User talk:Livioandronico2013

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You have been blocked for a duration of 6 months[edit]

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You have been blocked from editing Commons for a duration of 6 months for the following reason: uncivil behaviour/personal attacks after numerous warnings and blocks, see COM:AN/U. If you wish to make useful contributions, you may do so after the block expires. See block log.

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Steinsplitter (talk) 13:48, 27 November 2017 (UTC)

Ottimo lavoro Steinsplitter,senza essere avvisato o senza un warning,è normale questo Sergio? e sopratutto gli altri possano definire le mie foto "Cartoon" o insultami,venire a votare solo le mie foto negativamente ed a insultarmi a loro niente. Ok se questo mondo è così ve lo lascio. The Photographer I will be polite when others will be with me. Goodbye. --LivioAndronico (talk) 16:37, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
And thanks Ikan Kekek really man do this behind without even warning. I already knew you were not a photographer, now this too. Thanks again. --LivioAndronico (talk) 16:43, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
Non è vero. Hai ricevuto tanti avvisi nel passato, e sei stato bloccato non solo una volta. Il tuo comportamento non è accettabile. Pertanto ti avviso se sei abusando la tua talk page, possiamo revocare l'l accesso per la stessa. --Steinsplitter (talk) 16:48, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
Cioè uno riceve un avviso 6 mesi fà o più e questo vale per sempre? Io ripeto è normale questo Sergio? Comunque Steinsplitter non sai parlare senza minacciare o bloccare? Non ti ho mai visto nè sentito se non per questi due motivi, amministratore molto utile direi. Loro mi prendono in giro ed è tutto OK io rispondo esono lo stronzo? hai la coscienza a posto? Va bene, ANCHE IO dunque blocca pure tanto che ci vengo a fare?. Ti ringrazio Sergio per la pazienza e ti auguro anticipatamente un buon Natale ed un felice anno nuovo. Ho 38 anni,faccio l'arbitro e l'imprenditore turistico, mia moglie è incinta del nostro terzo figlio dunque qualcosa farò,grazie ancora.--LivioAndronico (talk) 22:10, 27 November 2017 (UTC)

Colin and Livio, is it too much to ask you both to ignore one another? Clearly you two have relation problems amongst yourselves. Can you both relate one another without using triggering terms? -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 16:57, 27 November 2017 (UTC)

Blackcat, no we clearly don't just have relation problems among ourselves. I am tired of admins who don't do their job and suggest "interaction ban" whenever there is any hassle between two users. Livio has a problem with everyone who dares oppose his pictures. There are about half a dozen reviewers on Commons who've had issues and most do not review his pictures any more. That's what he wants, blackcat, for nobody to oppose his pictures. You will not find any issues with my reviews of Livio's images, though you won't find many because it is such a painful experience I am reluctant to do so. You will find me opposing others day in day out, without any problem. There are clear examples in the past and current of livio deliberately revenge voting. In addition to the unpleasant tone he takes with reviewers. Please black cat, if you can't be bothered to examine the actual history, just don't bother contributing at all. -- Colin (talk) 18:51, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
The record amply bears out Colin's remarks. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 20:31, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
Colin do you have to lie to live? Where would these dozens be? Pathetic....Ikan Kekek you may be worse off doing these hidden things, but you know it--LivioAndronico (talk) 22:10, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
Livio is not able to talk english and hes using automatic translators. You also might try to understand his difficulties in communicating.Paolobon140 (talk) 20:50, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
Paolobon140 you can see on AN/U the various links supplied by Wikicology showing a long-term pattern of insults. I don't think anyone, including Livio, has ever suggested the insults were are result of Google translate failing with some loving banter between good friends. Or that he has ever claimed the reason he got upset and started throwing insults was because he misunderstood what someone wrote. The recent: "with Diliff ... are you in love? You should tell him": I haven't heard that sort of childish comment since school. It has no place here. -- Colin (talk) 08:50, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
Grazie Paolobon140 ma come ti dissi precedentemente qui è un covo di serpi...come si dice a Roma :"Il più pulito c'ha la rogna!"--LivioAndronico (talk) 22:10, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
Paolobon, capisco anche italiano. Suoi parole in italiano non erano meglio che in inglese. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:10, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
Colin, I understand your point but for example here I retired my positive vote because of a technical observation (light couldn't be such in that period of the year at that time) and Livio accepted my decision without problems. I mean that one can turn a proposal down without using triggering and aggressive metaphors like "you use NR and Clarity like a tart uses foundation and lipstick", especially if one is not ready to receive sarcahasm. If you had said "sorry but in my opinion you used too much noise reduction", and had like me noted that at that time there couldn't be that light through the windows, most probably you wouldn't have got an overreaction. I'm not justifying Livio because overreaction is never justified, so I am not discussing the block, I am just telling that there's no need for triggering the counterpart. I am often addressed with acid sarcahasm but I am one who deals with that and am cynical enough to not care, but not everyone has this high threshold. -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 11:16, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
Blackcat that's not a fair quote. The original review said "The stonework has no texture (possibly too much NR) and the carvings have way way too much local contrast ("Clarity" slider to the max)." Which I'm sure you agree is as dispassionate and unlikely to cause any offence as is possible. Yet above you claim "If you had said "sorry but in my opinion you used too much noise reduction"" -- well, I did. And Livio responded with "I don't use NR,thanks". Which we all know is a lie. I've no idea why he lies about his processing, since it is not like we can't tell. As I said before, if you can't be bothered to review the history and report facts accurately, then you aren't helping. I have better things to do than deal with misrepresentations of the truth like above. I sincerely hope the above mistake was an accident rather than deliberate -- Colin (talk) 11:46, 28 November 2017 (UTC)


