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Categorising nl: pronunciation files[edit]

Hi Niels, I am honored to be your Commons-helper. :)

I just had a bit of a look at the structure of Category:Pronunciation. The categories for each language (eg Category:Dutch pronunciation) appear to basically just be big dumping grounds. So, I am not sure if it is necessary to categorise as you suggested, breaking up into province categories. Probably what I would do is dump them all in Category:Dutch pronunciation, then make an article/"gallery" page/whatever-you-call-it with links to the files. I think this would be a more succint way to summarise the information. And the article name can be in Dutch, too (it should also be in Category:Dutch pronunciation). Have a look at English pronunciation as an example to how you could set it out (also note the {{audio}} tag). You could also just link to them in the regular way, eg.

(in the case of media files, linking normally is the same as using : with images - it just links to the image description page).

I very much doubt people dive into the X Pronunciation categories looking for a file - I'm sure they check the relevant articles in wikipedias, and copy any links they find. So doing this will make Dutch pronuncation vastly more organised than any of the other folders. So, well done! :)

Anyway, yes, a bot should do the categorising - but the page will probably be have to be done by hand. With a bit of "search and replace" it shouldn't be too hard, I hope. That could be done while the files are waiting to be categorised. Now, as to finding a bot. Perhaps you could contact one of the owners of the bots listed here: Category:Wikipedia bots? (I'm sure there are other bots not listed here, but this is a start, at least).

Hope this helps. Let me know if you have any more questions. :) cheers, pfctdayelise (translate?) 04:52, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Also, I just found {{Audio2}}, which you might prefer the style of. pfctdayelise (translate?) 05:09, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Hmm, I'm not sure if I understand all of your suggestions, but I've just created Category:Dutch pronunciation (municipality names) as a subcat of Category:Dutch pronunciation. I intend to have someone with a robot (from the list you so kindly provided) put all the files in this subcategory. Good idea or not? NielsF 05:16, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Update: I can't see my subcategory in the category:Dutch pronunciation. What's wrong? NielsF 05:30, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
You couldn't see the category because category:Dutch pronunciation is overpopulated (has more than 200 members). This is a bug which is very annoying. To force your category to list on the front page (hopefully), I changed it like this (on your category's page):
[[Category:Dutch pronunciation]] -> [[Category:Dutch pronunciation|*]]
That forces it to list under the "*" rather than "D" where it would be trying to. If you clicked "(next 200)" a few times, you would have seen your subcategory. You can also always see all the subcategories by using a tree tool: [1]
What you're planning to do will be fine, although I personally think it is easier and more informative to display more information in an article form. The bad thing about that, though, is that they don't automatically update. So it's six of one, half a dozen of the other. :) pfctdayelise (translate?) 06:45, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
Seeing how the article worked out, I must say that I find it to be the most elegant and simple solution (article listing all files under a special subcat), so I'll forget about the whole bot-thing. Made some improvements to the article (2 provinces weren't properly listed and added multilingual description). Thanks very much for your help! Cheers, NielsF 16:41, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
Although in general it is a good idea to have both (in case your image, usually, gets removed from a gallery page), with pronuncation files, and I guess this is a very limited set that will ever be needed (not like anyone can just add a new one!), I guess it's not so important. Teamwork, eh?! :) pfctdayelise (translate?) 17:48, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
(Also, did you know that Australia was called New Holland for a time, when it was first discovered by Europeans? And of course, there's our close neighbours, New Zeaeland... :)) pfctdayelise (translate?) 17:50, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, knew that (you forgot Arnhemland by the way :-)). I'm a history enthusiast (especially when it comes to Dutch history). Back to business: I saw this [2] on my watchlist, does that mean that you still intend to categorise the files? If so, will you put a request out to a bot operator or would you like me to do it? By the way, good move removing the TOC, the map to the right is by far better and easier to use. Cheers, NielsF 20:08, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
Yes, I would categorise them. Yes, I would like you to contact a bot owner, please. :) Or if you don't want to, let me know, and instead I will delete the category and just put the article in Category:Dutch pronunciation. pfctdayelise (translate?) 02:51, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
Allrighty then. I'll contact a bot owner after Quichot has uploaded all the correct files. Thanks again for your help! NielsF 03:51, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Image Tagging Image:Horatius Cocles.jpg[edit]

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Thanks for uploading Image:Horatius Cocles.jpg. I notice the 'image' page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is therefore unclear. If you have not created this media yourself then you need to argue that we have the right to use the media on Wikimedia Commons (see copyright tagging below). If you have not created the media yourself then you should also specify where you found it, i.e., in most cases link to the website where you got it, and the terms of use for content from that page.

If the media also doesn't have a copyright tag then you must also add one. If you created/took the picture, audio, or video then you can use {{GFDL-self}} to release it under the GFDL or {{PD-self}} to release it into the public domain. See Commons:Copyright tags for the full list of copyright tags that you can use.

Note that any unsourced and untagged images will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have uploaded other media, please check that you have specified their source and copyright tagged them, too. You can find all your uploads using the Gallery tool. Thank you. skINMATE 21:39, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

:Added tag PD-old. NielsF 17:01, 14 April 2006 (UTC) Make that: {{PD-Art}}. NielsF 22:04, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

Re: problem[edit]

problem solved! ;) pfctdayelise (translate?) 00:14, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Re: Commons and nl: again[edit]

Hiya, sorry to trouble you with this, I've been an admin now for just about a month and a bit now on nl.wikipedia, but I still see a lot of what I think is commons-related activity done by anonymous users, who don't respond to messages on their talk pages and in general don't even try to make an effort to use your translations or something like that. I'm all for Commons, because figuring out copyright status on a local project is hard enough and I think that Commons should be at least a little bit more qualified than us locals ;-), but what's so hard about at least making an account with at least a redirect or other direct link to Commons on other projects? It takes 1 minute of work for each account, but at least makes it easy for people in a local project to identify with the user. I personally use a Firefox toolbar, which makes it even easier, but with cookies enabled, if you have an account on a project, it's just 2 seconds of work (provided that it's wikipedia, not lohipedia :-)). Just my two cents on this issue. NielsF 03:43, 18 May 2006 (UTC) (reposted here from User talk:pfctdayelise to keep the discussion in one place)

Hey NeilsF... thanks for your message. This is not an easy issue. I am not inclined to ask Commons people to register on all wikipedias, for the following reasons:

  • the universal login is supposed (!) to be coming soon, which will remove the need for this.
  • there are simply too many projects for it to be realistic for Commons users to register in them all. Over 100 wikipedias, then there's the wikibooks, wikinews, wikispecies, wikisource...
  • there is no way we could require/force Commons users to register local accounts. Even if we stated that they had to, there is nothing stopping them from ignoring us and continuing as normal.

However none of these points overrides the right of your project to run it as you see it. For example you could:

  • Develop and use a boilerplate "if you are from Commons, please identify yourself/explain what you're doing/use the translations" template to put on IP talk pages.
  • Make it a policy to revert any changes that are not explained (I once had a change reverted, even using a translation and a link to my commons page!)
  • Block any repeat offenders who do not respond to your requests

I think these are reasonable actions that you are well within your right to do regardless of what the action is and whether or not they're a Commons editor.

If it is the PNG/SVG replacement thing again, I would simply revert and semi-protect any such changes. If it's images being removed because they're going to be deleted, well there are two things here: one, if you revert such changes, you'll probably end up with a redlink. Two, it's probably a Commons admin doing this, so if the image is deleted soon after, you can probably assume it's them and then contact them directly on their Commons talk page to ask them to identify themselves and explain their actions. (The direct approach is usually the most efficient, I've found, although it is quite a bit of work for you. If you want to me to approach people, I don't mind.)

What do you think? I think at the moment this problem is easier to resolve at your end than ours, because you simply have more control over what happens in your wiki than we do over all wikis.

cheers, pfctdayelise (translate?) 04:37, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Hello Niels - please have a loot at CommonsTicker - that tool will hopefully help to integrate commons activity more with "local" projects, and allow local users and admins to do some of the cleanup work required. Regards -- Duesentrieb(?!) 11:36, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Ok. Thanks for your answers ptfcdayelise & Duesentrieb. It's just that nl.wikipedia is the 6th largest wikipedia, and it's growing quite fast at the moment, so we're kinda swamped with patrolling anonymous edits etc. I think that Duesentrieb's tool might come in very handy, I'll certainly keep track of the test on German Wikipedia. On a completely different note: where can I request interface translations for the dutch interface of Commons? Some of the tabs like edit, discussion etc. are completely different from nl.wikipedia, which might create some confusion. NielsF 22:23, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
It's in live testing now: de:Wikipedia:CommonsTicker. Enjoy :)
As to interface strings: find them on Special:Allmessages, and make a nice list of name -> desired value somewhere. Then grab hold of an admin and threaten/bribe him or her into changing all the messages :) -- Duesentrieb(?!) 22:51, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
If you have any other issues you want to raise, well, I'll put your talk page on my watchlist. :) CommonsTicker is indeed a great development. pfctdayelise (translate?) 03:00, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

re: Special:Contributions/Otto Normalverbraucher[edit]

I never reply on my own talk page :)

He seems to be nominating images that he himself has uploaded, so I guess his understanding of the copyright law has changed. Since he appears to be a German speaker I will ask a German-speaking admin to contact him. pfctdayelise (translate?) 01:05, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Oh, and CommonsTicker is indeed going to be super awesome. I hope NL.wp is a very early adopter! :) --pfctdayelise (translate?) 01:13, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

