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pfctdayelise (translate?) 11:46, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Greek vases pics

Hi, I notice you submitted a deletion request about Image:Griechen52.jpg, it being a 3D vase reproduction. I cannot but agree. All vases being 3D, shouldn't Image:Griechen31.jpg, Image:Griechen21.jpg and so on deleted as well? Jastrow 14:48, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Hello, no. Not all. "Vase" is an archeological terminus technicus and means all what have to do with greek kitchenware pottery. Also flat bowls. And the Pictures there are 2D. So please only one deletion. Kenwilliams 19:33, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
I agree a lot of them are kylix tondos, but Image:Griechen6.JPG is a detail from the side of a stamnos. Jastrow 21:04, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
Right. At the Time of uploading I thought it's OK if you only see the Picture. But now I know that at the end also it's impossible from where the painting is. So it semms the deletion must be. And thanks for your good pics, I've used some of them in "my" articles. Kenwilliams 20:22, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Image: Griechen31.jpg

Hi, I'm rather curious about this image. I don't read any German, so I can't reference your original source myself. What are the dimensions of the kylix bearing the illustration? Ie., height and diameter? And were such graphic depictions common in the time period? Thanks! -(Wikipedia user Kasreyn).

Hello, I can't say anything about the dimensions - it's not written in the book. But I can say, that ist was absolutely common at this time. The Vases were made for the Symposion and should stimulate the guests. Erotic motives were not the only iconographic program, but one of some. Mostly between 550-450 B.C. they were used. Kenwilliams 18:14, 29 May 2006 (UTC)


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Macht doch was ihr wollt - ich habe die Schnauze voll von dem Mist. Kenwilliams 19:40, 17 July 2006 (UTC)


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No source and no description: the image is unusable!

Bilder aus der Holzschnitt Bibliotheca chalcographica von http://www.uni-mannheim.de/mateo/epo.html

Leider sind die Bilder ohne Quellenangabe und ohne jegliche Beschreibung und damit wertlos. Bitte tragen Sie die Beschreibung nach oder lassen die Bilder löschen. Gerhard51 19:03, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Bist du sicher, daß du bei mir richtig bist? Kenwilliams 15:33, 27 August 2006 (UTC)


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Your username redirect

You should have your username and your userpage on the same page. If you'd like this as your username, you can request it and we'll rename you. Otherwise, you'll have to move your information to the User:Kenwilliams page, in order that your user information be on the same location. Please leave me a message if you'd like me to rename you. Cary "Bastique" Bass parler voir 21:42, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Please rename to User:Marcus Cyron. Kenwilliams 17:59, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

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Umbenennung

Deine Umbenennung auf User:Marcus Cyron hat geklappt. Ich habe noch zwei alte Unterseiten von dir in dem Zug mitverschoben: User:Marcus Cyron/gallery und User:Marcus Cyron/Pictures. Siehe auch meine Diskussionsseite. Gruß, Arnomane 16:39, 12 November 2006 (UTC)


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Hello, Copyright-Status is clear - I'm the founder of the Fan-Wiki-Ring. Ofcourse I know, if I can use it. But if you like, you can ask the Creator Jan Suski. Here you can find him, he's named there "Bastos". Marcus Cyron 16:08, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Bilder

Hi Marcus, danke für deine vielfältigen Bildbeiträge! Könntest du - um sie angemessen inhaltlich kategorisieren zu können - einige entsprechende Angaben zufügen. Manchmal täte auch eine minimale Softwarekosmetik gut, um was schief aus dem Rahmen zu fallen droht, wieder gerade zu rücken. Alles Gute im neuen Jahr --Wst question 08:24, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Hallöle - ja, ich werde alle Bilder (so ich es denn vermag) noch beschrieben und tiefer kategorisieren. Ich wollte sie nur erstmal oben haben. Wird wohl allerdings mehrere Tage dauern, da es doch eine ganze Menge (am Ende über 700) sind. Marcus Cyron 10:48, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Pots, pots, pots

Hi Marcus, that's an impressive batch of uploads! I'll do what I can. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 19:01, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks :) - I've made some hundrets more, but not all were usable. PS: Actually Communist still loads around 100 pics up - than it's over for a half year with these pics (I think). Marcus Cyron 19:17, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Image:Pergamonmuseum - Antikensammlung - Knöchelspielerin 0001.JPG

Hm, it's a girl playing knuckle-bones. That would be a Hellenistic work, isn't it? I don't think we have that in store. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 19:43, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

The Original is hellenistic, this version is a roman (antoninian age) copy. This version here ist very interesting, because it's a young girl, nearly a child with very individual feature. Here for instance is an other version, but it's not free. OK, what's not is - isn't ;) Marcus Cyron 19:50, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Description

Hello,

Could you consider giving a description to your uploads? Because an image without description is quite unusable by other people (for exemple, what is this image interesting for?—it is an object in the Pergamonmuseum, und so?). That kind of images is in fact useless (and generally they are not used in articles), because only description is giving price to the image. Bibi Saint-Pol (sprechen) 23:58, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Cool down! - I will do it. But this will need some days, because it's a little bit more. You can see for example my conversation with User Jastrow und User Wst that I work on it. But it would be nice, it I would have A LITTLE time! I know, that the pics in this way not usable. But I'm not an amateur at all! Marcus Cyron 01:21, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
OK. I was just noticing it, no worry. I agree that giving full descriptions is quite boring and time-eating, but it is the only way to keep images their interest. Best wishes. Bibi Saint-Pol (sprechen) 21:41, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
We're thinking the same. I will do every Day some, so that I'm ready in some Weeks. Marcus Cyron 21:58, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Accession to sweepership

Thanks Marcus! Jastrow (Λέγετε) 18:16, 22 January 2007 (UTC)


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Hallo Marcus,

hast du weitere Informationen über dieses Bild. Zum Beisopiel zum jetzigen Besitzer, Entstehung usw. Vielleich werde ich nur langsam blind, aber ich habe dazu bis jetzt nichts wirklich hilfreiches gefunden bzw. gar nichts. Gruß Julius1990 11:43, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Ich schau mal - aber ich bin da kein großer Kenner. An deiner Stelle würde ich mal in der de:WP den de:Benutzer:Barbarelli fragen, der hat viel Ahnung davon und sehr viel literatur. Zudem isser auch ein ganz netter, der hilft dir sicher gern. Marcus Cyron 18:11, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
Danke, für die schnelle Antwort. Julius1990 06:45, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

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This is a derivative work of a non 2D-surface. Therefore PD-art does not apply.

Furthermore the source you are stating is invalid. That domain provides the contents of Wikipedia. It does therefore not give any information that is not provided by Wikipedia. Alas this image still lacks source and author. --|EPO| 20:28, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Its 2d. It's a Wall-Picture. Marcus Cyron 21:53, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

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Knöchelspielerin

Hi Marcus, some time ago you asked me if a knew any variation around this theme (Image:Pergamonmuseum - Antikensammlung - Knöchelspielerin 0001.JPG). Well, I do now :) Here you are: Image:Nymph shell Louvre Ma18.jpg. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 18:08, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Great, thanks :) - with two different Pics its now possible to write an article about this statue-type. Marcus Cyron 00:09, 3 March 2007 (UTC)


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Upload is upload...

Danke schön. Mein Deutsch ist wirklisch ungefähr, obwohl ich versuche, es zu verbessen. Bibi Saint-Pol (sprechen) 16:31, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

I know this - my english is the same - not to speak from other languages... Marcus Cyron 11:37, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Harry Potterer

Hi Marcus, nice job categorizing Greek vases. I just wanted to point out that one who makes pots is a potter, like in Harry Potter, not a potterer :-) Jastrow (Λέγετε) 13:38, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Oh, thanks. It seems, I'm waiting too much for the book ;). I will change ist, you can delete the Category. Next week I#m again in Berlin, I hope I can make some bette pictures than the last time and I will write, what for pictures I take. Not again such chaos like the last time ;). Marcus Cyron 13:41, 21 May 2007 (UTC) PS: If someone makes a great job here, it's you. If I woulf live actuelly in Berlin, I would do it like you an I would make it in such a big style - maybe from next year on again... - PPS: Oh, you're fast.
Why, thanks for the compliment :-) Concerning Berlin, this is great news! Instead of writing, you can take a picture of the caption. It's quicker and it reduces the risk of error. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 13:45, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
Yes, right. Sadly it's sometimes mede in a bad way there. I must see, what's the best way. And I must see, in which way the pictures will be taken, Maybe a friend will do it - but she uses films, not a Digicam. This would be a little bit expensive too. Marcus Cyron 13:48, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

It's “Paestan”, not “Paestanian”. I asked Orgullobot to correct it. Btw, you can use template {{bad name}} to request the deletion of a wrongly-named category or picture. You can also ask me directly; I'm an admin. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 21:35, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I know, I've voted for you. The word-building in german and english sometimes goes different ways... - so, it would be nice (and good), you delete:

And now I'm ready for today. One Category must be moved, but this should do a bot. I hope, the structure now is better than before in the vase-painting depending themes. Now I can begin to continue to write articles. Marcus Cyron 21:44, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Greek pottery

Hi,

Bravo for your work on Greek pottery categorization. Seems pretty convincing, even if it now becomes a headache to find where to put the stuff! Bibi Saint-Pol (sprechen) 00:02, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Oops, I didn't see Jastrow's message up there. Note that I should also travel to Berlin on the next monthes, and hope to complete the Pergamon and Altes Museum. There are so many masterpieces, we can't wait anymore :) Bibi Saint-Pol (sprechen) 00:08, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
Yes, there are so much - I will have next week not so much time, I must see, which pictures I will take. There will be enough to do for you ;). Definetly new and better pics of the pergamon-altar and of the big apulian Vases. I hope, the pics will be better this time, than the last. Sharper. And "if it now becomes a headache to find where to put the stuff" - it will be wonderful headache ;). Marcus Cyron 08:43, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Commo/unist

Hallo Marcus Cyron,
für den Fall, dass es sich nicht um Absicht/Ironie sondern nur um einen Tippfehler handelt, wollte ich dich darauf aufmerksam machen, dass du auf deiner Userseite das Link zum Commons-Tool Commonist mit Communist beschriftet hast. -- Túrelio 07:25, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Oh. Danke, das war keine Absicht *g*. Marcus Cyron 08:43, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Recht am eigenem Bild

Bezugsbild

Meinst du nicht auch, dass das Bild hier etwas davon abweicht? Grüße, __ ABF __ 10:20, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Nein. Erkennst du da Jemanden? Ich nicht, bei mir ist die Person im Hintergrund verschwommen. Marcus Cyron 11:06, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
Bei mir auch, doch für mich ist das grenzwertig, da die Gesichtszüge noch annähernd da sind... naja, ist ja auch egal. __ ABF __ 11:10, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Commons:WikiProject Museums

Hallo,

Jastrow und ich haben diese Projekt anfangen, um die Probleme und die Lösungen zu teilen, für die Leuten, die um die Museen arbeiten. Als du in diesem Fall bist, wirst du vielleicht interessiert. Es ist keine offizielle Einführung, im Augenblick warten wir besonders Kommentare ab. Bibi Saint-Pol (sprechen) 12:25, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Frankfort

Hi Marcus, I hold very strong doubts myself. I tagged the picture as being without a clear source. At worst it will be deleted in 7 seven days. Jastrow (Λέγετε)

Yes, thanks. I think too, this is the best of all possibilities. Actually I already had take the Picture out of the german Frankfort-Article. Marcus Cyron 23:21, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Herculaneum

What am I supposed to explain, please? I just copied the title of the picture into the caption. If the title is wrong, you should contact the uploader. Best wishes. --User:G.dallorto 12:13, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

OK, thank. This explains the problem. Because in Berlin there's no architecture from Herculaneum. Very bad Picture Name. Marcus Cyron 12:15, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Re: Admin

Arrrgh! The killing question!

Actually, I'm about to leave my admin functions on WP.fr, because I'm very frustrated by the way the community evolves, and want to get more time for writing articles. As Commons is already frustrating to me (software and linguistic issues), I rather avoid to cross the line.