Blocked Indefinitely
This user has been blocked indefinitely.

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Livio, this recent block and your past behaviour has been discussed at the Administrator's Noticeboard and there is consensus that your block shall be extended to an indefinite period. You may appeal this block by email but there is little chance that your request will be considered within a period of six months from now. After six months, your talk page access will be restored so you can make a regular request for unblock if you so wish. De728631 (talk) 14:31, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

Translation requested at my talkpage: Livio, questo blocco recente e il tuo comportamento passato é stato discusso nella AN di commons e cé consenso di bloccarti a un periodo indefinito (per sempre). Puoi presentare ricorso contro questo blocco via e-mail, ma ci sono poche possibilità che la tua richiesta venga presa in considerazione entro un periodo di sei mesi. Dopo sei mesi, l'accesso alla pagina di discussione verrà riaperta per effettuare una richiesta di sblocco. --Steinsplitter (talk) 15:12, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
I have now restored your talk page access, so you may use the {{Unblock}} option. De728631 (talk) 20:31, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year[edit]

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Excuse me if I get them now but soon the Grand Administrator Steinsplitter will block me and then:

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to Spurzem,Llez ,Famberhorst, Petar , Ermell, Jacek,Johann,Diego,Agnes,PumpkinSky, Moroder,XRay,Pudelek, Lmbuga ,Ralf , Laitche, Martin, Uoaei1, Daniel,Berthold, Basotxerri, Christian ,George,Paolobon140 I hope I have not forgotten anyone Face-tongue.svg....eh yeah, I have to admit that I quarrel with a lot of people LaughingOutLoad.gif --LivioAndronico (talk) 22:10, 27 November 2017 (UTC)

