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Welcome to Wikimedia Commons, JoKalliauer!
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File:Medellin Kartell.svg[edit]

Hallo JoKalliauer,

vielen Dank für die Vektorisierung. Ich war lange offline in der Wikipedia und habe es erst jetzt gesehen.

Grüße, Kopiersperre (talk) 09:55, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

Kein Problem  — Johannes Kalliauer - Talk | Contributions 11:33, 1 March 2017 (UTC)


Re:Group rename[edit]

Ok, but it is necessary to delete the redirects. You should use the template {{rename}} in each file to know what the new name you want. Example: in File:MDKQ anim3.svg add {{rename|1=|<new name>|2=2|3=<reason>|user=}} and fill in the parameters. I think an admin could do it faster, because there are many files and redirects must be deleted. Jarould [talk] 06:20, 29 July 2017 (UTC)

KPÖ[edit]

Die KPÖ würd' ich im Wahldiagramm auch für 2017 eintragen, KPÖplus ist schon ziemlich eindeutig eine Nachfolgepartei. Grüße, --BuschBohne (talk) 19:14, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

@BuschBohne: Ich hab leider noch keine Daten für die KPÖplus, kannst du sie mir bitte verlinken?  — Johannes Kalliauer - Talk | Contributions 19:25, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

Endergebnis ohne Briefwahl hat sie bei 0,7. --BuschBohne (talk) 19:28, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
Vermutlich wäre es auch sinnvoll, bei 2013 einen Punkt für's Team Stronach anzuzeigen. Und statt "Grune" soll's wohl "Grüne" heißen. Eventuell auch NEOS/LiF auf zwei Farben aufspalten. --BuschBohne (talk) 20:55, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
Grüne werde ich ausbessern. Daten werde ich aktualisieren sobald die Endergebnisse da sind. Weitere Parteien hinzufügen muss ich schauen wie das geht, es ist mein erstes Gnuplot-Diagramm. NEOS/LIF mag ich der Übersichtlichkeit nicht aufspalten. Ob ich Stronach bzw BZÖ hinzufüge werde ich noch schauen, ansonsten kannst du einfach ein neues Diagramm machen. Quellcode ist ohnehin vorhanden.  — Johannes Kalliauer - Talk | Contributions 21:18, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
Es reicht wenn du den Quellcode auf File:Wahlergebnisse_aut2017.svg änderst ich erstell dann die Grafik mit den geänderten Quellcode neu.  — Johannes Kalliauer - Talk | Contributions 21:19, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
@BuschBohne: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/66/Wahlergebnisse_aut2017Full.svg  — Johannes Kalliauer - Talk | Contributions 11:02, 21 October 2017 (UTC)
Achtung: Die 4%-Hürde wurde erstmals 1994 angewandt, zuvor war nur der Gewinn eines Grundmandates maßgeblich. --BuschBohne (talk) 14:10, 21 October 2017 (UTC)

Könntest du vielleicht noch zwei Diagramme erstellen, nur mit den Werten von jeweils SPÖ und FPÖ um diese zwei Diagramme zu ersetzen? --BuschBohne (talk) 16:22, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

Vielleicht wäre es für diese Diagramme besser, die Y-Achse bei 0 starten zu lassen. --BuschBohne (talk) 21:47, 21 October 2017 (UTC)

File:SVG 3 paths BugSolved.svg[edit]

Hey JoKalliauer, ich glaube hier irgendwas zusätzlich mit einem schwarzen Viereck zu erklären macht überhaupt keinen Sinn... weniger ist mehr (wenn es denn sein muss reicht hier ein simpler erklärender Satz, es wurde hier nur äußerst einfach der Bug mit gleichen Quadraten aufgezeigt). Des Weiteren ist dein Präfix Bezeichnung "BugSolved" sehr unglücklich (ansonsten hätte ich eine andere Datei von dir schon als Ersetzung genommen jedoch war mir der Name zu doof), denn jede Datei ist ohne Bugs zu erwarten und der Renderer wird auch ab und zu gefixt (was die Bez. zusätzlich irritierend macht). Nichtsdestotrotz danke für dein Effort in der Sache. Einen schönen Advent -- User: Perhelion 23:31, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

