User talk:Magog the Ogre/Archive 17

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Uploaded images

Hi Magog! I uploaded two pictures that don't have the necessary licenses. I've just noticed it now, please delete them as soon as possible. I also have a question, if an author grants me personal permission to share a picture how can I make wikipedia know that so it doesn't get deleted? Picture to delete: Picture to delete:

Thanks in advance! PedroLopFonMarAlves (talk) 19:57, 4 December 2015 (UTC)

@PedroLopFonMarAlves: I have deleted the photographs. If you want to upload a photograph from someone else, it's best to follow the form here: Commons:Email templates. There are links for other languages at the top in case the recipient prefers a non-English variety. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 16:02, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
@Magog the Ogre: This is what I was looking for! I had the idea some kind of oficial declaration would be needed. Thanks a lot Magog! Cheers. PedroLopFonMarAlves (talk) 18:42, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

John F. Kennedy-Spencer Tracy

Hi Magog, nice to write to you again. Do you feel this image is free? (please, see also here). That being the case, which tag do you suggest? Thank you in advance for your cooperation. --Gabriel Sozzi (talk) 10:07, 8 December 2015 (UTC)

@Gabriel Sozzi The library states the copyright status is unknown. In other words, they have the image, but they do not know its source or who created it. Personally, I feel we should avoid uploading it per COM:PCP. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 04:10, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
Thank you, Magog, for the advice. Feel your words are wise. --Gabriel Sozzi (talk) 11:53, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

Couldn't tag File:Gráfico de votos para candidatos petistas a Prefeito de Porto Alegre, de 1985 a 2012.png

Dear Magog, on your question about the licensing of File:Gráfico de votos para candidatos petistas a Prefeito de Porto Alegre, de 1985 a 2012.png, I clarify that I have already provided the license in the file's page. Indeed, I couldn't find a proper tag for it in Commons:Copyright tags, though, so I wrote it in text form. Kind regards, --Usien6 (talk) 16:09, 8 December 2015 (UTC)

@Usien6 just "Copyleft" is probably too ambiguous for Commons. They don't really define what they mean anywhere, and there's no legal wording for the term, unlike for actual licenses like {{cc-by-sa}} or {{GFDL}}. It certainly doesn't help that it says "Direitos reservados" immediately after "Copyleft". If you think the authors might be willing to clarify their licensing, see Commons:OTRS/pt and/or Commons:Modelo de mensagem. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 04:17, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
Wow! That looks like a lot of bureaucracy! Thank you for your prompt answer. The "Direitos reservados" sayings don't help, indeed, and I've actually missed them: they only appear, once, in the footnote; while the "Copyleft" sayings appear twice. I could try to contact the journal asking for a clarification, but it doesn't seem to be worth the effort: it's just an ordinary graph, after all... By the way, does it meet the threshold of originality? Our colleague Vesa Linja-aho claims, in a slideshow he published in 2012, it doesn't (Slide 18: Diagrams, graphs, (...) are generally not subjects of copyright [under the Finnish law].) I'm not saying we must believe everything he says, but his claim makes a lot of sense and he has, at least, a published a book on the subject: this Teacher's Guide to intellectual property (isbn 978.951.792.468-9). So, well, what do you think we should do ?? Thank you once again, --Usien6 (talk) 18:57, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
@Usien6: most people don't like it, but the legal business is bureaucratic. And copyright is an entirely legal exercise. There is no getting around it. COM:PCP addresses this.
The graph is likely not copyrightable under Finnish or American law, but it is likely copyrighted under Brazilian law (see COM:TOO). If I were you, I would send them a request for permission to use the graph. Otherwise, you could fire up LibreOffice/MS Office/GIMP/MSPaint/etc. and create the map on your own. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 23:02, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

OgreBot 2 bug?

[1] please investigate why this happened. --Denniss (talk) 17:48, 11 December 2015 (UTC)

@Denniss: that wasn't a bug in Ogrebot 2, that was a bug in the uploader. The original text doesn't make any sense. Garbage in, garbage out. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 20:16, 11 December 2015 (UTC)


Hello Magog the Ogre,

you deleted File:Konrad_Wilhelm_von_Wernau_Wappen_Stift_Haug.jpg. But it had a Creative Commons license. Are not all licences suitable for commoms? --Der Buckesfelder  Talk  Evaluation  E-Mail  commons 09:04, 12 December 2015 (UTC)

No, the image was regrettably under the CC-BY-SA-NC license[2], which is not compatible with our licensing policy. Allowed CC licenses are: CC-0 (Zero), CC-BY and CC-BY-SA. --Túrelio (talk) 09:50, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for your reply. --Der Buckesfelder  Talk  Evaluation  E-Mail  commons 11:02, 12 December 2015 (UTC)

Screenshots, capturas de pantalla, et cetera

See Commons talk:File renaming#"Screen shot YYYY-MM-DD at". I suspect that your recent change to the title blacklist might make it harder to find copyvios if users can't use these file names. --Stefan2 (talk) 14:51, 12 December 2015 (UTC)

Kabota_13: Notification about possible deletion

Magog the Ogre,

Many thanks for your feedback. I suppose some troubles happend with the licensing of the images, I've posted in Wikipedia. I still can not understand, what's wrong with that.

Could you please kindly advise:

1) what license I should indicate, if an image has been scaned from a book?

2) what licence should be indicated, if an image has been taken from an outside web-site?

