of our most prolific. I've also uploaded a great many DoD images.
Can third party re-users rely on a VIRIN to determine whether an image can be freely re-used? One of my colleagues over at the wikimedia commons claimed a VIRIN cannot be relied on to determine whether an image was in the public domain. I pointed out that one of our manuals explicitly said
A VIRIN (Visual Information Record Identification Number) is a unique identifier assigned by the United States Department of Defense to official still photographs, motion picture footage, video recordings, and audio recordings made by USDOD personnel as part of their regular duties. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:VIRIN
Can I assume I don't need to repeat that images taken by US Federal employees, in performance of their duties, are in the public domain?
My colleague pointed to https://www.dimoc.mil/Submit-DoD-VI/Digital-VI-Toolkit-read-first/Create-a-VIRIN/, That page lists (1) uniformed employees; (2) civilian employees; (3) contract employees. He claimed that, while the works of uniformed and civilian employees would be public domain, photos taken "contract employees" probably wasn't, depending on what you meant by "contract employees", and the nature of their contract.
Lots of recent DoD images have lots of useful information embedded in their exif data - enough to confirm the date, photographer, and public domain status. Other images, including almost all older images, lack meaningful exif data. Images that have been edited by some popular image manipulation programs, like adobe illustrator, have their exif data wiped out by those programs. So, I can't stress how useful it would be if VIRIN could be used to confirm or refute whether an image could be freely re-used.
If the current standard can't be used to determine whether the image can be re-used, may I recommend that the DoD strongly consider adding this information, if the standard is ever modified?

I hope you think I paraphrased your position reasonably fairly.

WRT to your suggestion I use facebook to contact Jim O'Connell, and ask him to clarify the status of those images... Yeah, I can't do that, without breaking my very long-standing commitment to boycott facebook. You have no obligation to help me out, by contacting O'Connell, but, if you should undertake to do so, you'd earn a hearty thank you, from me.

Cheers! Geo Swan (talk) 00:46, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

No worries @Geo Swan:. Very few of us are lawyers here. So at some level we're mostly all just trying to make sense of often extremely complicated multi-jurisdictional copyright law, in a way that none of us were formally trained to do before we started getting involved in Commons. Nothing personal about it at all. I wish we could keep all the images, but I don't have any problem deleting my own uploads when someone raises a good point that I may have missed. I hope you hear back with further clarification, and please let me know if you do. GMGtalk 00:59, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

File:Brazilian democratic movement logo 2017.jpg[edit]

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  • This file is a copyright violation for the following reason: no arquivo da fonte apontada há o rodapé que diz: "2017 - PMDB - Partido do Movimento Democrático do Brasil - Todos os direitos reservados"
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Luan (talk) 15:06, 20 October 2019 (UTC)