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Regarding King Kirti Sri Rajasinha's Photograph

Good Day to You !!!
Hii INeverCry,Why did you delete this -> Commons:Deletion_requests/File:King_Kirti_Sri_Rajasinha.jpg Photograph,I don't think its fair reasonable,See this,this is its Uncropped Version ->
Thanks :) MediaJet talk 14:08, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

My reason was/is as follows: Painting is by author who died in 1975. No FoP in Sri Lanka (Commons:Fop#Sri_Lanka). INeverCry (talk) 18:01, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

Good Day to You !!!
This is ridiculous friend,then you should delete Photographs in below given pages also,this is not Practical nor fair :)
There are many more pages to list,these are few of them,JUST think,Is this Practical or Fair to delete Photographs like this,Thanks :) MediaJet talk 04:01, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

See w:User talk:Sphilbrick#OTRS question. INeverCry (talk) 04:26, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks :) MediaJet talk 04:34, 16 July 2013 (UTC)


Hello NeverCry, I would like to help in the review of licenses, unless I have the credentials to be Image Reviewers (autopatrol)--Veronidae (talk) 22:07, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

You'll have to put in a request at Commons:License review/requests. INeverCry (talk) 23:00, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
I think I explained wrong, I want is help here with these images, not those of Flickrs.--Veronidae (talk) 00:26, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
I'm not sure what you're asking. You should ask User:Alan en español. INeverCry (talk) 00:49, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

File:Petelinov most - Ljubljana Slovenia.JPG

Could you tell me what was the original uploader's license? It's now uploaded to en: and ru: locally, but instead of the license there' a red link to a deleted file. TIA, Retired electrician (talk) 06:58, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

{{self|cc-by-sa-3.0}}. INeverCry (talk) 15:18, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

Why? :(

why was i blocked on wikipedia, can you please tell me? :( i never did anything wrong, and this user called elockind blocked me!please reply on my talk page.BlueTropicalWave (talk) 00:36, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

You should stop the socking (abusing multiple accounts). It's a waste of time for you and for us. INeverCry (talk) 17:01, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

Someone else started a mass deletion request here; there was an email posted after that. Someone not using his real name (talk) 11:03, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

I've commented there. INeverCry (talk) 17:14, 18 July 2013 (UTC)


Hi INeverCry. Just curious, did you actually read my email before calling it "abusive" and blocking my email access (as well as blocking me from editing, and revoking my talk page access)? Thanks ~ DanielTom (talk) 17:52, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

I received an email from a fellow administrator stating that you were sending abusive emails to him. Had that been all, I may have asked for forwarding of the email/s, but I also took note of the SPI, and the globally locked alternate. All of this taken together made you look like a dangerous account/user. INeverCry (talk) 18:09, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
So you took his word by faith and, without reading my email, called it "abusive" and blocked my email access. Is that what you're saying? ~ DanielTom (talk) 18:24, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
I took several factors into consideration. INeverCry (talk) 18:34, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
You said my email was abusive, yet didn't read it. Was it Cirt who "reported" me, lied about my email, and asked you to block me (which you did)? ~ DanielTom (talk) 18:39, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
I would've found it very difficult to discount the claim of email abuse from any admin because adminship is a position of trust. Perhaps I should've asked for forwarding of the email/s; If something like this is brought to me again, I would do so, though I hope I don't see another situation like this, as I've never liked to see problems amongst editors. In any event, I would hope that this issue/problem with Cirt is in the past. I'm sure you'd both rather be doing many other things. INeverCry (talk) 19:01, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
I sent one very polite email to Cirt, which was directly relevant to Commons, and constituted no abuse. Cirt had nominated a picture uploaded by my brother for deletion, and claimed that his account was my "sock" (an argument which, besides being false, was also obviously invalid for that discussion). In my email, I pointed out—
"DiogoTome" is the account of my brother. You can tell by his name: Diogo Tomé. (We live in the same house, so of course the IPs should be the same.)
Cirt then decided to open a SPI investigation on Wikipedia, based on this information, but without ever mentioning it. (He knew my brother had sent weeks before an email to ArbCom with proof of his identity, including his ID, and that its "findings" that we edit from the same house were not only expected but also absolutely trivial, but never mentioned it.) [Incidentally, I first created my account (with my real name in it) in late 2012, but my brother created his account (with his email and also real name in it) in 2009.]
Now open your eyes, and see this. You see, Cirt also dishonestly requested that a SPI be open by email, just like he did with you. He works behind the scenes, and wants other people to do his dirty work for him. So, yes, you should not trust everything you hear from other admins, especially when they have a clear agenda against an editor. I do hope that next time you can behave like a responsible admin, and not accuse others of "abuse" without first confirming such serious accusations beforehand, and placing them on someone's block log forever. And why you revoked my talk page access, thus making it impossible for me to respond there (let alone appeal my block), was (and still is) completely beyond me. Have a nice day. ~ DanielTom (talk) 19:34, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

File:Junge Welt vs. Junge Gemeinde 1953.jpg

Ich halte es für einen ausgesprochen unfreundlichen Akt, dass dieses Bild nun nach so vielen Jahren gelöscht wurde. Es hatte große Bedeutung für die Vorgeschichte des 17. Juni 1953. Ich bitte um Wiederherstellung.--VH-Halle (talk) 09:07, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

@VH-Halle: schau mal meine Anmerkung unter User_talk:VH-Halle#File:Junge_Welt_vs._Junge_Gemeinde_1953.jpg
@INeverCry: I replied at his User-talk-page. --PigeonIP (talk) 09:24, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/File:Depression origin of suffering.jpg

You forgot the main file. --Shakko (talk) 11:41, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

✓ Done INeverCry (talk) 15:38, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

File:UDR Soldiers in South Armagh.jpg

Can you explain to me what the copyright violation was in relation to this file as I am the copyright owner and I uploaded it. In the interim I will reupload the file file with a fresh scan of the original. SonofSetanta (talk) 14:42, 20 July 2013 (UTC)

It was deleted because your authorship is in doubt. Can you upload a direct scan of the negative/s for this image and File:South Armagh.JPG? I can give you a day or so, but without that, the file will be deleted again per COM:PRP. INeverCry (talk) 16:31, 20 July 2013 (UTC)

This DR

Dear Admin INeverCry,

If possible, please close this DR as keep. I had nominated this image but forgot to log in as I explained in my final vote/decision. I changed my mind here...and I rarely do. Best Regards, --Leoboudv (talk) 05:11, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

  • Sometimes I forget to log in as in this case because I am forgetful but I never vandalise any articles or image files. Thank You, --Leoboudv (talk) 05:15, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
✓ Done INeverCry (talk) 05:26, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
  • Thank You, --Leoboudv (talk) 08:31, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
  • This is not your problem but this is just to let you know about the Rotatebot malfunction The bot operator is away so sending messages to his/her Common's talkpage won't resolve the issue. Best Regards, --Leoboudv (talk) 19:55, 21 July 2013 (UTC)


WTkll999K (talk · contributions · Move log · block log · uploadsblock user

Hi, dear INeverCry! There is a good reason to believe that WTkll999K = indefblocked vandal Shes192. First, he registered 1 days after the block Lq12. Secondly, this user uploads the files on related subjects, and suspected of copyright violations. Аnd finally, unregistered user added this image, and now this IP blocked in ru-wiki as the range Сan you block WTkll999K and Regards, — Stas1995 (talk) 21:37, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

✓ Done WTkll999K blocked, and soft-blocked for 3 months. INeverCry (talk) 03:35, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
Many thanks! — Stas1995 (talk) 09:59, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

File:Gilbert LaFreniere.jpg

We have the OTRS sorted on this image now, I think. See: Commons:OTRS/Noticeboard#File:Gilbert_LaFreniere.jpg. Is it easier to undelete or re-upload and have OTRS apply a ticket #? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Canoe1967 (talk • contribs) 14:47, July 22, 2013‎ (UTC)

I just need confirmation from an OTRS member that the ticket is now valid in order to restore it. An OTRS member could also post a request at COM:UDEL if I'm not around. INeverCry (talk) 02:40, 23 July 2013 (UTC)


Hello, You deleted this file, sorry I didn't provide enough copyright information. I can provide a proper approval. How can we restore the image? Thanks! Avneref (talk) 19:36, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

This is a copyvio of We would need to see a free license statement on this website, or permission for hosting the file on Commons needs to be sent by the author to COM:OTRS. INeverCry 19:42, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

Merci de votre confiance...