Danke für dein Feedback.
Hätte ich ein Viereck gemacht wäre es tatsächlich sinnlos, jedoch habe ich drei Vierecke, dies kann man vollautomatisch mit https://jakearchibald.github.io/svgomg/ machen, also ich habe keinen neuen Code geschrieben:
<path d="M0 0h300v300H0zM300 0h300v300H300zM600 0h300v300H600z"/>
Generell finde ich den Bug Librsvg_bugs#Hairline_cracks nicht wirklich relevant, mir wäre er zumindest noch nicht in realen Dateien untergekommen.
 — Johannes Kalliauer - Talk | Contributions 00:00, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
Ja der Bug ist in der Tat trivial und hatte jetzt auf der Bug-Seite überproportionale Aufmerksamkeit. Dass der Bug bei vereintem Pfad nicht auftritt ist gerade so erwähnenswert (ein kleines Charakteristikum das eigtl. erwartungsgemäß ist). -- User: Perhelion 00:17, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

File:comparison_land_area_units.svg[edit]

Hi JoKalliauer,

Thanks for uploading a workaround for File:comparison_land_area_units.svg. In case you see this bug in the future, it was because I used an obsolete DOCTYPE. I no longer get question marks after updating it to

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>

The squashing of text is another issue: librsvg struggles with very small font sizes (2.5 px in this case). When I have time and inclination, I'll redraw it at 1000% to get sensible sizes.

Cheers,
cmɢʟee ⋅τaʟκ 13:50, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

@Cmglee: I would recommend to use font-sizes of 20px and bigger see File:Fonttest-Kerning.svg. I used Inkscape (free and open source) to make it 10 times bigger, I think you don't need to redraw it.  — Johannes Kalliauer - Talk | Contributions 16:37, 14 December 2017 (UTC)
✓  Done I didn't realise there was such a large error as the font-size shrinks. Quite insightful! cmɢʟee ⋅τaʟκ 20:16, 14 December 2017 (UTC)
@Cmglee:
There shouldn't be any error, because it is scalable vector graphics, but it is a bug of the renderer. An even worse example is here: File:StrekenProvincieUtrecht1.svg. (see old fileversions)
Was it on purpose that you made the border now dashed? File:Comparison_land_area_units.svg
I think I will suggest File:Comparison land area units Workaround.svg for deletion, since you fixed it yourself.
 — Johannes Kalliauer - Talk | Contributions 20:46, 14 December 2017 (UTC)
I realise that it should be scalable and is an librsvg bug, but not how large the error was. I thought that a viewer might think that the hectare is only the rectangle above the acre. Making it dashed makes it more obvious it extends all the way to the bottom. I tend not to be a deletionist, so I'll leave it to you whether you think it should be deleted ;-) Cheers, cmɢʟee ⋅τaʟκ 21:20, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

SVG restoration[edit]

Hello.

When you (totally) overwrite my fixes with your fixes, then also remove files from my category, please. BTW, where is your category? Incnis Mrsi (talk) 09:05, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

@Incnis Mrsi:
I retouched more than 100files[1]. I don't have a Category:Retouched by editor I only have Category:Uploaded_by_JoKalliauer, I might create it. I created Category:Retouched by JoKalliauer.
The reason why I restore older versions is that you sometimes remove flow text as in File:H-R_diagram_NL.svg, therefore I fix the file on my own.
If you want to remove the black squares: please instead of completely removing <rect>-tag add Transparency-attribution with fill-opacity="0" in the code of the <rect>-tag then the wikiparser does not show the black squares and the flowtext is still existing.
Example of code before:

<flowRoot><flowRegion><rect x="-375" y="182" width="132" height="8"/></flowRegion><flowPara>Absolute Helderheid</flowPara></flowRoot>

solution without removing the flowtext, but removing the black squares in the Wiki-Parser:

<flowRoot><flowRegion><rect x="-375" y="182" width="132" height="8" fill-opacity="0"/></flowRegion><flowPara>Absolute Helderheid</flowPara></flowRoot>

