User talk:MECU/Archive/Jun2007

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Please do not delete old PD images if there are used. Thanks, Yann 21:01, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Hello, If you want a source, there it is: [1] This is a fairly known picture which is available at many places all over the Net. Regards, Yann 09:04, 1 June 2007 (UTC)


Regarding , why did you confirm Image:PalumboFacechest.jpg ?

  • First, no explicit license was mentioned on the email (and no public domain acceptance either)
  • Second, "I release the rights to you to use my photos on my Wiki page!" is a "with permission for wikipedia" like thing, so no, it's not valid either. -- Drini 23:51, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

So, do not confirm images with no explicit license selected or "for wiki only". -- Drini 23:52, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

No, that's not a valid public domain statement. -- Drini 00:46, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
I'll ask for more feedback on the pump, maybe I'm wrong here. -- Drini 00:58, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Deletion of Image:BD_blue.svg


Yes, it had no logo because the purpose of the image was userboxes, and it was in houndreds of userboxes! You might check if images are used before you decide whether images are "useful" or not or delete any!--Ssolbergj 02:17, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

My understanding is that the Blu-ray Disc logo is copyrighted with rights restricted according to the license agreement (formerly here), any use by the WMF would be attempted fair use, attempted fair use is disallowed on Commons, and attempted fair use is only allowed on local projects (like English Wikipedia) under EDPs that generally don't include userboxes (like English Wikipedia's EDP doesn't include userboxes). So, yes, it had to go. Sorry.   — Jeff G. ツ 23:06, 4 June 2007 (UTC)


Hi Mecu,

I thought I listed the source of Image:Teltschik2.jpg quite explicitly. Can you explain to me your objections? I list the author and a link to de wikipedia where the image is uploaded.

Imars 20:36, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

The problem is that the day after you uploaded that image to Commons at 16:57, 16 March 2007 (UTC), it was deleted by Polarlys at 19:38 on 17. Mär. 2007 because it was "NowCommons". So the original source was lost, and we can't have images here without original sources - perhaps Polarlys can get that info for us, or if you used the CommonsHelper tool, Magnus Manske. In order to keep this problem from happening in the future, you need to credit the original source (as well as any project where it was uploaded) when you copy an image from any project to Commons.   — Jeff G. ツ 23:21, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
Done. @Imars: Please use Commons Helper to transfer images. It preserves the original upload log and chooses the correct license. Regards, --Polarlys 01:34, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
Thank you, Polarlys! Now, my reading of Commons:Freedom of panorama#Germany is that "the right to modify the works and to produce derivative works requires the permission of the original copyright holder" is incompatible with Commons. Is that correct? If so, we need "the permission of the original copyright holder" sent to OTRS for this image. If not, please change the wording on Commons:Freedom of panorama#Germany to better reflect actual compatibility with Commons.   — Jeff G. ツ 16:35, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
Wow, Bahnhof. So we aren't supposed to use the upload tool to upload images? Imars 06:24, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
You are supposed to use the upload tool with the assistance of Commons Helper to upload images that are already on other Wikimedia projects.   — Jeff G. ツ 14:06, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Deletion of Image:Plan 9 boom mike.png

The film Plan 9 from Outer Space is in the public domain. There was no copyvio involved with this image. (Ibaranoff24 00:00, 6 June 2007 (UTC))

  • The copyright expired. (Ibaranoff24 12:03, 6 June 2007 (UTC))
I agree, please restore this image.   — Jeff G. ツ 14:15, 6 June 2007 (UTC)


I upload this photo from my flickr and it was deleted. Why? I set photo license to Attribution-ShareAlike 2.0? The preceding unsigned comment was added by Paszczak000 (talk • contribs) at 07:18, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

It was deleted because of "copyvio, contains logo" per this log. Specifically, I suppose it contains Microsoft's copyrighted Windows XP logo. Fair use of that is not allowed on Commons.   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs|supports deadminship for inactivity) 07:59, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Ok. Understand. Screenshot without logo but with windows xp desktop would be okey? --Paszczak000