Et à bientôt sans doute,--Le Passant (talk) 15:29, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

Help Desk

Hi Dude! Plz check this problem and resolve it. I'm confused. Thanks --MehdiTalk 15:54, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

I'm seeing the new cropped version. INeverCry 16:51, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
Are u sure?! Bcuz i see this file with watermark! :| --MehdiTalk 23:43, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
Yeah, I see the cropped version displayed, and in the new thumbs. INeverCry 00:35, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
Thanks dear.--MehdiTalk 05:50, 25 July 2013 (UTC)


At least you didn't try to unblock me. Good luck with things. :) Ottava Rima (talk) 04:39, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

  • I never visited your talk page before, because I never had anything to complain about. Thank you for the administrative chores you do with such vigor and competence. Rybec (talk) 05:18, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
  • I'm sad to see you go (though I reluctantly have to agree with the desysop), but at least you'll be here on Commons and I can keep bugging you for stuff Face-smile.svg You did good work on the English Wikipedia, and it did not go unnoticed. --Rschen7754 09:50, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
  • That is very deleterious. I concur with your original unblock and I am so sick of how it operates there. But please, at least stay at Commons: we need you here. WorldTraveller101 17:37, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
Thanks all. INeverCry 01:18, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
  • {sigh} Well INeverCry, we all appreciate your work here. is like that. Penyulap 02:27, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

DR question

Do you have the actual date of publication? If you don't, I don't see a reason for you to delete the item.. please to restore the file until a valid reason is given. Thanks -Dzlinker (talk) 00:44, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

I deleted it per COM:PRP. We can't host this image without info showing that it's free. INeverCry 01:14, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

FIle issue

File:DennisBrowins userpage image.jpg looks like an improper modification of this (me) without proper credit/license and isn't used. Deletion is probably best. I keep the other on wikipedia only for my user page. The user name (User:Dennis Browin) might be bordering on impersonation as well. Dennis Brown - © 18:48, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

Image deleted, user blocked. INeverCry 19:11, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
    • On another note, what a mess. If you ever change your mind at some date in the future, I will be happy to nominate you. I won't labor it further, I think we both understand well enough. Dennis Brown - © 17:07, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
      • Thanks Dennis. I hope I'll see you around here a bit more, as I won't be on anytime soon. It's probably better this way; I'm plenty busy here, especially with my new checkuser work. INeverCry 17:20, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
        • I would support Dennis' nomination should you return, but I am very happy to see you have not given up on Commons. They need you here.--Amadscientist (talk) 19:49, 26 July 2013 (UTC)


for redirect somes files to the correct name, Thank you. — Mouh2jijel [Talk] 14:16, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
 Not done After looking through your editing history, I don't see any rename requests from you. Please use {{rename}} for now, until you've built up some experience with renaming files. I would suggest that you do 20 or more successful rename requests before asking for this right again. INeverCry 16:57, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
I asked more than 20 files to rename (eg:[1], [2])--— Mouh2jijel [Talk] 18:57, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
You didn't use edit summaries, so I wasn't able to see what moves you've requested. INeverCry 19:11, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

These Flickr images

I believe all these images by this uploader are unfree. When a flickr source is given, the license is NC or ARR. But she often does not give a flickr source sadly. Best Regards, --Leoboudv (talk) 00:45, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

I've tagged the Yann Pelcat images as no source. The rest of this user's uploads look suspect as well, especially File:Cadran solaire 1797.JPG, which has identical Yann Pelcat EXIF, but is labelled own work. I'm tired at the moment, but tomorrow I'll look into a mass DR or other appropriate action regarding this user's uploads. INeverCry 01:23, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
  • That's fine. I'm afraid the images from the Yann Pelcat account are likely unfree but Denniss has tagged several of them with no they will be deleted anyway. Kind Regards, --Leoboudv (talk) 23:39, 28 July 2013 (UTC)


There are requests at Commons:RfR that have been unanswered. WorldTraveller101 19:59, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

I'm sure another admin will address that soon. INeverCry 00:10, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

This File

Dear Admin INeverCry,

If you can fix the messy image description template, that would be nice. If not, don't worry about it. I tried my best but I couldn't fix it. The uploader must have done something strange to mess it up. Best Regards from Metro Vancouver, Canada, --Leoboudv (talk) 23:42, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

✓ Done INeverCry 00:08, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
  • Thanks. I never could figure out the problem here but you did. Kind Regards, --Leoboudv (talk) 02:14, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

File:David williams 2010 WSOP day1c 2.jpg

Hello INeverCry, how are you? Do you remember File:Robert Varkonyi.jpg? It was deleted due to missing informations, beacuse the original site is now offline ( Then I found the archived page, so you restored the file. We have the same problem with File:David williams 2010 WSOP day1c 2.jpg; if I remember well, It was uploaded from lasvegasvegas. Could you please check this file? (maybe was this one?). Thank you very much, --Delfort (talk) 20:02, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

It's a different file from a different source: INeverCry 20:10, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
Thank you very much for your quick answer. Is it possible to upload this image, even if the site is now offline, but with CC-BY-SA 3.0 license archived? Thank you again, --Delfort (talk) 09:54, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
I would say no. Both images are from the 1st day of the 2010 Main Event and look to be by the same photographer according to EXIF - Nikon D700/Zoom lense/etc. states "unless materials are under existing copyright and said materials are the property of their respective copyright holders." The author of both images seems to be Joe Giron, as his name is still in the blog image EXIF, and so his permission would be needed to host either of these images on Commons. INeverCry 16:34, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
Thank you very much! :) --Delfort (talk) 09:02, 30 July 2013 (UTC)


Hi INever, did you do a checkuser before bloking this account, here says that it isn't a sockpuppet. Regards!!! Ezarateesteban 22:36, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, this account is on the same range and was created within a short time of obvious Yair Mesa socks. The other factor in my block was that this account's only upload was a copyvio Medellin map, while Yair Mesa's MO is uploading Medellin-related copyvios. I trust your judgement though, so if you don't think this is a sock, let me know, or feel free to unblock and untag/delete the account's userpage. INeverCry 22:49, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
Update: I've unblocked the account, and left him a message about it. Thanks for bringing this to my attention. INeverCry 23:02, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
Thanks!!! Ezarateesteban 10:56, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

Autopatrol given

Thanks for your trust. Cordialement - Drongou (talk) 22:44, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

would you talk to User:Xiornik?

I am not that firm in what is needed to do here, but User:Xiornik regularly uploads modified pictures (with Upload Wizard, like File:Vincent van Gogh - Roses (Modified).tif), claims them as his own work and says they are cc-by-sa. Special:Contributions/Xiornik

I am not certain what to do here. The works are clearly not "his own", the derivate work/retouching is. I tried to correct it with File:Carl Jutz - Ducks on the Pond2 (Modified).tif, but I don't know, if this was what is commonly expected.