I do though :-P. "We"'ve already put in a request for the ticker with Duesentrieb along with zh: it: gl: and es:. I'm looking forward to implementation of the tool, because it makes commons more transparent for all users, which can only be a positive development. It's a pity there's such a low participation from nl.wikipedia, but as soon as the "SVG-pushing thing" is over in people's minds and CommonsTicker is implemented I'll be happy to show nl.wikipedia users the way to Commons. Heck, I might have to become an admin here! Cheers, NielsF 01:20, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
On another note; is there a contribution limit and/or months active limit for becoming an admin here? It's just that I don't have enough time at the moment and I don't have enough knowledge of Commons procedures, but I know/understand at least 5 languages, so I might come in handy? NielsF 01:29, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
I think you would make a great admin. If you want me to nominate you, I would be more than happy to (or you might prefer to self-nominate). You have shown great patience and willingness to work with others over the whole NL.wp saga. The only formal requirements are 100 edits and 2 months, which I imagine you passed a long time ago. Many admins do quite little work here (which is sad for us, but all I mean is you don't have to suddenly spend all your time here). We recently accepted User:Svdmolen as an admin here, and he is a Dutch speaker. More are definitely, definitely, welcome. And it would be quite handy to have your Italian skills - at the moment it is more or less poor User:Red devil 666 all on his own!
As always if you have any questions about policies or procedures I am more than happy to try and help - it is also good because it lets us know where our documentation needs improving. cheers, pfctdayelise (translate?) 02:16, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Commons:Administrators/Requests and votes/NielsF[edit]

Ping. :) You should formally accept the nomination, and maybe write a bit about what you plan to do, if you like. Good luck. pfctdayelise (translate?) 01:57, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Art painting duplicates[edit]

This has cropped up a few times. They are notoriously hard to choose between (for example, I think Image:GuidoNessus.jpg is really garish). I would not use any tag at all (because we don't have a suitable one), just simply write on both of them: "A different image of this painting is available at Image:Example.jpg." Also in this case the one you tagged as "bad" has a much, much higher resolution than the other one. So it's easiest to just not make any choice at all and leave that up to the local editors. pfctdayelise (translate?) 16:40, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Answered on User talk:Pfctdayelise. NielsF 16:47, 1 June 2006 (UTC)


Wow, answering my talk page for me? Now that's what I call service ;) --pfctdayelise (translate?) 11:47, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I suck at the whole "leaving Wikimedia" thing bigtime... :o pfctdayelise (translate?) 12:02, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
No prob. The relevant page is User:Orgullobot/commands, I made the request. As the page says, read the documentation. :) If(while) you're not an admin, you can make requests on the talk page and an admin will transfer them across if appropriate. Also, I task you with the job of merging South American Community of Nations and Comunidade Sul-Americana de Nações into one page without loss of information and making the other page a RDR. :) --pfctdayelise (translate?) 12:50, 12 June 2006 (UTC)


Hello. Congratulations. You are now a Wikimedia Commons administrator and you now can place {{user admin}} on your user page. Don't loose the fun with these admin rights. ;-) If you have any questions for example on deletion guidelines just ask me (I am as well on IRC in #wikipedia-de oder #wikimedia-commons channel most of the time). By the way Category:Against policy needs urgently some help on reducing the number of copyvios awaiting their deletion. ;-) Have fun, Arnomane 22:15, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!. I'll be sure to ask if I don't know what to do. I'll take a look into that cat as soon as possible. NielsF 22:55, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Image:Germany-Poland line ups.svg[edit]

I made a small mistake there, Lehmann had a yellow jersey. Can you please change that? I can't upload a new version myself since my account is "too new". Thx! --LasseG 22:46, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Done. FYI, I was just about to upload my version when I saw that you were just a few minutes earlier... Bye, NielsF 22:59, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
Sorry, same thing happend to me with the Spain-Ukraine line up, you beat me for that one. BTW I have the line up for Brazil-Croatia but I haven't figuered out how to do the croatian red-white chequered jersey with Inkscape. Do you know how to do it? --LasseG 00:09, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
Unfortunately, no. I've tried, but couldn't get the pattern function working. I'll ask someone else for help. If you could upload your file anyway, that would save me/someone else the time of typing in the names etc.? NielsF 10:21, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
Ah I see you got it working. Brilliant! NielsF 11:47, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Help on image upload : search, taggs, categories, galleries, ....[edit]

Hi Niels,

last time you asked me to put category and change the name of the pictures I had uplaoded. It s done and I have put other ones. But some stuff troubles me:

1) what is the difference between categories and galleries ? I only put a category tag to my pictures. there are aslo articles in Commons. What the difference with the articles from Wikipedia

2) how does the search engin function : it seems to me very complicated and very little successfull. typing for example "venise" (= "Venezia" in french) give me nothing, or redirect me on a page with search galleries categories and lots of other stuff.

3) suppose I m wrtting an aricle in Wikipedia on "Venise", how can I choose from the picture from commons ?

4) appart the untagged pictures, do we found the whole pictures related to a subject in the category of this subject ?

5) I had to create an other account for commons (different from wikipedia) is it normal ?

6) I put here the screenshot of my contributions on Commons

My contributions.PNG

. what does (top) mean ? why are some pictures twice in the contributions ?

Thanks a lot

You say in your profile you like to help, I might take it for granted !

see ya

--Bichot from Paris Wiki Commons 01:07, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

I checked again: looking for "venise" in wikipedia, I found the article. At the bottom there is a link to Commons "Venise". But in ths big category/gallery/article (?), my picture do not appear  !


--Bichot from Paris Wiki Commons 01:26, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Okay, long question, long answer:

  1. ) Categories and articles (also called galleries) both have the function to group images of the same subject together. The difference is that categories are automatically generated by searching for the [[Category:... tag in image pages, and form a hierarchic structure together with other categories, so they are searchable. Articles/galleries have to be manually edited. The difference with Wikipedia articles is that Commons-articles are a way of collecting pictures together, not primarily for giving encyclopedic information.
  2. ) Yes, the search engine works badly. That's a well-known problem also with Wikipedia. I've created a redirect Venise, which brings you automatically to Venezia. Another way to search for images is via the category structure. For example you could go to Category:Italy then to Category:Cities in Italy, then to Category:Venezia. Note: all category names are in English only (although geographical names are usually in their "motherlanguage")!
  3. ) You would have to search Commons for pictures in Category:Venezia or Venezia, it's sometimes hard, I know.
  4. ) Ideally, yes. Unfortunately not everyone categorizes his/her pictures or puts them in galleries. Sometimes there are also duplicate categories and/or articles which contain some pictures.
  5. ) Yes this is normal, unfortunately. I have about 12 accounts for different wikipedias and Commons. There's a project going on called the "single login" which would eliminate this need (however your username should be the same on each wiki and you should set an email-address for the account).
  6. ) Top means that you're the last person to have edited the page. Some pages appear twice or more times because you have made more than one edit on those pages. Note that your contributions is not the same as your uploads. You can view your uploads by going to "My contributions" and clicking on "Logs" behind your username. There's also an external tool: [3] which gives your pictures as a gallery.
  7. ) Your image doesn't show because you categorized it, but you're looking at the article. In Category:Venezia your images do show up. If you want your images to show up in the article, you have to edit Venezia#San_Giorgio_Maggiore and add your pictures there.

I hope I've answered your questions. If you have any other questions feel free to pose them in French as I assume that's your native language (although I might answer in English if the questions are difficult, I understand French very well, but writing it is more difficult for me). You can also set the interface to French by specifying this in Special:Preferences under language, if that's more convenient to you. Au revoir, NielsF 11:46, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for your help. As you answer quickly and well I may ask for your help in the future again ;-) I am french that s right, but writing in english can t be bad for me. I can also write in german ( right now I m studying in karlsruhe, germany). take care. --Bichot from Paris Wiki Commons 08:29, 16 June 2006 (UTC)


Be sure to check my user contribution in the following account. I have used them in some articles on there free to use under Creative Commons Attribution 2.5 Verstaat je het --Belginusanl 02:17, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Ok. That's clear then. Please look into the 2nd and 3rd question I asked (about the categorization and the filename). Ik heb het begrepen. NielsF 02:32, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Arbitration request[edit]

Ik heb vier van de foto's zelve getrokken in the Verenigde Staten waar ik woon. Als ik aan en advocate in Amerika raat gevraagde heb hij geef mij het volgende antwoordt ge geven. "Are you allowed to take pictures of people including children in plain view, anything visible from public area with out there permision and registering them as copyright and posting it on the Internet ( and publising it?" Die weten kunnen anders zijn in Belgie of in Nederland. Ik weet niet hoe je een goot copyright licence moet schrijven. Kun je een good copyright licence schrijven in het Engels en het Nederlands voor die vier foto's. The eendere foto's zijn af en adre website genomen en de staan op de public domein. Voorleggens en nederlandse talige administrateur van mogen die op commons staan. --Belginusanl 02:21, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

I don't see what this has to do with my questions on your user talk page. Ik weet niet wat dit voor betrekking heeft op mijn vragen op je overlegpagina. Your Dutch is execrable if I might say, please stick to English (although my English might be as execrable as your Dutch, I don't know for sure). NielsF 02:35, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Archiving deletion debates[edit]

yep! use {{delh}} (DELetion Header) and {{delf}} (DELetion Footer). You could subst them, although I don't bother, obviously some people do. pfctdayelise (translate?) 06:12, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Re: Category:Dutch pronunciation (municipality names)[edit]


AWB is probably set for Wikipedia only. Try asking the developers, I can't imagine it would take much to adapt it to Commons.