Zwischen Skylla und Charybdis... Bibi Saint-Pol (sprechen) 22:43, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

  • g* ;). I know this. A month ago I stopped at de:WP all administative things and since this time I only do Article related things. It's wonderful. No need to argue about dumb things, but the fun of writing. "Back to the roots" of the Project. Sadly a lot of people forget, why we're here and getting "burocratic". - My question is actuall for the next time - If you want to candidate - tell it to me, I will start the Election. Marcus Cyron 09:43, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
Versprochen :) Bibi Saint-Pol (sprechen) 14:19, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

I'd like to thank my mom and dad…

Thank you very much Marcus. I hope I will prove worthy of old JJW. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 16:51, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

My adminship

I replied to your comments at at my adminship request. Oleg Alexandrov 20:56, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Fehlende Lizenzen

Hallo Markus, bei deinen letzten Uploads fehlt eine Lizenz (sicher PD-art?), bitte nachtragen bevor der Bot kommt und deine Seite mit garstigen Warnhinweisen füllt ;-) Grüße, --Polarlys 20:50, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Oh, danke, stimmt. Habe ich bei Coomonist vergessen. Mist. Marcus Cyron 20:52, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Your comments on Commons:Administrators/Requests and votes/Lar (bureaucrat)

As it turned out this was a successful nomination, and your oppose was the only one. But I think taking opposes into account is very important, and I want to assure you that I intend to do that. What can I do to help you feel better about the general trustworthiness of those of us at Commons that have been granted permissions by the community? Please let me know. Also if you ever have any concerns or issues, please do not hesitate to make them known, whether to me, or publicly. Thank you for your comment and best wishes. ++Lar: t/c 15:37, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

You are not the problem. It definetly has nothing to do with your person, as I has written: it was nothing against you as person. Normally you would ever have my support. I have two problems. The first is: I like it, if the work is on much more shoulders. I ever have a little problem, if a persob is burocrat AND Checkuser. In my opinion such jobs should be separated. Too much power in only less hands - I'm uncertainly. So I would prefer, if Checkuser and burocrats were different persons. The other thing is - Commons has really a lot of office-holders. Really much Admins, a lot of Burocrats and a lot of CUs. I think - completely particularly - Checkuser is a very special Job. We shouldn't have more than 3 or 4. And for what we need so much Burocrats I probably never will understand. A Burocrat really have not much to do. On de we have 2 (since 3 years I think) and it was ever enough. I will not say, all what we do on de is right and must be done the same way here. But I see there, how much they must do. So I think, 3 or 4 BCs are also enough here. My opinion. Maybe I see some things not in a correct way. I votet some month ago also against an candidate for CU or BC (can't remember) and I get the answer, there are a lot of other but they don't working actually. So I think they should lost there rights - than it's clear why a requast for such a job is startet. Oh my good - so much (english) text - I hope, it's understandably enough, my englich is not the best. Marcus Cyron 13:19, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for your thoughtful reply. I think you raise a lot of valid points. (and I think I understand you just fine, not to worry on that score, your English ist besser dan meine Deutsch) There is an effort here on Commons underway now to define what it means to be an inactive admin, and to develop a process to reduce the number of inactive admininstrators by, respectfully and without saying they are bad people, removing those administrators who no longer take part here. (see Commons:Administrators/De-adminship and the talk page with it... your comments will help, I'd like to see it widely accepted and used) That process is one that if it is successful, ought to be extended to bureaucrats and to check users. If it is, I think that will address a significant part of your concern (because I agree, I'd rather not see a lot of checkusers that never actually do any checks... I've been active in it since I was confirmed but if I ever am not, I would want to lose it) . The other part, about concentration of power, I have to think about more. But I think one way to not have power too concentrated is to not have too few people in the role either. I think two bureaucrats for a wiki as big as the German Wikipedia are too few actually.. not from a workload perspective only, but from a "watching the watchers" perspective.
Maybe it's a thing of true power. If I think about it, there's not much real power für Burocrats. They are not really Watchmen. Maybe it's not a Problem at de:WP, because we habe Burocrats without any problems inside the project. Sometimes there are discussions, should we need one or two more - but at the end it never will happen. But if one Burocrat would candidate for CU, I think it would be hard. Maybe it's a german thinks not wanted to see a few people with the possible power (at the end theres not really so much "power"). Maybe we drink it with our Mothermilk since 1945. Never again too powerfull leader. On the other hands our Burocrats for Example not really Leaders. Marcus Cyron 18:12, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Antikenmuseum Basel

Hi Marcus. Could you please have a look at the rules and regulations of the Antikenmuseum Basel? I'd like to know if it's OK to take pictures in the permanent collections. It says that "es dürfen in der Ausstellung keine Fotos gemacht werden". As far as I remember, "Ausstellung" means "exhibition", doesn't it? Thanks a lot for your help. If pictures are OK, I'll make a one-day trip there. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 16:42, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Yes, "Ausstellung" means "Exhebition". So I think it's forbidden. But maybe you can ask. The Name Wikipedia sometimes open doors. It would be good for them. Marcus Cyron 19:22, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
I thought maybe taking pictures was permitted in permanent collections but forbidden in exhibitions, as is often the case. But you're right, the best way to know is to ask. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 14:32, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

The Knöchelspielerin strikes back

Hi Marcus, I've found another example of the Knöchelspielerin type, this time a modern variant by Antoine Coysevox. Enjoy! Jastrow (Λέγετε) 19:14, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Great, thanks. I must write the article now... - Why a day hasn't 30 hours? OK, first Boso of Vienne, then the german Wikipédia:Wikiconcours. It will be one of my next 10 bigger articles. I hope so... - I will! ;). Marcus Cyron 21:54, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Bibinckelmann

Hallo Marcus,

Viele Danken für die Belhonung. Currently I'm not very present on Commons, since I am working on a high-res Peloponnesian map, but I still have an impressive Munich reserve waiting for upload...

Grüß. Bibi Saint-Pol (sprechen) 11:51, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I saw what you already had uploaded. And the Maps are also one of these points... :). Marcus Cyron 12:18, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

;-)

Happy to see that we are on the same page. [1] When the discussion starts, I'm looking forward to reading your views on the level of activity needed to keep the CU tools. Take care, FloNight♥♥♥ 19:36, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi :) Wanted to let you know that the discussion has started here. FloNight♥♥♥ 16:14, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Pioneer Group

Hi Marcus. The Louvre notice mentions only the Pioneer Group, as you can see here. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 21:40, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Ah, thanks. So or so it's not false, Smikros is a member of the Pioneer-Group. So I think it will be better we let it be, like it is actually. Maybe we get sometimes later a more correct information. Marcus Cyron 22:38, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Forza Etruria

Ciao,

The case of this vase is a little doubtfull: there are 3 specific rooms in the Louvre for Etruscan antiquities, but it is displayed with black-figured Boeotian, Chalcidian and Laconian works[2]. Nevertheless, the notice assigns it as a “Caeretan” work, so this Category:Eagle Painter should perhaps be categorized in the existing Category:Etruscan black-figure pottery. What do you think? Bibi Saint-Pol (sprechen) 16:08, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

I actually never was in the Louvre (sad but true - I was in France, but never in Paris...) - and I never heard about the Eagle Painter before (musn't say anything, there are hundrets of Painters... ;)). So I only can trust the texts. The Problem is - there are such etruscan Painters - but is he one of them? “Caeretan” means to me - YES - he is one. So I think, we can take the risk ;). And If he's not, we can change it back. Marcus Cyron 16:16, 4 September 2007 (UTC) PS: If I ask on your side, you can answer there - I will find it ;) - so we don't need to have a discussion over two sides :).
OK, at my own risk. Bibi Saint-Pol (sprechen) 16:39, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
P.S.: I know there are 2 religions for answering messages on WP. Actually I am a great fan of the panel “You have new messages” (watchlists are boring to me), so I belong to the “one talk–several pages” church... This is quite common on WP fr.

I just saw your message on Bibi's page. Would this be what you're looking for? Jastrow (Λέγετε) 19:51, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Yes, thanks. I looked for a Name of a known Kerch-Painter. So I found the english-language Version of the Sytle-name ;). Marcus Cyron 21:03, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
Ach! Zu spät :) Bibi Saint-Pol (sprechen) 15:40, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Image:KriegerdenkmalRudersdorf6.jpg

Hallo Marcus, das DSC-Bild habe ich gelöscht. Bitte prüfe bei dem verbleibenden noch einmal die Kategorie, ich weiß nicht ob es Category:Rüdersdorf bei Berlin sein soll. --GeorgHH 20:40, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Ja, soll es, danke. War mir gar nicht bewüßt, daß es das mit dem Zusatz gibt. Marcus Cyron 20:46, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Picture crop

Hi Marcus. I'd like to make some cosmetic modifications on your pictures, such as cropping, adding contrast, rotating, deleting parasite objects (museum tags, props) and so on. Do you prefer I upload the cleaned-up pictures separately, as new ones (you'd be duly credited, of course) or can I just overwrite the old ones? Jastrow (Λέγετε) 10:58, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm only interested in good pictures - so do it in your own way, as you like it (I'm happy, if they getting better) :). At the End of October I should be again in Berlin, if you need pictures of special objects, let me know. Marcus Cyron 18:49, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

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Oh, schon vorbei? Danke :). Marcus Cyron 14:23, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations! Eugene beat me to promoting you. :) ++Lar: t/c 14:33, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Now I'm looking for some useful admin-tools. Do we hove such things here at commons? Never looked for such things before. Marcus Cyron 14:38, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
Did you ever find what you needed? There are a lot of tools, so many that it can be a bit daunting to find them all. ++Lar: t/c 02:03, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
That's the problem - to find those things is hard, but I would bet, there are a lot. I found actually no side who tell about it. Marcus Cyron 14:12, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
Perhaps you could find stuff and record it as you find it? The page could then be linked from the admin welcome template. I find the messages javascript useful for one thing. if you look in my monobook.js you will find more stuff as well. ++Lar: t/c 05:31, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
I made a copy now of your monobook - and will see, what's there in the next days. Like a Surprise Egg ;). Marcus Cyron 16:17, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Image:Werjae.jpg

Hallo Marcus! So gern ich es auch behalten würde, aber dieses Bild lässt sich nicht als PD deklarieren. Am besten löschst Du es als URV. Gruß, Wikisource-logo.png Jonathan Groß Wikipedia-logo.png 17:31, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Sofort muß man ackern... ;). Hast aber recht. Marcus Cyron 08:59, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Auf Deutsch

Hallo Marcus,

Wie kann man auf Deutsch “squat lekythos” übersetzen? Siehe z.B. Image:Pegasos Staatliche Antikensammlungen 2504.jpg. Danke. Bibi Saint-Pol (sprechen)

Hallo, Bibi. Auf Deutsch nennt man sie "Bauchlekythos". Marcus Cyron 19:16, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
Danke. Bibi Saint-Pol (sprechen) 13:20, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
Kein Problem :). Marcus Cyron 13:35, 3 November 2007 (UTC)


Hallo Marcus,
könntest du bei den Fotos, die du gestern hochgeladen hast, noch eine Beschreibung hinzufügen, die fehlt nämlich bei allen.
Und, obwohl auch ich der Meinung bin, dass das "Tsor-Theater" von User:Mutter Erde nicht ins Commons:Forum gehört, wäre eine begründende edit-summary bei deiner Löschung fremder Edits doch besser gewesen. -- Túrelio 16:00, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Die bekommen alle noch eine Beschreibung, kam bislang nur noch nicht dazu. Und ich hatte eine Begründung geschrieben (mit dem Inhalt, den du jetzt auch gesagt hast), aber irgendwie ging das verloren. Marcus Cyron 18:49, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Commons:Language policy

hello there. Please read Commons:Language policy and see en:Pergamon Museum. en:Brandenburg Gate is also another such case. sincerely Gryffindor 15:57, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

There does indeed seem to be some confusion about the English name of the museum. I will research this topic and get back to you on that. Gryffindor 16:49, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
Fascinating news. The name on the English Wikipedia was based on the English homepage of the museum. Which had a mistake. I wrote to the museum and they have stated that there was a mistake on their homepage, which is now corrected. So the information on the English Wikipedia AND the English homepage of the museum was wrong. I requested the articles to be moved back to the original name and posted a discussion on the English Wikipedia. So good work there, you have been able to rightly point out two mistakes at the same time. sincerely Gryffindor 17:00, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
At the end only this ist important ;). Marcus Cyron 18:42, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

replacing images

I am sorry if you see many of your images being replaced with higher resolution ones such as here Image:Pergamonmuseum - Vorderasiatisches Museum 074.JPG, but the point of the Commons is to have the highest possible quality images available. Since you have taken a lot of work to photograph each image in the museum which I think is a great idea, as a compromise I have put up the replacant images to have the names of your old ones, like here Image:Pergamon Museum Berlin 2007118.jpg. So please don't take it as a personal offence, but please try in future to only upload images that are not blurry and are usable for encyclopaedic purposes. Gryffindor 21:38, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Better Picture - are better, it's OK. I don't need to see my Pics used. But you must look at the pictures. Not all are the same. Different Looks are different Looks. This isn't the same. Next your I've planned to meke new Pictures of every Artefact at the Archeological Collections in Berlin. But we should only delete real Diuplicates. And remember - deleting an Image isn't really deleting. They are still at the Server. So we can have different Versions of the Picture, it's no Problem. We can't make place for others. Marcus Cyron 00:08, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
I know what you mean, I have left some of your images because even with a higher resolution image sometimes the angle is different or the light. I think it's a good idea to have images of every artifact, something like an online-inventory, which would make the Commons unique. Gryffindor 19:00, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Category:Nolan amphoras

Hallo Marcus,

Excuse my ignorance, but is "Nolan amphora" refering to a special shape of amphora, or simply to an amphora produced in Nolan? I ask this since it may be confusing to mix by location cats with by shape cats (for this, I guess that Neck-amphoras and Paunch amphoras at least are missing). Thanks. Bibi Saint-Pol (sprechen) 17:21, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Hello, Bibi. You're right, there's missing some more specific Categories for Amphoras and also for Craters, Kylixes already good sorted. For Amphoras we have a lot of different Shapes. The Nolan Amphora ist a special kind of the Neck-Amphora, named "Nolan" because Archeologist have found there al lot. You speak german, so you can try to read my Article for the german Wikipedia, it you want. Problem is, it's not ever easy to decide (for me), what's a small "normal" Neck-Amphora, what is a Nolan Amphora. I hope I get it here correct. If we Undercategorize the Amphoras, the Nolan Amphoras will be an Undercat for the Neck-Amphoras. I have planned to write a greater list of pottery shapes, also for mor specific and more different Shapes, for the german Wikipedia - when I've done it, I give you a Link. Marcus Cyron 21:47, 27 November 2007 (UTC) PS: Nolan Amphoras at Perseus Project
OK. As you didn't link the Commons cat to your German article, I didn't find it! Probably I misinterpreted the notices I read I Munich: I translated »Nolanische Amphora« by “Amphora from Nola”. I will have a check for this. Bibi Saint-Pol (sprechen) 18:29, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
Yes, I've forget to interlink the Articles. Marcus Cyron 19:12, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

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OsamaK 16:47, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Pankration Research Institute

Hallo Marcus,

I notice you uploaded several photos from this source:

The last one is a very probable copyvio (see original image), thus it is tagged as cc-by-2.0 on the Flickr page. I am afraid that other images from the same source are all copyvios too:

  1. First of all, images are coming from all over the world (MET, BM, Louvre, Athens, St-Petersburg) and were uploaded at the same time on Flickr. It is very unlikely that one made such a travel to display about 10 photos online...
  2. Secondly, the style of photos is very different: this is amateur while this is professional. And when seeing this photo, this is a highly professional work, cropped in low-resolution as you can find here (I just found it :).

