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Category:Record labels[edit]

Hello, I try to structure the Category:record labels. I saw that previously you uploaded record sleeve photos and label images on en.wikipedia. Would you like to remove them to Commons to fill the categorys we have here and which I created today? Best regards, Waylon (talk) 21:34, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Naked is naked[edit]

The women ARE naked. Take at look at en:Naked#Topfree. Please revert yourself. Evrik (talk) 16:36, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

  • We have category topless. I wouldn't call people wearing pants "naked". (If they are, then how do we distinguish people who aren't wearing pants?) Perhaps we need some defintions/guidelines at our categories? Cheers, -- Infrogmation (talk) 17:12, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
Anyway, I welcome a discussion, but if someone is exposing something that would be seen in an office setting, I generally move them to the "refined" category. You're the first person to have taken issue with this. Evrik (talk) 21:40, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
Commons is not censored, and the point of categories is to help find and classify images, not to set up some form of quasi-censorship. That said, I don't object to subcats relevent to nudity. I agree that if some mundane category has an over representation of cheesecake pix, subcats can be useful and appropriate. However I think the distinction between toplessness and nudity is valid and useful, and already recognized in existing Commons categorization. I suggest keeping that distinction when you create new categories. You also seem to be doing some other stuff with changing categories that I'm not following the rationale for at present. I think bringing in a few more people for additional perspectives might be helpful. Thanks. Cheers, -- Infrogmation (talk) 02:04, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
FWIW, I'm with Infrogmation on this (cue wikipedians storming my house claiming I'm on a crusade against cheesecake or something. I'm not. I ate some chocolate cheesecake just last week.) Toplessness is different from nudity, or at least is generally considered that way. Nudity is the intersection of toplessness and bottomlessness, just the second one isn't usually bothered with since people like looking at tits. -mattbuck (Talk) 02:59, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Don't get me started on how Suicide Girls uses the commons to advertise ... I understand that the point of categories is to help find and classify images. FWIW, when I started refining the cats Category:Tattoos and Category:Body piercing they were overpopulated and not very useful. The subcats were meant solely to congregate pictures which might be NSFW, so please don't patronize me by reciting things like, "Commons is not censored." Someone should be able to look at Category:Armpits without having to worry about what might be there. I really don't want to have to quibble about what the definition of nudity is. When I started refining the subcats there was nothing there. If you want to create a whole set of subcats for topless pictures, that's okay with me. As for the edit you mentioned, I think that the sunglasses things got lost in the back and forth. I don't think we're on different sides here. Evrik (talk) 14:30, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Ummm, naked also covers partial nudity. "She was as naked from the waist up." BTW, If you look at the original description for File:Spiral in stretched lobe.jpg, you'll see that it is "Nude and captured". If you would like to create a 'topless' subcategory, be my guest. Evrik (talk) 13:11, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
    • I have created a good number of such cats. You can too-- it is easy. I'm not the only one who thinks the distinction between topless and naked can be useful, the distinction is already in use with many categorized image, and please don't pretend you cant tell the difference. I ask you to please observe the distinction in interest of more accurate and precise categorization. Thank you. -- Infrogmation (talk), who is currently naked from the neck up, if you don't count his eyeglasses.
  • I don't have a problem with your addition. :-) TTFN. Evrik (talk) 20:36, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Nice work on the Philadelphia stuff[edit]

I saw the subcats and the work you did today. Very nice. Evrik (talk) 16:08, 20 November 2008 (UTC)


Postcard Image[edit]

Thanks for giving me the Template:PD-US-no notice link. I am still fairly new to all this. I asked to be adopted by someone to help me along but they didn't respond. I guess I'll try another person. Also, your right about the 90's image. How do I delete it myself. I'm not up on all the coding, I'm learning as I go along. What would be some good links I can look at for coding and templates. It's a bit overwhelming right now trying to learn all of this without not knowing where to go. Thanks, --BoldSolitude (talk) 23:19, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Re: Bot generated garbage[edit]

