User talk:MichaelMaggs

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I will respond here to any messages left for me on this page. If you would like me to respond on your own talk page, as well, just let me know.
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Why isn't this fully protected, unlike other closed RfB requests? --Stefan4 (talk) 21:53, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

None of the recent closures were protected, but they are now. Thanks for noting. --MichaelMaggs (talk) 02:02, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

Bureaucrat[edit]

Thank you for your positive vote at Commons:Bureaucrats/Requests/Jameslwoodward. I will do my best to live up the trust you have put in me. .     Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 20:37, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

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hello! I have sent you an email. could you tell me if you can help us? --アンタナナ 18:08, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

Yes I could probably help. Let me know what you need. --MichaelMaggs (talk) 06:00, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

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Quoting copyright text on Commons[edit]

Michael, could you look at the issue raised at User talk:Revent/Archive 1#Ignorant threats and continued on my talk page User talk:Colin#Fair use content on Wikimedia Commons. There are two issues I see. Firstly that our licensing and fair use policy applies to our media files only. Other rules, mostly undocumented on Commons, apply to our talk page, forum and guideline text. Secondly that we are permitted to quote copyright text on such talk/forum pages, and my understanding is that this is "fair use". User:Revent seems to think that since fair use is not allowed on Commons, the posting of even small amounts of copyright text here is a blockable offence, and has threatened Jee. -- Colin (talk)

And note that all descriptions and tags in Flickr pages are copyrighted; only the media is free licensed. Jee 09:27, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
If true, that has consequences for our bots that scrape the text and insert it into our file pages. Such copy/paste could not, imo, be regarded as fair use. That's probably a separate issue from the dispute by Revent, but I would be interested also in what Michael understands about that too. If true, it would severely limit our ability to make use of Flickr images on an automated basis (each uploader would have to reword the description text much like a Wikipedia author has to reword their sources). And what about descriptions in EXIF data? -- Colin (talk) 09:41, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
In Flickr, we can post a photo, screenshot or artwork/illustration and the license is limited to it. Any one can add tags (like identification tags) without giving a license that means "copyrighted to that person". There is no provision to specify a license for description provided by the uploader. Most pages contain third party copyrighted texts (like in my Flickr pages) that the uploader can no way release the license. Jee 09:49, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
Interesting, and troubling. I agree that the description on Flickr could certainly contain text from a third party that can't be re-licensed. Many people quote Wikipedia on their descriptions, which is ironic. I wasn't aware people apart from the author could add a tag (ignoring the autotag thing for now). I'd like to get this Revent/fair-use thing out of the way first. Then it may be a good idea to open up a Village Pump / Copyright discussion on this issue. It has serious consequences for out bot users in particular, but also anyone uploading an image from Flickr. And it applies to other sites too, where the image is CC but the description text may be added by another person. -- Colin (talk) 09:59, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
The tagging can be enabled or disabled in user preferences. It can be limited to friends, contacts or even allow anyone to tag. I usually allow anyone as I need to get the IDs of unidentified organisms. Jee 10:04, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

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