3) what license should be indicated, if the image has been taken from a family archive (provided by heirs)?

Many thanks in advance. Your advice is very appreciated.


Kabota_13 Kabota 13 (talk) 11:05, 7 December 2015 (UTC)


I have placed my explanation for each photo. Please take a look and help with the licensing.



— Preceding unsigned comment added by Kabota 13 (talk • contribs) 13:01, December 7, 2015‎ (UTC)
@Kabota 13: I will respond at Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Kabota 13. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 04:04, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

Got it. Thanks.


I did not get your help and all my photos have been deleted...

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Kabota 13 (talk • contribs) 23:18, December 14, 2015‎ (UTC)
@Kabota 13: I saw that, and I'm really sorry! I actually feel very bad about this deletion, worse than almost any other deletion, because I think your contributions were actually quite helpful. But it seemed like your images were not actually public domain, though. The ones you scanned from the book have a copyright which lasts for 70 years after the death of the photographer (or 74 years if the copyright fell to Russia and the photographer fought in the Great Patriotic War; 64 years if the copyright fell to Ukraine). If we don't know the author, then they just become public domain 70 years after initial publication. That is why we asked about the author.
As for family archives, again, the photographer is the copyright owner, unless the photographer was working for someone else. For example, if these were taken by a member of the Soviet armed forces as part of their duty, then the copyright may have already expired. If you could ascertain the date the photograph was taken and who you think took it, that would be really helpful.
If you genuinely don't have any idea who the photographer is and there is absolutely no way we'll ever know, I will ask around to see if there's not something we can do about it. It will get a bit more complicated in that situation.
I do still think we can salvage this situation. Again, thanks very much for your patience; we very much appreciate your contributions. Face-smile.svg Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 23:32, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

Upload Deletion

Hi, how are you? Yes, it seems perfect you nomines it for deletion. But I understand that this image had already been deleted previously. I don't know how it was recovered. But yes, it should be deleted because it had already been previously deleted for lack of data. In addition, I think either you deleted it, because while I drew it, it left me quite ugly, ha ha ha!!! Best regards!!! --Diego HC (talk) 05:31, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

@Diego HC: ¿por casualidad conoces bien la ley argentina sobre los derechos de autor, o conoces a alguien que la conozca? Estamos discutiendo las imágenes en Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Association football logos of Chubut Province en inglés pero no podemos averiguar el umbral de creatividad en Argentina. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 23:19, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

File:Jakab Zoltán.jpg


image extraction process This file has been extracted from another file: Nagybányai csoportkép.jpg
original file

Tambo (talk) 06:04, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

@Tambo: here is the license: [3]. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 23:52, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

i had authorization to use a picture from the author by mail... how can i prove it ?


you informed me that pictures i uploaded got no proofs enough about copyrights..

i had a mail by the author to authorise me for a wikipedia use..

how can i proove that ?

if you can teach me, thanks..


— Preceding unsigned comment added by Alsublieft (talk • contribs) 08:00, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
@Alsublieft: see Commons:Email templates (English) / Commons:Messages type (français). Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 14:55, 19 December 2015 (UTC)


Why did you leave a note on my wall? The image File:Nethack falcons eye class selection.png had a license tag from the beginning. SharkD  Talk  03:26, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

@SharkD: no it did not, and it still doesn't. It has a link to an article on Wikipedia about the product. You'll want to create a new template; you could base it on {{WTFPL}}. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 03:35, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
It is NetHack General Public License, can't you see? THAT IS THE LICENSE. Okay I see now. Give me a minute. SharkD  Talk  03:37, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
Okay, here is information regarding the license: [4] SharkD  Talk  03:43, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
@SharkD: You can use {{NetHack}}. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 03:57, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
@Magog the Ogre: It's a free screenshot though. Wouldn't it be better to use the Free Screenshot template? Isn't that its purpose? SharkD  Talk  04:01, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
@SharkD: {{Free screenshot|license={{NetHack}}}} Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 04:25, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
Okay thanks. SharkD  Talk  07:51, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

My photo's titles

Hi, Magog;

Thank you very much to have point my mistake and errors on titles of my photos contributions. Factually, I'm starting to rename these files, and I hope that's finest this one.

Well, I wish you happy new year's days and best Christmas; Very best regards;

Ruyblas13 (talk) 10:44, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

@Ruyblas13: you as well! Thanks for the response. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 00:20, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

categories to be excluded

Hi Magog, first, best Season's Greatings!

If and whe you have time, could you please add to OgreBots script, as regards Category:Luxembourg, the following additional exclusion criteria which create lots of false positives:

| Category:Cultural heritage monuments in Belgium | Category:Internal Schengen borders | Category:Things named after Charles IV, Holy Roman Emperor | Category:Saarland Category:Euro

Many thanks in advance, and best regards, --Zinneke (talk) 10:41, 25 December 2015 (UTC)

@Zinneke: ✓ Done I see also that you'd left me a note at User talk:OgreBot/gallery. If you leave me a ping, I will see the note more easily. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 17:40, 25 December 2015 (UTC)

Upload Deletion (2)

Hi! How are you? Look, I know a National Copyright law (11723 on public domain pictures published in Argentina), indicating that if an author photograph, that image recognized as such until after the 25 years of taking that picture. From there, already the image happens to be public domain, so that any citizen can use it without having to request authorization. That's what I know about the law regarding photographs. About logos and others, I understand that are in the public domain, since its authors leave them free to do so. I hope you have been helpful my message. Greetings and successes in the discussion. Ah! And Merry Christmas and new year! Greetings once again. --Diego HC (talk) 20:42, 25 December 2015 (UTC)