Thank you, --PigeonIP (talk) 07:08, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

another "fix" by De728631: [3] --PigeonIP (talk)
See Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Xiornik. INeverCry 16:07, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
Thank you. --PigeonIP (talk) 07:53, 3 August 2013 (UTC)


Merci beaucoup pour votre confiance. Cordialement. Mith (talk) 13:10, 3 August 2013 (UTC)


Can you also have a look at the other images uploaded by User:Verminclone a considerable number of them are sourced to LGA talkedits 22:45, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

I've asked the uploader about this. INeverCry 00:21, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your help with restoring a photo

File:المعجم الطبي الموحد1.JPG --Ashashyou (talk) 20:34, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

A cup of tea for you!

Meissen-teacup pinkrose01.jpg Face-smile.svg -- Steinsplitter (talk) 21:32, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
Face-smile.svg Danke. INeverCry 21:43, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

Something for your attention

Hi INeverCry,

I was patrolling the AbuseLog and came upon QBGP, an account for advertising (please set eh user page). Could you take a look, as I think it violates this policy. Best. WorldTraveller101 22:12, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

I deleted the userpage. We don't actually have a username policy here, only a proposed policy. I usually only block company named accounts if it's a full name and/or the account's edits are purely promotional. It looks like QBGP has also uploaded a good guitar pic, so I've left the account live for now. INeverCry 22:59, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

Trout fish farm in Kullu.jpg

I gave the correct license.It is owned by me.Why it was deleted?
Royroydeb (talk) 03:46, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

File:Trout Fishfarm in Kullu.jpg was deleted per COM:DW. The sign with the painting of the fish is itself copyrighted, and so a photo of it violates the copyright of the person/s who own the copyright of the sign. INeverCry 15:53, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

Original Barnstar Hires.png The Original Barnstar
Saw that you left on English Wikipedia, will miss you there. By the way, thanks for your hard work there. Jianhui67 (talk) 07:05, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
Face-smile.svg Thank you. INeverCry 23:05, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

delete first version

Hi INeverCry Could you please delete the first version of the picture File:Conrad Zellweger-Rechsteiner.jpg? I accidentally uploaded a picture of the wrong person (with the same name and almost same dates of living - that's why the mistake happend). Thanks a lot. --Kantonsbibliothek AR

✓ Done INeverCry 16:46, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

File:Alkmaar Zaanstreek.jpeg

Thank you for your quick actions but dit you considder the file logg? It was deleted a couple of days ago. --Natuur12 (talk) 06:00, 8 August 2013 (UTC)[4]

It may very well get deleted again, but it looks pretty simple to me. INeverCry 16:44, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

Oke, thank you for your time and information. --Natuur12 (talk) 21:33, 8 August 2013 (UTC)


Checkuser Barnstar Hires.png

Hi INeverCry. A barnstar for your enormous help in the checkuser area (i.e. finding spambots and so fort). Thanks!! Regards, Trijnsteltalk 16:33, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks Trijnstel, I'll go ahead and sit this on my userpage. I didn't realize we had a CU barnstar, otherwise I would've given you one already. As for the spambots, I'm doing my best to make sure the spammers don't get their money's worth out of XRumer here on Commons. Face-wink.svg INeverCry 17:51, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

undelete request

hi, could you please undelete this file, which you recently deleted: file:סמל המועצה אלפי מנשה.png I think i uploaded a corrected version of it and i remember adding all appropriate information regarding it. The version i uploaded was sent to me by the municipality itself. Please contact me if you have any questions. Best Regards --kippi70 (talk) 08:05, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

✓ Done INeverCry 15:52, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
Many thanks! can i ask you to rename the image to Alfei_Menashe_COA.png? (this way it is easier for other Wiki's to share it). Best Regards --kippi70 (talk) 16:50, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
You would have to discuss that with the uploader. Filemoving policy prohibits renames because of language. See Commons:File renaming#Which files should not be renamed? (#2). INeverCry 16:58, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
Hi again. I am the uploader (of the image supplied to me by the municipality)... but if you (as an admin.) say that a Hebrew file name is fine, i really don't mind. Best Regards --kippi70 (talk) 17:50, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
The original uploader is FireSky. You've overwritten the original upload, but he would still have to be consulted on a rename. INeverCry 17:57, 10 August 2013 (UTC)


Hello INeverCry! May I ask why my reworked version of this image ( was removed? Kind regards - 18:40, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

What reworked version are you referring to? I don't see any deleted revisions in the history of the above image. INeverCry 18:43, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
Sorry. This is the one that I am referring to -->
See my CSD tag of File:Brandy Norwood 2013.jpg. This is the only upload of a brand new Flickr acct, and appears to be a copyvio (Flickrwashing). INeverCry 19:12, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

Rollback Criteria

Hi, what is the rollback criteria on Commons? I have rollback rights on English Wikipedia and would also like to be one here. Jianhui67 Talk 05:52, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

See Commons:Rollback. I would generally want to see atleast 500+ edits, autopatrol (or a user trustworthy enough to qualify for autopatrol), and some work reverting spam and vandalism. INeverCry 06:07, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
Is 50 blatant reverts enough with warnings? My request on English Wikipedia was approved when I have 900+ edits. I too have reviewer rights there too. Jianhui67 Talk 10:48, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
50 would be good enough for me. INeverCry 16:12, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
Finding vandalism here is not as easy as in English Wikipedia. I can find a lot of vandalism edits there in 1 day. I can barely find one here in Commons. Jianhui67 Talk 09:57, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
Requests for this right on Commons are very rare too. I would suggest patrolling new pages in all namespaces, especially file/file talk. Now and then vandals pop up, like this one who made me do about 50 rollbacks in a half hour or so. INeverCry 15:43, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
In English Wikipedia, there are 4000+ rollbackers, excluding administrators. Here, there are only 200+. It is way easier to become a rollbacker there. But here, it is much harder. There is no {{subst:uw-vandalism1}} and {{subst:uw-delete1}} warning templates here. Mind if I create them here? Besides, Twinkle isn't available here. Undoing a lot of vandal's edits is going to be tedious. On English Wikipedia, I use a couple of anti-vandalism tools like Twinkle, rollback, STiki and Huggle. If you go back there now, you still have your rollback, reviewer, autopatrolled and file mover rights there (I don't want to seem like I'm forcing you to return). But we are unwilling that you desysopped there. You have been a very good contributor there. I'm sure that they will appreciate your efforts and what you did for Wikipedia. By the way, thanks for your idea on rollbacking. Jianhui67 Talk 17:58, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
Most of my dealings with vandals and vandalism here are at AN/V. Copyvio is the main issue here, while spam is another big issue. We have a considerable problem with spambots, which is what I spend alot of my time on. Vandal warning templates sound fine to me though. I have no plans of returning to any time soon, but I appreciate your kind words about my contribs there. INeverCry 18:47, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
Can you help me to check how many decent reverts I have now? Thanks. I'll create the vandal templates soon. All vandalism, deleting, disruptive, image spam, link spam etc from level 1 to 4. Some to 4im. Jianhui67 Talk 02:28, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

It looks like you've made a decent start. INeverCry 04:11, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

Created warning templates too. {{subst:uw-vandalism1}} to {{subst:uw-vandalism4im}}. Jianhui67 Talk 04:23, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
I must have misunderstood your intentions. I thought you were talking about creating 1 or 2 templates related to vandalism or disruptive editing in general on Commons. The whole set of Wikipedia templates you've created may be a problem. Commons doesn't deal with things in a level system as Wikipedia does. We don't usually warn a user more than once or twice for vandalism before blocking. Use of those templates you've created would have to be discussed first at COM:VP or in an RFC. INeverCry 05:09, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
Oh I did not realize at first about my mistake. I'm very sorry for what I did. I want to help Commons in creating those kind of warning templates, but not realizing that I was actually making a mistake. I actually copied and pasted everything from Wikipedia warning templates, forgetting to change them to Commons. But will I be allowed to keep those templates? Jianhui67 Talk 10:06, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
That's ok. It's mostly my fault for not being more clear. We already have the following vandalism templates for Commons:
You would probably be better of having the ones you created deleted using {{Speedy delete}}. Or you can just tell me to delete them here if it's ok with you. INeverCry 16:58, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
What if the edits did by the vandal is obvious vandalism and does not look like editing tests or delete content out of pages? Wouldn't those warning templates be useful? Jianhui67 Talk 23:08, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
"Test" is just the base name of the above set of templates. These can be used to warn users in any cases of vandalism. INeverCry 23:12, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
Oh sorry that I have created a mess. Can you delete the warning templates I created? But can I create a {{subst:test4im}}? Jianhui67 Talk 07:23, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
✓ Done No worries, the deletions were quick and easy. As for {{subst:test4im}}, since these are used widely, it may be best to discuss the need/use of the template at COM:VP before creating it. INeverCry 17:02, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Mass deletion