Well, in fact the material on the Flickr page does not seem free at all. I let you make your decision but I guess it should be all deleted from Commons. Bibi Saint-Pol (sprechen) 10:18, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

As you say it, it seems to be right. I'm normally too trustfull, I think... - could ask for a speedy-deletion? I will do it then. But it's better, I think, we're going the correct way. Marcus Cyron 14:59, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
OK, I just tagged these images as copyvios. Bibi Saint-Pol (sprechen) 15:47, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
Executed. Marcus Cyron 22:58, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
Danke! Bibi Saint-Pol (sprechen) 11:45, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Hinweis

Moin. Schaust du mal bei den aktuellen Adminkandidaten vorbei? ;) Gruss --S[1] 12:32, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Oje. Soweit ich ABF kenne, wäre eigentlich ein Contra angebracht. Er will das zusehr. Zudem ist er extrem labil. Ich überlege es mir noch. Marcus Cyron 19:35, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
Jeder lernt fürs Leben, und bei ABF sieht man das. Er braucht die Knöpfe alles andere als „zum Spaß“. Die Zeiten sind vorbei. Ich als Vorschlagender weiß schon, was ich da mache ;-) --S[1] 21:02, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Danke

Vielen Dank für dein support bei meiner RfA. Ich setze alles daran, das in mich gesetzte Vertrauen nicht zu enttäuschen. Frohe Weihnachten, __ ABF __ ϑ 20:18, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Wird schon. Dir auch ein frohes Fest. Marcus Cyron 15:30, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your trust

Thank you for exhibiting trust in me in my recent request. I will do my best to continue to act in a way that will benefit the commons and the commons community. -- Avi 01:24, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Blitz

Hallo,

Sind Blitzaufnahmen in berliner Museen erlaubt? Ich will bald in Berlin reisen, ich bereite meine Reise vor :) Bibi Saint-Pol (sprechen) 20:22, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Sorry fürs einmischen, aber ich glaub', dass das aufs Museum ankommt. Grüße, __ ABF __ ϑ 21:39, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
Sicher. Ich meinte besonders an das Pergamon oder Alte Museum. Bibi Saint-Pol (sprechen) 22:14, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Hallo Bibi. Nein. Kein Blitz, kein Stativ (in den archäologischen Museen der Museumsinsel, andere Museen kann ich nicht beurteilen). Nur normales fotografieren. Ist ja erfreulich, dann bekommen wir mal bessere Bilder ;). Ich war gestern wieder im Alten Museum (Antikensammlung) und werde es morgen wieder sein (wohl Pergamon-Museum und Frühchristlich-Byzantinische Sammlung im Bode-Museum). Wenn du es schaffen würdest, den Phlyakenkrater von Astead zu fotografieren, ohne daß er völlig verschwommen ist, wäre das super. Interessant wird eine Reise nach Berlin aus archäologischer Sicht ab 2009 sein, wenn das Neue Museum eröffnet wird und die archäologischen Sammlungen endlich alle auf der Museumsinsel in kompletter Aufstellung vereint sind. Marcus Cyron 00:47, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Ich muß in Berlin in Februar fahren (gegen 9-18). Kannst du mir sagen, wo ist der Phlyakenkrater von Astead (und was ist ein Phlyakenkrater: ich suche es nicht)? Ich weiß bereits für das Neue Museum — im Jahre 2009 werde ich zurück :) Bibi Saint-Pol (sprechen) 11:11, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
die in der Vitrine auf diese folgt
es geht um diese Vase
Der Phlyakenkrater steht hinter einer besonders großen Vitrinen mit apulischen Grabvasen. Diese sind ausgesprochen groß und vor allem Volutenkratere (:de:Apulische Vasen (Berlin 1984.39–59)]]. Dahinter ist eine normale Vitrine mit unteritalischen Vasen. Gleich vorn steht die Asteas-Vase mit der Phlyakenszene (zwei Männer ziehen an einem dritten, der auf einer Kiste liegt - alle haben sehr große Phalli). Phlyakenvasen sind Vasen, die meist derbe Szenen aus der Theaterwelt zeigen (de:Phlyakenvase).
Derzeit (bis 2. März) gibt es im Pergamonmuseum eine Sonderausstellung, in der Artefakte gezeigt werden, die nicht oft zu sehen sind. Darunter auch diverse Vasen ("Zur Hölle!" - Eine Reise in die antike Unterwelt). Das ist nicht extrem viel, aber lohnt sich in der Zusammenstellung. Marcus Cyron 18:28, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Ach, ich habe bereits dieses Gefäß gesehen! Natürlich werde ich es nicht verpassen.
Weißt du wenn es möglich ist, in der "Zur Hölle!" Ausstellung zu photographieren? Das könnte interessant sein. Bibi Saint-Pol (sprechen) 14:37, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
Ja, man kann photografieren. Ich habe auch schon Bilder gemacht. Wieder etwa 400, ich muß jetzt sehen, was ich davon verwenden kann. Vielleicht die Hälfte. Und ein Teil sollte auch aus der Sonderausstellung sein. (I should write in english, because my english is so bad, it should geetting better while trying - and I think it's fair, when I also like you use an other language). Marcus Cyron 19:40, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
Nein, nein! Bitte auf Deutsch, das ist eine gutte Übung für mich :) Bibi Saint-Pol (sprechen) 20:04, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

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No sysop no cry

Hi Marcus,

There are far too much aspects of Commons which I dislike (unconsistent process of decision, lack of copyright validation, lack of quality/relevance criterias, software nullity and English proselytism) to endorse the adminship. Furthermore I know by experience this is a full-time job, and I currently don't have time to waste.

In fact, I feel much more constructive by doing my work with my expectations rather than applying poor expectations on someone else's work. Probably, I'm no longuer a revolutionist :)

Thanks for your confidence though. Bibi Saint-Pol (sprechen) 18:22, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Actually Wikipedia is my Fulltime Job (OK, bad payed ;)). Mostly at de:WP, so I understand what you say ;). And I'm not a "Full time Admin". To write Articles brings much too much fun. But in fact - as an Admin you have mostly a bigger Influence. And to change the System is only possible in the System. But you're "no" is OK. Sad for the project - but OK. By the way - actually I'm working at de at a List of greek Vase-Painters and Potters (de:Liste der griechischen Töpfer und Vasenmaler). Maybe this will be interesting also for other project. But it's not complete yet (it will be also not complete, when I'm ready for the first). Marcus Cyron 22:54, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
This is a promising idea; you're doing a great job on WP de, keep this way!
Perhaps it could be helpfull on WP en, since it is the WP where this topic is most developped after WP de. But there is quite no article on vase-painters at WP fr, so a translation would be too early.
A few remarks:
  • You should precise in your short introduction how this list was made (by aggregation several sources I presume);
  • It would be appreciable if there were a link to Commons for each painter (in the Beispiel column, under each images for instance).
  • On the same way, you should provide a link in the Stil column to the detailed article of the style, so that people aren't forced to jumped to the introduction if they don't understand RF or WG.
Regards. Bibi Saint-Pol (sprechen) 21:47, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
You're writing all these ideas I have for the article. Great, we understand these things in the same way, I tinhk :). Marcus Cyron 23:07, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Danke

Stomach remedy/ Magenmedizin

Vielen Dank für diene "support". Ich wunschet das dieser Medizin macht sie besser. :) Aber, ich glaube daß nicht functioniert für dieses Rote mann, er ist jetzt todt! ++Lar: t/c 16:15, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

*gg* Marcus Cyron 18:16, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Commons Class, maybe Marcus Cyron

Hi Marcus. You're absolutely right, there was a mistake. The author line should be read: "Epylikos Class, maybe Skythes". I fixed it. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 07:40, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Good. An artcle I don't need to write ;). Marcus Cyron 13:43, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
Btw, we now have a picture of the name-piece for the Epilykos Class, Image:Janiform aryballos Skythes Louvre CA986.jpg. Ref is “Epilykos Kalos” by H. Shapiro, Hesperia, Vol. 52, No. 3 (Jul. - Sep., 1983), pp. 305-310. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 10:13, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
Great. You're a Godess! :) Marcus Cyron 22:59, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

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Hello, why the file above has been delated ? it's an illustration of an author died 70 years ago, and is not the only one. The entire book is in wikisource.fr. The other files are here Carlègle Thanks for your answer Sapcal22 16:31, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Hello, it's a french Author, so the special Post-War-Copyright ist to use (see here). We must wait there 9 Years longer. Marcus Cyron 01:05, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Image:Pergamonmuseum - Antikensammlung - Statue 03.JPG

Maybe you don't know that your image Image:Pergamonmuseum - Antikensammlung - Statue 03.JPG has been published on the web site of the Archeological Museum of Taranto: http://www.museotaranto.it/berlino/persefone.html

I was not able to find the GFDL license on the site, maybe you would like to contact the museum directly to claim your copyrights...

Best regards --TcfkaPanairjdde 16:08, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the Information. In such Cases it's OK for me, it's scientific usage. But it's good to know. Marcus Cyron 17:47, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Code

Sorry, aber ich habs nicht ganz verstanden, wesshalb traust du Code die Knöpfe nicht zu? Grüße, abf /talk to me/ 20:04, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Ich hatte bei seiner Wahl auf de schon Zweifel, ob er wirklich gut mit den Knöpfen umgehen kann. Bislang sehe ich mich eher in meinen Zweifeln bestätigt. Keine groben Fehler oder absichtlich Falsches. Aber eine Tendenz die dem entgegen geht, was ich für richtig halte. Und hier kann ich mir nicht vorstellen, daß er anders ist. Bezieht sich aber einzig darauf, nicht auf ihn als Person. Denn persönlich finde ich Code sehr sympathisch. Marcus Cyron 21:42, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Bilder

Die Löschung von Image:Ricco Gross Biathlet.jpg und Image:Michael Rösch Biathlet.jpg kann ich absolut nicht nachvollziehen. Gibt es irgendwo eine Entsprechende Festlegung? An der Lizenzierung der bilder kan es wohl nicht liegen. --Alma 15:32, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Da stand ein flasches Datum im Flickr-Check. Die wurden laut Timestamp schon als richtig übertragen angesehen, bevor die Bilder zu den Commons übertragen wurden. Ich finde es auch absurd, aber die Hardliner regieren dieses Projekt. Ich kann die Bilder aber wieder herstellen und du schaust dir das nochmal an. Marcus Cyron 19:24, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Ja, mach bitte. Ich schaue es mir nochmal an bzw. kennst du dich da aus? --Alma 05:36, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Fotoworkshop

Hallo, schau mal bei http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Foto-Exkursion_Berlin_2008 vorbei. Es gibt da manchmal Tricks um zu schärferen Bilder zu kommen, wobei das in Museen nicht immer einfach ist, da es meist an Licht mangelt und dann noch Vitrinen im Weg sind. --Kolossos 11:53, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Ja, gern - sehr gerne. Aber der April ist in diesem Jahr absolut unmöglich. Die eine Hälfte bin ich in Griechenland (allein dafür wäre ein Fotoworkshop gut ;)) und danach ist eine Hochzeit u.s.w. - defenitiv der falsche Monat. Es sind auch erstmal "Übergangsbilder", damit wir überhaupt etwas haben. Ich hoffe, daß sie irgendwann durch Bessere ersetzt werden können. Ich bin mir bewußt, daß sie zu einem nicht geringen Teil leider nicht sehr dolle sind. Marcus Cyron 12:23, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Image:Phlyax scene Antikensammlung Berlin F3044.jpg

Hi Marcus,

As promise, here's your phlyax scene. Picture is not very good though since this krater is one of the worst placed of the museum (awful contre-jour and too close of the case).