Although, I actually don't see a huge amount of value in sorting pronunciation files. I mean it would be useful, Category:Dutch pronunciation has over 200 items, but I don't get the impression that people browse sound-file categories in the same way they do image-file categories (not that there is a strict distinction, but most files in most cats are images, and most files in Pronuncation cats are sound files).

Try it out, though, and if AWB is useful let me know and I'll try it out too. I haven't used it... maybe our category maintainers will find it helpful. pfctdayelise (translate?) 06:12, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Image:Doors of Basilica Maxentius.JPG[edit]

Hee Niels, ben je hier ook al mod? Ik keek even in de help sectie van commons daar stond dat ik deze tag moest gebruiken... Commons:FAQ#Technical questions. Ah wacht, ik zie het al. Ik moest daarnaast dus de nieuwe file opgeven :-). Ik heb de nieuwe file (Image:Doors of Curia Julia.JPG) inmiddels geupload. De oude kan weg. Ik zal volgende keer die andere tag gebruiken. gtroet, Joris1919 13:12, 25 June 2006 (UTC)


Dag Niels; Een wat laattijdig antwoord, wegens reis in het buitenland. Ik heb de copyright tag GFDL-self toegevoegd en de template "No source" verwijderd. Het was waarschijnlijk een vergetelheid temidden van de massa's foto's die ik reeds heb geuploaded. JoJan 15:53, 25 June 2006 (UTC)


This Image have deleted on zh wp. because it copyvio, from [4], not GFDL --Shizhao 01:32, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Tagging Question[edit]

I don't see any US tags anywhere. Am I looking in the wrong place? --D-Day 14:57, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Just to clarify, all non-commercial and non-derivative images are NOT allowed? --D-Day 15:22, 27 June 2006 (UTC)


hebbes eindelijk ook een nederlandse kerel. Hoe is het daar op de ne wiki, is het daar nog altijd sensuur ten top? doe ze de groeten vooral aan die betweter van kansterlaCarolus 00:54, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Ach Carolus, ook hier al nutteloze opmerkingen maken? Hou je nou ajb eens bij nuttige bijdragen en ga zeker niet conflicten van nl: naar commons overbrengen. Enige en laatste opmerking hierover. Volgende opmerkingen van dit soort aard worden verwijderd. Nuttige vragen of opmerkingen over hoe dingen hier gaan worden natuurlijk wel beantwoord. NielsF 01:37, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
sorry hoor, ik probeer een opbouwend gesprek te voeren over de wantoestanden op de nl wiki en jij negeert me. mag ik al niet meer vrij met je communiceren? Het zal duren totdat ik weer vrij ben, ik ben niet van plan om zo een baldadigheid als de nl wiki zijn gang te laten gaan. Wat bedoel je overigens met de commentaar bij dat plaatje van Louis Philippe de Bourbon, ik snap niet zo goed wat er zal gebeuren.Carolus 10:40, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
Ik ben hier juist actief niet alleen omdat plaatjes leuk zijn, maar ook omdat het hier lekker rustig is. Het is hier niet nl:; vandaar dat ik niet zo'n zin heb om over nl: te praten. Over dat plaatje, ze zijn niet exact hetzelfde, de kleur is wat roder bij degene die jij hebt geüpload etc.. Dus ik denk dat in ieder geval 1 van de anderen blijft staan, zodat mensen kunnen kiezen. NielsF 13:26, 28 June 2006 (UTC)


OK, thx --Man 15:38, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Image:Flag of Peru (war).svg[edit]

Hoi Niels, de bovenstaande afbeelding die je hebt vervangen heeft volgens mij een foutje linksonder (ik zie daar een geel ding staan dat er niet thuis lijkt te horen). Ik weet niets van SVG, kan jij het misschien aanpassen? Siebrand 20:55, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Ja dat was meer omdat ik de Category:Incorrectly named leeg wilde hebben en er wat onduidelijkheid was over welke correcter was (bleek achteraf de huidige te zijn) en ik toch deze versie ergens wilde bewaren... dus waar anders als versie van de "duplicaat"? Maar bedankt, ik had dat rare gele ding over het hoofd gezien. Inmiddels gefixt. NielsF 21:24, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Re: Template:Deletion_requests[edit]

What are you talking about at the deletion request of Image:TotalRaisinBran.jpg, Image:GoldenGrahams.jpg, Image:CinnamonToastCrunch.jpg? If this is your sense of humour, ok, but what's the point? Please keep in mind that Commons is a multilingual project so not everybody will understand this (if this is just sarcasm). NielsF 03:43, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

What I'm saying is that I made a mistake by uploading those pictures in the first place, because they didn't belong on the Commons. It's not just a mistake, either -- it's a violation of policy. Violations of policy have to be punished, even if I'm the one violating policy. This is not sarcasm -- it's a statement that the policies must be enforced. --Elkman 03:49, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Commons-l subscription[edit]

Hello NielsF,

as per Commons talk:Administrators, I am asking all admins to subscribe to commons-l, a mailing list for Wikimedia Commons policy and project discussion. Since many admins are only on Commons infrequently, this is a good way to alert people about important happenings. The mailing list is nominally multilingual, but predominantly English.

If you are already subscribed to commons-l, I apologize for bothering you, and you are free to ignore this message. If you don't want to use your regular e-mail account, feel free to leave me a message, and I can send you a GMail invite. Traffic on the mailing list is relatively low, and we do not expect admins to read all messages to the list, but it would be nice if you could check on it at least every few weeks. Thanks for your time,--Eloquence 23:07, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

I just registered after the message in the VP a few days ago. I'll look forward to exchange views on the list. Cheers, NielsF 01:47, 5 July 2006 (UTC)


See User talk:Cacophony. Apparently, he was changing the category names without discussion or consensus. Also, the old category ("Vancouver, British Columbia") is a redirect to "Vancouver" anyhow, so I'm bypassing the redirect and using the already-established category name. Buchanan-Hermit 01:56, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

degraded vs. demoted[edit]

Which do you mean exactly? (Re: recently "degraded" to admin status.) ;) Siebrand 12:17, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Is there a difference, I'd say they were synonyms? Both mean that I was lowered in rank, don't they? NielsF 13:00, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
Letterlijk wel, in context betekent 'to degrade' meer 'aftakelen'. Dat zou zonde zijn ;) Siebrand 07:23, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
Toch maar even nagekeken. Degrade kan wel in de context waarin jij het gebruikt. Het is alleen ambigu en daardoor zelf erg leuk :) degrade vs. demote op Webster (met vervelende pop-ups). Siebrand 07:26, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
Ah op die fiets, ik wist idd wel dat degrade ook nog andere betekenissen had, maar demote is minder ambigu idd. Die melding zal ik binnenkort eens vervangen. Bedankt voor het meedenken. NielsF 12:17, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Concrete Cows[edit]

Thank you for your message. (a) I thought that PNG was preferred, though I didn't know why. (b) The main reason is that I don't like that personally identifiable information is exposed with the JPG format. If this can be deleted, then the PNG can go. [You can reply on Commons, I will check back] --Concrete Cowboy 16:48, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Replied on Concrete Cowboy's talkpage. NielsF 18:17, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
Yes, it was the EXIF data. So please delete the PNG and I will update the links so they point to the JPG. --Concrete Cowboy 12:14, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
Replied on Concrete Cowboy's talkpage. NielsF 13:14, 13 July 2006 (UTC)


Please stop editwarring over this. Can you both agree on the use of {{vector version available}} or just inserting a plain text link (An SVG version of this image is Image:xxxx?)? Thanks in advance. NielsF 23:49, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
In fact, I was just about to type a custom version of {{vector version available}}. —Lifeisunfair 23:52, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
Ok. NielsF 23:57, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
I agree. Sanbec 10:56, 14 July 2006 (UTC)


Geen probleem Niels, Ik zag de hele discussie over het atomium pas nadat ik die foto's had geupload en de pagina had aangemaakt. Ik had er al een comment bijgezet dat het wat mij betreft direct verwijderd mag worden mocht die copyright ook gelden voor commons. Overigens staat op de engelse wiki wel gewoon een foto van het atomium. Hoe dan ook, we moeten geen gedoe krijgen met die SABAM, hoe belachelijk dit hele copyright gebeuren op gebouwen ook is. Joris1919 23:39, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Mischien is het wel een idee om de pagina Atomium te laten bestaan, met dezelfde waarschuwing als in de categorie. Die had ik namelijk niet gezien, anders maakt een volgende gebruiker deze mischien ook weer aan met zijn eigen foto's erin. Joris1919 23:39, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
Goed idee op zich. Op het moment vooral moe en morgen bruiloft + hele dag reizen, dus we zien wel wat er op de verwijderlijst gebeurt. NielsF 23:50, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
Nou ze hebben in ieder geval mooi weer met de bruiloft :-) (of ga je zelf trouwen?) Ik heb mijn suggestie op de delete request pagina erbij gezet en alvast die waarschuwing gekopieerd. Groet, Joris1919 00:17, 18 July 2006 (UTC)


The coat of arms of the Vatican is this: Image:Wappen Vatikanstadt.png. Please, tag your image. I can't delete for now. It is used in many articles. Sanbec 17:52, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Yes, at it: was me ;-) Sanbec 21:53, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Verkeerde foto geupload[edit]

Hi Niels,

een tijdje geleden maakte je me attent op het badname sjabloon voor fotos met een verkeerde naam. Is er ook een sjabloon voor wanneer ik een verkeerde foto heb geupload?

alvast bedankt,

21:56, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Hoi Teun, hoe bedoel je dat precies? Een foto van een vogel onder de naam Kat.jpg (dan kan je dus de foto van de vogel onder vogel.jpg uploaden en kat.jpg taggen met {{badname|Image:Vogel.jpg}})?; als het een foto van de verkeerde vogel (foto is van vogel a onder de naam vogel b.jpg) was kan je natuurlijk de foto gewoon overschrijven met een nieuwe versie. Anders kan je altijd nog algemeen {{speedy}} (ongeveer {{nuweg}}) plakken met een toelichting erbij, of een berichtje achterlaten bij mij of een andere moderator. Als ik je niet goed begrepen heb zeg het maar. NielsF 22:30, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Speedy lijkt me prima, bedankt! Badname kan niet, ik had gewoon een verkeerde foto geselecteerd toen ik ging uploaden, en deze heeft een slechte kwaliteit.