I would like to ask about Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by FireSky, you have deleted all user contributions, although some were OK, I would appreciate if you can restore those which are not fair use/non own work. Thanks! matanya talk 21:11, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

FireSky's response in that DR shows no knowledge or awareness of copyright policy. For this reason, and per my trust in the judgement of JuTa, I deleted all the nominated images per COM:PRP. If you know which, if any, of his uploads aren't copyvios, let me know and I'll restore them, or I would have no objection to you restoring any of these images if they're ok in your judgement. You might also ask JuTa, as he must've reviewed these images prior to nominating them. I may not be able to find the time to go thru and review such a large number of images very soon. INeverCry 21:26, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for your prompt response. I'll catch a talk with the user. Best matanya talk 22:38, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

My request


I've had an unanswered request for my autopatrol request. O brought up concerns, where I replied at his/her talk. It has been up for days and believe I qualify and would like it answered. Thanks. AeroAddict (Contact Me)(Main account) 00:39, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

You should give O atleast a day or two to respond and deal with the request. INeverCry 01:01, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
O just accepted it. Thank you. AeroAddict (Contact Me)(Main account) 01:32, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

deleting without replacing


If the reason for deleting is "several better alternatives" then it's not enough to send the bot to remove the file, and damaging the article by doing so. You need to choose one of these alternatives and replace the deleted file with it. Neukoln (talk) 03:26, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

I know. Since the DR was by an experienced admin like Leyo, I assumed he would have taken care of that before nominating the file for deletion. I'll ask him about it. INeverCry 03:46, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
I have a different interpretation of COM:D#Redundant/bad quality. --Leyo 09:21, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
Thank you both for the answer and the fix. Leyo, I still wonder what your interpretation of " will need to replace all instances where the image is used with the superior file. ... After all replacements have been made an admin will delete the image" would be?
Having said that, I wasn't aware of that policy, and what I wrote here was based on commonsense: You break it - you fix it. Neukoln (talk) 10:09, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
I am not sure if you got my statement right. IMO INeverCry failed to have the replacement done. Alternatively, he could have left out this DR for now. There is no need to close DRs only minutes after the 7-day period is over. --Leyo 11:44, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
So you feel it's right to do a DR for a replaceable image, but leave the replacing to be done by someone else? And then you blame me for closing a simple DR that was eligible to be closed? I closed that DR and others by you quickly because I trusted that you would have taken care of the needed replacement, and that I wouldn't have to come behind you and do your work for you. Don't worry though, I won't close another DR by you ever again. INeverCry 16:54, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
There is no reason to be in a huff. As noted above, this is the procedure as I understand it is described in COM:D#Redundant/bad quality.
If an admin closes a DR as deleted for quality (and not for legal) reasons, IMO (s)he needs to check the global usage of the file. What about a closure as to be deleted as soon as replaced globally or similar? --Leyo 17:34, 15 August 2013 (UTC) PS. I check the global usage of files I had nominated for quality reasons after the DR was closed as deleted. I am, however, not online 24/7.
I'll leave all of your DRs, and any other DRs for replaceable images alone from now on, so problem solved. INeverCry 17:48, 15 August 2013 (UTC)


Why you deleted this picture without giving prior alert to me? I clicked this picture and what type of copyright violation you found on this? Shobhit Gosain (talk) 05:10, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Here's the deletion rationale:
“{{copyvio|source=|Cropped image from that magazine, and I notice the uploader has has a fair few of the same already deleted.}}.”
As for notification, I only deleted the file myself. Another user tagged it for deletion and should've notified you. But he's only got 4 edits here, so he probably wasn't aware of that. INeverCry 05:19, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
The picture which you saw in the website is clicked by me only. How do I have to prove that I clicked that picture? Please tell me Shobhit Gosain (talk) 19:27, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
I see there's COM:OTRS permission for File:P. Narahari by SouLSteer.jpg. You should probably contact OTRS about the rest of these images, including the one we're talking about. INeverCry 19:43, 15 August 2013 (UTC)


Just a follow up on this, did you see the users reply to your message ? LGA talkedits 09:25, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for reminding me. I've deleted all the uploads from INeverCry 17:22, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
No problem. LGA talkedits 20:50, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

reg deleted file

Hi INeverCry, Some of my files have been deleted by you. I was not very sure why they were deleted. They were pictures taken by me. I am providing one of the link of the file deleted

19:40, 6 August 2013 INeverCry (talk | contribs) deleted page File:Agra visit 1.jpg (Copyright violation, see Commons:Licensing) (global usage; delinker log)

Can you please let me know what copyright violation was discovered.

thanks Prakash S — Preceding unsigned comment added by Prakash.saivasan (talk • contribs) 12:14, August 15, 2013‎ (UTC)

It looks like doubt as to copyright came from the fact that this image is web-resolution at 62kb with no COM:EXIF, while most of your other uploads are high-resolution shot with the FinePix HS30EXR. After looking at File:The tajmahal.jpg though, I've decided to restore File:Agra visit 1.jpg. INeverCry 19:29, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

The reason why you find these photos in web resolution is I uploaded it into some cloud storage and brought it back from there I also used some of the tools provided there to add some borders that I felt was nice. You can delete the Agra visit 1.jpg too, atleast i know why my photos were deleted, I will be careful next time.

The files are ok in my view, so I'll leave them be, but it is probably better to upload copies of images with the EXIF intact and as high-res as possible. INeverCry 19:39, 15 August 2013 (UTC)


Hi I'm going to leave from here and i want my files to be deleted .GhiathArodaki (talk) 18:47, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Deletion requests like these usually stay open for 1 week; if after that, there's no objections, the files can be deleted. INeverCry 21:12, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
and i want to delete my file that you have protected.GhiathArodaki (talk) 09:03, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
What's the file name? INeverCry 16:45, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
This One GhiathArodaki (talk) 17:25, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
I've unprotected it, but I don't want to see any more edit-warring on this file. INeverCry 19:11, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
First Thanks , Second i'm not the one who is edit warring , it was fry .GhiathArodaki (talk) 10:23, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
He wasn't edit-warring with himself. INeverCry 19:31, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
He was edit warring , and i was reverting his edits , i was protecting it , not making vandilism.GhiathArodaki (talk) 19:41, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

I'm sure you both felt you were in the right. In cases like this, it's better to take it to COM:AN/U right away rather than edit-warring. Otherwise the reverts end up going on and on, and nothing gets resolved. INeverCry 19:52, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

A request

You stated that Russavia has "done a good job" as a Crat. I have asked many people of anything positive or even neutral, and no one could find an example. A lot of people produced a lot of bad examples where he willfully misinterpreted policy to attack other users, to justify bad images, to override consensus, etc. Additionally, there is proof that Russavia asked Pricasso to paint Jimbo, and it happened while the two were in a dispute. It doesn't matter if Russavia actually thought he was doing the right thing - to the opposite, him thinking he was doing the right thing shows an inability to make good judgments. I would ask that you reconsider your support of him in light of the vast majority of the community having really strong feelings that directly contradict your own suppositions. Ottava Rima (talk) 14:46, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi Ottava. I voted keep for Russavia because he's always been highly active here on Commons, participating in RFCs, AN and other discussions, bot requests, closing RFAs, etc, and I think he's a plus for Commons. As for the image of Jimbo, I haven't seen Russavia say that he did it to mess with Jimbo, so anything on that head is conjecture. I figure that Jimbo and others probably wouldn't like that image/video regardless of who uploaded it. In any event, the way the voting is going, Russavia may lose the 'crat tools anyways. I intend to leave my vote as is because that's how I feel about Russavia, and so that's how my one little vote goes.