O cara!! como minha foto pode ser copyvio se fui eu que tirei? ah fala sério! Eu fui no estádio tirei a foto (de celular), sou Gremista de coração e tu ainda me quer deletar a foto? affff faz favor né? isso não é violação de direitos autorais é abuso de imagens!! ahhh e se tu for apagar eu vou colocar denovo!! Nathan Sodré Salvatierra 08:26, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Pedro de Heredia

Hi, I took this pic from the english wikipedia, where the author of the image: User:F3rn4nd0 states that it is under the CC or GNU licence. What sould I do? I'm not expert in commons at all. Thanx Guanxito 11:23, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, i forgot to link the pic -->Image:Pedrodeherediaestatua.png :) Guanxito 20:22, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Image:DH84 Dragon.jpg

Hi, I would appreciate it if you could put the OTRS ticket info for Image:DH84 Dragon.jpg onto the image description page when you have a chance. Thanks. howcheng {chat} 18:30, 8 June 2007 (UTC)


--> here Regards, __ ABF __ 12:40, 9 June 2007 (UTC)


please see again my user talk, thank u Doronef 13:13, 9 June 2007 (UTC)


Hi - I was surprised by this, as my impression was that it was not an image under copyright that was used for the base of it. I may be wrong - what's the original source image for this? Phil Sandifer 04:15, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

The copyvio tag said: "The background image is the copyrighted front cover of the Half-blood prince (UK Adult edition)"., which appears to be true, though the image here was just cropped down. MECUtalk 01:19, 11 June 2007 (UTC) (copied from User talk:Phil Sandifer#Image:HarryPotterWiki.png)

I've just reuploaded a photo I (MYSELF) took, please don't delete it straight away again....

I've been trying to upload to commons a photograph i took myself, and have uploaded on flickr. I like quite a lot of people on wikipedia am trying to contribute, but why should we even bother when our contributions are deleted same day without warning, simply because something might have a small incorrect licensing tag applied to it. All i'm asking is that you contact someone who's uploaded their own stuff before you delete it without warning. I have uploaded it again, please atleast have the courtesy to warn me if you feel the urge the delete it again. -Swarve 13:35, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Copyright violation Bulgarian banknotes

Same request: I uploaded images of Bulgarian banknotes 3 months ago, they were tagged for deletion yesterday, and you deleted them within 24 hours! Not every contributer to Wikimedia Commons can check his user page every day. I spent quite some time uploading these images, and would appreciate a little more time (say 1-2 weeks) to clarify the copyright issue before you delete my work and thereby waste my time. Preslav 15:48, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

I just opened a discussion on my "copyright violation" on Iamunknown's talk page. Please convince me that it is! Preslav 11:34, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Image:Po-2LNB PICT0044.jpg

Take it easy, give me 10 minutes, while I'm improving Po-2 article on en-wiki at the same time :-) Pibwl 23:29, 12 June 2007 (UTC)


I'm not sure what happened to the image. It was released publicly. Are you sure that someone can change or revoke licensing? Once it's out of the box...

That makes the whole flickr - wikipedia relationship rather flimsy and pointless, doesn't it? This was fully copyrighted and referenced. Image:Takashi_Murakami_c.jpg It is so frustrating! There was no discussion and no warning. --Knulclunk 15:03, 13 June 2007 (UTC)


Hi Mecu. I requested a flickr user to upload a copyrighted image under a CC license. This is what I sent to the user (cut down to show the main points):

Would it be alright if I upload that image under the Creative Commons Attribution 2.5 License ( This ensures that if anyone edits the image, you are credited as the owner of the photo.

Her reply was simply: "sure".

So would that be valid enough permission? Spellcast 14:44, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Ok I uploaded that image as Image:Busta Rhymes 2005.jpg, sent the permission transcript to and received a ticket number. Do I have to post the ticket number? Because the file is being proposed for deletion and a few people suspect it's still a copyvio. Spellcast 02:11, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
Yes, please post the OTRS ticket URL or number. Only authorized personnel have access to OTRS. Thanks!   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 16:29, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
Done! Spellcast 21:57, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
Great, thanks!   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 04:56, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Also a few days ago, I sent yet another permission transcript, but unlike the image above, I didn't receive a reply from commons with a ticket number. Since you are one of the trusted people with access to the OTRS, would you be able to reply to the email with a ticket number (if that's how the system works)? The email subject is "Flickr permission transcript" and it's regarding this image: Spellcast 10:59, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps they will have more to work with now that I have uploaded it as Image:The Steve with Hip-Hop Artist, The Game!.jpg.  :)   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 19:51, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