I don't get it. Why would it be garbage ? Are you of the opinion that we should not have transfer histories for PD works or something ? TheDJ (talk) 01:35, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Miladps[edit]

Dear Infrogmation, I don't think Commons can trust any image by this user. How can this image be placed on Commons:

All this user is done has done is have a whole slew of images removed from this article history: [1] I believe this user scans images from books or articles and wonder if his entire contribution should be nominated for deletion. Regards, --Leoboudv (talk) 07:08, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

I think you're right. A blanket request for deletion for all of the user's uploads should be filed at Commons:Deletion requests. -- Infrogmation (talk) 06:44, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Category:Housing projects in New Orleans[edit]

I just deleted Category:Housing projects in New Orleans because I thought that I forgot to delete it. Then I noticed that you just restored it. I am not very keen on such redirects that give the impression to people (using HotCat) that it is a legitime cat name. My experience is that when you have a category that has a certain logic, very soon, you see popping up cat names using the same style, such as "Housing projects in xxx". Of course, feel free to restore if you disagree. --Foroa (talk) 17:42, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Categories that have been in use and suddenly disappear can confuse even experienced regular users like me, and I'm sure even more so some other Commons users. Category redirects can be useful navigational aids. -- Infrogmation (talk) 06:45, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
See Commons:Administrators' noticeboard#Deleted_categories still linked to and related discussion. -- Infrogmation (talk) 18:37, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
I have little time, but I replied there. --Foroa (talk) 19:08, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Request for your comment[edit]

Dear Sir or Madam, I am just curious: what happens with Miladps' images? When I look at them, I feel he can't own the copyright. Many of them are coloured drawings...probably by others. I believe its people like him who bring Commons into disrepute...because he knows the rules and still ignores them. When I upload flickr images, I always follow the rules. But when I see his images still on Commons, its really discouraging.

  • As an Aside, have you considered placing an Admin banner on your userpage? Until 1 month ago, I thought a 'sys op' was a computer systems operator, not an Admin. (no, I'm not kidding!) This seems to be a faint echo of the Professor vs Doctor problem; in North America (including Canada where I live), we call a University lecturer by the title 'Professor;' in contrast, in Europe, I believe they call them 'Doctor.' Its a strange idiosyncracy. Well anyway, with the banner, everything is clear. --Leoboudv (talk) 05:16, 6 December 2008 (UTC)


Corset[edit]

Hi
Just to let you know your corset image is now incorporated in my Rimbaud video
Voyelles
Many thanks Dwsolo (talk) 19:38, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Block[edit]

Maybe review this? Likely puppet of this one - there may be others, taking a look. Cheers --Herby talk thyme 08:31, 12 December 2008 (UTC)


File:KdVDeadSpermBank.JPG[edit]

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Building interiors[edit]

I'm hoping you can give me some guidance, or can direct me to a project page that will do so. Two of my photos of a museum lobby (Fort Worth Modern) were just deleted on the basis that buildings are copyrighted and that there is no freedom of panorama in the United States. I'm not particularly concerned about the particular images, but am extremely confused right now as to what images Commons does and doesn't want, and really don't want to waste my time uploading things that will simply be deleted. Clearly, we are allowing exteriors of recent buildings in the U.S. I have no idea why a museum lobby would be any different (since it is certainly "public" space in the sense that term is meant under copyright law). And I can't really imagine (for example) that if my house were new it would be a copyright issue to upload a photograph of my kitchen. Are you aware of any project page that will give me guidance on what is and is not acceptable? - Jmabel ! talk 00:53, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Not having heard from you, I've started a discussion at Commons:Village pump#Public space (clarification needed for U.S.). - Jmabel ! talk 21:37, 30 December 2008 (UTC)


File:6FlagsNOLAWhatsUpFloodline.jpg[edit]