@Diego HC: Merry Christmas. According to {{PD-Argentina}}, photographs are public domain 25 years after they were taken and 20 years after they were published, whichever happens latest. From en:List of countries' copyright lengths, you can see that, if the copyright belongs to an individual, its persists for 70 years after the individual's death. If it belongs to an institution, it persists 50 years after the author's death. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 19:11, 27 December 2015 (UTC)

Notification about copyright

I'm new here, so could you please tell me what I have to do in order to change the state of copyright in the two photos I!ve recently published? Thank you so much Carlaindennidate Carlaindennidate (talk) 19:54, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

@Carlaindennidate: do you have the rights to release the photographs to the public? If so, then you can add a license as found at Commons:Copyright tags. If not, then you'll need to get permission from the rights holders. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 18:51, 27 December 2015 (UTC)

About File:Mapa de 'El Fortín de Sta. Rosa'.png

Hello, sorry for my bad english. The photo called 'Mapa de "El Fortín de Sta. Rosa".png' is an edited Google Maps screenshot. The locality 'Fortín' is a very small place. So small, that Google Maps don't show the streets names, squares names, neither shows too short streets.

Therefore, I decided edit a Google Maps screenshot, and add the street names, the missing streets, squares, etc. I thought a photo, with a half of mine job, I was able upload in Wikimedia. Is not like this?


— Preceding unsigned comment added by AlowMARTIN (talk • contribs) 22:32, December 29, 2015‎ (UTC)
@AlowMARTIN: No podemos aceptar esa imagen aunque la editaste. Véte Commons:Trabajos derivados. Si quieres utilizar un mapa, puedes copiar de o y mencionar que los autores son los colaboradores de OpenStreetMap.
Déjame saber si tienes preguntas. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 02:45, 29 December 2015 (UTC)

FOP Cuba

Why can I not use this permission for paintings permanently installed in a hotel in cuba: {{FoP-Cuba}} Wmpearl (talk) 04:34, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

@Wmpearl: You will need to provide a license to your photograph. The FoP-Cuba tag only explains the license of the original work within the derivative. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 05:25, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

Why not clearly copyright?

File:Tn 545 vintage mission side.jpg, File:Tn rb5012qn.jpg and File:Tn 3115.jpg are all exact copies with the same file names from The Amish Store. How much more copyright can you get than that? Secondarywaltz (talk) 06:53, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

@Secondarywaltz: those files have been on Wikimedia for 8 years now. I can only see the Amish Store on the internet archive for 5 years. It also seems likely to me that this is the the uploader is the same person who owns the site, given that he is expert enough to start the English Wikipedia article on the subject ([5]). Please nominate for deletion. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 07:11, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
OK. So this "expert" only used those small poor quality images, when they presumably had access to all the original photographs. Right!! Since you have chosen to dispute this, I will just leave these weeds to wither. Secondarywaltz (talk) 18:04, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

Eliminación imagenes

Porque quieres eliminar las imágenes que subí. Son una edición que hice yo de las imágenes. Simplemente quería refrescar las páginas con nuevas fotografías. Carlita112001 (talk) 16:49, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

@Carlita112001: no creaste las imágenes originales, y por eso no tienes el derecho a publicarlas. Por favor, lee Commons:Trabajos derivados. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 17:36, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

Happy New Year!

Pyro wiki.JPG Fireworks from the Philippines to celebrate 2016
Happy New Year Magog the Ogre! I hope you still do your great work in 2016! Face-smile.svg Poké95 03:42, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

File:VITSORIS-1.jpg. etc

Let start with Happy New Year. Now, as per Greek Law, after 70 years of author dead, his paints/sculptors etc are in Public domain. This artist died in 1945. Best regards. Macedon-40 (talk) 10:48, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

Migration review?

Any idea why this and similar edits to my recent uploads? - Jmabel ! talk 01:55, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

@Jmabel: I was not aware that cc-by-4.0 was considered redundant. I will fix that in the bot now. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 03:32, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

Shapur II

Hello Magog

I'm kinda curious/don't get if - if the picture is copyrighted, then what does that "Out of Copyright" mean when you search for a picture in Bridgeman Images? Btw, is it ok to upload this picture [6]? it says "Some rights reserved"--HistoryofIran (talk) 13:16, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

@HistoryofIran: where do you see "out of copyright" on this page? I don't see that, but I do see an invitation to buy a license to use the image, which is wholly inconsistent with "out of copyright." Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 04:44, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

If you click on "All Content" which is to the right of the search button, then you can click on "out of copyright." --HistoryofIran (talk) 14:04, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

Soooo... I guess that still makes the picture copyrighted or...? --HistoryofIran (talk) 13:38, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

@HistoryofIran: sorry, I missed your initial response. This is... confusing. I'll leave a post on the noticeboard asking some other users what they think. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 14:05, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

Page - JayShaz


I have uploaded page of my own profile just for test and i got notice for copyright violation.

I apologize for that and i wanted to remove that page please help me how can do that.

I am getting notices from Magog the Ogre. ...............................................