I also have a question concerning your former images: when I shoot a better version than the one you uploaded, I currently tend to recover your version (and eventually move it then to a more relevant name). I do so to try to keep an homogenous quality. Are you OK with this?

Another point: is the accession number dependant of the Altes Museum or is it common for the Antikensammlung collection? I believe this is the second option, but I'm not sure. Bibi Saint-Pol (sprechen) 21:08, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Great, thanks. Much more better than my Attempts. A lot of the artefacts are placed not goos, mostly because of the light and the refelctions. I hope on the new settings next year.

For me only it's important to have good pictures. I'm not vain ;). I uploaded this night and morning also again some pics of my last visit in January and I also think, I maybe can sort the more worst out. On the other hand - to delete is not really to delete, nothing left the servers. So there's no practical sense depending place. But to bring more order in it would be good.

The Numbers are common to the Antikensammlung. Very different Numbers have often to do with the history of the collection (not only but also with the former western and eastern collection). I wait in eager for your images now. :) Marcus Cyron 21:32, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Tu' mir doch bitte nen Gefallen

und helf' mir mit dem, du kannst das so schön erklären ;) Danke, abf /talk to me/ 14:41, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Dankeschön :)) abf /talk to me/ 20:20, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Pergamonmuseum

Hallo. Wäre es möglich zu den Bilders Image:Pergamonmuseum - Antikensammlung - Bronzestatue 02.JPG und Image:Pergamonmuseum - Antikensammlung - Bronzestatue 03.JPGn Image:RGM 061-1.jpg genauere Beschreibungen zu machen. Wen stellen die Statuen dar, aus welcher Zeit stammen sie usw. Traumrune 23:29, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Ja. Mittlerweile sollte ich die entsprechenden Informationen haben. Zur Zeit des hochladens hat es mir leider gefehlt. Die Kataloge der Sammlung waren recht schlecht (sind immer noch mangelhaft, aber seitdem habe ich die Beschreibungen mit fotografiert - muß sie noch raussuchen). Mache es morgen, es sei denn, mir fehlen doch die Infos. Marcus Cyron 23:33, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Gut für das Gedächtnis

Hallo Marcus,

Kennst du die genauen Inventarnummern die Fischteller (z.B. Image:Fischteller Antikensammlung Berlin 2.JPG und Image:Fischteller Antikensammlung Berlin 8.JPG). Das wäre praktisch, um sie zu unterscheiden. Bibi Saint-Pol (sprechen) 13:47, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Es gehören vier Fischteller aus der großen Vitrine zum apulischen Grabfund. Von diesen Tellern habe ich die Inventarnummern.: 1984.54, 1984.55, 1984.56, 1984.57. Sie gehören alle zum Umkreis den Dareios-Malers. Welche Nummer zu welchem Teller gehört kann ich nicht genau sagen, das gibt meine Literatur nicht her. Das ist wahrscheinlich 1984.55, das wahrscheinlich 1984.54, das wohl 1984.57 und das müßte 1984.56 sein. Die Inventarnummern der anderen Teller weiß ich leider nicht. Marcus Cyron 23:30, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
Sogar Frage für die Frauenkopfteller (Image:Kopfteller 1.JPG, Image:Kopfteller 2.JPG und Image:Kopfteller 3.JPG). Die Fischteller sind jetzt in Ordnung. Bibi Saint-Pol (sprechen) 21:19, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
Wir machen es einfacher. Kannst du mir bitte deine E-Mail-Adresse schicken? Marcus Cyron 22:53, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
fabien PunKt vayssiere bEi laposte PUnkt net. Du kannst auch hier schreiben. Bibi Saint-Pol (sprechen) 19:36, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
Du hast Post mit einem Anhang. Diesen kann man leider nicht über das interne Mail-System senden. Marcus Cyron 22:13, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
Vielen Dank, es ist sehr nützlich!
Kannst du bitte Haushalt in meine gallery machen? Einige Administratoren sehen nervös aus... Bibi Saint-Pol (sprechen) 20:52, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
Done :) Marcus Cyron 21:32, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Marcus Cyron reading a volumen

Hi Marcus, I reverted Image:Muse reading Louvre CA2220.jpg and uploaded the new version as Image:Muse reading Louvre CA2220 n2.jpg. Would it be OK if I crop this new version to the dimensions of the older one? Depth of field, sharpness and white balance are defintely better on the new one.

Re the Shuvalov Painter, I forgot to shoot closer views of the vase paintings. Do you new such pictures as well? Jastrow (Λέγετε) 19:16, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

I would say that's OK. For me only important is the picture, not the dimension. If you think you can do something for the quality - great. :) - I would like to use the older image to bring a picture in the article de:Klismos (actually not written). Depends all to my actuall project de:Schuwalow-Maler (for the actuall 8th writing contest at the german WP).
And for that I need the Images of the Shuvalov Painter. For me it's not so important if the view show the whole object or the painting. The best is to have both. For an article about the painter of course the paintings are the most important. But at the end your ans Bibis images so good and big enough, that a reader can take a good lokk at the images without to have them as close up - or simply: If we have such images it's good, If not, also OK (and one more time I hope my english is good enough for understanding what I'h trying to say ;)). Marcus Cyron 22:42, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
All right, I'll start hunting the Campana gallery for klismoi. As for the writing contest, I suppose you already have access to JSTOR? If not, I can forward you any JSTOR article you may require. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 23:03, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
Oh, cool. I don't have acces, I live mostly from my own Library. If I found something I need, I ask you. If you are the next time in the Louvre, I have another request. My second nominated article is about Dodona (I must give a talk there at my greek tour, so I decided, I con rewrite the article ;)). The Louvre has some (not much) artefacts from there MNB 2877-2886, MNC 1237-1243, MNC 1330, MNC 1782, MNC 1881-1883 (must be metal objects like Statuettes, Tripodes and Fragments). If you found such things... ;). But it's not so important. Marcus Cyron 23:40, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
Is that offer open to everyone, Jastrow? *wiggles eyebrows suggestively* Twospoonfuls 17:59, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi Marcus, there are some new pictures for you in Category:Shuvalov Painter :-) I also shot some bronze artefacts from Dodona, as requested, and some vases representing klismoi. I'll keep you posted. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 10:34, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Great, thanks :). You're a godess! It getting better and better. Only a virus (Computer not me) works actually against me... Marcus Cyron 15:58, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
I've uploaded a new version of Image:Muse reading Louvre CA2220.jpg. Do you feel it's better? Also, please note Image:Akhilleus Nereides Louvre G482 n2.jpg. Perhaps a category:Klismoi would be in order? Pictures about Dodone artefacts will be uploaded in a moment. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 17:45, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
Category:Klismoi in Art I would say ;). And yes, it's a better version. Marcus Cyron 10:38, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
The Dodona harvest: a figurine representing Apollo (?), the bronze head from a situla, a horse figurine, a sacrificial hammer (#1 and #2) and another horse figurine. There are other artefacts from Dodona in the Louvre; I'll try my luck next time but bronze figurines are hellishly difficult to shoot correctly. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 11:41, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
Oh yes. I know. My trying to shot these objects are more bad than my vases. I don't think I had uploaded one of them. The good thing - these are absolutely typical objects from Dodona. "Dodona pure". Marcus Cyron 13:59, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

I created category:Klismoi in art. I checked mainly vase pictures from the Louvre. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 09:04, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Wonderful. I will see, when I con do something for it. Actually I have so much to du und so less time and problems with my Internet-Connection, that I have no time for such things :(. Marcus Cyron 21:08, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Many Thanks

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Dear Marcus Cyron,
Thank you for supporting my Request for Adminship. I’m honored by your trust and will do my best to help build a better site. Durova 21:02, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Start small, close obvious deletion discussions. Get bolder with experience. Pretty soon Commons will have ten thousand images! (giggles, flees) ;)

Do a ggod job and no thanks are needed :). Marcus Cyron 22:34, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

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Personality rights

Hi Marcus. I beg to disagree concerning Image:Buenos Aires - 2008 Summer Olympics torch relay - 20080411-6.jpg. Personality rights apply even if both the person and the event are public. It means, for instance, that the depicted person can oppose your reuse of this picture in a commercial. It doesn't mean the picture shouldn't be on Commons: personality rights are orthogonal to the right to privacy. The {{personality rights}} template is applied throughout Commons for pictures like this one. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 13:37, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

I think we could argue here. It's a public event, there are a lot of press and everyone knows that. These People also want to be seen. I can't see there every violation of personal rights. But I don't want to argue. If you think you must do it - OK. Better you than an strange IP. Marcus Cyron 14:19, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
There is a misunderstanding here, I sure regret my written German is so bad. This template does not mean the picture is a violation at all, it's just a warning about reuse. It's perfectly OK for us to use this picture. It's also OK if you want to use it in a newspaper, or a blog about the Olympic Games. It may not be OK if you want to use it in an advertising; it sure won't be OK if you use it in a fake porn picture. Personality rights are not the same thing as right to privacy. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 14:31, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
Oh. Than I had understand this template completely false. My fault. Marcus Cyron 15:13, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
You're certainly not the first one ;-) Jastrow (Λέγετε) 15:22, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

The script

is really fast, isnt it? :) ;) Regards, abf /talk to me/ 19:48, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Dabei habe ich mich nur verklickt. Kannst hier auch Deutsch mit mir reden ;). Marcus Cyron 19:49, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Image:Isla Fisher

Hi Marcus Cyron, you deleted an image I uploaded from Flickr (Image:Isla Fisher.jpg) as being a copyright violation. Oddly, I can't find the image on Flickr anymore (it seems to have been deleted), but I know that when I uploaded it it was licensed under Creative Commons. Could you explain to me what the problem was? Thanks! Faithlessthewonderboy 05:02, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Hello, the given reason by the One who nominated for deletion was: The person who uploaded this to Flickr doesn't seem to be a pro photographer, according to their bio (http://flickr.com/people/london_heiress86/), and is only 21. This image also has a yellow border around it, which is odd for her to put, if she was the photographer. Additionally, it's in a folder dedicated to pictures of Sasha Baron Cohen (her husband), and so unless she travels... - the problem is, that very often at Flickr people use a false licence. They don't kow it better or they ignore the correct Licensing. That you don't find the picture anymore is a good sign, that there was a mislicensing. If you would find out, that the license was correct, write it to me an I could restore the Image. It's not lost at the server. But we shouldn't take such a risk. It could getting expensive (at the end for the uploader, you). So it's better to delete such Images. Marcus Cyron 11:25, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Image:Cable car lift Movenpick-modif.jpg

Please read Commons:Deletion guidelines.

You have deleted the file Image:Cable car lift Movenpick-modif.jpg. I do'nt sure, that this file meet criteria for speedy deletion without a request. But it does not matter. However it is'nt acceptable to delete any file until it is used in any article (see here). Thank You. --ŠJů 17:06, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Cool down. The CommonsDeletionLinker will delete all Links in Articles. Marcus Cyron 20:00, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

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Peithinos cup

Hello, could I persuade you to try for some more pictures of the Peithinos cup? Even though its position is awkward, I think that it will be possible to get some better images with a bit of effort. Thanks, Haiduc 12:55, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Hello, I will try it. I'm in 2 weeks again in Berlin, then I will see, what I can do (It's not so easy throu the glas). Marcus Cyron 14:45, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
Forgive my butting in, but I too have had that problem. Work with the focusing features of your camera, and play with the angle to minimize distortion. I often take ten or twenty shots of an object and only one or two come out ok. Thankfully, pixels are free, unlike film used to be. Haiduc 21:50, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
Have you tried using a polarizing filter? Its not infallible, but it sometimes helps with the glare on the vitrines. Twospoonfuls 20:08, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Klügmann Painter

Hi Marcus. The Klügmann Painter is mentioned in Beazley's Attic Red-Figured Vase-Painters. Image:Muse reading Louvre CA2220.jpg is misleading: the vase was found in Boeotia but it's painted in the Attic style.