P.S Diego I'm sorry, but as I think you understand ... I can not make the changes you requested --LivioAndronico (talk) 22:10, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
  • Nice picture. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. --User:Lmbuga.
  • Nice picture. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. -- PumpkinSky talk 22:33, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
Thank you, LivioAndronico, and best wishes to you. -- Lothar Spurzem (talk) 22:35, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
Have a good Christmas time, Livio! You have to see things from the good side, now you have a lot of time for many other things :) Poco2 22:47, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
  • Thanks, Livio! I wish you the very best for the next time, and I hope you will come back afterwards with lots of great pictures --Uoaei1 (talk) 05:15, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
  • Thank you. I wish you you the very best too. Hopefully you'll come back soon. It's time for recreation ... and to take photographs. --XRay talk 05:33, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
  • Thanks! Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year --Martin Falbisoner (talk) 06:18, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
  • Thank you! Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. --Berthold Werner (talk) 10:25, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
  • Thank you, Livio. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. --Laitche (talk) 12:44, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
  • Merry Christmas for you too. My recommendation is prepare a big package of Featured Pictures images, if you want nominate something, simply, tell me. --The Photographer 15:04, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
  • Molti saluti, amico! Best wishes! --Basotxerri (talk) 18:29, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
  • Meglio presto...che mai. Tanti Auguri e pace!Belle feste!--Wolfgang Moroder (talk) 05:53, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
  • @Livioandronico2013: You forgot one! Happy holidays to you and your family my old friend! lNeverCry 43.239.73.42 23:58, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
  • @Livioandronico2013: Now you have time for setting Krismas tree in Holly Rome. That is double joy ! Mery Krismas to Roma. --Mile (talk) 16:42, 7 December 2017 (UTC)

Quality Image Promotion[edit]

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Quality Image Promotion[edit]

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FP Promotion[edit]

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Unblock request[edit]

Unblock request declined

This blocked user asked to be unblocked, but one or more administrators has reviewed and declined this request. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked. Other administrators can also review this block, but should not override the decision without discussion.

Request reason: "I will not answer any more comments ... promised"
Decline reason: "COM:BLOCK requires an acknowledgement of the issue and a credible promise to discontinue the behaviour that caused the block. These requirements, by the way, are more or less criteria #2 and #3 of the Standard Offer, the premise under which talk page access was restored. This request provides neither (fails both), and is bizarrely meagre and apathetic, especially given the anticipation implied by its appearance a mere 15 minutes after talk page access was restored, after a 6 month wait. The lack of effort does not speak well of sincerity, a measure of credibility. Further, even if the required commitment had been made, there would be ample evidence of a lack of credibility as demonstrated by the diffs below. The obstinateness and utter lack of clue necessary for someone blocked for incivility and personal attacks to make this revert and then less than two weeks later request an unblock is remarkable. If Livioandronico2013 is unprepared to acknowledge that his conduct and hostility are incompatible with a collaborative project, and to act accordingly, he should be prepared to remain blocked. Эlcobbola talk 22:04, 13 June 2018 (UTC)"
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Ok elcobbola, is possible delete all my pictures? --LivioAndronico (talk) 06:43, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
No, it is not possible unless they violate policy (e.g., are copyright violations, out of scope, etc.) You have donated them with irrevocable licenses. Эlcobbola talk 20:39, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

Livioandronico2013 was blocked for six months by User:Steinsplitter on 27 November 2017. On 10 December 2017 this was extended to indefinite:

“There is consensus that User:Livioandronico2013 be blocked indefinitely for his continuous incivilities and rude responses during disputes while having been blocked numerous times before. The recent six-months block handed out by Steinsplitter will therefore be extended accordingly. As Livio has shown no sign of understanding and did not tone down his rhetorics even after this new block, appeals made by Livioandronico2013 to the indefinite block shall only be considered after a period of six months from today. Livio's talkpage access will then be restored so he can make a regular request for unblock." -- De728631

While blocked on Commons, Livioandronico2013 wrote an attack on my Wikipedia talk page here on 5th December 2017. When my talk page was archived, I naturally did not retain that attack. Then on 22 May 2018 Livioandronico2013 restored his attack to my talk archive here. I removed it and he restored it again on the 24th May 2018 here. I complained and an admin removed the attack, protected my talk page archive, and Livioandronico2013 was blocked for a week on Wikipedia on 26th May 2018. His response to being blocked, posted 2nd June 2018 is here.