Username : JayShaz  

Page name: JayShaz

Magog the Ogre


— Preceding unsigned comment added by JayShaz (talk • contribs) 06:39, 04 January 2016 (UTC)

Copyright status: File:Clarinet-horiz.png

This file is the same as File:Clarinet.png, only rotated for 90 degrees. I don't understand the license problem. How could it be an issue? Could you tell me what I shall do? Regards, Trace (talk) 08:03, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

@Trace: you'll want to include the license template on each of your uploads like this. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 13:55, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
Thank you. Trace (talk) 20:35, 4 January 2016 (UTC)


Hallo Magog the Ogre,

do you have an idea how pictures like File:Bujáki remetelak.jpg, File:Zaragoza - Basílica del Pilar y río Ebro.jpg and File:Canons russes sur rocher Corneille.jpeg do end up in Category:Pigeons to be shown on User:PigeonIP/Tauben/2016 January 1-10? I expected something like Category:Holy Spirit depicted as a dove but can't find the root. --PigeonIP (talk) 13:02, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

@PigeonIP: this happens from time to time with galleries. If you are curious, you'll want to check toollabs:magog/category-files-blame.php. In this case, you can see from here that the link was Category:Sculptures of the Holy Trinity => Category:Sculptures of the Holy Spirit as a dove. I will opt out Category:Sculptures of the Holy Trinity for you. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 13:43, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
Thank you very much. These galleries are very helpful. --PigeonIP (talk) 13:44, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
Better yet, I reshuffled the categories, which are backwards. Face-smile.svg Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 13:45, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

File:Flandrensisian wapen.png

Hi! Can you please read again the description of the license there. It is in public domain according to the constitution. Please, remove the template. --Ochilov (diskuto) 05:39, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

@Ochilov: you may remove the template yourself after you have added the templated license (each file requires a templated license, not a text license). I have done it for you this time. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 05:44, 8 January 2016 (UTC)
Thank you very much! --Ochilov (diskuto) 05:56, 8 January 2016 (UTC)


Hello sir I want to upload the logo of Nepali wikiquote which I prepared through the Adobe photoshop from the image [[File:Wikiquote-logo.svg]].which License should I give.-BRPever (talk) 06:13, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

@BRPever: sorry I missed your email. I would recommend {{Copyright by Wikimedia}}. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 23:17, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
thanks-BRPever (talk) 02:11, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

About my photos

Dear Magog, the author of the pictures you have asked about has informed me that he has send an e-mail to confirming these pictures may be uploaded to Wikimedia Commons under a CC 4.0 license. Emmenaar (talk) 20:58, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

@Emmenaar: I've tagged the images. If the OTRS permission is not confirmed after a certain period, the images will be deleted. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 21:03, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

File:Artist,Lily Elise.jpg

According to § 201(a), Ownership of copyright, described within Title 17, chapter 2, of the Copyright Act, " a work protected under this title vests initially in the author or authors of the work." Further, according to Justice Thurgood Marshall in the case, Community for Creative Non-Violence v. Reid, which outlines a majority view on the definition of the term, author, "As a general rule, the author is the party who actually creates the work, that is, the person who translates an idea into a fixed, tangible expression entitled to copyright protection." Now, I took and own this photo. In fact, I took it on July 8, 2015 with my gold iPhone 6. When uploading this image I was prompted to state the author of the image. I selected myself. Further, I selected the appropriate license which I chose to be, a fairly broad use of this image. So, I'm really quite baffled as to why this image has a ton of infringement postings attributed to it. Again, I am the author of this image as defined by numerous court cases and according to § 201(a) of the Copyright Act. Thus, if there is a "tagging" issue, which would be quite frustrating as WikiMedia Commons should make that clear upon upload, then please let me know how to properly edit the image as there is absolutely NO copyright infringement occurring here.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Lilyelisevocals (talk • contribs) 23:14, January 16, 2016‎ (UTC)
@Lilyelisevocals: sorry for the confusion! It looks like we got a little overzealous and there was a mixup in your case, and your file was deleted prematurely. Please understand that we're badly understaffed on this project, so mistakes like this are bound to happen.
Anyway, we do still request that you can provide proof of authorship since the image was published elsewhere first. I have left a note on your talk page explaining how you can do so. It shouldn't take more than a few minutes to complete.
Let me know if you have any questions. Thanks again for your patience. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 23:25, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
This image is still included in my contributions as an active file with a "notice" of impending deletion due to permission issues on it. I actually just uploaded a more hi-res version of the image. The issue I'm now having is that It is extremely unclear as to how to add the appropriate license to the pre-existing file. When I go to the image, there are no areas within which to apply an edits. I believe the appropriate "license" tag is {{self|GFDL|Cc-by-sa-4.0,3.0,2.5,2.0,1.0}}. Can you explain to me how, specifically, to apply this tag to the file once it's uploaded?
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Lilyelisevocals (talk • contribs) 23:58, January 16, 2016‎ (UTC)
@Lilyelisevocals: Copy this exact text and add it to the description page beneath the information template: {{self|GFDL|Cc-by-sa-4.0,3.0,2.5,2.0,1.0}}. This will not make the problem templates automatically disappear from the page or from your talk page; those have to be removed manually. In this case, I tagged the image as missing proof of permission because we found it on a third-party site. If you could send us a private email from an official address, then someone will remove that template from the file page. After we've done that, feel free to remove the warnings from your talk page. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 00:04, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

This is not a violation

The crest of team was changed , and I created the page Unirea Ion Roată, who would you like to update their all ? Alike in case of Unirea Urziceni and Unirea Slobozia , the crests had changed. Instead appreciate the work, you just delete ... So please do not delete and understand me ! Here is nothing bad.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Ian Rush-Gerrard (talk • contribs) 08:19, January 17, 2016‎ (UTC)
@Ian Rush-Gerrard: even if you used a program to draw the crests, the original design belongs to the sports club. We don't accept fair use on Commons. Please see Commons:Fair use (English) / Commons:Utilizare cinstită (română). We've explained this all to you under your previous account. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 20:56, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
I have no idea why I was pinged here. - Jmabel ! talk 23:40, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
@Jmabel: oops. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 04:01, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

More sock puppets uploading Maiko photos?