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Unfortunately -- because the images do show useful information -- we can't ignore the presence of a copyrighted character (and sign design). =( Powers (talk) 01:09, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Comment[edit]

Kanonkas has placed an image by Milad on DR here at my request: [2]

Feel free to make a comment...if you wish. You know more about Miladps than I do but I don't trust his images. Sorry. --Leoboudv (talk) 20:52, 4 January 2009 (UTC)


File:KChaos07BillJeffersonHarryLeeFreezer.jpg[edit]

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sугсго 10:09, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

George W Bush image[edit]

I did not upload the image; I merely transferred it to Commons from the English Wikipedia. The fields were filled by the transfer tool and only used the information available on the enwp page. —Scott5114 [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 05:29, 10 January 2009 (UTC)


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MardiGrasQueen (talk) 06:05, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

File:Jean Lafitte.jpg[edit]

Hi, thanks for deleting this file. The original source (a US government website) did not mention any author or date, and I thought it dated back to when Lafitte was still alive or recently deceased. Cordially, Alchemica (talk) 12:23, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Google/ Yahoo maps linked to Decade templates[edit]

If you have firefox, install toolbar Operator.

Then visit

Click on the Google map button in the operator toolbar and it will take you to the place for the event. Click on Yahoo calendar and notice that it exports the correct date range, and that you can click on the link and it takes you back to the commons image. This demonstrates that Commons is now exporting visual historical events to semantic-web aware applications. Note that I fixed the problem with specifying states / provinces or whatever the appropriate local context is. It is all table driven now, so Champs de Lysees knows to display the decades for Paris and France.

The syntax and development is getting stable now, so I'd like to propose this for dry run application to some existing set of decade categories. I don't care where we start, so if you have a preference, let me know. Additions would be executed via pywikipedia bot. -J JMesserly (talk) 23:20, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Did you have a chance to think about the places by decade template? I don't think there is much point in me pressing on if the only other active member of the time project doesn't think that visitors get much benefit from looking up images this way. -J JMesserly (talk) 23:08, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
Ok. Fair warning- I am saddling up to be bold with this form of temporal category nav template. Bot runs, the works. I think I saw you wink. -J JMesserly (talk) 06:10, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

File:Fonotipia001.jpg[edit]

According to your request: Yes, i deleted because of the no license tag, the license was cc-by-sa-3.0, no original author was given and the problem was not fixed after 7 days. After reviewing the image, it seems acceptable to keep it, the only creative part of the image is the logo of Societa Italiana di Fonotopia, probably qualified for PD-old with unknown author/collective work. Can you care about the correct license? Then i will restore it and give new 7 days to fix everything. --Martin H. (talk) 17:22, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Agreed, sounds good. Thank you. -- Infrogmation (talk) 17:24, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Resolution[edit]

Hey. I'm not sure if you saw my reply on the 'pedia, but I think User:Aude explained what you were talking about. Cheers. AgnosticPreachersKid (talk) 22:56, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Looks good, thanks, -- Infrogmation (talk) 23:10, 3 February 2009 (UTC)


Category:Carelton College[edit]

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File:Graffiti for Arka Gdynia at ulica Jozefa Bema in Gdynia 2.jpg[edit]

Hello!

Please delete. I uploaded without correction contrast. Later I uploud better version. --Pomeranian (talk) 03:55, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

My request is already out-of-date. Please not to cancel! I improved. Thanks! --Pomeranian (talk) 15:22, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
Okay, thanks. -- Infrogmation (talk) 15:55, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Block evasion and further copy vios[edit]

Mysticshade (talk · contribs) who you blocked for copy vios is back with a new account, Greylightnings (talk · contribs) (proof). Although I cannot find File:Dublin Sunset7.jpg on her site, it is clearly marked Debbie Dunne photography. File:Leinester House Dublin.JPG is taken from here and already tagged for speedy deletion. I have not checked his other uploads, but I can imagine they are equally problematic. Thanks. O Fenian (talk) 11:15, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

