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File:Turkey location map.svg[edit]

Hello, you can make a Turkey location map for Turkish Insurgency ? Like Syria location map. But this does not seem to map rivers in Turkey. Can you add to this rivers map? for example, the Tigris and Euphrates rivers. And rivers in neighboring countries. For example, Iraq, Syria, Iran, Armenia, Russia, Bulgaria and Greece. The background color of the provinces on the map should be a little darker, a little white color .. .. And the borders of the provinces should be slightly thicker than black. Bruskom talk to me 14:22, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

Hello! I am about to create a new set of location maps and they all show rivers but the colours are like file:Syria adm location map.svg. NNW 17:10, 27 December 2015 (UTC)
Good job, but i talk about Turkey. I wanted an location map of Turkey. for Turkish Insurgency. I waiting. Bruskom talk to me 05:40, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
I know that you talk about Turkey. I just wanted to say that a new version of the Turkey location map which will be made by me will look like Syria, not with darker provinces or a darker boundary colour. They all have the same colour scheme and Turkey will have to fit, too. NNW 11:04, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
And the borders of the provinces should be slightly thicker than black. like that Bruskom (talk) 10:39, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Hello Bruskom! File:Turkey adm location map.svg with rivers and better administrative borders is available now. NNW 17:45, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

File:India Jammu and Kashmir location map.svg[edit]

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2001:56A:73DC:4A00:B5F9:1370:E3D1:4758 06:06, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

Gemeinden im Bezirk Leibnitz.png[edit]

Hallo NordNordWest, aufgrund von Gemeindenamensänderungen seit 1. Jan. 2016 müssten 4 Bezirkskarten geändert werden. Ich kann die Schriftart nicht eruieren, um es selbst zu machen - bitte um Info oder Umsetzung.

Lg Kontrollstelle Kundl 16:32, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

Moin! Das ist die Myriad. Die Karten sind auch schon aktualisiert. „Straß in Steiermark“ ist wirklich schlimm. Viele Grüße, NNW 17:11, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
Danke und schönen Abend! Kontrollstelle Kundl 18:33, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

Update request for File:Netflix area.svg[edit]

Hello, I was wondering if you could possibly update this map, Netflix recently underwent a major expansion and the map should reflect it[1], I would update it myself but I can't edit svg files. Thank you in advance Abrahamic Faiths (talk) 02:23, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

Hello! No problem although this map doesn't seem to be very useful right now as there are only four areas without Netflix. :o) NNW 09:42, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

File:Jordan location map.svg[edit]

Hello, I need a map derived from File:Jordan location map.svg, for use in Battle of Karameh Wikipedia article. It should look like this File:Jerusalem area.svg . Zoomed in part of the map should stretch from the town of Karameh north of the Dead Sea to the town of Safi south of the Dead Sea. Jordanian territory should only be white since the battle was in Jordan. The zoomed in part should look like this.

And if you don't mind I need another map combining Jordan, Israel, Palestine and Syria for use in the Desert castles article. All countries mentioned should be labelled white (I think ) like this . Thanksǃ --Makeandtoss (talk) 12:45, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

Hello! I am still quite busy with updating maps after all the changes of the new year and then I promised to create some other maps which all have to be made first if I don't want to be impolite. So it might take some time until I manage to create these maps. NNW 15:45, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
No worries at all... I don't mind if you refer me to another user, if you will take long. --Makeandtoss (talk) 17:13, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
There is a Map lab at en:WP. That might be the faster lane. NNW 17:37, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
Still busy? --Makeandtoss (talk) 20:30, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
Still busy, yes. NNW 09:28, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

file:Levant adm location map.svg is available now. NNW 17:21, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

Graphic Designer Barnstar Hires.png The Graphic Designer's Barnstar
Thank you for making this, it's beautiful. I slaved over that Turkey svg for like four hours (it's terrible that it doesn't include the Euphrates which is politically/strategically very important), transferred all the rivers in Iraq and Syria and added a few Turkish ones, but I couldn't figure out how to make it overlap perfectly with the current version with its position and size. I know that you made a much more complicated map ages ago which was reverted. It's amazing that you did all that work without any recognition... so hopefully this is of some recompense. Monochrome Monitor (talk) 02:19, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
Thank you very much! NNW 09:03, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

Kosovo Regionen[edit]

Moinsen! Ich kämpfe gerade damit, dass die Kosovo-Regionen in Open Street Map wie auch mir vorliegenden sonstigen Kartendaten falsch sind (33 inkompatible Regionen gegenüber den 38 laut Kosovo Statistics Agency und Wikipedia -File:Kosovo_location_map.svg). Irgendein Tipp, wo ich an Kartendaten komme um die Regionen richtig zuzuordnen? Tausend Dank! Jürgen