Hi. I noticed you recently blocked a number of accounts as Sockpuppets of Haruo.takagi. Given the timing and identical styles, I was also suspicious about all the new accounts suddenly appearing to re-upload images previously uploaded by KyotoFlowertourism. Anyway, a number of new accounts have since been created to continue their work (Na.Mizuno, T.watasan, Takehiro Fujisawa, Tigertakashi). I have tagged these accounts as suspected sock puppets, but you may wish to have a look and possibly block the IP to prevent further account creations, if that is possible. Thanks. --DAJF (talk) 10:40, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

@DAJF: thanks for the note. I've blocked a bunch more.[7] I don't have a clue what this guy/gal's doing; the uploads don't seem disruptive in and of themselves (although I could be missing the point). The multiple accounts are what I blocked him/her for. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 20:44, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
Hi. Thanks. My understanding is that that KyotoFlowertourism uploaded a whole bunch of photos late last year taken by various photographers at photo sessions he/she organizes. These were all deleted as not having permission from the individual photographers, and he/she was recommended to get the actual photographers to contact OTRS to verify permission in future. The same photos were then re-uploaded (by the various sock-puppets) in the past few days with exactly the same file names (which is why I spotted them immediately) and identical styles, so presumably KyotoFlowertourism just thought it would be easier than going through the OTRS process. It's a shame, as the images would be welcome on Commons if only their authors can be reliably confirmed. Anyway, thanks. --DAJF (talk) 23:13, 17 January 2016 (UTC)


File:גנרל ג'ייקוב (General JFR Jacob) מדליק חנוכיה בביתו.JPG

Now it's all right? --חיים נהר (talk) 17:18, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

@Geagea: can you help? Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 18:33, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
עברית: שלום חיים נהר,

בקובץ שהעלית היו שתי בעיות. אחת תיקנת (הוספת רישיון) והשני לא. נצטרך לקבל אישור מיוצר התמונה (הרב שניאור קופצ'יק?) על פי ההנחיות בויקיפדיה:OTRS. ת-- Geagea (talk) 06:56, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

תודה. בטיפול. --חיים נהר (talk) 21:03, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

יוצר התמונה שלח מייל לכתובת: ‫‬. עכשיו זה בסדר? --חיים נהר (talk) 08:14, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Image question

Greetings Magog,

I noticed you did some changes to a few files such as this one. Do you do that based on a regex script or is that just a manual thing? Also, the weblink that lists is broken. Would it be appropriate for me to just replace it with the new one or should I retain the old one somehow for historical purposes. Reguyla (talk) 20:43, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

Also, I can't edit ENWP as you probably know. If someone wants to add the Now commons template to the files I have migrated they can be found at Category:Files uploaded by Reguyla. Also a lot of articles could stand to have the Commons category template added on the appropriate individuals articles.Reguyla (talk) 20:52, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
@Reguyla: see User:Magog the Ogre/cleanup.js. The "JS" version is there for help, but I do not take feature requests for it anymore and will only fix really bad bugs. The "TS" version is less aggressive and slower but much better maintained. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 23:25, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
Great thanks. Reguyla (talk) 00:09, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

Page Hondupedia

Hello Magog,

I noticed I was suspended due to copyright violation, I tried uploading the files and giving copyrights as I thought they were fit, nevertheless apparantly I am doing it wrong. Can you guide me in how to format the pictures to avoid this problem???

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Hondupedia (talk • contribs) 14:52, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
@Hondupedia: Sí, te puedo ayudar. Gracias por contestar. Estas tres cosas son las más importantes para usuarios nuevos del Wikipedia en espaňol:
  • Si encuentras una imagen en el internet, casi nunca es aceptable subirla en Commons. Hay ciertas excepciones: algunas de Flickr tienen licencias libres que sí se pueden usar. Este es un ensayo que tenemos en inglés: Commons:Flickr files.
  • Ni la Wikipedia en español ni Commons permiten el uso legítimo. Esto significa que no puedes subir los logotipos que encuentres en la Wikipedia en inglés.
  • Hay ciertos logotipos que son muy sencillos que sí se permiten porque son bajo la umbral de originalidad. Si sigues a esa enlace, verás unos ejemplos.
Si tienes una pregunta, no dudes en preguntármela. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 00:38, 26 January 2016 (UTC)

Could you fix and restore File:Moeda50AnosBC.png ??

Dear Magog, I see the File:Moeda50AnosBC.png was unlinked from ptwiki after you deleted it. It seems the uploader has marked it as "own work", which is, obviously, not the case. If I provide you the correct metadata, could you fix and restore the file?