Btw, do you know of any Alcestis/Alcesti Group (Grupo de Alcesti in Spanish)? The vase would be Apulian. I can't find any artist of that name in the CVA base and I don't have my Trendall at hand. The upload of my pictures from MNA, Madrid is going rather slowly because the captions are incomplete. I have to cross-reference each vase with CVA online; it's tedious work. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 15:24, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

OK, goos to know better about the Klügmann Painter. Trendall don't write about the group. I made at de:WP a list with all Painters and Potters I know (de:Liste der griechischen Töpfer und Vasenmaler) from the 4 Boardman Handbooks, the Trendall Book, Manack, some other catalogues and books I own and Artists I found in Museums. At the end - of all I know. There you ever can check which Artist I actually know (de:Liste der griechischen Töpfer und Vasenmaler/A). I will update there ever when I find new ones (and this will be again and again). It will be never complete, they find every year new vases of new artists. So it's not a wonder, if Trendall don't know all. And he don't write abaout all artist he know in his Handbook. Same like Boardman. This only has done Beazley (and I sadly don't have his books. Not to get here.). Actually I'm working hard on the list, I try to get them OK as wide as possible at the weekend. There's also a list of the differnt names of the artists in different languages (the main languagey of classical archeology: de:Liste der griechischen Töpfer und Vasenmaler/Konkordanz). Marcus Cyron 10:34, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Paestan vase-painters

Geehrter Herr Marcus Cyron. Ich verstehe ihren rollback nicht. Wir haben eine Category zuviel! "Paestan red-figure vase-painters" bringt zu den unter-Categorien vom Asteas, Python, usw. Das ist ja korrekt und in Ordnung. In dieser Seite aber, unten, haben wir die andere Category "Paestan vase-painters": zu was dient die? Wenn man sie klikt, kommt man nicht zu den Paestanischen Mahler (die ja schon da sind!) sondern in die vorherige selbe Category "Paestan red-figure vase-painters" die wieder zum Asteas und Python führt. Wem soll diese ganze Tarantella dienen? Können Sie mir nun Ihre Korrektur erklähren? Dankeschön! Herzlichst von --DenghiùComm 20:54, 14 May 2008 (UTC) PS: Uebrigens: diese Kategorien sollte man mit [Category:Paestum] verknüpfen: meine [Category:Paestan pottery] diente dazu, denn sie ist eine unter-Category von "Art of Paestum" ! PS2: Ich glaube etwas darüber zu verstehen, denn ich bin Archäologe und wohne in dieser Gegend!

Sie sind Archäologe und wollen allen Ernstes die Paestanische Vasenmalerei zu einer Unterkategorie der Kampanischen Vasenmalerei machen? Na gut, daß Trendall schon tot ist und das nicht mehr lesen muß. Im übrigen heißt Archäologe zu sein (ich auch) noch lange nicht, daß man sich in allen Bereichen auskennt. Es gibt einen Kategorienbaum im Bereich der Griechischen Vasenmalerei, den haben sie mit ihren Änderungen "zerschossen". Natürlich darf die Paestanische Vasenmalerei unter Paestanischer Kunst einsortiert werden. Aber erst auf höherer Ebene. "Paestan vase-painters" -> "Category:Paestan pottery" -> "Category:Art of Paestum". Wir haben uns etwas dabei gedacht, als wir dieses System (das sie als Archäologe ja kennen müßten) zum Kategorienbaum gemacht haben. Dazu gehört etwa die Fünfteilung bei Unteritalisch/Sizilischer rotfiguriger Keramik mit Paestanischer Keramik als eigenständigem Gebiet. Grüße. Marcus Cyron 23:05, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
Ueber Kampanische Vasenmahlerei kann ich mich auch geirrt haben. Aber Sie haben meine Frage nicht beantwortet. Wofür diese Kreisel-Kategorien? Thank you! --DenghiùComm 18:23, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Inscription Painter

Hi Marcus. We now have pictures of both Inscription Painters, so we need to disambiguate. Do you have any idea for naming? category:Inscription Painter (black-figure) and category:Inscription Painter (red-figure) perhaps ? Jastrow (Λέγετε) 12:53, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Some new Shuvalov Painter pictures (Image:Woman servant Shuvalov Painter MAN.jpg and Image:Woman servant Shuvalov Painter MAN.jpg) for you ;-) Jastrow (Λέγετε) 14:10, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
Great :). I daily look at your'e (and Bibi's too) gallery and so often I found new images. It's really amazing. Because of problems with my computer and my voyage to greece a wasn't able to create the Shuvalov-painter-article as wide I wanted. Now I hope I find the time to expand it. Inclusive a list of all known wors. So every picture will helps to make the list better.
Depending the Inscription Painter I would prefer an geographic specification: category:Inscription Painter (Attica) and category:Inscription Painter (Chalkidiki). But I also have not really a problem with your suggestion. Marcus Cyron 15:38, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

deprecated function in your monobook.js

Dear user, I noticed that you use the includePage function in your monobook.js page.

This function is now obsolete, as the importScript function was introduced with rev:35064 to the MediaWiki Javascript core library wikibits.js. It also keeps track of already imported files.

To allow us to remove includePage from Mediawiki:Common.js I'd kindly ask you to replace its use with importScript (same syntax!). Thanks! --Dschwen 17:03, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Which line replace whith which text? I'm a DAU, I need a direct explentation. Marcus Cyron 21:08, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
Hoi Marcus, I replaced the occurrence for you. Jastrow (Λέγετε)
Thanks :). Marcus Cyron 20:17, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Arthur_Rimbaud_01.PNG

Hi, Marcus. I just wanted to let you know: yesterday you deleted the image Arthur_Rimbaud_01.PNG from Commons because it was duplicated. It happens that CommonsDelinker removed the reference to the image altogether instead of replacing the image by the duplicated version (See this diff). I already corrected this page (I tried to guess what image was there) but this may have affected other wikis as well. Can something be done about it? Regards, Malafaya 15:46, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Normally Bibi does it. I checked and changed it now and changed the names, where it was possible. Thanks for remembering. Marcus Cyron 19:54, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Giggy's RfB

G'day

I just wanted to say a huge thanks for your support in my RfB. It just closed, and I'm now a bureaucrat. If you ever want to discuss any of my actions, as a 'crat, admin, or plain old user, please don't hesitate to leave a note on my talk page.

Cheers, giggy (:O) 10:47, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

OK. But I don't think you will produce problems ;). Marcus Cyron 16:35, 24 May 2008 (UTC)


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My Request for Adminship

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Thank you for voting in my request for adminship, which passed with 25 support, 4 oppose, and 3 neutral. I'm honoured that the community have granted me the administrative tools. If there is anything, then do not hesitate to ask me.

Thank you for the nomination Rocket, it wouldn't have been possible otherwise. Kanonkas(talk)

If their is anything be sure to leave me a note! --Kanonkas(talk) 18:24, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Greek Etrurian or Etruscan?

Hi Marcus, I need your expertise concerning this vase (see also a detail). Is it a Greek vase from Etruria or an Etruscan vase?

I noted your requests concerning vases in the Louvre. I can't find the Lasimos Krater on the Atlas database, so I'll just keep my eyes peeled for it. There is a situla in the Louvre collections but the only lakaina is in storage... I'll normally go to the Louvre this week-end. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 08:04, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Re:Bitte um Hilfe

Hallo Marcus, in der Beschreibung des Bildes steht auf Polnisch, dass der Autor des Fotos damit einverstanden ist, dieses Bild unter der CC-Lizenz zu veröffentlichen. Es wurde von einem Admin der polnischen Wikipedia runtergeladen. Ich werde Ihn fragen, ob schon eine Mail an das OTRS-System gegangen ist. Wahrscheinlich ist das in Hast gemacht worden, da die Frau heute verstorben ist. In der polnischen Wikipedia steht, dass Sie im Jahre 2007 mit Volleyball aus gesundheitlichen Gründen aufgehört hat. Kannst Du also auf de-wiki abändern. Mfg. Pimke 20:32, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Ich danke dir. Du warst einmal mehr eine große Hilfe :). Es wird alles zur Richtigkeit geändert. Marcus Cyron 20:41, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Hieron/Makron

You're right of course, I wasn't paying attention. I guess you noticed the pictures of the Eurytios Krater. Do you need more? Jastrow (Λέγετε) 07:25, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I saw the pictures and used some of them already in the article. Thanks a lot (one more time :)). If you have more - it's OK. But I think you musn't take more pictures. I don't have material for a bigger article, so I only can use some of the images. Marcus Cyron 12:24, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

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Hi, Marcus

I contacted you quite a while ago regarding some German OTRS stuff that you helped me with. Would it be okay if I could ask you another favour? I'm expecting a permission email for images on the Afrikaans Wikipedia which will most likely be in German. When/If it comes in, could I give you the ticket number so that you can check if everything's okay? My German is okay for day-to-day stuff, but for something like this I'd rather ask a native's opinion. If you're too busy, I don't mind contactin another German OTRS member. Anrie 12:00, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

It's Ticket#: 2008061010088871 . Anrie 12:23, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
I'm just a bit worried, since it refers only to the article the images appear in, and not the relevant images themselves. Images exist independent of the articles they appear in. Am I being too fussy? Anrie 12:28, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
I don't have OTRS-Access. Marcus Cyron 12:41, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
hmm... somewhere I got my lines crossed. I'll go search the list for someone else, then. Thank you and sorry to bother you. Anrie 12:46, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
No problem. :) Marcus Cyron 12:47, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

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Hi Marcus. Can I bother you with a small request? I studied German for 9 years but my writing abilities are close to nil. Would you be as kind as to translate User:Jastrow/Credits in German? Given that my pictures are mostly related to Greek antiquities, I feel ashamed not to offer a credit notice in Winckelmann's language. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 14:47, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

So often you had helped me in the last time, you can be shure, I will help you with such a little "problem" :). I would do it in german in that way:

Dieses Foto wurde von Marie-Lan Nguyen (user:Jastrow) gemacht und unter der angegebenen Lizenz veröffentlicht. Bei Beachtung dieser Lizenzbedingungen und bei Angabe meines Namens erlaube ich Jedermann die unbeschränkte freie Verwendung des Bildes.

Beispiel:  © Marie-Lan Nguyen / Wikimedia Commons

Wenn sie eines meiner Bilder außerhalb eines Projektes der Wikimedia-Foundation verwenden, wäre ich dankbar, wenn sie mir eine Information zukommen lassen würden (mail jastrow At char.svg pip-pip DOT org).

-- Marcus Cyron 15:58, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Vielen Dank! Jastrow (Λέγετε) 18:06, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

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Not in any political missión

If you don't think that some ancient art, expecialy Greek, is part of gay culture is your problem, but I had put that category by political intention, as I think about you, is in order to people can find that imagenes when is creating articules about gays in ancient times. And I had put the category just in imagenes involving male sexual relations.--Osado (talk) 19:24, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Then create a correct Category. Marcus Cyron (talk) 21:28, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Lagash.JPG

Who are "The Oriental Institute", and (under the GFDL 1.2 under which Image:Lagash.JPG is licensed) do I need to credit them, or you, if I use a derivative work based on it?

I don't know. I had take the picture from the en:WP. Sorry, can't say more about it. Marcus Cyron (talk) 16:44, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Plemochoai

Hi Marcus. I wouldn't be as affirmative as you are. I know some authors argue that the correct name is "exaleiptron", but authors still use "plemochoe" and I find more hits on JSTOR with plemochoe/plemochoai than with exaleiptron/exaleiptra. For instance, Joan Reilly writes in 1989 “I retain the term plemochoe as it is a generally understood designation for the vase" and I find articles where authors use both "exaleiptron" and "plemochoe" in the same sentence, e.g. in James Whitler “Archaeology in Greece, 2004-2005”, “four ceramic vessels (a black-glazed lekythos, a Cor exaleiptron, an Attic plemochoe…)". Perhaps it would be best to keep the categories separate and the use "exaleiptron" only for tripodic exaleiptra. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 06:41, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Hmmm. All my literature say strictly, that we don't know what a Plemochoe at the end is. The Name is known because on Athenaios, also for what ist was used. But how the shape really is - we don't know. Scheibler and Schiering, two of the most prolific archeologists in vase research (vases, not vase painting). Zje differences you mean we also have for instance at the Pyxides. Some have a tripod stand, other no stand. I never found both names in scientific literature, only when there's written, that it's not the same. But I also don't want with my head throu the wall. Marcus Cyron (talk) 00:47, 3 August 2008 (UTC) PS: We should do it in the way of the Beazley-Archive, I wild say. Marcus Cyron (talk) 23:24, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

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Dear Marcus, Thank You for your picture here: Image:EgyptMuseumBerlin2007029.JPG. I wonder if you have a small web link for your Ancient Egyptian pictures? I did not know of this picture's existence until I saw it being used on a French wikipedia article. My friend Captmondo has a useful web link for all his pictures here: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Captmondo/gallery I am just looking to see if you have taken any other photos of objects from Ancient Egypt...that is all. Thank You, --Leoboudv (talk) 08:22, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Im made some pictures at the "session" last year, you can find them there. If you need some special, tell me, I will be in Berlin for some days in the next months, I think. And I ever visit the archeological collections there. Marcus Cyron (talk) 13:47, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
  • Yes they are indeed excellent images. Thank You Marcus for your photos. Unfortunately I live in Western Canada where there are no Egyptian museums or galleries--only minor visting ones. PS: You may be interested to know about Common's change of policy of 'faithful reproductions of 2D' art on Village Pump here The discussion will be archived in 5 days but there are some link to the change of policy. I asked Mr. Maggs to give an example of 2D art and he gave one in this discussion Hope this helps, --Leoboudv (talk) 19:21, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
We are a little bit luckier in Germany. Berlin has an important egyptian collection, also Leipzig, Hildesheim and Munich. Next month I will be the first time in Munich... - the other theme: the easier, the better. Marcus Cyron (talk) 22:01, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
  • Good luck in Munich. Perhaps I am wrong but I think there are many images from the Altes museum in Berlin on Commons but not many from Munich. It is a pity that the Egyptians have banned photography taking in the Cairo Museum since March 2005. It would have been better if the SCA had charged a visiting tourist $1 or $2 per photo but the Cairo Museum is much too small and crowded for photo taking today. There are actually many images from Tutankhamun's collection on Commons but little for the treasures of Tanis. It is a miracle that someone even bothered to take this excellent photo at the Cairo Museum before photography was banned: Image:Stela of Tuthmosis I.jpg. It was nice contacting you. Regards from Metro Vancouver, Canada. --Leoboudv (talk) 05:44, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
We wait for the new Museum in Cairo... ;) Marcus Cyron (talk) 09:33, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
  • Sebi/Neithsabes on French Wikipedia hinted at the same thing. Have you heard any (good?) news about it? Sebi was in Egypt in 2005 (from the dates of his wonderful Commons photos) but only after the photo ban came into force which is unfortunate. As they say, sometimes a picture is worth a thousand words. Cheers, --Leoboudv (talk) 10:05, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
    • Some Wiki-Friends of me were there last month (Wikimania in Alexandria). They only told about the chaos there. But I don't have really News about a new museum. It's only idea in progress. I hope not too far. Marcus Cyron (talk) 12:49, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