I just received a reply from Commons. I asked the author if it was ok if I uploaded it under CC-BY-SA-2.5 and he said it was fine as long as the article was "nowhere negative towards The Game or myself". Commons said that the article must be written from a NPOV, which may include negative things and so the permission isn't really valid enough. Anyway, better than not trying. So Mecu, you can go ahead and delete the image. Spellcast 09:24, 14 June 2007 (UTC)


Hello MECU

I know that Image:Ayuntamientobustarviejo.jpg was a copyright violation because I put the {{copyvio}} in the image. Thank you.--Durero 20:16, 13 June 2007 (UTC)


Good day, you marked this template as no longer valid. What license would you recommend using for public domain images from the Perry-Castañeda Library Map Collection? 08:58, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Re: Image Tagging Image:SunfishJelly.jpg

Yep, I know there's no permission archived as of yet - I just uploaded five images of sunfish dishes, and submitted email records for all five to the Foundation. Just waiting on someone to confirm this on the image pages. Thanks! PaladinWhite 23:40, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Hey, thanks for the tip on using {{otrs pending}}. I'm still pretty new at using the Commons, so it's good to know. I'll make sure and use it from now on. PaladinWhite 02:32, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Rotterdam Blitz

Hello MECU,

Could you please explain why Image:Rotterdam_2007_05_14.JPG has been removed?-- 05:07, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Per this log, it was deleted because it was "In category Unknown as of 5 June 2007; not edited for 10 days". See also this warning to the uploader.   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 09:41, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
It had no license. MECUtalk 14:13, 16 June 2007 (UTC)


Do not understand why you have marked Image:White_shark.jpg with a flicker warning, the actual owner of that page on flicker have ALSO uploaded it to english wikipedia and given it GDFL an CC 2.5 copyright, not 100% sure about pictures but for source code it is possible to distribute a picture under multiple different copyrights. 'Prof' that it is the same user, OK, do not have it 100% but this page on flicker at least shows that he is aware that it is uploaded on wikipedia [2]. So I guess this is my way of asking for you to take the flicker tag away or to educate me that it is impossible to have multiple copyrights on the same picture and help suggest a solution. (also the picture is about to become featured on en, so IF copyright status is a problem I guess it should be fixed before that). Stefan 06:14, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks then picture copyright works as for source code, now I feel a bit better ;-) Stefan 01:08, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Re: Image Tagging Image:Guile-title.jpg

Why ???, This image have license, look page Image:Guile-title.jpg, or GNU Project page

I corrected the license, is ok now? --Shooke 17:04, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

How did you get "Free art license", {{FAL}}, Category:Copyright-Copyleft, and Category:Copyright tag related images and logos from those referenced web pages? Please be specific. Thanks!   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 20:10, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
Again, I corrected license, See en:Image:Guile-title.jpg, this image from GNU Guile project (in have license [3], GNU General Public License V2 or later, because is former to files of projects.--Shooke 21:56, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
Question: If the license of image would be wrong, the license of images of the are like license of the image Image:Slackware distrowatch.png ?? --Shooke 22:17, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
Just because a software is under a free license doesn't mean the logo is too. Just because another image is here incorrectly, doesn't make it okay for more images to be here incorrectly either. MECUtalk 01:34, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Question regarding a flickr image

Hi Mecu, how's it going? I just thought I'd ask you something, since you're clued up on flickr licensing and such... I uploaded Image:Paul_Rudd.jpg to the Commons today from flickr (it's a cropped version of the original), and the uploader has licensed it cc-by-2.0. However, I just checked out their profile page, where they state "EVERYTHING IS COPYRIGHT>> trust me, you do not want to publish something copyrighted without permission.." So... does the user's word trump the license they've released the image under, or is it the other way around? I would appreciate you taking a look at this! If the image needs to be speedily deleted as a copyvio, please do so too... Cheers, riana_dzasta 00:07, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Hmm, OK, thanks (it was the caps that scared me :) ) Congratulations on your adminship on en, hope to see you around there too! Take care, riana_dzasta 05:50, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Adminship on English Wikipedia