  • Source:
  • Author: [[:en:Central Bank of Brazil|Banco Central do Brasil]]
  • License:
    É permitida a reprodução total ou parcial sem fins lucrativos do conteúdo deste site, preservada a integridade das informações e citada a fonte. É autorizada também a inserção, em outros sites, de links para o site do Banco Central do Brasil.[8]

Thanks!! --Usien6 (talk) 20:31, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

PS.: I mean, if you can and don't mind. I wonder if I sounded rude, which was not the intent. I am not really used to anglophone politeness. Neither to inner workings of the Commons project. Sorry if I did --Usien6 (talk) 21:00, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
@Usien6: Given my Spanish, I know just enough Portuguese to be dangerous. Still, I think sem fins lucrativos means without commercial use, which is an unacceptable condition according to COM:L. I also don't think that {{Money-BR}} applies to the image. Let me know if I'm mistaken. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 00:27, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
You are right. --Usien6 (talk) 14:02, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

Improvements ideas for User:Magog the Ogre/PD ineligible

Thank you for great tool!

I think will be good idea to add file and uploader name; to sort files inside days by uploader, and then by file name; for bitmap images it'll be great to have indication of {{Convert to SVG}} and {{Use TeX}}; to add update button and updates counter; indication of deletion/no permissions/etc temaplates.

EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:20, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

@EugeneZelenko: maybe some day. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 00:46, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

File:South African House of Assembly 1933.svg

I do not understand what is unclear about the copyright status. It clearly states it is my own work and is published under CC0 Universal Public Domain Dedication. (Please notify me when there is a reply) MB298 (talk) 04:53, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

@MB298: that one was tagged in error. Please accept my apologies. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 04:54, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

Democratic colors changed for clarity

Hello, thanks for the Edit on de.WP. Clarity I think is unfortunately not. Clinton in the File:Democratic Party presidential primaries results by county, 2016.svg it has Color:gold. In the File:Democratic Party presidential primaries results, 2016.svg ist has Col--Sarkana frag den ℑ Vampir 19:18, 5 February 2016 (UTC)or:#d2b55b - i think consistency would be better.

@Sarkana: which color do you think Bernie should be? Should he be green to match en:Democratic Party presidential primaries, 2016? You can change if you want or just ask me to. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 22:35, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
Magog the Ogre: yes, i think green (color:#228b22) is most sense. Then he to match to en:Template:Democratic Party presidential primaries, 2016. And i can not edit an SVG-File. :(--Sarkana frag den ℑ Vampir 15:21, 7 February 2016 (UTC)


Hello, Special:Contributions/Fennoscandic seems to be WPK, so he should be blocked. --Stryn (talk) 15:31, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

Licence of a picture.


I've uploaded a picture yesterday. I did this after I got permission of the author of the picture by mail. I wrote this in my native language (Dutch) at the 'Permission section' of the picture.

Since I have permission to use the picture on wikipedia by the owner, how can I make sure the picture will not be deleted in 7 days?

Sincerely Berzecker (talk) 10:24, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

@Berzecker: Images that are for Wikipedia use are not accepted on Commons, so please ask permission from the author to license their picture under a free license compatible with Commons. Thanks, Poké95 11:38, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
@Berzecker: Pokefan95 is correct. Please see Commons:Email templates, which also has a translation for other languages. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 23:30, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

Nationalistic POV


There is no such thing as 'Southern Azerbaijan', this user is clearly pov pushing. Could you take a close look on this? would be great. --HistoryofIran (talk) 23:25, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

@HistoryofIran: See COM:ANU#User adding categories for fringe territory Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 16:45, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

File tagging help needed

I wanted to ask you for help regarding proper tagging for files Central Library of Serbs of Croatia 1.jpg and Central Library of Serbs of Croatia 2.JPG. I would appreciate if you can spend some of your time to give me instructions what shall be done in order to tagg files appropriately. I wanted to ask if it would be fine if massage from library email (that can be find at official web page) is sent to . Also, I wanted to ask if we maybe have some template for email (or at least "must have" info) that they should send since it might be much more simple for people who work in library?--MirkoS18 (talk) 17:11, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

@MirkoS18: A good start is here: Commons:Email templates. It doesn't look like we have a Croatian translation, so you might have to go off a similar language like Slovakian and translate on your own. Let me know if you have any further questions. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 18:09, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

Migration review?

Any idea why? CC-BY-4.0 is pretty darn current. (I actually meant to do Cc-by-sa-4.0 and I'll go back and fix that, but that's neither here nor there.) - Jmabel ! talk 17:19, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

@Jmabel: I still haven't gotten around to fixing the bug because of the way that it's coded. Sorry; I will get to that in the next week. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 17:34, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
You probably already know this, but it's still happening. - Jmabel ! talk 01:19, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
@Jmabel: yes, I will get it by this weekend. Again, this is not as simple as a fix as it sounds. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 02:01, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
Your bot should be marking files that are licensed under GFDL and CC-BY-SA-4.0/CC-BY-4.0 as redundant for license migration, not ineligible nor review. Poké95 11:43, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
@Jmabel, Pokéfan95: I believe this is fixed. Please inform me if you see any issues. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 02:25, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
Will do. - Jmabel ! talk 04:44, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

Jermboy - this is a static IP that JB27 has used for almost a year, so a year block would be the thing. INeverCry 08:03, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