Moin! Ich hatte es mit der Karte für Wikipedia ja ziemlich leicht, da der Maßstab recht klein ist. Da muss man nur nach Kosovo und municipalities googlen, um etwas Brauchbares zu finden. Für OSM müsste es natürlich schon etwas Genaueres sein. Darum habe ich mich bislang nicht gekümmert. Du könntest schauen, ob alte Karten von Jugoslawien Gemeindegrenzen zeigen oder besser noch Ortsteilgrenzen, denn solche Grenzen verändern sich nur sehr selten, sondern werden höchstens neu zusammengesetzt. Um eine Übersicht zu bekommen, bieten sich häufig Daten des staatlichen Statistikamtes an. Oder du versucht es über Die sollten eigentlich irgendetwas haben. Mehr weiß ich aber auch nicht. NNW 09:18, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

The four missing regions, Norway location map.svg[edit]

Hello. You have created great vector maps of 15 of the regions of Norway, like the first sample below of Nordland in Norway. Almost all Norwegian regions are covered. Is it possible for you to create similar vector maps of the 4 remaining regions of Norway? The remaining 4 regions are: Nord-Trøndelag, Oppland, Telemark and Aust-Agder. (Shown in the images below) I would like to use the missing maps to create location maps for the rest of the municipalities of Norway, similar to the final sample below. Regards. --Bjarkan (talk) 16:28, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

I noticed your request at the map lab at de:WP. These maps are still on my to-do-list and I hope I can finish this work this year. NNW 16:57, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

@Bjarkan: I started to create the location maps for the fylker. The will follow the guidelines for the new location map series N – first of all a lighter blue for rivers and coastlines – and they will have a conic projection (except Oslo) because this is better for Norway. Now available:

In the end there will be a new map for Norway, too. Regards, NNW 17:56, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

Copyright status: File:Karte Jenischpark.png[edit]

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Unklarheiten bei Copyright deiner Bilder[edit]

Hi NordNordwest, ich würde gerne deine Karte Bundesautobahn_22.png für eine von mir gestartete Petition auf zumr schnellstmöglichen Planfeststellung der A20 und der verzugsfreien Fertigstellung der A 26 verwenden. Ich würde folgende Angaben darunter setzen

Grafik: Copyright By NordNordWest - own work, using a shading by Lencer, see Deutschland Übersichtskarte.png CC BY-SA 3.0,

Darf ich die Karte dann benutzen bzw. genügt das dem Urheberrecht? Danke für die schnelle Antwort. Ich hoffe, ich habe das hier als richtigen Kommunikationsweg genutzt ;) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Geezus89 (talk • contribs)

Moin! Etwas anders muss es aussehen:
Alternativ kann CC BY-SA 3.0 auch direkt mit verlinkt werden, dann muss es nicht ausgeschrieben werden, macht die Sache etwas kürzer. Der Link bzw. der Linktext gehört aber unbedingt mit dazu. Dann ist alles lizenztechnisch in Ordnung. Viele Grüße, NNW 17:17, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

Danke für deine schnelle Antwort ! Bevor ich die Petition verbreite, schau doch bitte einmal drüber ob das alles so richtig ist : Den Link bzw. dieser Zusatz kann wenn alles okay ist gerne wieder gelöscht werden, will ja keine Schleichwerbung machen ;) 25.02.2016 14:24

Chile location map.svg[edit]

Hello, i wanted to inform you an issue in the map that i tried to fix but my file didn't had the loc map conventions.

Southern Patagonian Ice Fields was a disputed territory between Chile and Argentina, most of the limit was solved in a theathy of 1998 but there still a part of the limit that is pending to define the limit, the thing is that in this map is shown how Argentina want to have the limit, And in all the Argentinians maps you'll see that, their claim of the zone, but in most of Chilean maps you'll see a square that says that the limits remains undefined, and i tryied to do that, as it is neutral, but it got reverted. I didn't showed the chilean claim, but a lot of files show the Argentina's claim, and i find that unfair and not neutral.

If you see Google Earth, you can see that the limit is not defined. Some examples of how is show in Chile

Mapa loc Magallanes.svg SRTM-W75.90E72.00S50.00N49.00.PuertoEden.png External Magallanes Region Map External Map 2

An Example of the Chilean Claim Another Example of Chilean Claim

And the Argentina claim is like the most of the wikipedia maps...

Link to the theathy

Open Street Map showing the limit

So, can we make that map neutral or, if Argentina can show it's claim everywhere, why Chile can't? --Janitoalevic (talk) 23:14, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

There is no need to discuss this on several pages. I read what you wrote at TUBS' discussion page and I will answer there. NNW 09:02, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

File:AKWs Deutschland.png[edit]

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Karten des Landkreises Cuxhaven[edit]

Lamstedt in CUX.svg

Moin NordNordWest, da du die letzen Aktualisierungen an File:Lamstedt in CUX.svg und den anderen Karten der Serie gemacht hast und User:Hagar66 als ursprünglicher Ersteller nicht mehr aktiv ist, melde ich mich mal bei dir und hoffe auf Rat: Mir ist aufgefallen, dass die Gemeinde Lamstedt mit einer Exklave an der Mehe (nahe der Oste) eingezeichnet ist. Der Status dieser Exklave ist mir etwas unklar und die beiden Links, die als Quelle angegeben sind, führen heute nur noch ins Leere.