TeunSpaans 01:36, 24 July 2006 (UTC)


Sorry, im moving then to the right category.

Severino666 01:30, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

No, I've uploaded flags of states too.

Severino666 01:36, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Right, thanks for the help. Severino666 01:43, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

It's easier for me to upload all then in that category. I will organize then on the subcategories later. Severino666 02:07, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Errore di upload[edit]

Ciao Niels, ho visto che sei un admin e quindi ti segnalo che questa notte ho sbagliato a caricare un'immagine (questa). Ho apposto il template speedydelete con la motivazione "upload error". Se ci sono problemi ti prego di farmelo sapere e provvederò a correggere. Grazie e buon lavoro, --XXXL®? 13:20, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

OK, l'ho fatto. Puoi anche caricare la versione corretta se clicci su (is that correct? en:by clicking on) Carica una nuova versione di questo file alla pagina dell'immagine, se l'immagine sia rotta, o quando hai soltanto sbagliato il nome dell'immagine ma l'immagine stesso è buono, inserisci lo template {{badname}}: {{badname|Image:Nome dell'imagine col nome corretto}}. Anche a te buon lavoro, NielsF 13:46, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
Grazie Niels. "Clicchi su" è corretto :) Ciao, --XXXL®? 16:14, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Le immagini che hai scaricato[edit]

Per quanto riguarda le versioni di Image:True Flag of Italy.svg che hai scaricato, nota che non hanno entrambe la stiscia centrale bianca (pura):

Grazie per la protezione. Avrei comunque preferito che non si rendesse necessaria. Reisio è un maleducato, e rimpiango il tempo che ho sprecato a spigargli con sincerità la mia posizione sull'argomento.

A presto.--FlagUploader 14:04, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Si, lo vedo adesso, stranissimo. Mi dispiace anche che fosse necessaria proteggerla. Ciao, NielsF 14:10, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Re: Last days of Pompeii[edit]

Hey NeilsF,

Gah! Like cockroaches, some debates never die!!

The reason we can't put an OTRS ticket # there is because no OTRS ticket exists. Presumably the permission is in Danny's private email somewhere. When the last debate happened, I contacted him on meta: for more explicit permission, just to end it, and he ignored me. So, make what you will of that. (Maybe deleting them will get his attention, but you might get desysopped and banned as well. :P) --pfctdayelise (translate?) 05:14, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Astral Chart[edit]

Hola, gracias por su tiempo y atención. Puede escribirme en inglés ya que lo entiendo, más o menos. Por mi no hay inconveniente, si se me permite, en editar la imágen y eliminar mi nombre. Lo único que solicito es el anonimato. No tengo nada que decir respecto de las otras imágenes que he subido a commons ni del resto de las imágenes de la categoría que no he subido yo. Lo que me sabe mal es el comportamiento del usuario que, retiro la solicitud de borrado sin consultarme a través de la página de discusión. Un usuario que me persigue a través de varios proyectos.En conclusión, si parece bien, editaré la imágen para borrar mi nombre. Gracias. 15px Manuel Joseph (discusión Icons-mini-icon email.gif Email) 16:08, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Disculpas, veo que el usuario en cuestión ya ha eliminado mi nombre de la imágen. Por tanto no tengo nada más que objetar. Si acaso, lamentar el comportamiento de este usuario, considero que este comportamiento es inadecuado, inaceptable, y por esta razón, así como por otros comportamientos similares que son costumbre en es.wikipedia he decidido no seguir colaborando de una forma activa con los proyectos de wikimedia. Saludos. 15px Manuel Joseph (discusión Icons-mini-icon email.gif Email) 16:13, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Flags & Lame[edit]

Hi, - The flickrlickr uploads were not caught up in the usual licence changing problems this time - they were flagged because they are art/statue/sculpture in a public place in the US, which I didn't realise was not ok (since it is ok in the UK & most of Europe). I don’t know why they haven’t been deleted yet, since I haven’t disagreed with the problems. The flag situation just seemed bizarre to me! The first discussion was fair enough, regular dispute about a colour, but the second time it came up they both had their own versions and yet were reverting each other to the point that the images had to be protected! That just made me smile! I would certainly support a commons lame page - I am sure there have been plenty of other disputes on crazy little things that have happened in the past that deserve to be documented! SFC9394 14:59, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Charging Bull: Public art ?[edit]

Hello, NielsF. Thank you for letting me know of the problem with the image of the w:Charging Bull that I've uploaded. May I ask why ? I don't understand why it's not in the public domain considering that the creator deliberately dumped it on the public as an "guerilla art". I'm quite puzzled. -- PFHLai 16:54, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

To the best of my knowledge, a public work of art in the US is still protected by copyright, see Commons:Derivative works and User:Alx/Sandbox#USA (there are some useful links there). For buildings there's an explicit exemption in the copyright act, but not for sculptures. I don't think that the way of dumping it on the public matters. But hey, IANAL, just acting to the best of my knowledge and according to Commons policies; if you can refute this, please do so, because I hate deleting good quality pictures. NielsF 17:40, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the explanation. It's gone now. Never mind. (I may re-upload if I can come up with a legal way around the copyright problem.) -- PFHLai 21:51, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
Ok. Let me know if you find one... NielsF 22:38, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Re: Ciao[edit]

Ciao! Non vivo proprio al centro, però per arrivarci mi bastano 5 minuti di autobus. Vivo vicino a qui. :) Te dove stavi? --ßøuñçêY2K 09:29, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Nelle vicinanze delle Cascine è molto silenzioso, perché appunto c'è il parco. Comunque, complimenti per l'italiano :) --ßøuñçêY2K 13:23, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Image:Emblem of the Papacy.svg[edit]

Thank you for fixing the source/tagging on this image. Try as I might, I could not find it on --Durin-en 20:04, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

If you know it's easy to find.. but indeed searching that site is maybe even harder than searching Commons. NielsF 20:29, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Will you arbitrate?[edit]

Hey NielsF,

I have a request. :) As you may have noticed there is some conflict between User:Juiced lemon and User:Martorell about the name of Catalan-related categories. I think it won't be solved between them so I suggested that they accept a 3rd party to act as arbitrator. (Commons:Village_pump#Arbitration.3F) An arbitrator should listen to what both sides have to say and make some comment about what future action from both of them should be. Both parties have to agree to abide by what the arbitrator says, even if they disagree with it.

I think you are a fair administrator and will listen to both sides evenly, so I want to request that you act as arbitrator. If you think you can do it, please let me know. :)

In my opinion the arbitrator should:

  • have a good understanding of English (or the discourse language to be used, at the moment I think it's English)
  • be honest and upfront about their pre-existing opinions and biases on this matter. Therefore, if you already have some strong opinions about Catalan politics, I hope and trust that you will tell me and decline this request.
  • read existing debates on talk pages, at Village pump, etc
  • read the corresponding Commons policies - and this histories (policies are quite open to change here, not fixed in stone)
  • take further input from the parties if they want, or possibly ask them questions, something like that
  • make recommendations for both principal parties' behaviour in future - which they must abide by, if they agree to the arbitration at the start
  • probably some other stuff I haven't thought of, but I'm just making this up so far, so, yeah.

Let me know what you think. It is not really fun or easy but I have an impression that you are even-handed and will take both sides' concerns into consideration. cheers, pfctdayelise (translate?) 00:26, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

I am not surprised that you are confused because the policy is not that clear. So I think that is OK. Martorell is indeed an admin and a higher standard of behaviour can be expected. Nonetheless, an arbitrator is not there to judge behaviour. Someone can be doing the right (correct) thing, but carrying it out in a way that doesn't conform to wikiquette. It's kind of a separate problem. Admins of course should not use their power to carry out personal vendettas or goals, but to enforce policy in a reasonable way. Edit warring is always bad, but you generally would think at least one party has to be correct.
I guess I see arbitration as finding a situation that satisfies the concerns of each party. What is the aim each party is trying to fulfill by changing a category name? Are there other ways of satisfying those aims? (I hope so, otherwise we are at a deadlock. :)) Does nl.wp have an arbitration system? en.wp does, but I am not very familiar with it. pfctdayelise (translate?) 05:41, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
Good. Consider yourself arbitrator, then. I would make a subpage (of Commons:Administrators or your userpage) to collect arguments and ideas etc.
I think it is best to conduct it in English, since I am pretty sure it is a second language of both Juiced lemon and Martorell... that's the "fairest" thing to do. I think Martorell will accept you. I don't see any reason why not. pfctdayelise (translate?) 08:11, 7 August 2006 (UTC)