@INeverCry: mole whacked. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 03:40, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
I don't know if you've done it before, but one of these days you should do an edit check on one of JB27's /16s. I checked edits on a good 20+ of these ranges, and the only IP edits for the full 3 months were roadsigns-related... I don't know if my pages are still up on, but I listed a dozen or so soft 3 or 6 month /16 range blocks I did. This was the only way I ever saw months go by with no JB27 edits except an occasional sock acct and a few phoney unblock requests. Him and Isechika are relentless... Face-tongue.svg INeverCry 04:16, 16 February 2016 (UTC)


Thank u.. But I don't know what it is that I need to do to make the page look good and professional.. Thank u.. Djcastaneda2003 (talk) 04:37, 18 February 2016 (UTC)

Your Special Jobs

Hey, You Need to Block User:Markuko Account Indefinite from editing Commons and Deleted Markuko Files who Uploaded it —Preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 20:36, February 18, 2016‎ (UTC)

I gave him another request to contribute content which is, uh, more educational. Such users are often in the habit of "not seeing" the original request. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 05:11, 20 February 2016 (UTC)

George Ezra

Hola, Magog

espero que te encuentres bien y feliz día de la amistad. Te contacto para ver si por favor puedes verificar a través de OTRS la imagen de George Ezrea. El archivo está alojado en Flickr; hablando con la usuaria permitió que usáramos la imagen con una de las licencias Creative Commons. Ella me envió el mensaje en el que aceptaba y adjuntó la imagen original en un correo electrónico. Hice hice una captura también del FlickrMail cuando le pido cambiar la licencia. Saludos --C. Jonel [talk] 01:04, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

@C. Jonel: Hola, estoy bien, ¿y tú? Es una pena pero la mensaje no me parece suficiente. Nunca escogió una licencia, y apenas acordó a la petición original. Te envié el texto estándar sobre las imágenes de Flickr. Tal vez pudieras pedirle de nuevo que cambie la licencia. Si no lo quieres hacer, me encataría hacerlo. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 03:37, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
Estoy bien Magog. Siempre pido a los usuarios de Flickr cambiar la licencia a una de las dos que acepta Commons, en esa oportunidad la usuaria no quiso cambiar la licencia en Flickr pero si nos permitió subir la imagen a "Wikipedia" como dice ella, claro sin especificar una licencia, aunque en un mensaje le comenté que debía hacerlo al enviarme la foto. Tristemente se le pasó. Adelante, puedes contactar a la usuaria. Entiendo que es un proceso un poco delicado. :) C. Jonel [talk] 03:54, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
@C. Jonel: ✓ Done le envié la petición. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 05:08, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
@C. Jonel: el autor ha dicho que no comunicó contigo pero no cambiará la licencia. Face-confused.svg Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 22:36, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
¡Que! ¿en realidad dijo que no hablamos? si estuvimos conversando por Flickr. Antes de enviarme la imagen al correo me escribió en Flickr: "Sorry, not changing the license on Flickr. If you want the photo i can e-mail it to you FOC and you can put it on Wikipedia.Just let me know." Le di la dirección de mi correo electrónico en mi último mensaje: "It's okay. You can send the image to the mail with a message that you tell us we can use the image in the different versions of Wikipedia with CC-BY (Attribution) or CC-BY-SA (Attribution Share-Alike), without change in Flickr. If you want you can also attach images of artists like Adele, Sam Smith, John Newman, among others, really We would appreciate your cooperation, this is not for us, it is for all readers accessing Wikipedia. Thank you.. Send it as a message, I have not dropbox account, sorry. :( ..
Como dos días después recibí el correo con la imagen, que si te fijas no es la misma que estaba en Flickr, es la original, porque no está editada con el nombre de la autora. Está bien, que cosas Face-grin.svg ahora inventé una novela en mi cabeza. Face-smile.svg Gracias de todas formas Magog. --C. Jonel [talk] 02:07, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
@C. Jonel: ay, me equivoqué; mi proficiencia es mala. Dijo que sí comunicó contigo. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 02:16, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
Jejeje.. ¡Quieres que muera de un susto! Face-grin.svg ¿Pero no accedió a cambiarla? Face-sad.svg Desde un principio no quiso cambiarla en Flickr, pero pensé que con su correo electrónico si quiso cambiarla o hacer como si no existiera en Flickr, no sé, ahora estoy confundido. --C. Jonel [talk] 02:26, 21 February 2016 (UTC)


Hi, I've just uploaded two files. Please, check it. Thanks.

--Regasterios (talk) 22:50, 20 February 2016 (UTC)

@Regasterios: I don't think so. See COM:ART#Photograph of an old coin found on the Internet. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 23:18, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
Ok. Please, delete them. --Regasterios (talk) 23:29, 20 February 2016 (UTC)

Premature state adding to Trump in 2016 republican primaries

You updated an image of trump winning South Carolina when it hasn't been finalized yet. What is the point on that? It's still going. —Preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 01:36, February 21, 2016‎ (UTC)

I did this because it was called by the major news outlets. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 01:43, 21 February 2016 (UTC)


Coat of arms, banner, or emblem of Mexico, one of its states, municipalities, or any other political subdivision, or a similar distinctive symbol belonging to an international or "recognized" organization, or NGO, operating in or outside of Mexico. According to Mexican copyright law, article 14 subparagraph VII these coats of arms are not eligible for protection under the federal copyright law. --Espíritu nocturno (talk) 16:10, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