Congrats, and good luck with your new tools!   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 21:15, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Forum Images

Hello MECU, I am trying to update an article on a proyect I work at, the Universal Forum of Cultures Monterrey 2007. I am trying to upload images to add to the article but they keep getting deleted over and over again. These images are all our property but can be used freely by any user, in relationship to the event. Please advise as this is getting rather frustrating. You can also view the english entry on wikipedia at Thank you Armontfort 00:14, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Is there any chance of removing the restriction "in relationship to the event" to even approach licensing consistent with Commons? Please see Commons:Licensing, and note that Commons does not allow fair use.   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 01:04, 24 June 2007 (UTC)


I have not even finished working on this image yet. Wikipedia will not implode if you wait even 15 minutes until I finish working on the image and its description and licensing. This is very threatening behavior by you. I suggest you wait for at least an hour before notifying users to problems. This type of aggressive behavior is guaranteed to make me stop even trying. --Robbie Love Giles 15:13, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

My point is you did not even give me a chance to address the problem myself. As soon as I was alerted to the problem, the image was gone. Speedy deletion is meant to give notice. How long from the time I uploaded until you deleted? I can't even tell, because you made all trace of it disappear. Why did you not give me an opportunity to address the problem first. At the very least, please review the Template:Copyvio which says:


If you disagree with its speedy deletion, please explain why on the image page, or its talk page.

If this page does not meet the criteria for speedy deletion, please remove this notice.

I understand that there is a new emphasis on free images, but your abrupt actions were rude and discourteous. I was still researching the image to see if the Idaho Potato Commission allows it to be freely used. I had determined this was not the case without specific clarification from them on the "promotion" permission at their site. I then returned to the image to find it already deleted. I did not have a chance to save any of the template information or categories I had added. Now when I get a free image from them (as I have requested) to upload, I have to start from scratch. So much for being bold. Maybe you should read up on Wikipedia:Assume good faith to see that some editors who make honest mistakes are not idiots or evil, and should be accorded a bit of courtesy. --Robbie Love Giles 20:42, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

PLEASE work out your licensing BEFORE uploading. Thanks!   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 01:06, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

How I can give the Logo authorization of tennis (Grand Slam) in Wikipedia of spanish

Commons I need to register the Logo authorization of the Opened ones of Tennis of Gland Slam of the following ones:

In each case of those Logos it would have to place the authorized image with fair uses or reserved rights, as I can remove a doubt to raise the image with fair uses in Spanish version of Wikipedia. This I need very important a consideration work of tennis?--Diego2891 19:42, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, you can't without permission sent to OTRS or evident on the websites of the championships about which you wish to write. Like Spanish Wikipedia, Wikimedia Commons also does not allow fair use.   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 01:09, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

OTRS ticket #2007062510009082

I handled this permission, and added the correct links to the images pages. -- Bryan (talk to me) 14:49, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

I don't have access to OTRS ;) I asked cary to close it, but apparently he didn't get my message... -- Bryan (talk to me) 18:26, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
Might I ask why you "don't have access to OTRS"?  :)   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 18:35, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Upload Uncylogo.png

"If you upload it again, you will be blocked". MECU.
I'm really sorry about it. Need help because I tried upload this image, and Battlestarwiki's logo too. This couple has been deleted because the same cause: the licence "restricted wiki projects use only" is not valide.
Can u help me? I'm user from Inciclopedia and Battlestar Wiki, and I like put on my User's page two templates about it: it's and Wiki it's.
Thanx for your help.
--Altayre 21:45, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Could you please

Could you please read this message for you? Thanx --Piolinfax (Tell me) 02:32, 29 June 2007 (UTC)


Please explain that was wrong witn this deleted picture in my talk page. Your previous comments, if any, are not visible for me because the image is deleted. If I have forgotten to put the license tag from myself, then please restore the picture, I grant GFDL. Audriusa 18:39, 29 June 2007 (UTC)