User talk:LX/Archive/2007: October to December

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Image Tagging Image:Johnny_hallyday_(2003).JPG[edit]

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I'm the brother of the user Cadenamado1, but he create many account becouse he have images of a concert of gwen stefani, he upload this photos to Flickr but, when he upload this pictures to commons, many user eraeser all pictures. you can help us for modiffy the license the photos in Flickr, remember this pictures are of my brother!!!. thanks for you collaboration. this is the page of him in flickr: flickr the preceding unsigned comment was added by Fernando12 (talk • contribs) 15:17, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

The files were deleted in accordance with the consensus at Commons:Deletion requests/Images of Cadenamado1. If you wish to dispute the deletions, please use Commons:Undeletion requests. LX (talk, contribs) 16:06, 17 October 2007 (UTC)


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I am sorry. You're right. There is a potential problem.
By the way, I voted Symbol keep vote.svg Keep. Thierry Caro 23:29, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

again me[edit]

I need your autorization, I can upload the images to commons? see this pages with my explication: the last item. the preceding unsigned comment was added by Fernando12 (talk • contribs) 22:52, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Commons:Undeletion requests/Current requests is on my watchlist, so I have seen your comment. Please be patient and allow me and other volunteers time to look into the issue. LX (talk, contribs) 06:10, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Delta Goodrem photograph ([1])[edit]

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"Fraudulent authorship claims"[edit]

A few months back I uploaded File:Delaware Shunpike.JPG onto Commons, a map I'd made using Google Maps. Today, I got an email notice that someone had said it might not be acceptable, and then very shortly afterward, you deleted it, marking it "Fraudulent authorship claims" and to look at Commons:Licensing. I can't really find anything there applicable one way or the other, but I'd like to know how I can avoid having my images deleted in the future. Jonpin 00:04, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Using Google Maps or taking a screenshot of it does not make you the author or copyright holder of its contents. See the copyright notice at the bottom of the page and the terms of use to which it links. LX (talk, contribs) 00:51, 21 October 2007 (UTC)


Let me know if you want a hand but you seem to be ok with it at present (I agree with your position completely & I am watching for puppets), cheers --Herby talk thyme 17:35, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. I always appreciate a second opinion. It would be nice to see someone else comment on COM:UNDEL as well. Since I carried out a large number of the deletions, I think it's in order that I comment on why I did, but if I'm the only one who comments, it could easily seem like it's personal or like I'm the police, prosecutor, judge and court of appeals judge, and that wouldn't be very good. LX (talk, contribs) 08:59, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
I agree - however the last couple of times I've dived in there I've had bad experiences. I'll certainly watch it more though, regards --Herby talk thyme 07:25, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Flickrwashed copyvio[edit]

Hello, Alex. I noticed you recently deleted a few images I uploaded from flickr. Note that I'm not blaming you, your argument makes perfect sense to me. I was wondering what we can do to prevent that flick user to hold those images on flick violating their copyright. I mean, I was using Magnus' FlickrWatch tool to search for images to ilustrate Cape Verde-related articles, and most of the images that appeared there were from this guy, caboindex (that's actually the name of a cape verdean website. I bet that site is full of copyright infringements, but let's not go that far). So, what do you think? Waldir 07:47, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Well, as the Flickr upload form states, one needs to keep in mind that Flickr users often don't know about copyright, so use common sense to evaluate the likelihood of the Flickr uploader being the copyright holder. Things to consider include the size of the full resolution version (copyvios are often, but not always, low-res), vastly different styles of photography for a single uploader, and geographical anomalies that can't be explained by normal travel habits. My favourite clue is probably exif data showing that the uploads were taken with several different cameras, and this is something that a bot could check for and either prevent the upload or at least give notice to a human to investigate.
Unfortunately, Flickr's copyright violation report form leaves a bit to be desired; it basically assumes copyvios will only be reported by the copyright holders. Maybe some of the users who frequently interact with Flickr could lobby for a more streamlined way for third parties to notify Flickr admins of suspected copyvios. LX (talk, contribs) 09:34, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
Well I'm not one of those frequnt Flickr users, so I don't think there's much I can do about that. But I think that we, the Commons, as a free-media repository which gets much of its content from there, are one of the main interested parties in this issue, so maybe we should do something, like asking commons-flickr users to do do a joint-force and make that lobbying. I am a flick user, I could participate on such an initiative, but alone, or with flickr people alone (whom I know very little) I wouldn't go far. But hey, what about an email from a prominent commons admin, or even a wikimedia figure? not jimmy wales =P but someone with some public exposure could contact them. Afterall, commons admins are fighting against copyright violations all the time, flickr would only benefit in giving them ways to notify them of copyvios in their site. And they would probably listen to a "near-official" wikimedia communication. Maybe this is a crazy idea, but it is an idea =P
About the bot: I think that's a great idea. You should propose it to Magnus, Erik and Flominator who all have tools to upload images from flickr. Especially Magnus, since his FlickrWatch tool searches flickr and returns suggestions, while in the others the image is inputted by the user. If you wish I can do that myself to spare you the work =P
PS - Erik would be a good person for the previous idea, since he is a board member and he has one of those tools... =P Waldir 09:58, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
Can you believe it?! I sent flickr an email, explaining the situation. As the whole contact form and page was in portuguese, I wrote in portuguese. Guess what. They replied in english and before sending the reply they translated it with some automatic translator (one of those web-based ones, like babelfish, i bet)!!! Obviously, the text in "portuguese" that I received was unintelligible. Are they nuts?! that's the way they're providing international support?? Go figue. Waldir 21:15, 22 October 2007 (UTC)


