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Based on the previous discussion at Commons:Deletion requests/File:Tunyuan Trailhead.jpg. So What do you think of this image: "File:楊梅伯公山公園入口.jpg"?--Kai3952 (talk) 15:26, 4 March 2018 (UTC)

@Kai3952: The situation is unclear. Is that brick object just there to hold up the artwork, or is it one side of a building a person may enter?   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 02:20, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
I'm confused by what you're saying. Why haven't you seen it?--Kai3952 (talk) 03:27, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
@Kai3952: If it's the side of a building that a person may enter, we can keep the photo of it. If it's just a work of art mounted on a brick wall that is not a part of a building, we cannot keep the photo of it unless it can be shown to be PD for some reason.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 03:39, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
What I meant was that, for me, the case of "File:楊梅伯公山公園入口.jpg" is the same as that of "File:Tunyuan Trailhead.jpg". Do not you think so?--Kai3952 (talk) 11:37, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
@Kai3952: I do not think so.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 12:25, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
Can you say a little more about how you see things?--Kai3952 (talk) 13:11, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
@Kai3952: I think it is part of a building.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 13:44, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
Why?--Kai3952 (talk) 15:20, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
@Kai3952: It appears to be attached, to have integrated electric lighting, and to have stairs leading around the side.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 15:28, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
But what I see is a image of the entrance sign. That's why I think it's the same case as "File:Tunyuan Trailhead.jpg".--Kai3952 (talk) 16:37, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
I am waiting for your reply. If you can not answer my question, then I would think that it is unreasonable for you nominated to delete "File:Tunyuan Trailhead.jpg".--Kai3952 (talk) 11:55, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
@Srittau: What's your opinion?   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 12:42, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
I'm certainly no expert on the matter, but I'd err on the side of deletion per the PRP here. I agree with Jeff that this seems to be attached to a building, but I wouldn't necessarily assume it to become architecture because of that, especially since it seems to have a frame of some kind. But even without the frame, we'd need to need more about Taiwanese (case) law to be sure that this does fall under the FOP exception. Sebari – aka Srittau (talk) 13:32, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
@Srittau: Thank you. One of you can nominate it if you want.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 16:46, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
@Srittau, Jeff G.: The question is: How do you think about "COM:FOP#Taiwan"?--Kai3952 (talk) 13:16, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

Jeff G, why don't you want to answer me. What is the difference between "File:Tunyuan Trailhead.jpg" and "File:楊梅伯公山公園入口.jpg"?--Kai3952 (talk) 13:47, 13 March 2018 (UTC)

@Kai3952: Do you want File:楊梅伯公山公園入口.jpg deleted, too?   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 13:51, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
I didn't say that I want to delete it. But you didn't answer my question.--Kai3952 (talk) 14:24, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
@Kai3952: There is little difference. You have talked me into filing Commons:Deletion requests/File:楊梅伯公山公園入口.jpg.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 14:50, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
No, that's what you said. My original problem was: "Based on the previous discussion at Commons:Deletion requests/File:Tunyuan Trailhead.jpg. So What do you think of this image File:楊梅伯公山公園入口.jpg?" I didn't see I have said I want to nominate File:楊梅伯公山公園入口.jpg to COM:DR. Incidentally, you never answered my question. I just want to know what you think about "COM:FOP#Taiwan"..--Kai3952 (talk) 10:38, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
@Kai3952: It documents the current state of the law in Taiwan. Members of the government there have decided how they wish to balance the rights of the creators against the rights of the users and reusers. I respect the rule of law, thus, I respect that decision and our implementation of it.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 12:37, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
The problem is not here. Look at what you say in this edit. You have said that "not upload such works". So my real problem is: I don't know how to follow "COM:FOP#Taiwan", because I don't know how to judge and distinguish. But you know how to do that. This is the reason I will ask you.--Kai3952 (talk) 01:20, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
@Kai3952: I meant "You should not upload such works."   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 02:11, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
I know, but my problem is not here. My problem is: If I can't to judge and distinguish works, I still make the same mistake over and over. In other words, because I don't know what is "the freedom of panorama", I may accidentally upload such a work. Therefore, you said "not upload such works" is not helpful for me. I am very helpless now. So what do you want me to do?--Kai3952 (talk) 03:40, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
@Kai3952: I don't know, find something else to upload? Attack a backlog?   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 03:50, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
How do you know at Commons:Deletion requests/File:Tunyuan Trailhead.jpg that the reason for deleting is "COM:FOP#Taiwan"?--Kai3952 (talk) 04:48, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
@Kai3952: It is an artistic work created in Taiwan. @Teofilo: wrote "Reproductions of artistic works are thus only for non-commercial purposes; therefore, such photographs are not free enough for Commons : X mark.svg Not OK" in this edit, and it has stood the test of time for 9+ years.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 13:27, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
This answer is not very clear. In some buildings, itself is a artistic work, for example Xincheng Taroko Station, Zhinan Temple, National Palace Museum, Chiang Kai-shek Memorial Hall, and Wufeng Lin Family Mansion and Garden. In the case that the artistic work does existing, and I don't understand why that doesn't apply to COM:FOP#Taiwan.--Kai3952 (talk) 14:54, 17 March 2018 (UTC)


@Jeff_G.Thank you for your answer but i don't understand very well the reason because an old engraving made centuries ago is against the copyrithg. Ortolana.jpg. Thank you (please, be patient, I am learning) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Juan Hispalense (talk • contribs) 11:10, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

@Juan Hispalense: You answered none of my questions at Commons:Undeletion requests/Archive/2018-03#File:ortolana.jpg. Please answer them here.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 14:56, 13 March 2018 (UTC)