Then you make the rectangle transparent, but it is still needed/available for the size of the flow text (color and transparency is unimportant)
I first wanted to check other problems in Category:Images_restored_by_SVG_cleanup and then tell you a summary.
 — Johannes Kalliauer - Talk | Contributions 09:35, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
Also in File:Модель Клейна геометрии Лобачевского.svg you removed not empty flowting text.
Due to lack of time, I won't add old images to Category:Retouched by JoKalliauer (at least not now).
 — Johannes Kalliauer - Talk | Contributions 10:23, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
In Модель Клейна I also injected (Microsoft Office)-beloved «’» U+2019 (with very distinctively comma-like glyph in the font used) instead of «′». Fortunately you removed my 7-years-old shame out of sight today. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 14:26, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
Found the presumed pitfall. You could read «′» (wikicode and HTML: &prime;) as the typographic apostrophe (HTML: &apos;) and deemed that it describes a change that might be desirable. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 15:52, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
Thanks I didn't notice that. I reverted to your version and added:

 <g font-family="Liberation Sans" font-size="20" font-style="italic">
  <text x="192.43" y="265.93">A</text>
  <text x="268.7" y="186.49">B</text>
  <text x="70.56" y="161.83">O</text>
 </g>

 — Johannes Kalliauer - Talk | Contributions 15:11, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
It’s waring that we have communication troubles for such a nonce. I know my English grammar is intelligible enough. And there was no visible pretext to interpret my message above as a kind of sarcasm. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 15:18, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
Ups, Sorry I didn't read properly  — Johannes Kalliauer - Talk | Contributions 16:12, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
@Incnis Mrsi:
Because I saw you edited Category:Images_with_SVG_1.2_features, I just wrote 3 solutions how to User:JoKalliauer/RepairFlowRoot, the solution I told you before is the easiest, but the flow-text wont get displayed, the other two solutions are proper solutions.
 — Johannes Kalliauer - Talk | Contributions 19:02, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

File:Image-Tmi-2 schematic-fr Path.svg[edit]

Hello.
First, read carefully please the description of by= in {{derived from}}. Second, why did you create this new File: item at all? There is a problem with Adobe Inc. shit somewhere in revisions of File:Image-Tmi-2 schematic-fr.svg, but this site has a large crowd of sysops – it’s their job, these janitorial functions. Don’t please distract your valuable resources to it. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 21:23, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

There are many templates, I sometimes mess up between them, thanks for telling me. :-)
So File:Image-Tmi-2 schematic-fr Path.svg has to get deleted due to font-copyright-Problem of Adobe Inc. and File:Image-Tmi-2_schematic-fr.svg should be overwritten with File:Image-Tmi-2_schematic-fr_Text.svg?
 — Johannes Kalliauer - Talk | Contributions 21:38, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
Himmel OMG… didn’t you envisage that total deletion of Image-Tmi-2_schematic-fr.svg will destroy the last vestige of visible authorship claim for Kimdime? In case of revision deletion, SVGs with Adobe font will be inaccessible, but https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Image-Tmi-2_schematic-fr.svg&action=history will persist… verunderstand? Incnis Mrsi (talk) 21:46, 18 January 2018 (UTC)


PS I am just a stupid user, who wrote a script, that starts 1)Inkscape 2)scour 4)svgcleaner 5)svgo. When you edit some files, you know what they change. It is just comparing input with output.
Because of your request on Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Test.svg. If you want to delete an old version you have to start a DeletionRequest (DR) or ask any admin to delete it. (see: User_talk:Jcb/archive/18#Delete_of_Fileversions)
Himmel...are you German speaking? If so we could talk German.
I ment I would upload a new version to File:Image-Tmi-2_schematic-fr.svg and then delete File:Image-Tmi-2_schematic-fr_Text.svg as a duplicate.
 — Johannes Kalliauer - Talk | Contributions 21:52, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
Unfortunately, don’t know much German, but can remember that in a Jaroslav Hašek’s story an Imperial Austrian officer exclaimed “Himmeldonnerwetter”. As for SVG pollution with copyrighted fonts, I expect that you’ll find many live examples with Arial and similar stuff. I didn’t hunt for it systematically any only excised copyrighted items when observed them in the code. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 10:41, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
In my opinion real text with font-family="ArialMT" is ok, because 'ArialMT will substituded in the Rendering by DejaVu Sans (also Liberation Sans might be a better choice).
But if ArialMT is converted to Path as in File:Image-Tmi-2_schematic-fr_Path.svg it is a copyright-problem and should be deleted.
 — Johannes Kalliauer - Talk | Contributions 10:58, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
Hi, I received a notification. Sorry didn't read the whole discussion. I think my contribution to this file is basically a translation. I won't take offence if my attribution disappears. RegardsKimdime (talk) 14:10, 21 January 2018 (UTC)