You try to talk with the chief fanatic... Marcus Cyron (A) 10:50, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Hatte das irgendeine tiefergehende Bedeutung oder warum muss das sein? Forrester [[ hate+love letters ]] 08:47, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Weil es so ist. Histo ist ein Fanatiker. Er hat sein Ziel vor Augen, für das er hier über Leichen geht. Reden kann man mit ihm nicht. Im übrigen - das nächste mal bitte einen Link auf die entsprechende Stelle setzen, damit ich nicht ewig suchen muß. Ich kann mich nicht an alles erinnern, was ich irgendwann mal irgendwo geschrieben habe. Marcus Cyron (talk) 12:52, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
Wollte ich, hab ich komischerweise zweimal vergessen.... Forrester [[ hate+love letters ]] 13:13, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
Ja, mittlerweile hatte ich es ja gefunden, zum Glück stand das Datum da. Sonst hätte ich ja nicht antworten können. Histo hat das System hier schon mehrfach für seine eigenen Ziele benutzt. Das ist in meinen Augen absolut inakzeptabel. Wenn er seine Vorstellungen der Bildrechte durchsetzen will, muß er das machen. Aber nicht hier, nicht auf seine Art. Marcus Cyron (talk) 13:19, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

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Hi Marcus, I take a picture of artefact descriptions. This one does mention the Shuvalov Painter, that's why I made a picture of this particular vase! It remains possible that I photographed the wrong vase, but the description is consistent why my picture. It says (in Spanish): "anforisco (…), Pintor de Shuvalov (…) escenas de gineceo (…): en el reverso, una criada lleva una caja y unas cintas a una mujer sentada".

Meanwhile, I just came back from vacation in Palermo. I spent 3.5 hours in the archaeological museum and took a lot of vase pictures, so keep your eyes peeled on days to come! Jastrow (Λέγετε) 17:32, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

I'm waiting for the things to come :). I will be in Munich in the middle of September. First time there... First time to see Exekias' Dionysos-Kylix in real :). I will again take a lot of pictures (but I also had to uplaod so much from Athens - I need the duble time ;)).
Depending the Shuvalov Painter: It's interesting. I would bet, it's a very smal shape? This would explain this quality. But at the end I'm only an amateur. The archeologist will know what they do. Marcus Cyron (talk) 18:49, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
You're absolutely right, the amphoriskos is only a few centimetres high. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 20:00, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

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The kothon strikes back

Hi Marcus, re our discussion about kotha, plemochoai and exaleiptra, is there a reason why you didn't ask me to rename category:kotha? Jastrow (Λέγετε) 10:10, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Here are the kotha correct named (as far as I can see it). But someties there is a mess with all three. For Boardman Plemochoe and Exaleiptron are other names for kothon. Maybe it's possible, that every country has his own nomenclatura? How ever, we must find here maybe an own way. Marcus Cyron (talk) 11:58, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
OK. So I guess Image:Kothon MAR Palermo NI1637.jpg is OK, because it looks a lot like those you kept in the category. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 13:04, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
I will ask a professional - I know some from my time at the Humboldt-University in Berlin. Marcus Cyron (talk) 18:50, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

The answer came fast. It's like we thought. There's no correct way to name them all. All three are names from the ancient literature and not easy to order. We must build our own system. So we could do it in the old was. Plemochoe the round form, Exaleiptron the Tripod form and Kothon the third. Marcus Cyron (talk) 11:09, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

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Help me to explain

You had wrote Do you need such comments? Do you feel better now? Stop such things. on my vote page. Who you addressed to? To me or the author of the comment go back to the other wiki? I had one misunderstood recently and I don't know having another. Regards, Sdrtirs (talk) 00:34, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

I sorted it correct under the post I mean. Not yours. Marcus Cyron (talk) 00:36, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Thank you!

Thank you very much for supporting me in my successful RfB. If you ever need anything, please don't hesitate to ask. Cheers, Rocket000(talk) 21:57, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Re: Image:Trinacria.jpg

Hi! (Sorry for my english) I take the informations from the official site: Ars Siciliae, [3]. --Dedda71 (talk) 08:29, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

OK, thank. I must see, what I can do there, because actually it's false in this way.... Marcus Cyron (talk) 12:27, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

SUL-usurp?

...hallo Marcus! noch vor dem SUL (mit dem ich ich unter meinem endgültigen namen automatisch auch eingeloggt bin) hatte ich eine umbenennung von Benutzer:Ullipurwin -> Benutzer:Ulli Purwin. jetzt bin ich leider nicht mehr der ersteller meiner eigenen bilder - was muß ich tun? bin mir nich sicher, ob der 'usurp'-request so richtig war... gruß, --ulli purwin (talk) 00:11, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Natürlich bist du der Ersteller deiner Bilder. Mach doch einfach eine Weiterleitung. Dann wird zwar nicht der Editcount zusammen gezählt, allerdings sollte klar sein, daß du du bist. Irgendwann wird sicher der Moment kommen, wo man die Accounts zusammen legen kann. Marcus Cyron (talk) 15:59, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
...et iss nich nur der editcount - der sieht bei mir ja traditionell überall schlecht aus ;)) - ich fände einen merge der accounts auch sonst sinnvoll (es gibt schon zuviele 'angebrochene' user). wenn der geforderte diff-link ausreicht, hoffe ich auf einen gnädigen Bürokraten: dann wird mein 'username/talk' auch hier gleich zum blue-link :) ! warten wirs mal ab, --ulli purwin (talk) 16:12, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
Mergen ist derzeit noch nicht möglich, soweit ich weiß. Aktuell kannst du dir nur mit redirects zwischen den Accounts helfen. Marcus Cyron (talk) 16:16, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
...ging doch! Giggy did it :)) ! gruß, --Ulli Purwin (talk) 15:27, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
Na Büdde! Marcus Cyron (talk) 18:02, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Frage zu Keramikbildern

Hallo Marcus,

gibt es zu Deinen Fotos der Tonschüsseln ([4]) eventuell einen Fundort? Ich würde nämlich (was schon längst überfällig ist) gerne eine Kat. "Ancient Roman pottery in Germany" einrichten, die sich dann auch hier finden soll. An Bildmaterial mangelt es jedenfalls nicht (habe schon einiges hochgeladen irgendwo da). Gruß --Haselburg-müller (talk) 10:36, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Nein, tut mir leid - Antiken-/Kunsthandel. Da bekommt man solche Infos leider nicht. Ich habe jetzt alles nachgetragen, was ich weiß. Schließt "Pottery" in deiner Vorstellung auch Tonlampen ein, oder liefe das dann unter "Ceramics"? Marcus Cyron (talk) 14:25, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
so, erledigt. Wie das mit der Begrifflichkeit im Englischen aussieht, muss ich mir erstmal wieder anlesen (ich meine mich zu erinnern, da war irgendwas...). Wie wäre es mit einer Unterkategorie für die Lampen?--Haselburg-müller (talk) 23:45, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
Würde bei der schieren Masse sicher Sinn machen. Und noch eine für figürliche Keramik und für Baukeramiken und solchen Kram. Marcus Cyron (talk) 02:31, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
Gehen wir so weiter vor. Noch ist es wenig, aber mehr als in manchen anderen Ländern. Und es wird wachsen. Werde demnächst mal das Gerümpel von der Haselburg einordnen. Mal etwas anderes: Hast Du schonmal auf Commons einen Löschantrag gestellt? Das kommt mir irgendwie recht kompliziert vor. Mein spezieller Freund hat anscheinend eine URV hingelegt (Image:Zhg40 bingemer skizze1.jpg). Bingemer starb 1955 ([5]). Außerdem sollte man doch da schon beim Hessischen Landesamt für geschichtliche Landeskunde um Erlaubnis fragen, bevor man kopiert. Bevor ich mir die Mühe mache - ginge da auch eine Schnellöschung?--Haselburg-müller (talk) 00:41, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
Alles wächst. Wenn ich an unsere Anfänge bei den griechischen Vasen denke... - und jetzt sieht es dort super aus. Aber immerhin kümmern wir uns dort auch zu dritt drum. Um die Ordnerei und um Bildernachschub. Wenn erstmal ein funktionierendes System vorhanden ist, funktioniert der Rest manschmal fast wie von allein.
Löschanträge habe ich schon, wenn auch selten gestellt. Ich mache es, wenn ich sicher bin meist auf dem kurzen Dienstweg. Eben weil ich es auch übermäßig kompliziert finde. Aber es gibt immerhin ein kleines Hilfsmittel. In deinen Einstellungen gibt es die Rubrik "Gadgets". Dort "Quick Delete: adds very useful links for admins, to tag images as without source / licence / for deletion, and notify users accordingly." anklicken und du müßtest am linken Rand eine Liste von Löschbegründungen finden. Auf die passende drücken und alles müßte automatisch funktionieren. Um welches Bild handelt es sich eigentlich? Das von dir genannte finde ich nicht. Schnelllöschungen sind in solchen Fällen nicht so gut, das bringt nur Ärger. Besser hier den korrekten Weg gehen. Marcus Cyron (talk) 01:30, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Akesilas Cup

Hi Marcus, I'll try to go this Saturday. I'll also do a new round in the Petit Palais.

Btw, would you have any pointers on Lakonian pottery? I'm working on fr:Sparte for the French autumn wikicontest. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 12:36, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

In my wikiplans also the article "Sparta" is in my mind. But I would belive, I can start with this article not so early. Two days ago I worked here a little bit in the laconian section. As far as I could realise, the work of Stibbe is often critizised, but at the end his "8 lacoinian painters are known" is accepted. We have Images by 5 of them. So we need Images of works be the "Boread Painter", the "Chimeira Painter" and the "Typhon Painter". If you could find worfs of them, pictures would be fine. At the end it's like ever - I'm happy about all, mostly for artists, we don't have actually. And as you know, we're missing more, than we have ;). Marcus Cyron (talk) 14:06, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
The Louvre has works by many of these painters but they are in the storerooms. There was a big flood in Paris in the 1910s and part of the Louvre was under the water. It's a "one in a century" type of catastrophe and people are starting to sweat because it's been almost a century now and the big flood still hasn't hit us. So there is this big "flood prevention plan" in the Louvre, which basically means that some rooms in the upper floors are closed to the public and used as storerooms. So two rooms in the Campana Gallery, which holds the collections of Greek vases, are now closed. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 14:21, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
Then I can my plans to visit Paris go on very slowly, until the room are opend again. I remeber Athens - I was two days in the National Museum, but the second floor with the ceramics were closed the second day. But I don't think because of possible coming water (they had the catastrophy some years ago with an earthquake). Depending Water I remember the chaos in Dresden 2002 (Elbe flood) what also hit some museums very hard. Marcus Cyron (talk) 14:56, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Image:Tondo Akesilas Cup CdM 189.jpg is all I could do. They close the shutters when it's sunny outside, so there's not much light. I'll try again for some details when the weather will be cloudy. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 09:37, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Hello :). First, I know this problem with light, that directly shines through the vetrines. But - the Image ist wonderfull! Great! Thanks a lot! :) Marcus Cyron (talk) 21:21, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Bilder von Theodor Mommsen