  • Thank you. When majority of the uploader's images have been shown to be copyright violations, they loose the assumption of good faith for remaining unidentifed images. Other than one image which happened to be from a free licensed Flickr source, uploader's images have been deleted. Blocks have been extended to indefinite for both accounts here and on en:Wikipedia. -- Infrogmation (talk) 17:22, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
    • Thank you. I am 99.99% certain Dundean19 (talk · contribs) is the same editor, based on the identically named account's contributions so far on enwiki, targeting the Dublin and Dundee articles as Mysticshade did. O Fenian (talk) 13:51, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
      • Indeed - sorted :) --Herby talk thyme 13:57, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
        • I suspect that MellBourne (talk · contribs) also is a sockpuppet of Mysticshade considering his second and until now last upload (the other pic was a copyvio). -- Cecil (talk) 12:27, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
          • He was, Herbythyme just blocked him. O Fenian (talk) 12:33, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Info[edit]

Per this see also this :). Not sure about the uploads & whether you have any more background. Didn't see any others - cheers --Herby talk thyme 11:19, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Politesse[edit]

Je vous saurais gré de signer vos contributions sur ma page de discussion. Par ailleurs, il serait appréciable que vous vous donniez la peine de les motiver. Votre ton sentencieux et vos admonestations me paraissent en complet décalage par rapport à l'esprit de mes contributions qui ne visent qu'à un enrichissement du contenu du projet multilingue Wikipédia. L'étroitesse d'esprit qui règne sur les droits de copie sur les illustrations, procédant d'un a priori négatif -toute image non explicitement libre doit être supprimée- me semblent effroyablement préjudiciable à la qualité du projet. J'en suis navré et je trouve le comportement de chiens de garde de certains contributeurs qui se rengorgent d'être sysops particulièrement affligeant.

En vérité il existe quantité d'images dont les auteurs ne voient aucun inconvénient à ce que leur œuvre soit diffusée; seulement ils ne l'ont pas fait savoir dans les termes procéduriers qui sont les seuls que vous reconnaissiez - et non! le monde entier n'a pas encore été colonisé par la paranoïa judiciaire étatsunienne-. En ce qui concerne le portrait de Tibor Sekelj, il m'est opposé qu'une image retravaillée ne devient pas libre. Je soutiens que j'ai fait une œuvre personnelle en interprétant une image dont il est dit nulle part qu'elle n'est protégée par un quelconque droit d'auteur. D'ailleurs il ne figure aucune information sur le droit d'auteur concernant l'image présentée comme étant la source putative du document que j'ai publiée. En fait je suis parti d'une autre source trouvée sur un autre site dont l'administrateur n'a pas répondu à mes demandes -peut-être est-il mort-. Il me semblerait plus judicieux de considérer que tout document non accompagné d'une notice explicite précisant les restrictions sur son droit d'utilisation puisse être utilisé librement, plutôt que le contraire.

Je vous souhaite bonne réception de mon message et j'espère que vous le comprendrez aussi aisément que je puis comprendre les messages que vous m'envoyez dans un idiome qui m'est étranger. --Arno Lagrange 23:32, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

shorpy[edit]

Are you a shorpy.com addict as well? ;-) AgnosticPreachersKid (talk) 18:46, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

I've got them bookmarked. Lots of interesting stuff! If they used as many pix of my hometown as they do of yours, I'd be seriously addicted! Cheers, -- Infrogmation (talk) 18:53, 1 March 2009 (UTC)


Nelly Baumann, reverted[edit]

Hi, yesterday I have asked, what happened to Nelly Baumann, but one of "Not on my commons" mattbuck's buddies has reverted it: [3]. So I ask you. Regards Mutter Erde 78.51.9.139 16:58, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Hey, what was wrong with the Nelly Bauman pic? Regards Regards Mutter Erde 92.230.224.216 11:46, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
Looking at deleted history, image was of female genitalia. I was not involved in either upload nor deletion in any way. The deleting admin's comment indeed gives little information. List on Commons:Undeletion requests if you think appropriate. Cheers, -- Infrogmation (talk) 14:14, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Have a look please[edit]