Graphics village pump[edit]

Hello.
Could you watch Commons: Graphics village pump #File:Envelope cast.svg, please? I currently can’t talk anymore, it’s past midnight in Russia. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 21:24, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

User:Perhelion fixed the file and I repaired the Gnuplot-Source-Code, now the Gnuplot makes one plot with 100 red Lines instead of 100 Plots over each other with one red line each. Now Gnuplot would create a valid file (without postprocessing).  — Johannes Kalliauer - Talk | Contributions 00:24, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

Neues Problem[edit]

fällt mir seit gestern auf: die diversen von Igen erzeugten Blöcke ragen nun über den Rand der "Information" hinaus, es gibt neue Zeilen wo bisher keine gewesen sind, zT geraten Texte übereinander. Ich konnte noch nicht herausfinden woran das liegt, ist aber ein unhaltbarer Zustand. Kannst du etwas finden? -- sarang사랑 10:09, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

@Sarang:<span style="float:left;height:1.2em;vertical-align:middle">{{{p|}}}<!-- soll geändert werden auf <span style="vertical-align:middle">{{{p|}}}<!-- JoKalliauer (talk) 16:49, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
Der Code sollte von
<span style="float:left;height:1.2em"><!-- 
-->{{Created with Inkscape|v}}<!--
--></span><!--

--><noinclude><br style="clear:both"/>
----
--some text--
----
</noinclude>

auf

<span><!-- 
-->{{Created with Inkscape|v}}<!--
--></span><!--

--><noinclude><br style="clear:both"/>
----
--some text--
----
</noinclude>

geändert werden.

JoKalliauer (talk) 16:53, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Weiterdiskussion auf Template_talk:Image_generation#currently_not_working JoKalliauer (talk) 17:03, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
Danke Johannes; ich weiss immer noch nicht warum es plötzlich nicht mehr funktioniert hat. Wenn es mit dieser <span> Änderung besser geht - o.k.; aber das kann nichts damit zu tun haben dass die diversen boxes ausserhalb der Information-box erscheinen, und zT den Text der licence überschreiben. Wer oder was auch immer es gewesen ist, es ist inzwischen wieder repariert worden und alles sieht wieder gut aus (ev. nach purge).
Ich nehme deinen Änderungsvorschlag in die sandbox, für das baldige nächste update. Gruss -- sarang사랑 05:12, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

File:History of the Universe-zh-hant Workaround.svg[edit]

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Glrx (talk) 21:30, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

viewBox, width, and height[edit]

On 2 April, you said

Ich bevorzuge viewBox, weil im Browser dann das Bild genau hineingefittet wird (zu kleine Bilder sieht man groß genug um selbst Rundungsfehler durch CleanUp zu erkennen, zu große Bilder sieht man das ganze Bild ohne zu scrollen)
Bei dem Bild kam der Wunsch die Datei zu bereinigen, deshalb hab ich Scour im "aggressiven Modus" (inklusive --enable-viewboxing) durchlaufen lassen. Ob man viewBox bevorzugt oder nicht ist mMn Ansichtssache. Bei eigenen Bildern verwende ich viewBox (ohne height und ohne width) eigentlich immer.

but you just edited File:History of the Universe lang.svg and inserted a fixed width and height despite the file having a viewBox attribute. It doesn't make any difference to MW software today, but setting width and height to something other than 100% means the file will not do the right thing when inserted with the HTML object element. Glrx (talk) 15:03, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

@Glrx: Yes you can remove that, I forget to remove it. I used it because resolution with 5500 is a bit high, and https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons:Commons_SVG_Checker&withJS=MediaWiki:CommonsSvgChecker.js as well as http://tools.wmflabs.org/svgcheck/ does show in this resolution of the viewbox, which is too large for my notebook (I know you can scoll out but 5500 is in my opinion very huge). I height and width for debugging reasons, so please remove it in the next edit. JoKalliauer (talk) 16:37, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