Hoi Niels, ik heb enige dagen geleden iets aan een collega van je gevraagd. Omdat die blijkbaar niet reageerd: zou jij eens kunnen kijken naar Image:Moving-camera.gif, vanwaar dat een copyvio was? Die afbeelding stond immers al heel op Commons, en het is daarom niet denkbeeldig dat men ze overgenomen heeft van hier ipv andersom. Mvg, en alvast bedankt, --Tuvic 19:29, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Hoi Tuvic, nav de commonsticker op nl: heb ik ook geprobeerd te achterhalen wáárom het verwijderd was, hetgeen ik vaak doe; maar heb compleet niets gevonden van de bron van de afbeelding. Ze zou van komen, maar die site leverde niets op wat leek op die afbeelding. De verwijderreden copyvio is misschien te ver gezocht, maar wegens "geen info" zoals op nl.wikipedia ook geldt had deze ook hier verwijderd kunnen worden. De enige info was: Public domain image from crimethinc, published intentionally with no copyright notice by crimethinc. com. {PD-author|}. Ik kan er niets beters van maken helaas. Groet, NielsF 02:57, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
Waarschijnlijk was het wel een copyvio. Ik heb de afbeeldingen nu gevonden [5], en op de site staat inderdaad niets over in het publiek domein vallen. Toch bedankt voor het opzoeken. --Tuvic 09:57, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
Hmm, jij kan beter zoeken dan ik blijkbaar... Maar inderdaad niet genoeg info om de afbeelding te behouden, helaas. NielsF 13:41, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Image:Pink muisjes.gif[edit]

Please check the image and especially it's source. I don't speak Dutch and can't read this. --Panther 18:57, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Deleted as copyvio; the disclaimer was very specific: no distribution etc. etc. NielsF 19:22, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
Thank you! This was exactly suspected by me. --Panther 19:28, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

re: Alno's RfA[edit]

User:Arnomane was around most recently, you could try asking him. Don't know when he'll be in next, though. The whole reason we're electing new ones is because the current ones all went away at the same time. No matter how hard I plead, I can't convince people who are absent to do as I say. :) Anyway, I doubt it will succeed now, so I'm not too worried. cheers, pfctdayelise (translate?) 02:07, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Andre responded on the mailing list, whereas he's not active at all around the wiki. So I suggest to try emailing him requests in future. He seems amenable to them. :) cheers, pfctdayelise (translate?) 02:27, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
Hi, I've closed myself my RfA, and understand that I was too ambitious :)
Best regards from France,
-- AlNo (talk) 16:08, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Re:your edit of COM:VP[edit]

I did not do that. Somebody has obtained to the password of my user. Thanks --Lmbuga gl, pt, es: contacta comigo 22:18, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Ooh that's bad. Hope you get the password back and change it before more like this happens. NielsF 22:23, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
Thanks. A warm greeting --Lmbuga gl, pt, es: contacta comigo 22:26, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Dorcus parallel[i|o|e]pipedus[edit]

Hi Niels, i answered you on my talk page - and asked for a source on the talk page of the article: Talk:Dorcus parallelipipedus; Greetings -- Schusch 23:49, 13 August 2006 (UTC)


Hello Nils! :)
I'm sorry but I don't speak English very well. Btw, respect this, I was guilty of missing rename file before uploading with Commonist. Excuse-me. Next time, I'll do it exactly. Have a nice time. :) --「Twice28.0 · contributi · talk」 00:54, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Grazie Nils per i consigli (thank you for the advice ...). Ne farò buon uso. :) --「Twice28.0 · contributi · talk」 07:42, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Re: Image:Faro maspalomas 1925.jpg[edit]

Hi! I deleted this image because a google translation (admittedly not ideal) of the terms page starts: "The images contained in this page Web are freely available for all the particular users who wish to use them with nonlucrative aims." I interpret this to mean that images from this site are not freely available for commercial use—if you disagree I don't mind if you undelete the image and continue with the deletion request. JeremyA 03:03, 16 August 2006 (UTC)


Hellow NielsF (Pardon, I speak very bad english) Template:Deletion requests#Image:Faro maspalomas 1925.jpg: This proposed deletion debate is now closed.

More information:

The page (source of the image) say:

Las imágenes contenidas en esta página web están libremente disponibles para todos los usuarios particulares que deseen utilizarlas con fines no lucrativos. ...El acceso al Archivo de Fotografía Histórica implica la aceptación de estas condiciones de uso.


The images contained in this Web are freely available for all the particular users who wish to use them with non lucrative purposes. ...The access to the File of Historical Photography implies the acceptance of these conditions of use.

I am to your disposition. A warm greeting. --Lmbuga gl, pt, es: contacta comigo 10:30, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

  • In galician language it's moitas grazas (thanks), ola (hellow), un cordial saúdo (a warm greeting), ... A warm greeting --Lmbuga gl, pt, es: contacta comigo 17:03, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Locked Split category: Anasazi/Ancient pueblo people[edit]

As you may recall, you locked these two categories from editing after I made the notification on Vp that an edit war was going on over them.

There has been no further arguments made about why the naming chosen by English WP should not be used. Category talk:Ancient pueblo people, Category talk:Anasazi, and en:Talk:Ancient Pueblo Peoples.

Since the term "Anasazi" is recognized as pejorative in the fr, nl, en, and es wikis, and due to the NPOV policy of Commons, Anasazi is not an appropriate category name on Commons.

There have already been complaints about not being able to find all contents of this category due to the split. I propose that the page be unlocked so that I may restore the category to Ancient pueblo people. Hopefully the opposing party will have cooled off and had a chance to reflect on the arguments on these talk pages. -Mak 16:56, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

It actually was me that added the info on nl: after the dispute here, but hey. I've unlocked the categories, but'll keep watching them. NielsF 17:30, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
I am not sure what the next step is if he reverts, but here goes. -Mak 22:09, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
The other party has re created the split category, refusing to move all of the contents of the category. Regardless which party has the preferable name, this status is unacceptable. Do you wish to involve yourself in this dispute, or shall I solicit for assistance towards resolving this on VP? -Mak 17:17, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
I'll involve myself to a certain extent: I'll move the articles into one category and make a soft redirect of Anasazi. Furthermore I'll try to convince Huebi to accept the status quo (that everything is ancient pueblo) but won't protect anymore because it's useless and I'll ask another admin to look at it.NielsF 21:51, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
I will accept arbitration by any admin. I think there ought to be generalized practice on commons for resolving this class of naming issue. Thanks- I won't bug you any more about this.-Mak 03:00, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Re: Question[edit]

Because the original author agreed to the deletion ( User_talk:Erin_Silversmith#deletion_request_image_.22horusauge.22 ), it seems OK to me. She might also think the deletion time is 5 days not 7, I think it's 5 on Wikipedia. I don't see what could be controversial about this... so I don't see a problem with it. But in general, I agree, closing debates one has opened is not a great habit. pfctdayelise (translate?) 04:34, 18 August 2006 (UTC)


Please delete Image:Sistema_lacrimal.gif. It has been properly listed for over a week and the consensus is to delete. — Erin (talk) 03:53, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I'm trying to solve a (potential) conflict, you might be right in that the image should be deleted but there's someone contesting that and I feel contributors are worth more than one .svg. NielsF 03:59, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
It's a matter of policy. — Erin (talk) 04:18, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
Quoth Erik Möller (citing revised Commons policy): "'Obsolete' images should indeed no longer be deleted except where they're orphaned and there's clearly no opposition." (diff)Lifeisunfair 05:54, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
Are you going to spam that irrelevant quote everywhere? — Erin (talk) 06:38, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
I disagree with your assertion that the quote is irrelevant, and I'm merely responding to comments that you posted within multiple discussions that appeared on my watchlist (which is fine, as these pages are likely to be read by different people). —Lifeisunfair 07:19, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Very very thank you NielsF, to understand me! The solution that I made for now is upload the image on but I know it isn't a good solution. But, she cannot delete image there. I am just very sorry for Commons and other portuguese projects, because it lost a quality image replaced by a bad-copy svg version. I don't let my opinion again in this case, if the image will deleted here, no problem, the project lost a image but my Portuguese project continues with a beautiful and original image. FML IconSP.jpg hi 04:55, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

NielsF, please, if you can, delete Image:Sistema lacrimal.gif because I improve and made a PNG version better, with transparent background. Please, restore this: Image:SLoriginal.png version and put it to list of delete. FML IconSP.jpg hi 05:00, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Ola, FML, please wait until the original deletion request and the subsequent discussion have died down a bit. I've no interest in stirring up things by deleting and unprotecting at the moment. I'm actually trying to integrate the svg and the png at the moment to present a solution everyone can be happy with. But that won't be for today, it's too late already. Boa noite, NielsF 01:50, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
I see that Erin has already improved the svg. NielsF 21:54, 20 August 2006 (UTC)


Hey NielsF, Martorell has accepted you as arbitrator. He will be back home soon. Do you have ideas about how to run this? As a first point, I would remind them both that by agreeing to this, they agree to abide by the final decision and recommendations even if they disagree with that viewpoint, and that this is a ruling about the best way to organise the Commons, and says not very much (if anything) about ongoing political disputes. ie, this is not world peace, it's just Commons. pfctdayelise (translate?) 16:56, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

The timeline is maybe a little short, but then they're not writing an essay or anything. There are other users involved besides these 2 principal parties, so I think they should be invited to input something as well. But only if they were involved in the editing then, not just they would like to express an opinion about it. Should other people be bound by it? Yes. Of course it would make no sense to ban one user from a certain action and allow others to do so. pfctdayelise (translate?) 06:23, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Reverting your edits[edit]

Although you've been bold in trying to implement a new structure for the COM:DEL page, I don't like the fact you archived everything, even not yet closed debates. Therefore I've reverted your edits. I agree that the current structure is hard to work with, but your move was a little too bold for my taste. By archiving not yet closed debates, you take them out of sight and that'll probably mean they are never looked at again. Cheers, NielsF 23:28, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