Please do me a favour and review the deleted files File:O-Connell-Bridge-River-Liffy-Dublin-Ireland.jpg, File:O'ConnellBridge lights.jpg and File:Dublin Sunset.jpg all of which you deleted and see if either are the same as the newly uploaded image File:Ireland Dublin Night.JPG. If so it might be the same user blocked user back again using a sockpuppet or it may actually be a valid upload. I recall not being able to find a URL for either of these though I did find several URLs for many of the other copyvios Mysticshade had uploaded. Thanks in advance. If you don't mind, please leave me a talkback notice as I don't add editor's talk pages to my watchlist too often these days. Ww2censor (talk) 19:35, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Moved deletion request[edit]

As proposed 3 days ago, the deletion request Commons:Deletion requests/File:AN Liana K 1.jpg has been merged into Commons:Deletion requests/Images of costumes tagged as copyvios by AnimeFan, wich is a mass deletion request of images under the same terms (costumed people being or not copyright violations). If you haven't done so, you should state your opinions there Belgrano (talk) 16:43, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

File:Activestills3.jpg[edit]

Hello,

I didn't understand that the issue were unrelated. I feel that if a DR result is kept, it is not proper to delete an image which is part of this DR without another DR. To me, the NPD procedure is not equivalent to a DR, as the decision and discussion is made by an admin alone. Further, an undeletion request is also different, as the image cannot be seen during the discussion by non-admins. Regards, Yann (talk) 08:24, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Categorization[edit]

Thanks for your comment on my talk page. On the local projects I work on, each editor can make their own decisions on what and how they wish to contribute to the project. If that is not the case on Commons, and consensus is that an uncategorised file is of less use than no file ( a perfectly reasonable viewpoint, but one which I don't share), then - with no pettiness or malice intended - I'll stick to uploading images to en.wikipedia, and leave the task of uploading to Commons to those who wish to deal with the grunt work. GeeJo (t)(c) • 19:28, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/File:PikiWiki Israel 1465 stone fence גדר אבן ירושלמית.JPG[edit]

After what you wrote, I want to cancel my deletion request of this picture and of the other pictures which come with it. Can I just remove the templates from the files's page, or there is other thing that should be done? thanks, Netanel h (talk) 10:15, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Yes, you may withdraw deletion requests you've made if you wish. If there has been no other support for deletion, yes you may just remove the deletion template from the image page, and on the deletion request listing add a comment saying something like "Deletion request withdrawn by nominator". Cheers, -- Infrogmation (talk) 14:14, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Category renaming nom[edit]

FYI: Commons:Categories for discussion/Current requests/2009/03/Category:SXSW 2006.--Chaser (talk) 12:44, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Blatantly fraudulent?[edit]

You used rather strong words in closing Commons:Deletion requests/File:Abdali-I.jpg - how about assuming good faith? /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 07:02, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

  • You're right. I should have said "false" rather than "fraudulent". I shouldn't have implied intent to deceive. (Whether by some motive, confusion, or mistake, the information presented was wrong, and that its wrong should be the relevent point.) I'll change "fraudulent" to "false". Thank you. -- Infrogmation (talk) 11:46, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

"the Maryland"[edit]

Would you be willing to nominate Category:Water towers in the Maryland for renaming to Category:Water towers in Maryland? I'm assuming that it's an error, so I don't want to have to bother with CFD :-) Nyttend (talk) 04:59, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Simple typo, no need to nominate. I took care of it, thanks for spotting that. Cheers, -- Infrogmation (talk) 05:02, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
Didn't realise until after I left the comment that you're an administrator. Nyttend (talk) 05:03, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

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