File:Image-Tmi-2 schematic-fr Path.svg[edit]

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Glrx (talk) 16:18, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

@Glrx: File:Image-Tmi-2_schematic-fr.svg used font-family="'Myriad-Roman'", which is not available on commons therefore only File:Image-Tmi-2 schematic-fr Path.svg is identical to the original (the Original has already the converted the text to path). For the text-version I replaced the font with font-family="UnGraphic" which look's similar, but 'TOUR DE RÉFRIGÉRATION' was much too large therefore I used the smallest sans-font in File:MediaWiki_SVG_font_list_sans.svg (ordered in length of the characters), therefore it has a mixture of fonts which I would not recommend. I though I discus it first with you and then we both might come together to a conclusion and we summarise the conclusion in the official discussion for the administrators. JoKalliauer (talk) 16:48, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

I do not see a benefit in keeping the path text version. It may be an exact rendering, but an exact rendering is not needed. We don't need many copies of the essentially the same thing.
The fonts need not closely match. They are used as labels rather than calligraphic art.
Consider that images on Commons are intended to rendered everywhere (not just on Commons with RSVG). Yes, using a font such as "UnGraphic" may make the image work on Commons, but my machine doesn't have that font, so when I look at the Tmi-2 SVG in my browser, "TOUR DE RÉFRIGÉRATION" doesn't fit. The goal should be to make the SVG render reasonably with most user agents. That means one cannot rely on any one font being available. Images should render reasonably with the fallback fonts. I am guilty: I spent a long time using &thinsp; and Commons skinny fonts (font-family="Bitstream Charter") trying to keep the text in File:Proton proton cycle.svg within the boxes; then the font disappeared from Commons (look at hep now).
If the problem is to fit the line, then we could use a smaller font, we could avoid using all uppercase characters (e.g., the buildings could be in a bold font rather than uppercase), or we could use two lines. There's also textLength and lengthAdjust, but that's just asking for trouble.
File:Image-Tmi-2 schematic-fr Path.svg should be deleted. You should copy the SVG from File:Image-Tmi-2 schematic-fr Text.svg to File:Image-Tmi-2 schematic-fr.svg, and then File:Image-Tmi-2 schematic-fr Text.svg should be deleted as redundant. (Sometime File:Image-Tmi-2 schematic-fr.svg should be renamed to File:Tmi-2 schematic-fr.svg.)
Glrx (talk) 17:54, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
As written in my text above I changed "TOUR DE RÉFRIGÉRATION" to the smallest font font-family="Ubuntu Condensed" font-stretch="condensed", therefore I used two different fonts in the same file, which doesn't look nice. And if you do not have the font, font-stretch="condensed" should still work. If you do not have a Ubuntu Condensed installed you can download it from https://design.ubuntu.com/font/ . JoKalliauer (talk) 06:25, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
Do you know why https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Commons_SVG_Checker?withJS=MediaWiki:CommonsSvgChecker.js&checkSVG=File:Proton_proton_cycle.svg says WARNING in <g>: Font type Bitstream Charter is not available in Wikimedia software. It will be rendered with minor differences by Wikimedia's SVG renderer. See https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/SVG_fonts for details. JoKalliauer (talk) 06:25, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
There is a hep label in the proton–proton illustration; that's the line that RSVG now renders outside the box.
Labels should have plenty of room so they can be translated.
Using special fonts is not a general fix. Most operating systems will not have "Ubuntu Condensed", and most users would not bother to download an uncommon font (even if free) just to make an illustration work. Commons should have SVG files that work out of the box most of the time. Tmi-2 Text did not work out of the box when I loaded into Chrome, Edge, or Firefox; the label touched the cooling tower walls. Making an illustration work out of the box means using ordinary fonts. I love Palatino, Berkeley, and Tekton, but when it comes to SVG illustrations, it can be better to use others.
Yes, I know why the Commons SVG Checker issues the warning message, I know the Checker tests some font names multiple times (e.g., "DejaVu Sans Mono"), and I know that the Checker uses a linear search instead of a faster JavaScript object.
No, I do not know why Commons dropped Bitstream Charter. It used to be on Commons,[2] and that is why I used it. You noticed Bitstream went away. Why Bitstream fonts are gone doesn't matter to me; they are just gone.
The French Wikipedia redirects fr:Tour de réfrigération to fr:Tour aéroréfrigérante which also uses tour de refroissement (which en.Wikt says is the translation). cooling tower (Q193886) gives all three translations.
Glrx (talk) 17:38, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
@Glrx: I'm not shure if Commons really "dropped Bitstream Charter" see c:File_talk:Meta_SVG_fonts.svg. (There might be some issues with Commons-Checker.) JoKalliauer (talk) 22:10, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
I'm guessing it was dropped by its absence on the list and the overflowing line in the illustration, but I don't know for sure. In many ways, it does not matter. Even if Commons has a font and librsvg knows to use it, that does not mean the typical Windows, Mac, or Unix user has the font installed on his system. Glrx (talk) 16:14, 3 May 2018 (UTC)
I am not believing the Commons-Checker according to available fonts, check File:MediaWiki_SVG_font_list_sans.svg the Fonts from "Kedage" to "Waree" are rendered with the default fallback-font (DejaVu Sans), but without any warning of Commons Checker. JoKalliauer (talk) 22:04, 3 May 2018 (UTC)
Commons SVG Checker's list of fonts is a snapshot of https://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/fc-list ; the JavaScript source gives the regex it used to process fc-list. The current version of fc-list does not have "Kedage", "Mallige", and "TAMu*" anymore, so those should fail. The curent file has "Kacst*" with styles Medium, Regular, KacstScreen, but only "KacstQurn" and "KacstTitleL" use style Regular (as second option). "Guseul", "Lohit Oriya", "Lohit Telugu", "mry_KacstQurn", "TAMu" has style Regular. "Waree" has styles Bold, BoldOblique, Book, Oblique. Fonts that have style Regular should work, but maybe the Latin characters of some fonts use the same Latin characters as RSVG fallback (or use SVG's character fallback). Maybe RSVG is running off a different list. In any event, the conclusion is Commons SVG Checker does not have an accurate font list. Glrx (talk) 01:41, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
Looks like fc-list is generated by Unix command fc-list (man 1). See example output here. Going to https://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/ says the fc-list file is "dynamically generated" and "perfectly up-to-date". Glrx (talk) 18:36, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
@Glrx: But https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/g/operations/mediawiki-config/+blame/master/fc-list?blame=1 looks like it was edited by some users? If more problems occour we might should update https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:CommonsSvgChecker.js JoKalliauer (talk) 10:44, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
I think fc-list is just a status list rather than the database of installed fonts; editing fc-list doesn't seem to make sense; there's a library for font selection that should use the fonts that are actually installed. I'm slightly curious about an accurate font list for Commons. Updating Commons SVG Checker's list would not hurt, but we don't have an accurate list. Glrx (talk) 13:55, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