@Jeff_G. Thank I declared that i have find this picture in internet when i upload the imagine but It´s clearly an old engraving made centuries ago. Obviously I can not prove it, but it is the classic image of a saint in a seventeenth-century hagiographic book. This is verey very vlear for me. Them i think that the opcion "I found it in internet" must be eliminated. --Juan Hispalense (talk) 16:24, 13 March 2018 (UTC)

@Juan Hispalense: Exactly where "in internet" did you find it?   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 13:31, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
@Jeff G.: --Juan Hispalense (talk) 16:41, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
@Juan Hispalense: Thank you. Do you mean I asked the blogger for the source of that image.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 13:48, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
@Jeff G.: No, i dónt, Jeff. This one: . Thank you very much for your interest — Preceding unsigned comment added by Juan Hispalense (talk • contribs) 16:02, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
@Juan Hispalense: You're welcome.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 16:33, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

File:NateKFarm.jpg Deletion[edit]

Best I can figure the file name no longer exists because it was deleted (by a user named Túrelio). This is the image, which I just uploaded with a new name:

Nate Kleinman with 'Coral' sorghum from Malakal, South Sudan (Elmer, NJ, 2014).

It was taken by my friend Katherine Ramos, who originally uploaded it to Facebook on October 5, 2014.

I want to go about all this properly. I have a great deal of respect for Wikipedia/Wikimedia and all of you who keep it up. Thank you for your work. NathanKleinman (talk) 07:10, 14 March 2018 (UTC)

@NathanKleinman: Thank you. I now see that this photo, formerly uploaded by RamosK18 as File:NateKFarm.jpg and now uploaded by you as File:NatewithCoralSorghumfromMalakalSouthSudan.jpg, appears at as displayed by, which says about it "Top photo courtesy of Experimental Farm Network." Neither website indicates a free license. I see that you uploaded it with the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 4.0 International license. I can't find your OTRS ticket, what is it's number?   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 13:22, 14 March 2018 (UTC)

Hi, thanks. I don't know what the OTRS ticket number was (nor really what OTRS is). I gave it the CC Attribution-Share Alike 4.0 license because that's what Katherine did when she originally uploaded it. It appears that Katt still needs to respond to an email about OTRS? I'm not sure she ever received it. Since she uploaded it with that license and is the original author of the work, does she need to take any further action to make sure it isn't deleted again? 02:34, 17 March 2018 (UTC)NathanKleinman —Preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 01:04, 17 March 2018 (UTC)

@Túrelio, Jameslwoodward, Yann: Would you or another Admin please check who added "{{OTRS pending|year=2018|month=March|day=14}}" to dup File:NatewithCoralSorghumfromMalakalSouthSudan.jpg, possibly why, and whether it is even necessary on File:NateKFarm.jpg given the travel through Facebook and Commons:Undeletion requests/Archive/2018-03#File:NateKFarm.jpg?   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 11:05, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
Hi, The uploader, i.e. NathanKleinman, did it. Regards, Yann (talk) 11:52, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
@Yann: Thank you. Do you think we need OTRS permission for this image?   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 13:15, 17 March 2018 (UTC)

restoring an image[edit]

Hello Jeff

I’m writing regarding the image

It is a scan of one of many pictures of my father (now deceased), taken many years ago, by a professional photographer, to his request.

All the pictures are in my possession and I own all rights to the image.

When I could not upload the file I asked a friend, then knows a bit more than I do about Wikipedia, but the image was removed once again.

Therefore, I kindly request that the Image will be restored to the page:

Thanks a lot — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yoramjacobson (talk • contribs) 19:50, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

@Yoramjacobson: The best place to discuss the files is at Commons:Deletion requests/File:יורםיעקבסון19442017.jpg.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 23:53, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

@Jeff G.:
I wrote it there as well, but unfortunately  there is no response.

Yoramjacobson (talk) 12:23, 16 March 2018 (UTC)


Hi, what kink of my files you want do delete? :) —Preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 18:01, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

What files?   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 10:08, 17 March 2018 (UTC)


In the WP article on TIFF, it says TIFF is not supported by many browsers, so I decided to check. I uploaded a TIF to Facebook; didn't work at all. Then to flickr; uploaded OK, but image looked out of focus. Then tried commons, got message that image did not pass image verification etc. Can't give you the exact message, but that was the drift of it. Any idea what gives?

Sardaka (talk) 08:28, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

Just did a test and had no issues but not sure what software you used. File:2018 Queens Baton Relay on Tarcutta St, Wagga Wagga ( MG 0279).tif is saved as uncompressed (Photoshop gives a selection list; None, LZW, ZIP and JPG with quality selection), interleaved (RGBRGB) (there is a "Per Channel (RRGGBB) option but not used it), IBM PC (Macintosh is also available) and layer compression as RLE (ZIP, Discard also available). Bidgee (talk) 09:18, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
@Sardaka: What software and settings did you use to make it, or where exactly did you get it?   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 11:53, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
Took the shot on Nikon D810, did not process it at all, just tried to upload it without having done anything to it. Results were as described.

Sardaka (talk) 06:47, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

@Sardaka: It appears from Category:Taken with Nikon D810 that many uploads of photos from that model are in .jpg (JPEG) format, have you tried that? Can you convert to .jpg or .png with software like GIMP or Photoshop?   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 07:55, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

Category:Space - Places[edit]

Hi Jeff G. See Category:Space [1]. And Places [2] ??? --JMCC1 (talk) 14:24, 20 March 2018 (UTC)


Hey, Can you look at this and the rest of the person's logo uploads? I think they are ok but want a 2nd opinion. Artix Kreiger (talk) 14:27, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

?Artix Kreiger (talk) 22:17, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
@Artix Kreiger: They may be under TOO, if not we would need OTRS permission. However, what is TOO in Spain?   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 22:24, 21 March 2018 (UTC)