User talk:Lecen

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I took the picture, Oscar Pereira da Silva - Desembarque de Pedro Álvares Cabral em Porto Seguro em 1500, in the Museu Histórico Nacional in Brazil Wmpearl (talk) 18:57, 6 January 2014 (UTC)


I took the picture in the Museu Histórico Nacional. Other pictures I took may be found in: Category:Paintings in the Museu Histórico Nacional Wmpearl (talk) 20:15, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

File:Anônimo - D. Pedro, Duque de Bragança.JPG[edit]

Commons-emblem-issue.svg File:Anônimo - D. Pedro, Duque de Bragança.JPG has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.

If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue.
Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!


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Adam Cuerden (talk) 09:22, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

Warning[edit]

Hi, Stop reverting this. This is edit warring, and is prohibited. Regards, Yann (talk) 18:56, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

Well, if you think you can edit warring because of your edit count, see Commons:Administrators' noticeboard/User problems#Lecen. Regards, Yann (talk) 19:09, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
Also, you don't need to spread your (wrong) arguments everywhere. Most admins watch the undeletion page, they will see it. Regards, Yann (talk) 10:18, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
Please mellow down :). Nothing is deleted forever and you reach for more with the mellow approach. If you ask several people at the same time and you use strong language that won't work. Admins are aware of the undeletion and someone will make a decision based upon Commons Policy soon. However, if you make a fuss about this it will only take longer before an admin will decide since discussion that are more about the tone than about the actual arguments are not very popular to close. You made a good demonstration why. You treat Commons as a battleground and that is not okay. I am kindly asking you to mellow down and let this one slide until emotions are less in play. Natuur12 (talk) 11:28, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
Hi, it looks like you're a little upset about a painting - please, calm down. It's only a painting after all and as Natuur12 says, it's never deleted forever. It's considered bad form to visit the talk pages and leave messages for the people who vote a particular way in a deletion discussion, especially one where you're involved in uploading the original image. Please, make your arguments at the undeletion request and allow the community to come to a decision as normally happens. Thanks. Nick (talk) 11:30, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
"Calm down"? An editor calls me a racist and only because I asked someone to take a look at a file I'm the one to be told to "calm down"? Did any of you see what Adam Cuerden did at English Wikipedia? 1) He got into an edit war if other editors trying to impose his version as the right one in the article. 2) He tried to upload his version over the old file. 3) He opened a Featured Article Review asking for the article to lose it's status simply because he didn't like the painting. 4) He asked the painting to be erased from Commons. 5) He called me and the other editors who disagreed with his file "racists". I come here, I ask people to take a look at the file as it actually looks when hanging on a wall and you believe that I'm the one being confrontational? --Lecen (talk) 11:36, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
Nobody claims that you are the only one to blame in this conflict, however, en-wiki is en-wiki and not Commons. All I ask is for de-escaltion instead of even more escalation. I don't blame you or anyone else. But you simply can't have a good discussion with all those emotions in play.Natuur12 (talk) 11:48, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
If he's not the only one to blame, you should be posting warnings at the other editor's talk page as well as here. On wikipedia, it is considered bad form for an administrator to use an administrative tool to force his way in a dispute, but it seems to be acceptable here. DrKiernan (talk) 11:58, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
My message is just a request. Beside the unmellow approach, the things there are to blame happened at en-wiki and they should be dealt with there. Everyone loses his patience every now and than and that's not a problem since we are all human and I have no intention to solve this conflict using tools. Plus, doing something wrong is not the same as doing something blockable. Natuur12 (talk) 13:03, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

Sourcing[edit]

By all means, change the exact text on File:Anônimo - D. Pedro, Duque de Bragança.JPG, but you can't claim a source that it isn't actually from - It is not from Eravirtual.org, it's a modified version of a scaled-down Google Art Project scan - and you must explicitly note that changes have been done. Adam Cuerden (talk) 01:40, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Zzzzzzzzzzz... --Lecen (talk) 01:41, 20 February 2015 (UTC)