To make a comparison, I would support unblocking your account on so you could continue writing some of the best literary articles around, but I'm sure there would be no shortage of people who would vehemently oppose. While I'm on that topic, let me just say I especially liked your Leigh Hunt articles, which I did a little polishing of way back when. INeverCry 17:41, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

He has been active, which is the problem. His edits are either tons of automated edits that should be done by a bot and not on a user account or they are where he makes really bad decisions on deletion pages or similar things mostly in what appears to be either revenge against an individual or a philosophical view in an abstract sense. Look at the Poland Ball stuff where he has uploaded things that attack people ethnically or even sometimes as individuals. He is not congenial, and his edits are extremely aggressive against others. He will claim others be "mellow" when they already are and disguise his own inappropriate hostility. We need to be unified as a whole to ensure that such behavior is not tolerated in any form. Have you noticed that I am banned from en.wikipedia like he is but I didn't join with a political group to get power on another project and wage war against individuals like Jimbo. My ban at en.wikipedia is because I stood up against admin who were clearly abusing their powers, whereas Russavia's was for waging war on other users who had differing political view points.Ottava Rima (talk) 21:19, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
Perhaps I should've unblocked you at the same time I unblocked Malleus: then all hell would've really broken loose! Face-wink.svg INeverCry 21:43, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
Ched tried to do that and I was the first one to tell him to redo the block. I will only accept an unblock from ArbCom. Ottava Rima (talk) 01:58, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
As an aside - the Leigh Hunt stuff was never completed, and there is quite a bit of stuff scattered in subpages that should have been brought forward. I still have about 50 articles in various subpages on en.wikipedia that never got moved forward, and I don't really care either way. I only wrote the pages because of the problematic behavior on poem related matters (plagiarism, original research, outright nonsense, etc). Ottava Rima (talk) 21:25, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
That's alot of great hard work not to care about. I feel a certain satisfaction and pride looking at them, and I'm not even the author. INeverCry 21:43, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
Wikipedia is not a place that currently cares about having an ideal encyclopedia. The reason why is that there are those in power who care only about power, and they use power to harm other users. I could say that there are similar people on Commons who do the same, which is why I am so for this de-crat. Ottava Rima (talk) 01:58, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
Not even the worst admins over there can deny the impressiveness of articles like yours or Malleus's. I'm sure readers of Wikipedia care a whole lot more for those great articles than they ever could for any admin/arbcom drama; most people don't know or care about all the bullshit; they just want to read or write about their interests.

As for Russavia, my experience with him has been positive. I try to steer clear of drama and stick to my regular work as much as possible, so others may have seen things they didn't like that I wouldn't see, and have voted accordingly. I can only put my 1 vote in the way I see it. I often lean toward giving people a second chance. As it is, the voting is 57remove/42keep, so things aren't looking too good for Russavia. I'm just glad I'm not a steward or bureaucrat faced with the challenge of closing this and taking whatever action is called for. INeverCry 02:39, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

I so miss the days of being able to write and draw. I know just what the longing to fix those articles is like. <sigh> <pause> <sigh> I should get a self imposed block so I can work on my programming without getting dragged into all the mess. Penyulap 07:02, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
INeverCry, I think you underestimate how awful people can be. If you didn't know, the whole reason for my case was because of one admin was using socks to try and get me banned because he did not like that I was improving pages related to Jonathan Swift, an area he claimed even though he lacked actual expertise. That is what happens all over the place - fake experts who game the system and abuse it to take control. There is no real desire to improve the Wiki, only to own it for whatever reason. Ottava Rima (talk) 15:27, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
You're supposed to pick subjects that nobody else notices, like Russian writers other than Tolstoy, Dostoyevsky, and Chekhov. As for people, it's hard not to want to underestimate their awfulness. INeverCry 20:11, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

Administrator Barnstar Hires.png The Diligent Admin's barnstar
Let it be known that User:INeverCry was not sleeping on the job! :) Love, Kelvinsong talk 20:17, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
I was just resting my eyes. Face-wink.svg INeverCry 20:27, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
 ? I wasn't being sarcastic—I only see like two or three admins who ever do anything on this project, and you're one of them. I've been meaning to give this barnstar for a while now :) —Love, Kelvinsong talk 21:07, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
I know you weren't, and I definitely appreciate the barnstar; I just couldn't let a chance to use my father's favorite old cliché get away. INeverCry 21:17, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
It would make a cool epitaph too I think. That or 'here lays one very good-looking corpse'. Penyulap 07:02, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
Or "here sits one very good-looking corpse" in front of a computer 24/7. INeverCry 19:59, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
😂😂😂—Love, Kelvinsong talk 20:37, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
Centaur skeleton.jpg

24/7 ? You should get more exercise ! Not too much mind you but a little bit wouldn't hurt. Or maybe something standing behind your chair. (That song is not my favorite, but he is one of my favorite singer/dancers because he wasn't taken seriously as a singer because people stereotyped him as the martial arts champion he is/was before. So he said 'screw you guys, I'll force you to watch me ;)' and did so. I only really like one of his songs though, and it's not this one (which is still good though).) Penyulap 21:12, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

That's one of the perks of being a corpse: no need for exercise. INeverCry 21:26, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

Mysterious copyright violation

Care to comment at Commons:Village_pump#I_cant_get_details_of_why_my_image_was_deleted._Except_that_it_says_copy_right_violation_.5Bwhat_violation_.3F.5D? Thank you, Multichill (talk) 17:37, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. I've commented there. INeverCry 19:57, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

Re: Autopatrol given

Thank you, Heart-beat.gif Módis Ágnes VadszederkeMágika 21:49, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

Thank you from me too! — TintoMeches, 21:51, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi again

Hi , i want you to delete all of my files , because i don't want them in this wiki and i don't want them to be published , i'm leaving and i'm not letting the images with the hand of the users.GhiathArodaki (talk) 12:24, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

When the 1 week DR period is up, myself or another admin will close the DRs. INeverCry 18:27, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

License review check

Could you please do the license review for the following files (waiting for almost 2 months)
Thanks for the assist .. best regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by RussianTrooper (talk • contribs) 11:11, August 19, 2013‎ (UTC)

✓ Done INeverCry 18:26, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Deleted files

Hi, INeverCry. Please restore these deleted files. I'll copy them and you'll deleted them again. I just lost them. Thanks. --Interfase (talk) 15:34, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

I've restored them. Let me know when you've got copies. Otherwise I'll just delete them tonight or tomorrow morning. INeverCry 18:06, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
Done. --Interfase (talk) 20:03, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
Thanks. I've re-deleted them. INeverCry 20:06, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Man of Steel film page - my foto was deleted - please help

Hello - I am the photographer of the image of Allison Crowe that was @,_Lincoln_Center,_New_York_-_June_10,_2013.jpg

This is s photo I took of Allison Crowe, who has a cameo appearance in the film "Man of Steel", when Allison attended the World Premiers of "Man of Steel" in New York City, USA earlier this Summer.

I uploaded this image to Wikimedia Commons (using my account name Rimbaud22ca) and Wikipedia (where my account name is Adrian22) so that all people of the world can enjoy it and use it freely.

For some reason or reasons I do not understand - this image has been deleted. It has been deleted as a file somehow, and, from the page where it had been posted by someone @

Please, whoever can help restore this image, it is very much appreciated. I control/hold all rights to this inmage and freely grant the use of this image to people.

