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Archive rather than delete[edit]

Hello.
Your unwillingness to archive this talk page in a proper way is a contravention of an official guideline. Don‘t you deem yourself among a kind of people exempted from all this official stuff? Incnis Mrsi (talk) 15:23, 25 January 2018 (UTC)

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Túrelio (talk) 21:35, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

File:Honeymoon.jpg[edit]

Hi, the speedy delete reason for File:Honeymoon.jpg appears out of policy. Could you please undelete and raise a DR? Thanks -- (talk) 12:24, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

Please, explain removal of relevant category (note the woman holds a dissected cylindrical object). Do not provoke me into submitting a user-conduct report – ignoring user_talk regulations and an arbitrary deletion sum up to a sufficient pretext. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 16:18, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
You provoke yourself.
As you wrote, she holds "a dissected cylindrical object", which may or may not be a choco cake. If you look through that category, you will see why adding this image there is not helpful. Anyway, I would appreciate if you wrote on some other talk pages, not this one. Materialscientist (talk) 00:22, 28 January 2018 (UTC)


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Regasterios (talk) 10:23, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

Mondadori photos[edit]

Someone want to delete some photos from Mondadori agency I uploaded, like Adrien Cayla-Legrand — DS — The Day of the Jackal (1973).jpg and Harrison Ford — Raiders of the Lost Ark.jpg. He claims that those photos can't be under PD-Italy because they were not taken in Italy. Is he right ? - Groupir ! (talk) 16:12, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

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Affected:

And also:

Yours sincerely, De728631 (talk) 13:14, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

PD-Italy[edit]

@Ruthven:@Jameslwoodward:@Prosfilaes:@Lethiernois:Hello. I've read (and I guess quite understood) your analysis on the Italian law above and your further today comments on other deletion requests. So I would like to know your comment on this one : why should a photography by Angelo Deligio should be deleted from Commons and others by Mario De Biasi (or others) be kept ? Is it an administrator's choice ? We had recently a discussion at COM:BI#PD-Italy upon the traduction of "scattata in Italia" and users seems to agree that Italian law may not apply to works made outside Italy (but I might be wrong). Anyway one user is asking if pictures made outside Italy before 1976 by Italian citizens ([1], [2]) are eligible for Commons. Thanks for your reply. Kind regards, Patrick Rogel (talk) 16:27, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

@Patrick Rogel: Of course Italian law applies in Italy, not in other countries! So I don't understand from where the extension to all Italian photographers comes. --Ruthven (msg) 17:10, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

Commons requires that images be free in the country of origin and in the United States. "Country of origin" usually means the country in which the image was first published, so as a general rule, Italian law should be applied only to those images that were first published in Italy. Images taken by Italian photographers outside of Italy and images taken in Italy but first published elsewhere will not, generally, have Italian law applied to them. There is a significant exception, however. If an image is published in multiple countries within thirty days, then the country of origin is the country with the shortest copyright term, see Berne Convention. .     Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 18:12, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

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Patrick Rogel (talk) 16:44, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

3 images[edit]

Dear Materialscientist,

If you have time, could you please kindly review these 3 images.

Please help, --Leoboudv (talk) 23:51, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

Checked, found no immediate problems, and hence passed. Cheers. Materialscientist (talk) 23:57, 10 February 2018 (UTC)
  • Thanks for all your kind help. Best Regards, --Leoboudv (talk) 23:58, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

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Patrick Rogel (talk) 13:04, 11 February 2018 (UTC)

File:Edgar Faure and Antoine Pinay 1955.jpg[edit]

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Patrick Rogel (talk) 13:05, 11 February 2018 (UTC)

"Monitoring""[edit]

Ah, so this DR is about me and my uploads, which User:Patrick Rogel closely monitors.