I do not understand this. I cant even load the page (properly) let alone discuss anything. All I did was move debates to the sub pages. The backlog, link clearly indicates further discussion is taking place.
Do as you wish but I'd like to note the "structure" I implimented had taken me several hours. I just like to point out I am less than happy. And current structure is imposible to work with.
--Cool CatTalk|@ 23:35, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
Ping --Cool CatTalk|@ 02:10, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Could you help delete my user page?[edit]

Hi. My user page was edited by someone unknown. So my name becomes blue now. Could you help delete my user page? Thank you in advance.--百楽兎.png百楽兎 15:49, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Reacted on Pirate's talk. NielsF 20:22, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
Thank you very much! :D
And one more request...Could you delete these useless images? Because I have uploaded SVG version of them for a long time.
Image:Old Japan Iga.png, Image:Old Japan Izumi.png, Image:Old Japan Kawachi.png, Image:Old Japan Satsuma.png, Image:Old Japan Yamato.png, Image:Old Japan Mutsu.png, Image:Old Japan Osumi.png, Image:Old Japan Harima.png, Image:Old Japan Izumo.png, Image:Old Japan Echigo.png, Image:Old Japan Owari.png, Image:Old Japan Kai.png, Image:Old Japan Yamashiro.png, Image:Old Japan Iki.png, Image:Old Japan Settsu.png--百楽兎.png百楽兎 12:13, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
I understood. Thank you again! :-)--百楽兎.png百楽兎 14:59, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

request to hold off on Vigeland Sculpture Park image deletions[edit]

  • I am in the process of moving these to the correct wikis.
  • I'd like access to those which have been deleted so that they may be properly transfered.
  • I am investigating a more proper tag than Fair Use, as for this class of image degradation of the image is not necessary since use in cases such as Wikipedias is fully permitted, but due to Commons rules is not permitted (As I understand the debate- restrictions on commercial use in this case).

-Mak 19:14, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Arbitration again[edit]

User:Martorell is back now. pfctdayelise (translate?) 15:44, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

OK, thank you for information Pmmollet talk  21:53, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
Thanks four your arbitration. This night (in Spain) I will leave there my arguments. --Joanot Martorell 06:18, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

As a result of this post made by Juiced Lemon to Joan Puigbarcell, I wouldn't be agree if this user could take part, because he didn't intervened in the discussed changes. Anyway, if you consider that his participation is needed, I will respect your decision, but I think that the parts should only be invited from you. I haven't published my arguments yet because I'm still writing it. My skills in English isn't very fine, and I want to feel sure that I express all things in the way I mean. --Joanot Martorell 00:49, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Ok, sorry because I'm later. It's already done. --Joanot Martorell 03:03, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Subject of the arbitration[edit]


As I said here, I don't agree with the subject of the arbitration. I am waiting for your answer. --Juiced lemon 08:35, 31 August 2006 (UTC)


ik kan nergens terug vinden hoelang ik nog geblokeerd blijf? jun je dat eens in de kroeg smijten op de vlaamse Wiki? Carolus 09:03, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Hoi, op nl.wp ben je geblokkeerd tot 12 oktober 2006. De Vlaamse wiki (vls.wp) kent geen gebruiker met de naam Carolus, dus ik kan niet voor je nakijken tot wanneer je daar geblokkeerd bent. Groet, Siebrand 16:43, 15 September 2006 (UTC)


Hey, would you mind checking out if this template is OK or not? thanks, pfctdayelise (说什么?) 14:51, 19 September 2006 (UTC) states: De (intellectuele) eigendomsrechten van het beeldmateriaal liggen bij de Rijkswaterstaat, Adviesdienst Geo-informatie en ICT, Beeldbank VenW. Er gelden geen extra kosten voor auteursrechten, wel is bij iedere publicatie bronvermelding verplicht:, Rijkswaterstaat translated: The (intellectual) ownership of the image material lies with the Rijkswaterstaat, Adviesdienst Geo-informatie en ICT, Beeldbank VenW. No extra costs are associated with copyright, although it is mandatory to acknowledge the source with each publication:, Rijkswaterstaat. Siebrand 18:21, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Dupe replacing on[edit]

Hey, I see you added a translation to my message on; thanks for that. :) I was wondering if you could look into something for me, it looks complicated. Image:Italy.Province.Bolzano - Alto Adige.COA.png is a low-resolution duplicate of Image:Südtirol Wappen.PNG; which is only used in nl:Bozen-Zuid-Tirol. However, the use of it on the Dutch page is in a template that apparently uses images in a standard file name format. As Image:Südtirol Wappen.PNG is very widely used, it seems daft to keep the other one, but it cannot be orphaned because of the NL template. Any suggestions?--Nilfanion 21:37, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Admin news[edit]


If you consent for statistics to be published about your actions as an administrator, please sign here: Commons:Administrator permission for statistics. (I expect that most people will not have a problem with it unless you are especially concerned with privacy.)

Also, please be aware that we now have a Commons:Administrators' noticeboard. Please put it on your watchlist, if you haven't already!

cheers, pfctdayelise (translate?) 05:33, 7 September 2006 (UTC) P.S.: Pardon if this is a repeat (bot debugging...)

SVG question[edit]

Hello, I've recently seen your work on new svg maps for Uruguayan departments and their capitals. I'd like, if you give me permission to modify your images, to make similar maps for other cities in the country. If you are willing to give me permission, could you also point me to a good (and free) svg editor, since the one I've tried (Inkscape) is not working for me (I can't open nor create working svg files with it), or to some kind of svg plugin for Corel Draw 9? (since that's my main program for drawing). Thanks in advance. Jordevi 01:09, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your tip! Now I'd like to know if you'd be able to make 19 new blank maps, one for each department (not having dots for capital cities), for me or anybody else to place the dots to show the location of the different cities. And also, do you know how can I apply transparency to an image (the dot I'm using), so I don't have that white "frame" all around it? Jordevi 21:47, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
Hi again. I'm in no big hurry for those maps, so I can wait one or two days if you can't make them sooner. As for your questions, well, I don't know whether a blank map for the whole country would be best than several highlighting each department. So, you can do whatever you think will be best. As for the transparency issues I was referring to, I am concerned over that white square that appears around the dot I've placed in the map, which I think makes it more difficult to be seen:

It wouldn't be that noticeable on a lighter background, but it doesn't look that well over the red background it has here. Cheers. (Sorry I know no greetings in Dutch, but I could try in German or Danish next time if that's ok with you :P) Jordevi 02:06, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Hi, sorry to bother you again, but don't you happen to have any news on this? Met vriendelijke groet Jordevi 04:42, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Ok, I can wait (I've been quite busy lately, so waiting should not be a problem now :) ). Then I'll have figure out a way to make that dot look good, but I'm sure I'll come up with something (creating a new one with red background, or something like that, maybe). Jordevi 15:59, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi again. Well, I changed my mind, for the time being. I've been checking some other city infoboxes, and I came across this one, used on Swiss cities articles. The fact they could place not just a dot, but the city name as well, over the map is something I like, since it doesn't leave that much dead space. Do you have any idea on how to adapt that system to Uruguayan articles? (I'll do my own research, but it'd be great if you already knew about that) Jordevi 17:38, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

And nevermind once more. I figured it out myself. Thanks for all the help! Jordevi 19:23, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Jow niels

om eeen of andere reden komt er bij ons te staan als we ons willen registeren dan ons ip geblokeerd is. Volgend bericht komt er: "Het aanmaken van een account vanaf dit IP-adres ( is geblokkeerd." Ook staat er ergens dat gij dat zou hebben gedaan omwillen van herhaald vandalisme Wij weten echter van niets.

Ons ip is eigenlijk

Kunnen wij hier iets aan doen ? Gelieven te antwoorden op

Dank bij voorbaat met vriendelijke groeten Wonne

Deletion request Image:Monsterscore.jpg[edit]

Hi NielsF. I've seen you have reverted the Image:Monsterscore.jpg for improper deletion request, image is used to illustrate a subject on nl:. I don't know if it is used in the nl Wikipedia, but I think a photo with a girl and a scoreboard titled "Monsterscore" is not apropiated and shows no respect to her. MontanNito 23:12, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Ok. The image is on nl:Monsterscore. I'm not sure whether I would deem it inappropriate, however the main reason for the revert was that you didn't complete the deletion procedure by listing it at COM:DEL. Please see the introduction at COM:DEL for how to properly nominate an image for deletion. Cheers, NielsF talk/overleg/discussion/discussione 02:29, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

re: Question[edit]

Hey. Nice to see you again. COM:A says: inactive administrators may have their access removed..."Inactive" means no edits in the past 6 months and fewer than 50 edits in the last year. So now you know what you need to do to avoid being desysopped.