File:LibrsvgBug T193929.svg[edit]

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Deleted because it was not a librsvgbug, see phab:T193929 for details.  — Johannes Kalliauer - Talk | Contributions 19:07, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
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File:Antu application-pdf.svg[edit]

Hallo JoKalliauer, ich versuche zu verstehen, warum Du meine Änderungen an File:Antu application-pdf.svg rückgängig gemacht hast und die Datei wieder in Category:Uncheckable SVG created with Other tools:Antu icons einsortiert hast. Die Datei ist nicht mehr uncheckable, Kannst Du das bitte erklären? --Sebastian Wallroth (talk) 10:02, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

@Sebastian Wallroth: Sorry, mein Fehler, dachte das Skript hat die Kategorie unabsichtlich entfernt, hatte zu wenig aufgepasst. JoKalliauer (talk) 10:07, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
Ach, dass ist mir auch schon passiert. Grüße aus Berlin! --Sebastian Wallroth (talk) 11:41, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

Rsvg bug[edit]

Hallo Johannes, falls du mit den bugs weitermachen willst: jetzt sollte alles stimmen, incl. der automatischen Kategorisierung: generell sind alle bug-Kategorien aus den Dateibechreibungen zu entfernen. Du sagst mir wenn dir etwas auffällt! -- sarang사랑 09:43, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