Read our problem in the page please Commons:Undeletion requests/Current requests --Fernando12 00:15, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

I've already told you, that page is on my watchlist, so there's no need to nag me about it. I've seen your comments, and I've already given you my final thoughts on the matter. LX (talk, contribs) 05:39, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
I'm not lie! becouse... mmmmm the mail tomorrow will be in internet! the mail is in Spanish, i think that you have a diccionary. tomorrow, I'm going to give you the permission, ok? this think is more important than if she live next to me. the important here is the prmission, in this moment I have, but isn't in english. when I send to you the link, i'm going to tal to you. bye. page in flickr, image of facebook of me but is in Spanish.... permission of tatiana but is in Spanish, i talk this to tatiana and she make the message in english. ok? in this page, in the end, is the english mod. i wait your answer --Fernando12 17:21, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
The only thing that proves is that you know how to register a Hotmail account. LX (talk, contribs) 17:46, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
. ??? why? i don't understand you. But you recive the image of facebook? if you fon't have a traductor i going to write this in English. Clear... please make a great publicity message of Stefani... and up say... Can you give me a permission of upload your image in face book to wikipedia? in this link: .... mmmm if you think that i'm lie... the first permission is in order. read... Ok? the second permission is of tatiana, but her pictures in this moment don't interest me the first is in oreder... remember --Fernando12 18:32, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
Look, we've established you've lied about the origin of your uploads in the past and used sockpuppets to evade bans repeatedly. Therefore, I can no longer assume good faith on your behalf. I will not undelete any of your uploads, and that's my final word on the matter. If you want to try to convince another administrator to undelete your uploads, go ahead, but I'm done wasting my time on this matter. LX (talk, contribs) 18:37, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
Ok, forgive all, I'm not upload the files. you won. ok? I go out of commons... in other moment before the act, i going to think. the file ( only the 1/2 ) are not of me. forgive all. bye bye. this picture are not me. the real autor is here in wikipedia. 1 --Fernando12 22:40, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

copyright violations[edit]

Hi LX,

I understood and agree with this and I will take care of these things thanks Eximius


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You have posted a note on my page about a copyright violation after I had marked the image for speedy deletion. I would strongly advice you to pay attention to whats going on before you make any claims like that. Jeblad 20:26, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

You marked the image, which you had uploaded without a valid licence, for speedy deletion between the time that I opened up the image and the time I hit delete, so I never saw that edit before it was deleted. LX (talk, contribs) 21:00, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Dealing with a user[edit]

Can you look into this report: COM:AN/V#User:5-0-5_.28Pop-Rock.29. I'm sick of screwing around with this user; he's been warned more often than the boy who cried wolf, and he's still spamming, and no one's around to do anything about it. Patstuart 21:29, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

I saw this when you first posted it, but didn't feel like my comprehension of Spanish was good enough to fully understand the problem. Looks like it's been dealt with anyway. LX (talk, contribs) 19:53, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Disabling my talk page[edit]