What "clean-out" exactly is Siebrand doing? I hope you will work with him to avoid ill-will towards Commons developing. I always worry about this. --pfctdayelise (说什么?) 04:25, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Regarding "strictness" - I believe this is typical in a wiki's natural development. Early on, everything is less strict. Gradually things become stricter. Siebrand may need a few more people on his side if he wants to push the "strictness" faster than its natural growth. Reminding people of our copyright and moral obligations to provide only material known to be truly free, may help.
I really like nl:Wikipedia:Upload, it's a great idea. I personally haven't noticed an increase in problems with Dutch users. Yann or WarX might be able to tell you more than me (I think they do more RC type patrolling). --pfctdayelise (说什么?) 08:39, 14 February 2007 (UTC)


Thank you for your assistance in the Help Desk. This licensing stuff sure is complicated... Cheers to you. :) W3stfa11 19:52, 15 February 2007 (UTC)


Grazie per avermi avvertito: avevo copiato la mia firma da :) ----ßøuñçêY2K 19:16, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Deletion request Image:Monsterscore.jpg[edit]

Hi NielsF. I've seen you have reverted the Image:Monsterscore.jpg for improper deletion request, image is used to illustrate a subject on nl:. I don't know if it is used in the nl Wikipedia, but I think a photo with a girl and a scoreboard titled "Monsterscore" is not apropiated and shows no respect to her. MontanNito 23:12, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Ok. The image is on nl:Monsterscore. I'm not sure whether I would deem it inappropriate, however the main reason for the revert was that you didn't complete the deletion procedure by listing it at COM:DEL. Please see the introduction at COM:DEL for how to properly nominate an image for deletion. Cheers, NielsF talk/overleg/discussion/discussione 02:29, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

re: Question[edit]

Hey. Nice to see you again. COM:A says: inactive administrators may have their access removed..."Inactive" means no edits in the past 6 months and fewer than 50 edits in the last year. So now you know what you need to do to avoid being desysopped.

What "clean-out" exactly is Siebrand doing? I hope you will work with him to avoid ill-will towards Commons developing. I always worry about this. --pfctdayelise (说什么?) 04:25, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Regarding "strictness" - I believe this is typical in a wiki's natural development. Early on, everything is less strict. Gradually things become stricter. Siebrand may need a few more people on his side if he wants to push the "strictness" faster than its natural growth. Reminding people of our copyright and moral obligations to provide only material known to be truly free, may help.
I really like nl:Wikipedia:Upload, it's a great idea. I personally haven't noticed an increase in problems with Dutch users. Yann or WarX might be able to tell you more than me (I think they do more RC type patrolling). --pfctdayelise (说什么?) 08:39, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

I was confused- sorry to bug you- I guess only fred was involved.. I have taken it up elsewhere. -Mak 01:10, 25 August 2006 (UTC)


Thank you for your assistance in the Help Desk. This licensing stuff sure is complicated... Cheers to you. :) W3stfa11 19:52, 15 February 2007 (UTC)


Grazie per avermi avvertito: avevo copiato la mia firma da :) ----ßøuñçêY2K 19:16, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the note[edit]

Thank you for the note about using {{badname}}. --Midnightcomm 02:39, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

No probs, glad to have been of help. NielsF talk/overleg/discussion/discussione 02:49, 23 February 2007 (UTC)


I have uploaded several SVG files to replace existing raster images on both the Commons and on Wikipedia. Some I uploaded months ago. However, none of them have been rendered as raster images by the MediaWiki engine for use on pages, so whenever a prerendered version of an SVG I uploaded is supposed to appear on a page, only the alt text shows up. I don't know what's going on. For an example of this problem, go to Image:Hyperbola.svg. Jesin 01:16, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Strange, strange. Problem still not solved I see... try the helpdesk or the Village pump, I'm not that knowledgeable about the quirks of the SVG-rendering software, I'm afraid. NielsF talk/overleg/discussion/discussione 08:17, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Vertalingen Commons:Upload/nl[edit]

Hey Nielske,
Na een ochtendje vertalen heb ik enkele uploadteksten naar het nederlands vertaald. Zou jij ze willen checken en daarna eventueel in de Mediawiki ruimte willen zetten en in het uploadsjab in deze titel willen linken? Zie ook Commons:Redesigning the upload form; als ik het goed begrijp kwestie van overal "nl" voor zetten, dus bijvoorbeeld MediaWiki:Uploadtext/nlownwork. Althans, zo meen ik het de noren hebben zien doen.
Grz, Ciell 10:25, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Hmmm, das niet zo snugger van mij :-D, vergeet ik de link: User:Ciell/Uploadteksten. Ciell 10:36, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
Ik snap er vooralsnog geen snars van, ik zal als ik zin heb zo even #wikimedia-commons spammen. Vraag als het niet gedaan is morgenochtend het anders even aan Bryan, da's de hardcorenederlandstaligecommonsmod. NielsF talk/overleg/discussion/discussione 21:20, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
Ik had al een berichtje in de Kroeg geplaatst, alwaar Bryan gereageerd heeft. De uploadpagina is volledig gewijzigd: men moet nu eerst een keuze maken in Commons:Upload/nl en voor elke genoemde mogelijkheid is er nu een ander formulier. Deze heb ik dus vertaald zodat we weer meer in lijn lopen met en:. Verder kan ik volgens mij geen teksten in mediawiki naamruimte zetten: ik meen dat dit voorbehouden is aan moderatoren? Maar goed, hopelijk is het zo wat duidelijker; sorry dat ik zo bij je binnenviel terwijl je net wakker was :-). Ciell 07:29, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
Nou het was meer dat ik bijna in slaap viel :-). Dat het voorbehouden was aan mods snapte ik, alleen wáár ik dan de opbrengsten van jouw goede werk neer moest zetten... Daar duizelde het me even. Maar bueno, als Bryan het in de smiezen heeft loopt 't vast goed af ;-). Met je permissie zal ik de teksten nog even doorvlooien en dat melden in COM:DK. NielsF talk/overleg/discussion/discussione 08:16, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
Jeuh! Dank je voor je correcties (ik ken mezelf, kan niet blind typen en dan sluipen er soms erg onbenullige foutjes in... ;-) Ciell 09:04, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

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Knuckles (mi)[edit]

Love the image. Thaaaanks/Dank u wel (attempt at Dutch) Kahuroa 05:40, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Glad I could help. NielsF talk/overleg/discussion/discussione 09:53, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Besoin d'aide[edit]

Bonjour, j'aurais besoin de ton aide pour transférer cette photo sur Wikimédia Commons. Je ne comprend pas très bien la licence de la photo, et si User:Torero a pris lui-même la photo.

Sur la page : nl:Gebruiker:Torero/Foto's, la légende de la photo indique :

Tuffieten in de Eifel, Duitsland
Gemaakt op: 5 mei 2005
Gebruikt bij artikels: Tufsteen en Discordantie

Est-ce que je peux donner le nom « Tuffieten in de Eifel, Duitsland » à la photo sur Commons ? Ce nom doit être précis, non ?

Cette demande n'a rien d'urgent, mais quand tu auras le temps j'apprécierais ton aide.

Un grand merci d'avance. WεFt 11:19, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

J'ai transfert la photo, elle se trouve désormais ici sous le nom Image:Tuffiet in de Eifel.jpg. J'espère que tu es d'accord avec ça? NielsF talk/overleg/discussion/discussione 16:51, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
Parfait, merci beaucoup ! WεFt 18:54, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Yvn : GlucoseTeX[edit]

Je ne demande pas mieux que de la placer sous licence libre, il me semble l'avoir mais je dois me tromper. Comment modifier la licence d'une image déjà enregistrée ? Dois-je copier une nouvelle version de ce fichier pour cela ou puis-je le faire directement ? the preceding unsigned comment is by Yvn (talk • contribs)

Il faut seulement mettre une licence, voyez Commons:Bandeaux de licence pour les bandeaux disponibles. Pour faire ça: cliquez ici et mettez la code (par exemple: mettez {{self|GFDL|cc-by-sa-2.5,2.0,1.0|author=I, [[User:Yvn|Yvn]]}} si vous souhaitez la même licence sous laquelle vous avez soumis Image:Gluconate.PNG). Si vous avez besoin de plus d'aide, n'hésitez pas a demander a Commons:Service d'aide, ou on trouvera des vrais Francophones (je ne suis qu'un hollandais qui essaye de parler français). NielsF talk/overleg/discussion/discussione 03:23, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
C'est fait, merci pour l'aide. Vous vous débrouillez vraiment très bien en français. Peut-être que cela vous demande un grand effort mais en tout cas c'est réussi, il ne manque que quelques accents et des espaces avant les ":" mais ce sont des spécificités de cette langue car les Français ne font rien comme tout le monde !!! Un certain nombre de francophones ne maîtrisent pas cette langue aussi bien que vous. the preceding unsigned comment is by Yvn (talk • contribs)
De rien. Je suis content d'avoir pu vous aider. NielsF talk/overleg/discussion/discussione 16:54, 8 July 2007 (UTC)


For helping out on my talk page! pfctdayelise (说什么?) 05:35, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

No probs, glad to help. NielsF ? (en, nl, fr, it) 12:10, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Proof reading[edit]

Hoi Niels. In de afgelopen weken heb ik alle Commons:Message templates vertaald zodat de informatie in het Nederlands beschikbaar is. Alle Nederlandstalige versies staan gelink in de kolom met NL op Commons:Message templates/todo-big. Ik zou je willen vragen de teksten door te lezen en eventuele fouten te verbeteren. Als ook jij je kunt vinden in de vertaling op basis van het Engels, teken dat dan alsjeblieft aan op de overlegpagina van het sjabloon, zodat User:Bryan, die ik ook gevraagd heb voor dit proof-readprojectje, geen dubbel werk doet. Alvast bedankt voor je hulp. Groet, Siebrand 12:26, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Ok, will look into it. NielsF ? (en, nl, fr, it) 13:14, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

I think the problem is sorted..[edit]

I can imagine how suspicious it looks, but my dad was not too pleased. I have only three left on here which need deleting and as per the previous admins requests i added speedy delete tags to the versions on wikipedia. I have 3 extra images which are staying on here which are taken or made by myself and all further pictures will be (i dont want to go through all this again) Fethroesforia 23:31, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Sure. Maybe I'm from a part of the world where fathers considering lawsuits against their children is strange. Cheers, NielsF ? (en, nl, fr, it) 23:36, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
probably..or maybe my parents are downright weird! :) Fethroesforia 23:46, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
(copied from help desk) ::Just for notification, the images have been deleted and I have managed to get some constructive dialogue. We have figured out who took which pictures, and there are some he does NOT want to upload, these are the metal structure one, the whole load of sachsenhausen photos, the views of the ferhsehturm, the buildings at potsdamer platz and the river spree with the concert hall thing. The others I will check to make sure they are mine and re-upload soon. Fethroesforia 14:05, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
Tnx for the heads-up, although it's not exactly needed as the Help desk is on my watchlist. Cheers, NielsF ? (en, nl, fr, it) 14:32, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

En relación a la licencia de image:Alfredo alegria.JPG[edit]

La licencia es válida.