Thank you, Adrian du Plessis

The problem with this image is that in it she's standing next to a big Man of Steel poster. The prominence of the poster makes this a derivative work, which is a copyright violation of the owners/producers of Man of Steel. If you have a similar image where the poster can't be seen, you could upload that. INeverCry 04:04, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your prompt and clear reply. Warner Bros. has cleared our use of film images and set pics of Allison Crowe in connection with "Man of Steel". So, it is helpful for me to know what is any concern, then I can most easily address it in context. Thanks, again! Adrian

Film images and set pics are alot different than a promotional poster for the movie. I don't think Warner Bros would give anyone the right to use their actual posters, especially as Commons requires a free license that allows commercial use and derivatives. We would need COM:OTRS permission from Warner Bros themselves for the poster. INeverCry 16:28, 20 August 2013 (UTC)


Can I make only 25 reverts to apply for rollback? I had about 4-5 reverts already. Finding vandalism on Commons is rather hard. I only see IP users making good contributions, but not bad edits. Besides, I have rollback rights in 3 wikis (one of them is administrator), including English Wikipedia. Would that case for my rollback rights here, including that I have 25 reverts here? Jianhui67 Talk 13:02, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Rollback isn't an award or a status. If you can hardly find any vandalism, than you probably don't need rollback. INeverCry 17:30, 22 August 2013 (UTC)


Dear INeverCry. I understand that my picture has been chosen not to be deleted. May I ask when the red box will disappear from the image. I would like to start contributing my photographic nature library to wikimedia commons. I would prefer the nomination box to disappear, if not the image. Please give me guidance so I can start contributing my professional photographic library. Thank you Sincerely Kate — Preceding unsigned comment added by Katebranch (talk • contribs) 19:58, August 22, 2013‎ (UTC)

No decision has been made about the image yet. Did you nominate it for deletion? Do you want it deleted? Regarding photographs you wish to contribute, you are free to upload any photos you'd like at any time, as long as you are the copyright holder/author of the image/s. INeverCry 04:20, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Hello. Thank you for your promp response. Yes I would like it deleted. I own the image. I have started contributing and would prefer to remove the image. I would like my nature photographs to be contributed to my name by not my profile image. Not me personally. My husband photographed it and put in an ip request to remove it. I would like to contribute a photographic library of wattle and Australian native flowers. I am sorry for not understanding how commons works so I may not be requesting things appropriatley. Also- do I need to send my photographic CV to anyone, or image release contracts before adding my photographic images. I have taken all the photographic images that I would like to donate. Thank you Sincerly Kate

Russavia closure discussion

I mentioned you in a discussion. --Michaeldsuarez (talk) 13:24, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Cringe... Face-wink.svg INeverCry 17:29, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Priyadarshini Raje Scindia by Soulsteer, November 2012.jpg

I have even emailed to the permission department and after 5 days, there is no reply. Please show me some way. Shobhit Gosain (talk) 17:22, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

You can ask about it at COM:OTRS/N. They have a heavy workload, so it can take a while. INeverCry 17:27, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

About copyvios

Hello, all the photos you have nominated for deletion have been attributed under a license. The "unknown" goes to the author (ie. the photographer), which implies that he has died or is unknown. I have personally contacted (before the uploadings) the respective owners of the copyright (the sources) and they have personally accepted the uploading and the attribution and re-distribution of the photos. The owner of the book "Gerapetros and Gerapetrites" is Morfotiki Stegi Ierapetras (the original writer died in 1992) and the President of this Association (Morfotiki Stegi Ierapetras) has accepted to publish photos such as those of Mayors of Ierapetra. I also contacted the owner of the local newspaper "Anatoli" (1932-) and also accepted, gave permission to have photos of Lasithi Mps and former MPs here provided that the newspaper will be cited.

Other photos come from family archives from sons, daughters or grandsons of the deceased persons. I hope that this information is enough to keep the photos and not delete them. Thanks, --Kiario12 (talk) 19:20, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Please send an email to OTRS and explain your situation to them. If everything checks out, and the permissions you mention can be confirmed, the images can be kept. INeverCry 19:26, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
I did so, but no answer was received and the files were deleted in mass, including those who are licensed as they are works by me. --Kiario12 (talk) 00:49, 30 August 2013 (UTC)


Hey. This is iPhonehurricane95. I just wanted to say I don't want to sock anymore (and please don't take me hard and block this account). I want to ask you a question: why was it that if I am socking on Wikipedia I get blocked here as well? Please, don't take me hard, I will never sock again. I have changed since Rajesh Koothrappali is cooool was blocked. IPhonehurricane94 (talk) 07:02, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

This new uploader's Two images

What would you do about these 2 images by this new uploader? The first image is supposed to be 'own work' but would appear to be taken from a website somewhere. The second is sourced to a flickr account but the precise source is not given.

Do you know what to do as an Admin? This person is a new uploader and we want to assume good faith--which is a wikipedia idea--but good faith only goes so far on Commons. Thank You, --Leoboudv (talk) 00:27, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

I've tagged both as copyvios. INeverCry 00:53, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment: Yes. I did not know where the flickr sourced first image originally came from but I can see now that they were both copyvios sadly. One has to BITE with uploaders such as this person. Thank You, --Leoboudv (talk) 02:23, 25 August 2013 (UTC)


I wonder if this DR which was filed because of me could be speedily closed since I withdrew my objection?

Its your decision of course. Kind Regards, --Leoboudv (talk) 00:05, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

✓ Done INeverCry 17:37, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

broken redirect

Hi INeverCry, you've forgotten to delete the redirect, now the Bot deleted the target in it. --Typokorrektör (talk) 17:30, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

✓ Done INeverCry 17:35, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, I've found one more in the logs: [5]. --Typokorrektör (talk) 17:37, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. I've deleted that one too. If you see others, you can let me know or you can tag them with {{speedydelete|Broken redirect}}. INeverCry 17:41, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Ok. I'm looking across the log of the CommonsDelinker. This redirect target has been deleted by Túrelio: [6]. --Typokorrektör (talk) 17:42, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Deleted. INeverCry 17:44, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

What do you think of this? Wouldn't it also have to be deleted? It seems to be just another version. --Typokorrektör (talk) 17:55, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Deleted. INeverCry 18:05, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

I've found one more: [7].
The problem is also that there are many derivative files in the log of the CommonsDelinker, where the originals have been deleted. I've started a few deletion requests for them, but these are just a few files. There are many more. :( What do you think about an author's deletion request: File:37mm baton rounds.jpg, when there had already been a deletion discussion with the same reason and the file had been kept? I've requested deletion for the derivative file at Commons:Deletion requests/File:37mm plastic baton round.jpg, but perhaps it would be better to restore the deleted file? I don't know how to request restoration, so it can be discussed in the deletion request. It's not very logical to delete an original and keep the derivative of it. :) --Typokorrektör (talk) 18:19, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Deleted. The DR above will get the needed attention. Don't hesitate to file DRs when needed. Undeletions can be requested at COM:UDEL. INeverCry 18:25, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the information. I should add the previous deletion request, where the deleted file had been kept before. --Typokorrektör (talk) 18:33, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
The deletion request should be enough in this case. The participants and closing admin can decide what needs to be done, and restore the other file if needed. INeverCry 18:45, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
Ok, I leave it up to them. Is it normal to delete upon an author's request? I've seen one more of this, see here. What's best to do with it?
Here's one more broken redirect: [8] --Typokorrektör (talk) 18:58, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

And what do you think about this derivative, where you deleted the original because of missing or wrong(?) license? Don't know exactly, what you meant there. The derivative has a license. What shall be done with that? Seems to be another uploader, so the license seems to be wrong. --Typokorrektör (talk) 18:58, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