@Sarang: Warum wird File:AMPS World Sectors.svg von {{Technically replaced}} in Category:Pictures_showing_a_librsvg_bug_(overwritten_with_a_workaround) einsortiert? JoKalliauer (talk) 14:08, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
Ich habe es jetzt geandert, in Technically replaced/layout, auf den Parameter fur "replaced"; hat sich von 6 auf 7 verschoben weil ich kurzfristig den Grund "compatibility" eingeschoben hatte. Danke fur den Hinweis! -- sarang사랑 16:01, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
Hier ein Hinweis fur dich, ich denke du hast es noch nicht bemerkt: {{Autotranslate}} kann nur unbenannte Parameter (1 bis max. 15) weitergeben/durchreichen, aber keine benannten! -- sarang사랑

Hallo, es scheint nicht so einfach einen Javascript-Kundigen zu finden, der auch aktiv ist... ich habe es mal bei Magnus versucht. Ich hoffe, wir konnen bald statt dem leeren default ein "U" bekommen; an die 10.000 Inkscape-Zuordnungen zu untersuchen um ev. nachtraglich den Leerwert zu ersetzen erscheint viel zu aufwendig - da sollte die Scriptanderung schneller gehen. Hilft klarerweise nur in der Zukunft! -- sarang사랑 06:46, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

Mit Magnus' Hilfe habe ich es hinbekommen, das Unknown tool als default vorzuschlagen (du weisst, dass nun auch alle SVGs von Texteditor da hineinfallen!). Weil das script protected ist brauche ich wieder mal einen Admin, um die Korrektur wirksam werden zu lassen; ich hoffe dass es bald geschieht. -- sarang사랑 16:22, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
Danke! euch beiden
Es war schon so seit dem ich das Skript kenne (Monate), also wenn es noch einige Tage so ist, fände ich es nicht tragisch, auch wenn es nervig ist. JoKalliauer (talk) 17:42, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

Ich habe die bug-Kategorien ein wenig in Ordnung gebracht, und Dateien entkategorisiert. Dabei sah ich, dass du unlängst SVG test text tspan ws.svg kategorisiert hast: Solche "direkten" Kats durfen nicht erfolgen - nur mit der Vorlage, und dann moglichst mit einem Hinweis was denn buggy ist. -- sarang사랑 14:34, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

@Sarang: Das weiß ich prinzipiell, passiert mir aber trotzdem manches-mal, oder irgendetwas ist etwas buggy, aber in dem Fall war es glaub ich Perhelion https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:SVG_test_text_tspan_ws.svg&diff=prev&oldid=125897457 Oder meinst du etwas anderes? JoKalliauer (talk) 14:45, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
Sorry, du hast recht, er war es - ich weiss nicht was er meinte. Aber ich weiss nun 100% dass du es weisst und richtig machst! -- sarang사랑 14:57, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

Ich glaub es noch nicht ganz: Perhelion ist wieder da! nach ganzen 2 Monaten. -- sarang사랑

Das freut mich sehr. Face-smile.svg Ich werde ihm wieder willkommen heißen, aber ich würde ihm mal Zeit lassen, hat sich sicher viel bei ihm aufgestaut, vielleicht brauchte er auch mal eine Wiki-Pause. Ich hoffe, dass er wieder voll zurück ist. JoKalliauer (talk) 20:28, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

File:Delphi location.svg[edit]

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Jcb (talk) 16:09, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Please see: User_talk:Marsyas#File:Delphi_location.svg  — Johannes Kalliauer - Talk | Contributions 19:05, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

File:Delos location.svg[edit]

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Please see: User_talk:Marsyas#File:Delos_location.svg  — Johannes Kalliauer - Talk | Contributions 19:05, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

CDATA[edit]