DERECHOS DE PROPIEDAD INTELECTUAL LEGISLACION NACIONAL - NICARAGUA, Decreto No. 22-2000, Reglamento de la Ley de Derechos de Autor y Conexos.

Esta ley esta entra en vigencia en 1999. La fotografía en cuestion no es una obra fotográfica es una restauracion de una foto de estudio de 1954. Esta foto jamas fue registrada como obra fotográfica y por ende no esta protegida por esta ley. Es una foto que además ha sido utilisada para publicaciones en la Prensa en numerosas ocaciones y es de pleno dominio popular.

Poseo dirección de familiares para validación de la licencia si necesario.



I have asked Spanish speaking users to help me on this Commons:Café#Ayudame_.2F_Help_needed, as my spanish and my knowledge of nicaraguan law both aren't good enough. NielsF ? (en, nl, fr, it) 23:16, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Image:Johanniskirche Imst.jpg[edit]

Hoi Niels! Ik moet eerlijk zeggen, dat ik me niet heb verdiept in de verwijdervoorwaarden voor Commons, maar het is toch onzin om serverruimte te gebruiken van een foto op zijn kant of niet? De eerste upload heeft toch absoluut geen waarde, als de goed georiënteerde foto er staat? Groet, Tubantia 19:37, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Dag Tubantia! Je hebt niet helemaal gelijk wat de serverruimte betreft. Feit is nl. dat het verwijderen ervan nog meer serverruimte kost ;-). Weg is namelijk niet fysiek weg, alleen maar in een andere database (die alleen door mods in te kijken is) gezet. Als je het foutje echt per sé weggepoetst wilt hebben kan dat wel hoor. Het maakt mij niet zoveel uit, maar omdat er al iemand behouden had gereageerd heb ik maar voor niet verwijderen gekozen. NielsF ? (en, nl, fr, it) 19:57, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
Ok, als jij het zegt, dan zal het best. Ik dacht alleen dat het beter was om 'm te verwijderen, maar klaarblijkelijk verkeerd gedacht :) Dank voor je antwoord! Groet, Tubantia 19:59, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Why did you delete my page??[edit]

It was a small normal info page about me as an artist. No violation either there was anything disturbing. the preceding unsigned comment is by Andreasweise (talk • contribs)

Please read your talk page, it was outside of our project scope. Commons is a media archive. Please go to Wikipedia if you want to write an encyclopedic article. NielsF ? (en, nl, fr, it) 00:25, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Afbeeldingen Commons Category[edit]

Niels, bedankt voor je bericht, helaas is de vraag/probleem nog niet beantwoord. Volgens mij moet net als bij Wikipedia niet uitsluitend de regel <Category: Techniek> in het document staan maar voor of na deze regel <Category: Wierden|Techniek> of iets dergelijks. Het lijkt mij nader inzien onlogisch of zelf onmogelijk Techniek te koppelen aan Wierden, omdat de sub Techniek mogelijk ook bij andere plaatsen kan bestaan.Ik zal eens een test doen bij Mozaïek_Postkantoor_Wierden.jpg doen in de Category Kunst&Cultuur.Iemand die een foto Techniek plaats uit Amsterdam moet dan zelf opletten dat hij of zij de voorcategory aangeeft.--Okido 11:26, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Niels, na diverse tests ben ik tot de voorlopige conclusie gekomen dat mogelijk de juiste opdrachtregel of sjabloon zoals jullie dat noemen Category: Kunst&Cultuur|Wierden moet zijn. De foto staat dan in Kunst&Cultuur en niet tevens in de Category Wierden. Het lijkt mij dan dat er een koppeling is tussen de beide categorys

Blijft een feit dat anderen zich er van bewust zijn ook hun afbeeldingen te koppelen aan de sub categorie. Nu zeg je mogelijk, het verhaal klopt niet of ja, dat wist ik wel en dat had je ook moeten weten, maar als ik het niet weet dan weten anderen dit mogelijk ook niet. Goed, graag toch je mening over de de opdrachtregel en hoe kijk je tegen het Engels aan, is Engels de bedoeling of zeg je Wierden is toch 'lokaal' niveau en laat mooi staan.--Okido 11:59, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Sharon WT[edit]

L'importante è che ci sia. Ciao, --Elitre 23:32, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

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Hello. I am the author of Image:百楽兎.png and want to delete the first (oldest) version of it, what should I do? Or could you do me a favor? Thank you in advance.--百楽兎.png百楽兎 02:28, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

11:36, 5 May 2008 (UTC)(for archiving use only)

Football playgrounds[edit]

Hello NielsF,

I have to ask you something that hopefuly you can help about football playgrounds. Namely,

Can you tell me where to find on internet some details and drawings-vertical sections about the preparaion and construction of the football pitches? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk • contribs)

Hi, I'm not sure why you're asking me, as I don't have a clue. Sorry. You maybe better off trying with you local club or national association... or search the FIFA site? NielsF ? (en, nl, fr, it) 11:36, 5 May 2008 (UTC)


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Thank you for notifying me. I see the request has already been closed. NielsF ? (en, nl, fr, it) 11:36, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Líderes mundiales[edit]

providing the author(s) and license are mentioned means that I must put in the description the 50 links to its original images?, well, I suposse I will do. I begin and will go on (be patient, there are many). Thank you for your comment.--Ángel Luis Alfaro 07:55, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

All the names of the photos in commons are placed in the description box. Is enough?.--Ángel Luis Alfaro 16:46, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Image:A Yool Carhenge1 02Sep03.jpg[edit]

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Ciao NielsF, Image:15°Stormo-Patch.png è un mio render (ovverosia la copia) di Image:15°Stormo-patch.svg. Sono la stessa immagine solo che una è una bitmap (in formato PNG) e l'altra è vettoriale. Potete cancellarla, dato che è inutile avere due volte la stessa immagine (solo l'estensione è diversa). --F l a n k e r 19:00, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Hmm. In questo caso non capisco perchè l'hai caricata, visto che MediaWiki automaticamente faccia un render... quando metti [[Image:15°Stormo-patch.svg|473px]] si fa automaticamente: Avrei cancellato il bitmap, se non era la prima versione, che e distinto dal SVG, non so come fare. Vado a domandare a qualche altri amministratori. Grazie per la spiegazione. NielsF ? (en, nl, fr, it) 22:21, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
Grazie a te per la disponibilità. --F l a n k e r 12:40, 27 May 2008 (UTC)


Hey Niels,

Ik kwam per toeval op deze pagina terecht: zitten er geen rechten op die vlaggen? Ciell (talk) 08:07, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Hey Ciell. Inderdaad. Dat vroeg ik me ook af. Die lijst heb ik dan ook gemaakt voor het verwijderverzoek dat er naar linkt. Gr, NielsF ? (en, nl, fr, it) 16:13, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
Ah, op die manier... bijzondere uitslag daar trouwens. Ciell (talk) 07:38, 20 August 2008 (UTC)


There is no panorama freedom in Belgium. Ik zoek me de blubber in die wet, maar kan niet vinden waar dit staat: jij bent hier vaak goed in, enig idee? Ciell (talk) 16:06, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Het is er niet, dus staat het niet in de wet. FOP is eigenlijk een beetje een misleidende term (net zoiets als citaat"recht"), in die zin: het is een mogelijke uitzondering, geen "recht" of "vrijheid". Wordt die uitzondering niet expliciet gemaakt, bestaat-ie ook niet. Althans, zo heb ik het altijd begrepen. Zie ook Atomium. Groet, NielsF ? (en, nl, fr, it) 18:09, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
botje??? NielsF ? (en, nl, fr, it) 00:01, 1 August 2009 (UTC)


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Multichill (talk) 16:40, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Check, dubbelcheck[edit]

Commons:OTRS/nl. :-) Ciell (talk) 08:43, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

NielsF ? (en, nl, fr, it) 21:56, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Fair use images[edit]

Well, the thing is that some images of wikimedia (such as project logos, wiki awards and other symbols) show the copyright icon Red copyright.svg and the message: "This file is copyrighted by the Wikimedia Foundation. It includes an official logo or design and (notwithstanding any other statements) has not been licensed under the GFDL. Use of the file is subject to the Wikimedia visual identity guidelines and requires permission.". For that reason I want to ask you how do I get this 'permission' to use some of the images, for example; if I am creating a new wiki award or I want to put interwiki links to my other userpages between wikimedia sister projects using icons. Here are four examples of images with copyright simbols: [6], [7], [8] & [9] ...Hope you can give me a reply soon (in my page here or in my wikipedia user page) --Damërung (talk) 06:53, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

If this is still an issue, please reply below. NielsF ? (en, nl, fr, it) 21:57, 17 November 2009 (UTC)