Hi. I believed you were aware that I was patroling (or "monitoring", if you wish) files within Category:PD Italy (20 years after creation) and if you didn't know it until now it's perhaps because you're not reading your talk page enough carefully (and omit to reply to questions asked there). You didn't reply either to the burden of proof I was evoking yesterday and your "obligation to properly document the files [you] upload" by proving that "this photograph has ever been published (in Italy or somewhere else)". I've praised too your recent behaviour consisting on "uploading images with first publication in Italy (from Radiocorriere) which were correctly described" and I'm sorry you if there's a misunderstanding concerning my compliments (English is not my native language). Yours, --Patrick Rogel (talk) 16:21, 12 February 2018 (UTC)

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Patrick Rogel (talk) 23:32, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

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Patrick Rogel (talk) 16:36, 18 February 2018 (UTC)

Stamps in Switzerland[edit]

Are you sure that this applies to stamps? I think it depends upon the legal definition of "means of payment". By the way, there's a disclaimer on the English translation: English is not an official language of the Swiss Confederation. This translation is provided for information purposes only and has no legal force - in the official languages it's "Zahlungsmittel" (German), "les moyens de paiement" (French), and "i mezzi di pagamento" (Italian). Also, since several years, the Swiss Post is no longer a government agency, as it used to be, but an officially "privatized", though fully state-owned limited company. So, the suggested template {{PD-Switzerland-official}} doesn't seem to fit, as the Swiss Post isn't able to issue "official" material. Maybe it's applicable for older stamps before the privatization only? Or not at all? Gestumblindi (talk) 11:49, 21 February 2018 (UTC)

"les moyens de paiement" and "i mezzi di pagamento" are undoubtedly "means of payment", and stamps are one of them. It does not matter who makes them, as long as the government accepts them as means of payment. Materialscientist (talk) 13:00, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
I'm really not sure you can emphatically state that stamps are considered in the same vein as currency, as a means of payment. Essentially stamps are only a receipt for a service to be rendered: you can't go into a shop and buy a loaf of bread, or anything else, with stamps in Switzerland AFAIK. Both Commons:Copyright rules by territory#Switzerland and Copyright law of Switzerland only mention currency under the exemptions and specifically do not mention stamps. You have also added the same type of notice to some other countries. Let me talk to a Swiss philatelic friend who might know more. Ww2censor (talk) 16:08, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
I would agree with Ww2censor: you use money (currency), i.e. "means of payment", to buy stamps, these then are a kind of receipts or vouchers for the services of a particular company (in this case, the Swiss Post AG, they will deliver your mail) - but you have paid for the stamps, not with the stamps, I'd say...? Gestumblindi (talk) 22:11, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
There are many means of payment, and long time ago all (most) governments decided to use one, money, for convenience. This was not always the case. When you "buy" stamps, you exchange one form of payment into another. Contrary to many other copyright laws, the Swiss law is rather unambiguous; if they wanted to limit the law to money, they would explicitly say so. Materialscientist (talk) 22:54, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure that "Zahlungsmittel" refers to legal tender (which stamps are not) and not to any kind of thing you can use to "pay" for something - I could give you a valuable painting in exchange for a car, but that wouldn't make the painting a legal "means of payment". Current Swiss stamps are also no kind of official work whatsoever, as they're not issued by a government agency. But I think I will present this question to German-language Wikipedia's copyright issues forum (de:Wikipedia:Urheberrechtsfragen) and ask for more opinions there. Gestumblindi (talk) 02:02, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
Notes: 1) Stamps are mass-produced and have some fixed value attached to them. (When you send a letter, you have to stick stamps according to the numbers printed on them, which is irrelevant to the actual value or number of stamps). 2) "Zahlungsmittel" may be ambiguous, but "les moyens de paiement" and "i mezzi di pagamento" are not, and all three terms must be legally equal in Switzerland. Hence interpretation of "Zahlungsmittel" alone does not make a difference. 3) "buying" stamps does not specify any particular service; people can use those stamps to pay for various services, not limited to the post. I personally used stamps not only for sending letters/parcels/postcards, but also when paying for my immigration documents last year (this is a standard procedure in my current country of residence, and it is unrelated to postage). Materialscientist (talk) 02:16, 22 February 2018 (UTC)

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