Who do you think you are, you bloody bastard? Only because you have more rights then me its not up to you to decide who my talk page looks like. Fuck off, go to hell, lick my ass, you are a drity motherfucker. Do you think you are trhe king and have to decide that? No, so piss off. Huebi the preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk • contribs) 16:47, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you expect to accomplish with that kind of language, but whatever it is you want to achieve, that's probably not a very constructive or effective way of doing it. Your user talk page is protected not because of who I am or who you are, but because you failed to adhere to Commons:Talk page guidelines. I recommend reading it once you've calmed down. LX (talk, contribs) 19:59, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
guidelines are no rules nor a must follow. do you have nothing else to do but playing police in commons, you asshole? so quick quick, lock me and my page again. --Huebi 21:22, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
✓ Done LX (talk, contribs) 22:20, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Image:SAG2004 197 Ferrari sigle.JPG[edit]

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I give a one dolar. Who is an owner? Joymaster 21:59, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Post scriptum. I always answer on disscustion site. the preceding unsigned comment was added by Joymaster (talk • contribs) 21:59, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Copyright is an immaterial right, not an object of material property. They are completely separate areas of law. LX (talk, contribs) 22:02, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Rudana photos[edit]

Deleting all of them may have been a mistake. Notwithstanding what was said on the image page, he did send a valid release to OTRS for images he created. Any one that I had tagged as appropriate with he OTRS tag should be restored. Thank you. -- Avi 13:27, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

The mistake, then, was to keep a Wikimedia-only permission on the image page. Also note that for most uploads, any permission given by Mr Rudana was null and void because he was not the copyright holder. Please make any undeletion requests at Commons:Undeletion requests. LX (talk, contribs) 13:31, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Bombastus le bradipus (talk · contribs)[edit]

Hi! This user seems to be a vandal whose name is some kind of joke on the name of two fr: users. His/her edits appear to mock these users' Belgian origin. I don't think this activity is related with the ArbCom dispute you mentioned (which deals with fr: articles about the Rotary International and POV problems). Jastrow (Λέγετε) 20:34, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Sound-Pearl poster[edit]

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Image restoration[edit]

Can you please restore File:K13-Aufkleber.jpg? We have a statement of release into the public domain in the OTRS system. Thank you. -- Avi 20:33, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

I do not have OTRS access, so I have no way of verifying that. I was not the one who deleted the image, so I don't know why you're asking me anyway. Please use Commons:Undeletion requests to request undeletions and notify Zirland, who did delete the image. You'll probably find that no administrator is going to do anything about undeletion requests which have not been raised at Commons:Undeletion requests and reached consensus there. LX (talk, contribs) 20:39, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
I am asking you because you are available. I am on the OTRS list, so I see the permission. I am not a commons admin yet, although I will request such privs shortly. In general, I am under the understanding that if an image has been deleted solely for the lack of a license and the license has now been submitted, it does not need to go through undeletion. Is that incorrect? -- Avi 20:44, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
I've asked the question here if you are interested in responding: Commons talk:Undeletion requests#Is the following class of undeletions acceptable? -- Avi 20:48, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

For other reasons, please disregard the undeletion request for this particular image. However, I would still appreciate your comments about the general question of the summary undeletion of images for which we have received licenses. Thanks! -- Avi 21:01, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

✓ Done (at Commons talk:Undeletion requests). Time to get some food and sleep now. :) LX (talk, contribs) 21:16, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Copyright holder appearing in image[edit]

Forgive me if I am wrong, but in a "work-for-hire" the copyright holder is the commissioner of the work; not the author/photographer. In the case of Mr. Rudana, wouldn't it be true that if the pictures were taken on his request, for him, he becomes the copyright holder? -- Avi 20:38, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

In that case, it needs to be clearly demonstrated that the photographer was a regularly salaried or hourly employed employee of Mr Rudana at the time and that the photograph was created within the scope of his or her employment or that there was a written contract for a work for hire. Do note that works produced by independent contractors or freelancers (except if done under a written contract explicitly stating that the result will be a work for hire) and other non-employees cannot be works for hire. LX (talk, contribs) 20:48, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. -- Avi 20:50, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Deletion request for Image:Glenfarclas.jpg[edit]

Hi there, I noticed you initiated a deletion request for Image:Glenfarclas.jpg. However, you did not complete the request; consequently the discussion is not yet valid. Please complete the steps given in the {{delete}} template on the image description page. Thanks, ~ Riana 14:58, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

I'd neglected to point this and several other images to the right subpage on COM:DEL when tagging them onto a related deletion discussion. I have now fixed this one and the others. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. LX (talk, contribs) 01:25, 10 November 2007 (UTC)


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Re: Image Tagging Image:RozkladMKD1942.jpg[edit]

Mam pozwolenie!!! [2]

Kopia posta z tego forum:

25.09.2007 17:42:51


   ni mom i nie bede mioł
   Skąd: przy drodze na Wyszków
   Zarejestrowany: 8.03.2007
   Posty: 2065

Re: PKP czy nie?