I've deleted the redirect and the bug image, which was taken from a website. As for the map, you might want to ask Inhakito, the author of both. Perhaps there was an error in the deleted one, or he updated/replaced it. Author requested deletions are usually done speedily within 7 days of upload, or by DR if older. INeverCry 19:14, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
Ok, thanks, that makes sense. I think I'll ask him about that.
Here are some more broken redirects to delete: File:Nicolea Bănicioiu.jpg, File:Josip Broz Tito Légion d'honneur.jpg (and talk page), File:0Блок и Чуковский 1921.JPG, File:夫子廟.jpg, where the bot hasn't removed the link target (out of Special:BrokenRedirects).
✓ Done INeverCry 19:47, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
Might there be any possibility to search directly for all those broken redirects, where the bot has removed the deleted link targets and another bot has placed a category about missing licenses afterwards without searching through the bot's log? Those aren't technically any redirects anymore, but file pages with such a category, but without files and without descriptions. Those pages have only #REDIRECT and such a category. --Typokorrektör (talk) 19:40, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
I've never done much work with redirects, so I don't know how to search directly. You could ask at COM:VP. INeverCry 19:47, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
Ok, I think I'll take the next example, and if I then get no idea, I'll ask there, if anyone else has one. :) --Typokorrektör (talk) 20:06, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Here's a template error with PD-Art ("template without parameter"), perhaps you have any idea how to fix that?: File:Carl Jutz Enten am Bach.jpg. --Typokorrektör (talk) 20:11, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Fixed. When you see an error like that, it means the underlying license that makes the work itself free is missing. In this case it was {{PD-old-70}}. INeverCry 20:18, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Deleted pictures

Hi, just saw that some of my pictures have been deleted ( Could you tell me what was the reason? The photos were placed in my gallery in Polish Wikipedia, same as other of my works. Now there is a couple of articles with no picture at all. Is there any way to undelete them?

Regards Piotr Tysarczyk — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pitert (talk • contribs) 13:00, August 26, 2013‎ (UTC)

These were deleted via Commons:Deletion requests/File:Czeslawlang.jpg, which was uncontested. You may want to ask MGA73 about this. I have no objection to these being restored if the deletion was incorrect. INeverCry 20:06, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Deleted pictures

Hi INeverCry, maybe you can help me understand how i can proceed with these pictures that you deleted yesterday:

These were pictures of paintings that I uploaded. The paintings were made by my uncle, but I own them, and since he´s been dead for more than 20 years now, I want to share them, and make them available for anyone to see and use. In fact, I uploaded them to include them in his wikipedia article Is there a Copyright violation? If so, can I upload them in any other way? Thanks, Mcamilamenendezm

Please send an email to OTRS and explain your situation to them. If everything checks out, they will restore the files for you. INeverCry 23:37, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

I will, thanks again --Mcamilamenendezm (talk) 00:14, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

To rename a page

Hi, how to rename Category:Brassica rapa subsp. campestris to Category:Brassica rapa subsp. oleifera, thanks. Minerv (talk) 14:39, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

See Commons:Rename a category. INeverCry 18:20, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

Thank you!

Commons barnstar.png The Commons Barnstar
The fastness of your reaction to consider requests is truly amazing! Please, kindly accept this star as a token of appreciation and encouragement to keep up the good work!--Knuth (talk) 15:58, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
Thanks. I'm glad I could help. INeverCry 18:21, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

Priyadarshini Raje Scindia by Soulsteer, November 2012.jpg

Still waiting for the OTRS, its been over 1 week. You deleted the picture without even letting me know. I don't think it was fair decision of deleting the picture. I clicked the picture for SouLSteer and anywhere you see it on the internet, I am the sole owner of that picture. I will send you an official mail if you want to see it. Please guide me how to bring that picture back? Shobhit Gosain (talk) 17:06, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

Have you asked about this at COM:OTRS/N? You may also want to ask an OTRS member directly. The OTRS process is widely used, and can take a couple weeks or even longer. As for your image and it's deletion, I think it was completely fair. My interest is both in protecting Commons and the copyright of Shobhit Gosain (if we didn't confirm identities in cases like this, anyone could claim to be a person and upload images by that person, whether it was really them or not). We just want to make sure everything is confirmed. Once you have OTRS permission, uploading images that've been published in Soulsteer will be easy and safe for Commons and re-users of the content, as well as the copyright holder. INeverCry 18:29, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
I have asked at COM:OTRS/N,please have a look: Shobhit Gosain (talk) 18:36, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
An OTRS member has signed your last post there, so the case has been noticed. Hopefully they'll get it handled soon. They're very busy. I'm sorry this is taking a while, but once an OTRS volunteer gets this processed, everything should go smoothly from there. INeverCry 18:47, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
Thanks man, lets see how it goes. Shobhit Gosain (talk) 19:22, 28 August 2013 (UTC)


Hi INeverCry! Thanks for the autopatrolling grant. Best regards, --Judesba (talk) 02:17, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

Thank you

Hello. Thank you very much for the autopatrolling grant :) I`ll do my best to not disappoint the trust. Best regards, AldraW (talk) 21:09, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for the autopatrolling grant. Best regards, --Avner (talk) 21:26, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

File:Internet Explorer 3 logo and wordmark.png


File:Internet Explorer 3 logo and wordmark.png is recently deleted for licensing reasons but since English Wikipedia has less restrictions, I think we could use it there. Could you please restore a copy of it and its description for me? Thanks.

Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 04:28, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

✓ Done I've temporarily restored it. INeverCry 04:43, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
Thanks. I am done copying.
Still, now that I am seeing this image I am surprised as to why it is deleted. The requester have said this image is not simple geometric shape; thus it must be deleted. Whoa! Who said all images that are not simple geometric shapes must be deleted? This image looks like a clear case of {{PD-textlogo}} to me. (See Commons:Threshold of originality.)
Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 16:57, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
P.S. Now this takes the cake: Checking the image revision history, I see the speedy deletion was made by User:Caffeyw. Suffice to say that I recently undid 20 of his edits involving tagging images for speedy deletion for being patently ineligible. Please see Commons:Help desk#CSD Removals. Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 17:02, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
I'll leave it live. INeverCry 17:16, 31 August 2013 (UTC)


Can I ask whether if you can check whether my reverts are okay or not? Thanks. Jianhui67 Talk 14:50, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Those look fine. You might want to get into patrolling new pages and images, and tagging out of COM:SCOPE pages and copyvio images. You'll find that there's alot more work to be done in these areas than in reverting vandalism. INeverCry 21:20, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
I just got some reverts today. Are they okay? Jianhui67 Talk 15:51, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
I've given you the rollback right. Make sure you're careful with it. Keep up the good work. INeverCry 21:22, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
Thank you very much! I'll make sure that I'll be careful with it. Jianhui67 Talk 01:55, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
By the way, what is the difference between patroller and autopatroller? They don't look much difference, except the actions of a autopatroller is automatically marked as patrolled and it requires much high criteria. Jianhui67 Talk 01:41, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
Autopatrol is given to users who have shown themselves to be trustworthy (with 500+ edits, few or no copyvio uploads, no blocks, etc) so that their edits are automatically marked as patrolled. This is by far the most common user right. Patroller is given to users who've demonstrated knowledge and experience of scope, vandalism, spam, etc, and gives them the ability to mark the edits of others (who're not autopatrolled) as patrolled. Only a couple hundred users have this right. I usually look for 1500 edits or more (the more the better), with speedy deletion tagging experience of out of scope pages, test pages, spam, etc. INeverCry 01:54, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
Oh then on 1 July 2013, due to me being new to Wikipedia, I uploaded File:Leonard Lim.jpg, and did not know that was a copyright violation, which was deleted by you later. Would that decrease my chance of getting autopatrol in the future? And is Huggle applicable here? I want to use Huggle to revert vandalism here. Jianhui67 Talk 02:13, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
A few deleted uploads is no big deal. No Huggle here, as there's not much need for it. The main area of cleanup work here is finding and tagging copyvio and out of scope images. Our big tool is Help:VisualFileChange.js. INeverCry 03:23, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