Hallo Marcus, du hast bereits vor einiger Zeit mehrere Bilder von Theodor Mommsen hochgeladen. Leider hast du bei einem Großteil davon keine Quellenangaben angegeben. Würdest du das bitte noch nachholen? Andernfalls muss ich die Bilder markieren. Danke und beste Grüße, -- ChrisiPK (Talk|Contribs) 23:28, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Woher soll ich das denn noch wissen. Das ist ewig her und zu der Zeit waren Quellenangaben noch keine Pflicht. Zudem ist der Mann seit 1903 tot. Die Bilder sind alle mindestens 105 Jahre alt. Auch in diesem Projekt sollte man endlich mal mit etwas mehr Verstand an die Sache gehen, anstatt nach irgendwelchen Richtlinien vorzugehen, die keinen Sinn machen. Marcus Cyron (talk) 12:31, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
Hallo Marcus, ich werde die Bilder markieren, vielleicht findet sich ja jemand anderes, der eine Quelle hat. Grüße, -- ChrisiPK (Talk|Contribs) 12:57, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
Ich habe alle wieder gefunden. Glücklicher Zufall. Marcus Cyron (talk) 13:01, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
Hey Marcus, habe gerade gesehen, dass du ja doch eine Quelle gefunden hast. Leider habe ich aber für die meisten deiner Bilder auf den angegebenen Websites keine Autoreninformationen finden können, weshalb die Gemeinfreiheit nicht nachgeprüft werden kann. Habe ich etwas übersehen? Falls ja, tut es mir leid. Grüße, -- ChrisiPK (Talk|Contribs) 13:13, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Also nochmal: Mommsen ist seit 1903 TOT! Seitdem werden keine Fotos mehr gemacht. Die anderen Bilder entstanden auch zu Lebzeiten. Das heißt, alle sind mehr als 100 Jahre alt, zum eil weitaus mehr. Gesunder Menschenverstand muß hier doch wohl reichen. Ich weiß, daß der offenbar an sich nicht auf den Commons gefragt ist - aber ich glaube trotzdem daran. Marcus Cyron (talk) 14:45, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Hallo Marcus, ja, das wirkt recht bizarr, dass es nicht nach Alter der Fotos geht, sondern nach Sterbedatum des Autors. Beispiel: Ein 30jähriger fotografiert Mommsen gegen 1900. Die Person wird 80 Jahre alt, lebt also bis 1950. Dann sind die Bilder alle bis 2020 geschützt. Das ist ein durchaus plausibles Szenario, was bedeutet, dass diese Bilder durchaus noch geschützt sein können. Wenn du so sehr an den Bildern hängst, kannst du als Admin in der deutschen Wikipedia sie dort über die Commons-Bilder drüberladen. Die zu wählende Lizenz wäre {{Bild-PD-alt-100}}. Diesen Schritt kann ich dir leider nicht abnehmen, weil nur Administratoren das Recht haben, lokale Bilder unter demselben Namen wie Commons-Bilder hochzuladen. In diesem Fall bleiben alle Einbindungen in der deutschen Wikipedia von der Löschung auf Commons unberührt. Grüße, -- ChrisiPK (Talk|Contribs) 16:43, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Hallo Marcus, nachdem du die Seiten eingetragen hast, wurden viele Bilder von unterschiedlichen Admins blindlings behalten, ohne Ansehen der eigentlichen Quelle. Daher habe ich jetzt einen Deletion Request aufgemacht (siehe Commons:Deletion requests/Theodor Mommsen images) mit allen Bildern, bei denen die Quelle keinen Urheber und/oder kein Datum angibt, das für PD-old ausreichen würde. So bekommen die Bilder doch etwas mehr Aufsehen, möglicherweise findet sich ja jemand, der dazu einen Urheber kennt. Grüße, -- ChrisiPK (Talk|Contribs) 13:46, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Category:Cyron Collection

Great Scot, you actually own those artefacts? (^_^;) <-tries to hide intense feelings of jealousy Jastrow (Λέγετε) 13:54, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Don't expect too much - I have a very small collection. The Kylix actually isn't mine yet - it will be my Christmas present (and birthday present too) by my parents. Actually my two main vases are missing at commons (I must upload them, but I have hundreds, maybe some thousand pictures waiting for upload). A black-figure Lekythos showing Heracles fighting Nessos and a red-figure Oinochoe with Hector leaving Troja to fight Achilleus. All of my Artefacts were at the time I bought them not expensive (I again and again surprised, how often there are really cheep antiquities). Only the three figured-vases cost a little more, but all under 400 €. You only have to take a look at Ebay. Examples: [6], [7], [8], [9], [10], [11], [12], [13], [14], [15], [16] or [17]. Marcus Cyron (talk) 15:13, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Kartoffelesser, Dein Upload 2005, und Aufräumen bei "van Gogh"

Hi, auf http://www.vangoghgallery.com/catalog/Graphic/1948/Potato-Eaters,-The.html finde ich das vermutlich selbe Bild Image:Kartoffelesser-F082 supF1661-L.jpg seitenverkehrt.

Kannst Du eine Angabe zur Herkunft Deines Uploads machen? Ich beabsichtige mich in nächster Zeit ein wenig intensiver mit v. Gogh zu beschäftigen und würde gern die Kategorie(n) und Bildbeschreibungen etwas "aufräumen".

Hilfe und Rückmeldung jeder Art seitens "Oldies" wäre demgemäß höchst erwünscht. Lieben Gruß, --WeHaWoe (talk) 23:42, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Tut mir leid. Nach 3 Jahren kann ich das nicht mehr sagen. War zumindest leicht im Internet zu finden. Am Besten suchen und dabie Wikipedia und Commons ausschließen. Marcus Cyron (talk) 03:27, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
ACK+done. Gemäß http://books.google.at/books?id=2Kh9D7cpyLAC&pg=PA818&lpg=PA818&dq=Kartoffelesser+lithographie+-wikipedia+-site:uncyclopedia.org+-site:foodnews.ch&source=web&ots=CXAg1DQJ-R&sig=0DRRxDvLlOIK_vJUxsW1JyC_gio&hl=de&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=5&ct=result dürfte das von Dir hochgeladene Bild seitenverkehrt dargestellt worden sein, DAMIT es anschaulicher zum Ölgemälde passt: v.Gogh hat ja auch seine Selbstporträts bequemerweise gern seitenverkehrt gemalt, demgemäß offenbar auch die Lithoplatte gleich wie das Gemälde gestaltet, mit seitenverkehrtem Ergebnis auf Papier.
Betreffend Aufräumarbeiten würde ich mich schon sehr freuen, wenn Du längstens Mo Abend mal auf Category talk:Vincent van Gogh vorbeischaust (natürlich nur, wenn der Link blau ist) -- ich habe dort Nachbesserungen vor, die ich nicht ohne den Ezzes Erfahrenerer in Angriff nehmen will. Meine vorbereitenden Fragen sollten längstens bis dann "ernsthaft diskussionswürdig" sein. Gruß, --WeHaWoe (talk) 12:34, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
Also erfahren bin ich da nicht. Ich hatte die Bilder hochgeladen, weil wir ein paar für den deutschen Artikel zur Kulturgeschichte der Kartoffel brauchten und dabei schlicht auf van Gogh gestoßen bin ;). Also mit ihm habe ich an sich nichts zu tun, kann bei ihm auch wenig helfen. Marcus Cyron (talk) 13:20, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
Schade, ich dachte dass Du mit der Gestaltung von Filenamen und Subkategorien etliche Erfahrung hättest. Derzeit erarbeite ich, was ich Mo vorstellen möchte, auf User talk:W./On van Gogh -- diese Unterseite soll zwar per copy+paste in besagte disku übertragen und hinterher per SLA gelöscht werden, aber wenn Du Anmerkungen+Hilfe dazu hast, wären sie höchst willkommen (hier oder DORT, oder auf meiner D-Seite).
Oder vielleicht kennst Du kompetente Leute, die sich mit derlei befassen würden und die ich anquatschen könnte? (Village pump etc. möchte ich damit wenigstens dzt. nicht befassen).
Teilweise wäre mir schon erheblich geholfen, wenn mein etwas dürftiges Englisch soweit nachgebessert würde, dass ich mich nicht zu genieren brauche, den Text nächsten Montag auf die CAT-Disku zu übertragen (und vor allem, wenn keine Missverständnisse DESWEGEN entstehen können) --WeHaWoe (talk) 14:31, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
Hallo, ich bin erst heute wieder aus Wien zurück, darum kann ich erst jetzt antworten. Ich kann dir zwei kompetente Personen im Bereich Kunst aus der deutschsprachigen Wikipedia sagen, bei denen ich in einem solchen Fall fragen würde. Das sind die Benutzer Rlberlin und Julius1990. Oder das Projekt Bildende Kunst. Versuchs einfach mal :) Marcus Cyron (talk) 21:16, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
Danke, Julius1990 habe ich soeben eine Nachricht auf deWP hinterlassen, einen User:Rlberlin finde ich jedoch weder hier noch dort. Kann das ein Tippfehler sein oder bin ich bloß zu ungeschickt?
PS: Vor allgemeinen Projektseiten habe ich ziemlichen Horror, weil die Erfahrung gemacht dass da häufig Diskutanten sich ausbreiten, und das wird mir dann schnell zu mühsam. Einzelne Leute denen ich vertraue oder die mir von Vertrauenspersonen empfohlen werden sind mir da weit lieber. Ich möchte lieber arbeiten als diskutieren; hübsches Beispiel aus jüngerer Zeit für den von mir bevorzugten Arbeitsstil ist de:Diskussion:Hang_(Musikinstrument)/Archiv, also wenn auch "was weiter geht", wie man in Österreich so sagt ;) --WeHaWoe (talk) 06:32, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
Tippfehler meinerseits, ich meinte de:Benutzer:Rlbberlin. Das Projekt Bildende Kunst gehört zu den Oasen, wo es noch eine Diskussionskultur gibt. Das ist eines der guten Beispiele, wo alles so läuft, wie es laufen sollte. Marcus Cyron (talk) 11:47, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
Rlbberlin habe ich soeben kontaktiert, mit Promotion auf der Projektseite warte ich lieber bis mindestens morgen, je nachdem was+wieviel heute nachts (hoffentlich) an Feedback kommt, um ggf. das Exposé vorher noch nachzubessern, statt erst, wenn bereits etliche Meinungen ggf. durcheinanderschwirren. Lieben Dank, --WeHaWoe (talk) 12:44, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Linkfix+Streichung. Naja, +betr. Disku-Kultur unter Kunstartikelverfassern/de -- die haben mich dort ;) ganz schön zu rupfen versucht ;) Wolfgang (talk) 14:48, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Commons requires a little tiding.

Hi, thanks for trusting me as admistrator. I will be trying to make a good use of this tools, and using it with care. Surely this will motivate me to work more on the project, as well as in other areas ;) Sfu (talk) 09:31, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Italian problems

Hi Marcus, I think you should read this. There is at least one photo you took among those that the Sopraintendenza ai Beni Culturali dell'Etruria meridionale want to be deleted. There is no consensus on deleting all the photos, but you may want to have the photos you uploaded to be deleted. Bye --Jaqen (talk) 23:18, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Hello, I don't made the Photo, it's from a book, I only have scanned and uploaded it. Ofcorse I want to hold it. Marcus Cyron (talk) 04:24, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Well, it's up to you. Anyway, are you sure that it is a two-dimensional work of art? Isn't it a *three*-dimensional urn or something like that? --Jaqen (talk) 17:28, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

It's not so easy to say. Depends on the kind of the shape. Some Kylikes are flat inside, some are not. Here it's so, that it's inside a flat version, so the painted image is 2D. But the Object itself is 3D. The Image shown only the 2D-Inside. Marcus Cyron (talk) 20:04, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Rodler

Servus. Du sag mal, Category:Lugers_from_Germany is ok oder? Category:Lugers hab ich auch nachgezogen. Hoffe ich hab nix falsch gemacht --Schitti (talk) 20:46, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Klar - ich werkele da auch grade. Marcus Cyron (talk) 20:49, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
Hab ich gesehen. Daher hab ich dich gefragt ob alles ok ist. Category:Bobsledders from Germany auch angelegt ;-) --Schitti (talk) 20:55, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
Sehr gut - ich bin auch erstmal hier am sortieren, dann klappt das nutzen hinterher besser. Marcus Cyron (talk) 20:58, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Keine Ahnung von Kartoffeln ;)

Hallo Markus, ich habe für File:Potato-lifters-02SEPT 84-hell.jpg soeben einen unvollständigen DR gestellt -- eigentlich bedarf es keiner Diskussion, wollte Dich aber nicht mit einem SLA "überfallen": Kartoffeln wurden im Stehen gesetzt (man ließ sie in die Grube fallen, daher oft 2 Personen, einer gräbt, die andere sät), und zum Ernten musste man sich hinknien -- was heute nicht mehr alle nicht wissen -- Du bist also in Gesellschaft ;)

Vorschlag: Du leierst den delinker an und exekutierst danach gleich selber den Speedy.

ceterum censeo:
Ich brauche Feedback, es nervt unheimlich wenn ich Kategorien anlege die dann zu Recht umbenannt werden weil die Namen nicht den Konventionen entsprechen. Bitte schau auf Category_talk:Vincent_van_Gogh#Requests vorbei und gib Deinen Kommentar ab, oder verweise mich an Nicht-Deutsche en=4 "mit denen man kann." Die dzt. Anti-de Stimmung, die ein konstruktives Arbeiten hier erheblich behindert, nervt nämlich inzwischen auch. lg, Wolfgang (talk) 08:16, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Du kannst Wünsche haben. Am nächsten kommt deinen Wünschen wohl das Commons:WikiProject Museums. Ansonsten habe ich hier wirklich neinen blassen Dunst. Ich sortiere eigentlich antike Kunst und Sportler. Eine Anti-Deutsche Stimmung kann ich an sich nicht fest stellen. Marcus Cyron (talk) 12:49, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
Danke für Deine prompte Reaktion. Mit Stimmung meinte ich, was da um einen imo zurecht von Deutschen angeleierten de-admin hochkocht(e?) -- das sah wirklich nach "witchhunting"/"canvassing" aus, aber gegen die DE, während die andere Seite das Gegenteil nachzuweisen versucht(e). Ich schaue seit ein paar Tagen nicht mehr rein, da es mir das Arbeiten verleidet. Werde halt (was mir sehr schwerfällt) jetzt auch noch auf der Projektseite "Klinken putzen" gehen. Aber vorher Schritt_1 meiner Aufräumaktion, DEFAULTSORT, abschließen, wenngleich mit Mängeln. Deine Tipps bleiben mir jedenfalls willkommen. Gruß, Wolfgang 09:42, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