   Crusier~gość napisał:
   Mam takie pytanie, czy mogę zamieścić ten plik na Wikipedii TEN ??

Nie widzę przeciwwskazań. Rozkład - ani tym bardziej ten skan - nie są moją własnością. Sam to zresztą dostałem od kolegi a powiedziane jest (w Piśmie) "darmo otrzymaliście - darmo dawajcie" Tam wprawdzie było to o czymś innym, ale wspomniane dzieło powstało nieco wcześniej, niż rozkłady jazdy.

Oczywiście, nie miałbym nic przeciwko, gdyby znalazła się tam gdzieś wzmianka, skąd ów rozkład pochodzi - muszę się w końcu troszkę promować, nieprawdaż?

Co do stacji i przystanków... Nie jest to przejaw arogancji - słowo daję - może nieśmiało polecę taki link:


   * Cytuj

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LX (talk, contribs) 10:47, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

About Pics[edit]

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I'm posting this here considering that discussion to be over, so this is only another message to you.
Ok, let's try to make it right then... I'm editing the Rated R album article in order to get the big ol' star, and I want to put an image on the cover part that at least represents the album. I did a photoshop thing before that was a representation of the cover, but it was deleted also. So I thought of making something that isn't the same but it will remind people of Rated R cover. I really don't know how to show ya without uploading so I'm just gonna upload and send ya the link. It's completely my work and if you look at the R cover it's not the same, it only has the R in a white square and the saying below. Here it is: Rated R remark.png Melancolicsphere 19:29, 15 November 2007 (UTC)


Thanks for your immediately action :-) Good Job, regards :-) --Filnik 19:31, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

TR-Logo-On Dark 100px.png[edit]

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Template talk:PD-Canada[edit]

Please join in the discussion...--Padraic 20:22, 21 November 2007 (UTC)


Hey LX, how are you doing? I'd like to know if Image:Ringo riendo.jpg is a valid pic for the Commons. Thanks, Melancolicsphere 05:36, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

No, it wasn't. Screenshots of copyrighted films are subject to the copyright of the film. I've deleted the copyright violation and informed the uploader. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. LX (talk, contribs) 15:25, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

From: AsakuraStar[edit]

Go ahead. the preceding unsigned comment was added by AsakuraStar (talk • contribs) 18:49, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Commons:Questionable Flickr images contributions[edit]

Thanks for your help! --AnonEMouse 14:29, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

No problem. I think that's a great initiative. I must admit I got a bit perplexed with the format of the entries. I think bots would have an easier time making use of it if it were clearly tabulated and only contained the most relevant bits of information (i.e. excluding things like the Flickr user's stated location). LX (talk, contribs) 20:55, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
We can get rid of the stated location, I'm not sure why that's important either. They seem to have been added by User:Jeff G., let me ask why he thought they were useful. The usernames and links to flickr accounts are important, as are the actual discussions. --AnonEMouse 21:53, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Copyright Violations[edit]

Hi, yes, I know that many images I've uploaded have been marked as copyright violations, but most of them are images that I've uploaded in one day without knowing the licenses. How can I know that? I just want to help Wikipedia, I hate vandalism and all that stuff, so sorry if I did something wrong. It was not my intention. I just have no way to know if one image is a copyright violation or not. I want to upload a image to the article Ringo Starr and I don't know if it's fine... Well, thank you for making me know.--Tina 63 22:21, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Please read Commons:Licensing. Please refrain from uploading any images until such a time that you are able to tell whether or not you would be violating copyright laws in doing so. LX (talk, contribs) 15:30, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

AIC images[edit]

Hey man, I've seen ya deleted another pic uploaded by me, and I think these other ones by me are also wrong: Image:Mike Inez.jpg and Image:AIC acousticset2.jpg. Those two plus the one ya deleted were from the same time and well it's been quite a long time, I think it was even before ya started sending me messages. Don't worry, I believe those are the last wrong ones. Melancolicsphere 22:14, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. I've deleted them now. Sorry for the delay; I've been travelling and working long hours. LX (talk, contribs) 15:22, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Image Tagging Image:Stockh_1930_5a.jpg samt 7a, 8a och 9a[edit]

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