File:Slovene Rodnover kolovrat.png

Regarding this deletion: Commons:Deletion requests/File:Slovene Rodnover kolovrat.png, I don't understand why the file was proposed for deletion, since the original which I copied here on Commons was published on Slovene Wikipedia under a public domain license. --Wewelsburger (talk) 12:12, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

I've reversed my deletion and close. I would suggest you comment at Commons:Deletion requests/File:Slovene Rodnover kolovrat.png. I don't know much about this kind of logo, but my only question would be to make sure this wasn't drawn from a copyrighted source image. INeverCry 17:29, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
It was published as PD, but no information was given about the author of the logo (the tag was simply 'PD', not 'PD-self'). --Eleassar (t/p) 09:42, 1 September 2013 (UTC)


Hallo INC,

I think you know, if not, you do now:

Best regards, --PigeonIP (talk) 08:33, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. INeverCry 17:24, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

Upload question

Hello how are can I upload the picture form this site? . -- thak you :).Jobas (talk) 13:37, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

The image states "circa 1900", so it's too new for {{PD-old-70}} unless you can determine who the author was and when they died. INeverCry 16:51, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
i'm sorry, but you've made a mistake; that picture is clearly PD-1923 USA (where it was almost certainly taken). this was a prominent mormon family in the USA. this picture should be perfectly fine to upload @ commons. the date of death of the photographer is, in such cases, IRRELEVANT. Lx 121 (talk) 23:55, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
I appreciate the note. I don't know how that slipped my mind. In any case your note made me look deeper, and find the already-deleted copy (which is much higher-res than the one at the above link btw). INeverCry 01:39, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
@Jobas - Do not upload this file. This same image has been previously deleted on Commons: File:Joseph F. Smith family.png via deletion request: Commons:Deletion requests/File:Joseph F. Smith family.png. This deletion can be contested/discussed via COM:UDEL, but it shouldn't be re-uploaded. INeverCry 01:34, 5 September 2013 (UTC)


SLQ Project - This oral history is meant o be registered as Creative Commons. It's for a digital volunteer project called Pitch In! Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pippigolightly (talk • contribs) 19:00, September 4, 2013‎ (UTC)

This states that it's from the State Library of Queensland, and that the author is "Andrew Wilson et al." Andrew Wilson should contact COM:OTRS to give permission for the CC license. INeverCry 02:06, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

A beer for you!

Export hell seidel steiner.png Thanks for autopatrol. LGA talkedits 08:59, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

Help needed

Please see User talk:Trijnstel#CU II. Can you step in maybe? Trijnsteltalk 16:40, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

I blocked and tagged 2 more accounts. See INeverCry 18:08, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

Your en.wp talkpage

I suggest you to go to your English Wikipedia talkpage to see all the messages posted by various users. And I hope that you will reconsider going back to en.wp. If you don't want, it's completely okay. I know that you are busy in Commons, that's why you desysopped on en.wp. I know your burden that you are admin on 2 wikis in the past and you have a lot of work to do and your work is doubled. I too am working simulatenously on Wikipedia and Commons reverting vandalism. You are welcome anytime in en.wp if you want to return. Jianhui67 Talk 15:31, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

Well I hope that you will reply to my message soon. Thanks. Jianhui67 Talk 15:43, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
Thanks. I've looked at my talk a few times, and I appreciate the kind messages people have left for me, but I have no intention of editing over there any time soon. INeverCry 16:54, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
But why didn't you reply to their messages? Jianhui67 Talk 10:25, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
Will you please reply to my message? Jianhui67 Talk 02:30, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
Sorry, I hadn't noticed your continuation of this thread. I retired my account on this means no more editing, even on my talk. INeverCry 02:42, 6 September 2013 (UTC)


Please delete the middle versions in file history. JKadavoor Jee 06:14, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

INeverCry 16:18, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
Then please convert them to a DR (I don't know how it can). Otherwise they remain as a problem there. I posted it here because I don't want big publicity for such cases at AN. JKadavoor Jee 16:37, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
I decided to just delete them rather than opening back up a DR with 4 other entries. INeverCry 16:42, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
Thanks. JKadavoor Jee 16:52, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

Uploads by Messina

Hi INeverCry, what we do with Messinas uploads? Speedy deletion?, Regards--Steinsplitter (talk) 12:42, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

Not a good idea IMO. File:Bernardo Bellotto (Canaletto), Dresden, Neustadt, Marktplatz mit Rathaus.jpg for example seems to be properly licensed, etc. --Leyo 13:00, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
I agree with Leyo: some of the uploads seem valid. We'll have to take them on a case-by-case basis. INeverCry 16:16, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

A brownie for you!

Brownie transparent.png For keeping commons clean. You work hard so you should eat well. And what's nicer than a brownie? Natuur12 (talk) 15:19, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
A nice little surprise to wake up to. Thanks. Face-smile.svg INeverCry 16:38, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

Uploads by Marcgys

Hi INeverCry, I see you deleted a File:Harvey's Point - Lough Eske - County Donegal.jpg The image is my own work and is free for personal and commercial use. See external link to the image in raw state including additional information and metadata. Please advise if it can be undeleted or could further proof that it was taken by my. Thanks Marcgys (talk) 19:56, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

This was deleted because it was published on The site states copyright 2013 with no indication of a free license. You can email permission for this image to COM:OTRS from a address, or you can place a statement on the website that the image is under a Creative Commons license, such as CC-BY-SA 3.0. INeverCry 20:06, 8 September 2013 (UTC)


Hallo I Never Cry,

es geht um das Löschen zweier Bilder von mir, bei denen Probleme wegen des abgebildeten Nummernschildes aufgetaucht sind. Es handelt sich um diese Bilder: Pfarrgasse 1, Backhaus, Nordheim am Main.JPG und Pfarrgasse 1, Nordheim.JPG .

Vielen Dank im Vorraus -- Monandowitsch (talk) 20:57, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

I only speak English. You should ask a German-speaking admin like Leyo or Hedwig in Washington. INeverCry 21:26, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) Hope you don't mind me stalking. You can use Google to translate the German to English. Jianhui67 Talk 15:19, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
I know, but GT is a very clumsy way to carry on a conversation that would be butter to a native speaker. INeverCry 17:33, 11 September 2013 (UTC)


Hi! You told me that time that there is no Huggle here. Can I import my huggle.css script from to here to use Huggle? But I'm not sure how to import scripts. I'm also not sure whether to do this or not without discussing in the administrators' noticeboard. Jianhui67 Talk 16:04, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

I don't know either. INeverCry 21:25, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
And another thing, can I create a page called Commons:Rollback/Testing ground for those who got rollback and wanted to test rollback? Jianhui67 Talk 15:26, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
You'd probably have to ask about that at COM:VP. INeverCry 17:32, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
Already initiated my idea about a new rollback testing ground on COM:VP. Jianhui67 Talk 15:38, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

a favour

hello! would you be so kind to add the category:Ukrainian FOP cases in such cases? it is kind of important, and it is kind of impossible to monitor all the deletion requests (especially with WLM going around)... --アンタナナ 00:13, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

✓ Will do. INeverCry 00:33, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
thank you! --アンタナナ 00:48, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

The photo that wouldn't leave :-)

Here's the DR, but the file File:Zero_Mostel_-_movie_still-2.jpg is still very much with us. The Commons ghost? :-) We hope (talk) 17:25, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

Fastily restored it via COM:UDEL: INeverCry 17:30, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
Thanks, a relief to know we're not haunted. :-) We hope (talk) 17:38, 13 September 2013 (UTC)