File:No Israel.svg

Hi. I see that you deleted the above file, as you believe it to be out of scope. Could you please undelete it - I undeleted it previously following a successful UDEL request on both this image and a similar one with the Japanese flag, as other similar flags were not deleted by DRs. My opinion is that while Commons:Deletion requests/Image:Israel flag crossed.png is ongoing, the images should not be deleted. Then, following the resolution provided by this DR, all similar images should be treated in exactly the same manner, according to the dictates of the closure. Thankyou. -mattbuck (Talk) 13:50, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Oh, see Commons:Undeletion_requests/Archive/2008-11#Image:Anti_Japan.svg and Commons:Undeletion_requests/Archive/2008-11#Image:No_Israel.svg. -mattbuck (Talk) 13:53, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
I concur with Mattbuck & I would like you to restore this for now as their seems to be consensus for having this image. At a quick glance one may think it's an attack image, I however think this image can have potential use on articles like Anti-Zionism and Antisemitism. --Kanonkas(talk) 16:14, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
Please restore this image, there is no consensus to have it deleted. It may be tasteless, but it's not necessarily out of project scope. Wheel warring over an image is not a good solution either. Patrícia msg 17:26, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
Hi Patricia, nice to meet you here. What's up with Gryffindor? Has he lost his tools or not? Or in other words: Why is this still unclear? Regards Mutter Erde (talk) 18:30, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
That's not even relevant to this discussion. --Kanonkas(talk) 18:32, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
There is a page about it, maybe you should go and read that instead, Mutter Erde. Patrícia msg 20:30, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
I'm th 3d one who delete it - restored has only one person this image. Who is the Wheelwarrior? No. In my opinion here it is simple and only one thing possible. And all the other Flags of this kind also have to be deleted. Commons is not the point to support this hate. Wikimedia is a project on the other side. Neutrality is one of the mayor points of the project! These Images 100% not neutral. And they are not encyclopedic. So they have to be deleted. There's no question. Marcus Cyron (talk) 17:45, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
Neutrality is not the point of this project, by which I mean we don't have to delete something simply because it has a certain POV. I mean, should we delete all the kitten photos for having a pro-cat agenda? Nothing is ever truly neutral - world maps tend to go by the agreed international boundaries, but that means they are not neutral - they are anti-those who don't agree with the boundaries. There are two places in the world where neutrality is possible - chemistry and a car's gearbox. Other than that, everyone has a side, and to deny that is blatant hypocrisy. -mattbuck (Talk) 18:11, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
Oh, and what's more, they're "unencyclopaedic"? This is not an encyclopaedia. -mattbuck (Talk) 18:12, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
Marcus, wheel warring requires at least two parties. There is no innocent side on wheel warring. Commons does not aim to have neutral content, I expect you to know that in light of our project scope. No matter how tasteless images are, and how badly they can potentially be used, it is not up to us to individually determine if images are neutral or not. If they are in scope, they stay. I don't think the flags of the Third Reich are very nice either, but I have to live with them. If you can provide me a definition of a neutral image that can never ever be misused, I can rethink my opinion on this. It's not the content of the image, it's how you use it. I find it offensive to have that crossed flag on an user page saying "I hate Israelis" but that's not happening. If that happens, then we act on the page - not on the image. I hope I got my point across. I'm not insisting more about undeleting the image, I could not care less about that image in specific, but be careful with what you decide to be your next crusade on Commons. Cheers, Patrícia msg 20:30, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
My next Crussade? You're kidding. You hope that's not happening - fine! What next? Commons as propaganda-platform for Rassism and Hate? No, thanks. Can you imagine a concrete and true point, were you could use such an image without a hatefull cause? If someone could tell me, we can talk about restoring. Marcus Cyron (talk) 02:25, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
See my answer above, if you haven't. --Kanonkas(talk) 07:16, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

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Vorschusslobeern

Heute isses n Jahr her, ich würde jetzt gerne so aus Interesse wissen: Findest du, ich habe die "Positiven Erwartungen" erfüllt? Wenn nicht, so sag mir doch bitte, was ich im nächsten Jahr besser machen soll. Danke, Viele Grüße und Merry Christmas! abf /talk to me/ 14:13, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Mal davon abgesehen, daß du manchmal etwas übereifrig bist, kann man wohl nicht so viel meckern. Auch wenn du vielleicht das Eine oder andere Mal etwas runterschrauben solltest. Aber was werde ich Jemanden über Wiki-Sucht erzählen wollen... Marcus Cyron (talk) 22:27, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

CRV

Hi Marcus, thanks for the info. I released this picture into the public domain, so I don't see this use as a copyvio. I doubt the guy who took the picture bothered to check, though :) Jastrow (Λέγετε) 20:01, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

I should have checked it before. I thought it was a CC-by with some rights for you're pictures. But so the picture is OK. The Screenshot not, I would say. Not without giving the GNU somewere... ;). Marcus Cyron (talk) 22:42, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

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Weihnachts-SPAM.

Hi, I'm aware that Christmas greetings are more-or-less to be considered to be SPAM, but I can't help:
Here is one more, which is from me.
Although I might have [and might in the future] disagree with you, I'd like to ascertain you that I respect and love you. Believe it or not. [w.] 16:54, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Disagreeing is needed. A world were al people have the same opinion - a imagination of pure horror. So have a merry christmas and a happy new year. And we hope to have next year new rounds of different Opinions. Only this brings us forward. Marcus Cyron (talk) 22:41, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
+1 ;)) [w.] 15:10, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Please help

Hi Marcus, if you have a time please vote to delete hate propaganda images listed below. Thank you.--Mbz1 (talk) 00:51, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

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No - this isn't like the flag. This is like the Muhammed-Caricatures. With such things we must life. Marcus Cyron (talk) 20:08, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for the response,Marcus. Sorry but I cannot agree with you. No Muhammad caricatures were ever uploaded to Commons, and if they were, I would have been the first one to vote for their deletion.--Mbz1 (talk) 00:35, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the Christmas review!

Rayon de soleil et hirondelle 2.jpg

Hi Marcus Cyron/Archiv2. I would like to thank you for the interest you have shown in my request for adminship, and for the time you have taken to review my profile. As a Christmas present I've just been given the admin tools, for which I'm thankful as well. I have understood all the remarks that have been made during the review period. I will take them into account and begin using the tools with much care, until I gain more experience and self-confidence. Thanks again, and Merry Christmas! --Eusebius (talk) 15:12, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

L[uy]siades

Hi Marcus, a very happy new year to you too! Concerning L[uy]siades, you're absolutely right. As you know υ can be translated as y or u, I hadn't thought to check whether Lysiades was a well-known potter or not. Do you thing we should create a category:Lysiades (potter)? Also, I'll soon be going to Compiègne, a small town near Paris which happens to have a nice pottery collection. I don't know if pictures are allowed, though. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 10:40, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

The I hope, to take pictures it alloud ;). What says you're literature or the Museum? What I have see de:Lysiades (Töpfer). Marcus Cyron (talk) 12:51, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
The museum caption spells Lusiades but really, it's the same thing as Lysiades. So I'll create category:Lysiades (potter). Unfortunately the Louvre doesn't have any vases from him. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 19:03, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
Of course not ;). There's only the one, maybe a second in Boston. Marcus Cyron (talk) 14:20, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Trozzelle

Hi Marcus. Can you look at File:Nestoris trozzella MBA Lyon X681.jpg? The French caption states "nestoris à trozelle” (sic), viz. "nestoris with trozelle". AFAIK, the nestoris derives from the Messapian trozzella. The Perseus Vase Catalogue uses "nestoris (trozzella)" (for instance here). Do you think the museum made a mistake?

Also, I don't think this qualifies as Greek. Would you agree? Can we categorize it under category:Apulian pottery? Jastrow (Λέγετε) 17:46, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

I try to find out since a longer time if Trozella and Nestoris are the same shape or a different kind of shape (like our problem with Exaleiptron, Kothon and Plemochoe or my problem to find out, is the Red Swan Group a part of the Xenon-Group or are both different Groups). But I never read somewhere, one of them could be a part of the other. There must be a mistake. And I would say, we can sort it under Apulian Pottery. The Greek Influence here is so big, that it's OK. Or we sort it under Category:Italic pottery. You know, that messapian ware is not weelmade, it's handmade?! This is the big difference to the greek ware. One good thing: I now have an image for this article: de:Messapische Vase ;). Marcus Cyron (talk) 21:31, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Argive/Argivian

Hi Marcus. I renamed Category:Argivian pottery and Category:Argivian Geometric pottery into Category:Argive pottery and Category:Argive Geometric pottery as it seems 'Argive' is the correct form. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 18:54, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Fine - often I'm unsure, my english isn't the best (you know ;)). Marcus Cyron (talk) 19:41, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks ..

...for the RFB support. --MichaelMaggs (talk) 09:31, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Proposal to change allowable scope of userpage content

I have made a proposal to specify more clearly what is and what is not allowed on usepages. You have expressed interest in this issue, and you may wish to comment at Commons_talk:Project_scope/Pages,_galleries_and_categories#The use of userpages to advance personal political opinions. --MichaelMaggs (talk) 21:47, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Category:Etruscan pottery by shape

Hi Marcus,

I'm a bit confused with this new cat, since we did not until now precise a cultural area for pottery by shape (see for instance Category:Hydriai, which contains any hydriai—no matter if they are Etruscan or Greek or anything else).

Creating such cats for Etruscan pottery would in fact lead to do the same for Greek pottery, but this is really a big work and it is not sure how convenient the current category scheme is to do so (should we create “Ancient Greek belly amphoras” and “Etruscan belly amphoras”?).

In my opinion, the old way to do (one cat for the shape like Category:Belly amphoras, the other one for the painter/style like Category:Etruscan black-figure pottery or Category:Eagle Painter—which give an explicit or implicit way to know the cultural area of the pottery) was good enough until here.

What do you think about that? Bibi Saint-Pol (sprechen) 10:10, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Category:Hydriai ist an Undercat from Category:Ancient Greek pottery by shape. There we should not sort Vases from other regions and of other material (bronce hydrias). We also have some of those Cats: Category:Ancient Greek amphoras, Category:Ancient Greek cups, Category:Ancient Greek lids, Category:Ancient Greek clay pipes, Category:Ancient Greek plates, Category:Ancient Greek pyxides and Category:Ancient Greek vase supports. We must realize, that the greek ceramics are the archeological lead-shapes for a lot of archeological cultures. So etruscan, so roman, so egyptian, so near and middle east or also prehistoric. We can do it without diffenrence between the archeological cultures, But then our Cat-system will be getting chaotic. Then there will be a lot of vases categorized in the false overcats. Marcus Cyron (talk) 11:37, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
But if so, there should have a link between Category:Hydriai and Category:Etruscan hydriai. And the second should logically be a child of the first. Meaning that a cat Category:Ancient Greek hydriai should be created, where the current content of Category:Hydriai should be transferred... and so for all the cats by shape. It would probably be the best thing to do, but that's a lot of work. Bibi Saint-Pol (sprechen) 13:17, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
You're absolutely right. But sometimes and somewhere we must start. The change in the greek cats should be done by a bot I would say. Marcus Cyron (talk) 14:50, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
Of course a bot will be much more convenient to do the job :) Bibi Saint-Pol (sprechen) 15:05, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
As far I can see, we're the same opinion :). Marcus Cyron (talk) 15:33, 29 January 2009 (UTC)


Kreis Angermünde

Warum diese Änderung? Herzsprung gehört doch zur Stadt Angermünde. --Botaurus (talk) 18:44, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Weil das der Originaltext ist des Bundesarchivs ist. Diese Texte sollen nicht geändert werden. Korrekturen kannst du andernorts der Beschreibung ergänzen. Marcus Cyron (talk) 19:22, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Der Originaltext im BA hat nichts mit der Kategorisierung bei Wikimedia zu tun. Im BA haben die Bilder ohnehin nur Nummern als Namen. Der nicht zu verändernde Originaltext des BA befindet sich im Kasten weiter oben. --Botaurus (talk) 01:40, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Bist du nicht Willens oder in der Lage zu lesen, was dort auskommentiert steht? Please leave as is, add appropriate categories directly. Marcus Cyron (talk) 19:20, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Anodino

Dear Marcus Cyron, The University is not a free license but this university has this photo of Maximian Trapero as Creative Commons --Anodino (talk) 09:19, 29 August 2014 (UTC)