Livio "evaded" his Commons block by attacking me repeatedly on Wikipedia. I have had zero interaction with Livio on Wikipedia, so the attacks there are purely motivated by his issues on Commons. This cross-project harassment occurred only a few weeks ago, and his defiant response to the en:wp blocking admin was only 10 days ago. See no reason at all to unblock. -- Colin (talk) 09:57, 12 June 2018 (UTC)

Symbol oppose vote.svg  Oppose . Diffs shown by Colin make me feel, that Livio is not ready to interact with other users in a civilized way. Promise not to answer comments does not sound good, because often some comments need to be answered, for example somebody can ask questions. I see here no apology. Taivo (talk) 18:21, 13 June 2018 (UTC)
Ok Taivo, is possible delete all my pictures? --LivioAndronico (talk) 06:45, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
@Taivo: I always found Livioandronico a pleasant colleague and I never had any problems with him. His pictures are very good and it is a great pity that he is excluded from collaborating in the commons. Best regards -- Lothar Spurzem (talk) 21:08, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
Thanks Lothar but is too late.....--LivioAndronico (talk) 21:32, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

Pictures[edit]

Diego,Yann or blackcat seen is not interested in Taivo and elcobbola, or they do not know .... do you know how I can delete all my images here? Thank you --LivioAndronico (talk) 20:27, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

You are blocked, so you cannot delete anything here. Even after unblocking you cannot delete anything here. Only administrators have right to delete. But if you want to delete all your uploads in Commons or only some your uploads, then I oppose. Uploader's request is valid reason only during first week after uploading. If you uploaded self-made photos into Commons, then you published them under non-revocable free license and you cannot demand their deletion. Taivo (talk) 20:49, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
I understand that Livio is asking us to delete them. Per Taivo, that is not possible, as those are not "your" images anymore but rather belong to everybody when you uploaded them with a free license. The same applies to articles in Wikipedia. None of the described deletion criteria in the corresponding policy would cover this case, sorry. Poco2 20:57, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
Poco, I surprised to see you make this mistake. The photos still are owned by Livio. They do not belong to anyone else, certainly not to everyone. This is quite different to Wikipedia, which is a collaborative editing project where every article has multiple editors and thus a multitude of "owners", none of whom have any more rights than any other. The most obvious consequence of this is that, as copyright owner, Livio can additionally licence his work in any way he likes (such as asking for a fee to remove the need for attribution for a given re-user), or even to release them into the Public Domain, whereas the rest of us are bound only to reuse his images under the strict terms of CC BY SA 4.0.
Livio, although the licence is legally irrevocable, Commons is not legally bound to host them forever, and could choose to no longer do so. But it is current and longstanding community policy to reject deletion requests where the author regrets their donation long afterwards. -- Colin (talk) 07:43, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
Anyway Colin you should not "scold" only Diego but also Taivo and Elcobbola said it and before him (I sincerely think like you,but isn't a problem). However, even if too late I have to admit that I could handle myself better here ..... and I sincerely regret it, but that's life. I greet everyone, I apologize if I bothered you and anyway I thank you for your time. You can also close my talk page. Thanks again.--LivioAndronico (talk) 16:58, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
Livio, I'm used to that, yes, it's kind of annoying, specially when people get involved in discussion although they've not been asked to Poco2 09:08, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
No. Poco said "those are not 'your' images anymore but rather belong to everybody" which is, as Colin noted, entirely wrong. You in fact retain ownership of the intellectual property; you've merely relinquished some (but not all) rights. Taivo and I merely said the licenses under which you released the images are not revocable; unlike Poco's, ours were not comments on ownership. Эlcobbola talk 17:39, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
Ok all have right...So yes or not elcobbola?--LivioAndronico (talk) 21:34, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
gracias por la respuesta y tu tiempo Diego --LivioAndronico (talk) 21:01, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
Livio, hanno ragione. La richiesta di cancellazione, su foto regolari, non dipende più da chi le ha caricate, e da bloccato non puoi neppure, in caso, fare una richiesta (che comunque verrebbe cassata per i motivi anzi detti). Mi dispiace. -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 22:10, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
Grazie Sergio --LivioAndronico (talk) 17:00, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

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--LivioAndronico (talk) 20:38, 30 June 2018 (UTC)