Hallo Johannes, in den letzten Tagen hast du aus einer Menge Dateien das PGF CDATA entfernt. Meine Meinung dazu: wenn es sich um eine Datei handelt die oft (oder sonstwie wichtig) eingebunden ist, wird das downloading durch die drastische Verkleinerung gringfügig beschleunigt; wenn das nicht der Fall ist, die Datei also nur gelegentlich mal angesehen wird, bringt eine solche Qualitätsverbesserung keinen Nutzen. Ich empfehle also, jedesmal abzuwägen ob die Erzeugung so einer weiteren Datei, eines besseren Duplikats, gerechtfertigt ist. Aber auf jeden Fall sollte das PGF-tag aus der Beschreibung entfernt werden! Fallls du meinst, mache ich eventuell noch ein tag "...enthielt PGF" – was meinst du?. -- sarang사랑 12:51, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

I doubt removing PGF CDATA has much of an impact on download speed. The SVG files are converted to PNG files at the server farm, and then the PNG files are cached for subsequent requests. A smaller SVG file will take less time for the server to read, but once converted, the SVG files need not be read again.
That said, I have no objection to removing the PGF CDATA; to most users it is dead weight.
I do object to other "optimizations" that affect the organization of the SVG file. The goal should not be an optimized SVG file but rather a clean SVG file.
Glrx (talk) 13:52, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
@Sarang: Yes I know "~" should be deleted, but in this case, I choose to parallel process files, therefore I first add Igen to several files, then I download the file, then I check again if all errors are removed, and remove the "~" again. I think it is not a problem to keep ~ for a few days. (I will clean the file-description-pages up upon myself.) "contained PGF" does not make sense to me, as long as those data are really useless, as I assume?  — Johannes Kalliauer - Talk | Contributions 14:26, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
@Glrx: Everytime the SVG is requested in a new size it has to be read again, or if someone "?action=purge" it, both does not occur that often, but files are often copied several times within Wikipedia (f.e translation to different language).
@Sarang, Glrx: However: In my opinion Category:SVG files with errors should be (with view exeptions) empty, because files might be invalid, but they should not contain errors (I mean real errors, which won't render correct, might not correlate with W3C-errors. Errors like links to not embedded pictures, or syntax-mistakes, or foreignObject only few Software knows, wrong MIME-type, missing xmlns...). As long as Adobe files with CDATA blocks is a subcategory of SVG files with errors, I think the files should be reuploaded to reduce the files in SVG files with errors, if we change categories, I would think differently.
 — Johannes Kalliauer - Talk | Contributions 14:26, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
@Sarang: Should Adobe files with CDATA blocks be a subcategory of SVG media for cleanup?  — Johannes Kalliauer - Talk | Contributions 12:20, 10 June 2018 (UTC)
I would suggest: no. Neither I think it the best idea to subcategorize them to SVG files with errors. It is of some interest how many huge files are around with these useless blocks, but it is not a real error, it's just ... filling the data bases. IMHO it is enough when the CDATA category is a subcat of the Adobe files. -- sarang사랑 12:45, 10 June 2018 (UTC)
Totally agree: Now Adobe files with CDATA blocks is a subcategory of SVG files with errors and therefore a subsubcategory of SVG media for cleanup, which does not make much sence as you said. Removing SVG files with errors on Adobe files with CDATA blocks makes sense to me.  — Johannes Kalliauer - Talk | Contributions 12:54, 10 June 2018 (UTC)
Yes, PGF CDATA blocks are not errors just like RDF, sodipodi, and chem elements are not errors; PGF data just has little value.
Please do not switch to English on my account. Glrx (talk) 18:11, 10 June 2018 (UTC)
Ich habe jetzt die Kategorie SVG files with errors(und somit auch SVG media for cleanup) entfernt: siehe history  — Johannes Kalliauer - Talk | Contributions 18:22, 10 June 2018 (UTC)

RSVG[edit]

ich habe ein neues Igen hochgeladen, und konnte den workaround in RSVG Bug wieder entfernen. Falls dir auffällt dass was nicht stimmt, bitte um Info. Danke -- sarang사랑 13:09, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

Archived page[edit]

I see you recently started a new section on an archived page. Figured you might want to know. - Jmabel ! talk 21:40, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

@Jmabel: I think User_talk:Rillke is the recent page. (It redirects to User_talk:Rillke/Discuss/2016). — Johannes Kalliauer - Talk | Contributions 21:49, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
I think what may be more germane is that Rillke hasn't edited Commons in over 2 years. - Jmabel ! talk 22:29, 11 June 2018 (UTC)