Why File:Uac.gif or File:Escudo-UNAM-escalable.svg exist on commons? --Espíritu nocturno (talk) 16:32, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

Ley de Derechos de Autor en México: Las reproducciones o imitaciones, sin autorización, de escudos, banderas o emblemas de cualquier país, estado, municipio o división política equivalente, ni las denominaciones, siglas, símbolos o emblemas de organizaciones internacionales gubernamentales, no gubernamentales, o de cualquier otra organización reconocida oficialmente, así como la designación verbal de los mismos

@Espíritu nocturno: Fue un error. Leí la licencia incorrectamente. Por favor acepta mis disculpas. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 03:16, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
Thank you! Gracias! --Espíritu nocturno (talk) 06:10, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

Adding licenses

Magog, thanks for adding the licenses for File:Shuttle Atlantis landing at Edwards AFB after STS-27 (STS027-S-014).jpg and File:Shuttle Atlantis landing at Edwards AFB after STS-27 (STS027-S-012).jpg, I went full-bore mouth-drooling stupid when I uploaded them! Huntster (t @ c) 05:04, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

Harishk.its : Mobile Tower Fraud

Term upwest advertisment.jpg ; This is a Public Notice issued by TERM Cell , DOT UP(West) India is leading newspapers on the issue of Mobile Tower Fraud which is a popular Mass marketing Fraud in India. There is not issue of copyright or violation.

HARISH ADD.jpg These are the advertisement being public in local newspaper .. something which is available in public domain. These are the classified advertisement being issued by the fraudster. The advertisements has been collected by me.

FICTITIOUS DOCS MOBILE TOWER FRAUD.pdf This file is removed due notification on fair use. This pdf file is the scan of documents which are in my possession. These were the letters sent by the fraudsters to the victim. The Name Address of the victim has been omitted from the documents. The victim do not know what to believe. In such case this document is crucial.

Please reconsider your decision on above files. with regards

harish Kumar

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Harishk.its (talk • contribs) 11:03, February 18, 2016 (UTC)
@Harishk.its: A page which is published is not in the public domain until several decades after it is published. It may be an important issue, but we'd like to communicate it using free media and free text. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 05:16, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
File 'HARISH ADD.jpg' was created by me using the mobile tower advertisements by fraudsters. The file was having he clippings from various newspaper.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Harishk.its (talk • contribs) 15:51, February 26, 2016‎ (UTC)
@Harishk.its: please read COM:DW. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 21:59, 28 February 2016 (UTC)


Hi Magog, Just curious-- how do you make/compile the county-level maps recording primary election results? I'd like to know for personal reference.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Aidansi384 (talk • contribs) 13:31, March 2, 2016‎ (UTC)

Many thanks.

I was also wondering where you got the Alaskan borough data for the 2016 GOP county map. Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment was added by 2602:306:8bc6:1620:c2f:e17a:ec5a:ba6f (talk) 21:10, March 3, 2016‎ (UTC)
@Aidansi384: I get the data from any number of sites on the internet like HuffPo, Washington Post, Politico, NYT, Fox News, etc. The map source is listed in the source field.
@2602:306:8bc6:1620:c2f:e17a:ec5a:ba6f: you'll need to ask User:Ali Zifan, who added it. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 23:14, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

Re: File:Zehutlogo.png

Magog hi,

I read that an image that only consists of simple geometric shapes or text does not meet the threshold of originality needed for copyright protection, and is therefore in the public domain. I have seen the same license used for other logos of Israeli political parties.

Is this still true? Can Zehutlogo.png be published under the same terms?

Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 13:05, March 4, 2016‎ (UTC)

Yes, that should work. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 22:20, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

File:Dariusz Stola.jpg

It is a cropped version of another file in the commons. --Eingangskontrolle (talk) 11:50, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

@Eingangskontrolle: did you read the message on your talk page? Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 22:18, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
Copied the licence from the larger version. --Eingangskontrolle (talk) 09:47, 5 March 2016 (UTC)
Great, thanks. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 15:14, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

Cleanup of Flickr template usage

Hi Magog the Ogre, i found several errors in files with the {{flickr}} template that maybe could be repaired by your OgreBot 2. For example i often saw {{flickr| or non-standard date values of the taken parameter. Do you think it is a good idea to run your bot over all that files? If so, can you do that?--Arnd (talk) 15:34, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

@Aschroet: which files? Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 00:33, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
Magog the Ogre, I thought we could cleanup all files that use the flickr template which is a number of around 30k. --Arnd (talk) 06:19, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
@Aschroet: I will get this but it's on the backburner. It might take a few months. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 03:21, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

Response to Magog the Ogre's request for deletion of an upload

Hi Magog, I posted a reply on my talk page. Thank you, Peggy O'BrienPeggy O'Brien (talk) 12:54, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

Unblock Miste nate

Hello Magog the Ogre, I have Miste nate at the Portuguese wikipedia, which appears to be within the Angola block range, asking to be unblocked here, would that be possible?--- Darwin Ahoy! 16:42, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

I see he somehow managed to upload *things*... I'll orient him at the Portuguese Wikipedia about what Commons is for.--- Darwin Ahoy! 16:44, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
@Darwinius: if you click on a user's contributions, and then click user rights management, there is a box for IP block exempt. You can check that and a user should be able to edit. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 01:21, 17 March 2016 (UTC)