Google Maps und OpenStreetMaps führen dieses Gebiet als Teil der Gemeinde Hollnseth. Der Wikipedia-Artikel de:Armstorf reklamiert die Exklave seit dieser Version als Teil von Armstorf. Das wird dadurch gestützt, dass die Gemarkungskarte des Landkreises Cuxhaven es als separate Gemarkung "Armstorf-Hollen" aufführt. Die zugehörige Gemeindekarte des Landkreises Cuxhaven dummerweise führt es als Teil von Hollnseth. Gehe ich dagegen in eine der Spezialkarten des Cuxland-GIS (hier zum Beispiel), wird die Exklave ein- und ausgeblendet, wenn ich Gemeindegrenzen ein- und ausblende. Allerdings ohne Hinweis, zu welcher Gemeinde das Gebiet gehört.

Ich vermute, dass das Gebiet im Zuge der Moorteilung der Gemeinde Armstorf zugeteilt wurde und zumindest bis zur Kommunalreform in den 1970er Jahren geblieben ist. Ob es danach bei Armstorf geblieben ist oder an Hollnseth oder Lamstedt gefallen ist, kann ich bisher nicht klären. Lamstedt würde meines Erachtens am wenigsten Sinn machen: wenn man das Gebiet umgemeindet hat, dann doch, um die Exklave zu beseitigen und nicht, um wieder eine neue Exklave zu schaffen.

Weißt du Rat oder Quellen, die das klären können? --Slomox (talk) 13:04, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

Moin! Die Exklave existiert sicherlich, sie ist auch im Geoportal Niedersachsen zu finden und auch dort leider unbeschriftet. OSM und Google sind für sowas überhaupt nicht geeignet. Ich komme nachher noch in die Stadt und kann dort schauen, ob ich das TK25-Blatt 2420 finde. Auf dem ist eine Verwaltungsübersicht abgebildet. Sollte das nichts bringen, müsste der Landkreis Auskunft geben können. Wer ein GIS hat, sollte das auslesen können. Dass die Gemeindenamen nicht in jeder Zoomstufe eingeblendet werden können, ist wirklich Murks. NNW 13:40, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
Natürlich war genau dieses Kartenblatt nicht da. Allerdings kann man über eine Gemeindeabfrage machen, hier mit dem Ergebnis Armstorf. Das würde zu Wikipedia (hat ja immer recht :o) ) und zum Gemarkungsnamen passen. Und die Karten hier müssen angepasst werden. NNW 21:25, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
Vielen Dank für deine Recherche! Wie funktioniert die Gemeindeabfrage? So ein Tool hätte ich schon öfter gebrauchen können.
Um das Problem optisch zu fixen, müssen nur die Karten von Lamstedt und Armstorf geändert werden. Da der Path im SVG aber "Lamstedt" in der ID trägt, müssten theoretisch alle Karten im Landkreis angepasst werden. Falls du ein Tool hast, um alle Karten "in einem Rutsch" zu korrigieren, wäre das praktisch. Ansonsten würde ich nur die beiden Karten von Lamstedt und Armstorf händisch anpassen. --Slomox (talk) 06:57, 11 March 2016 (UTC)
Ich habe die Karten der beiden betroffenen Gemeinden korrigiert. Da die anderen Karten eh im November aktualisiert werden müssen, spare ich mir das für den Rest, zumal der Fehler dort nur im Quelltext zu sehen ist und ich vermute, dass das niemanden interessiert. Beim NIBIS-Kartenserver blendest du links über den Punkt „Administrative Grenzen“ die Gemeinden ein und klickst dann einfach in die Flächen. Dann öffnet sich ein Fenster mit der Anzeige des Gemeindenamens. Bei anderen Geografischen Informationssystemen muss man in der Regel ein Werkzeug mit einem i oder ? als Symbol (z.B. bei OSM) dafür nehmen, manchmal auch vorher noch eine Objektebene auswählen, damit das Werkzeug weiß, in welcher Ebene die Abfrage ausgeführt werden soll. Leider wird so ein Abfragewerkzeug nicht in allen Internetanwendungen angeboten. NNW 10:50, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
Vielen Dank für die Änderung und die Erklärung! Da du ja anscheinend Ahnung von GIS hast: gibt es ähnliche Tools auch auf Gemarkungsebene für ganz Niedersachsen? --Slomox (talk) 07:58, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
Kann ich erstmal nichts zu sagen, da ich wenig mit Niedersachsen zu tun habe. Da müsste man das Geodatenportal Niedersachsen durchsuchen, ob dort sowas angeboten wird. NNW 09:59, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

A request[edit]

Can you make an alternate version of this Turkey_adm_location_map.svg? I'm using it in [2], since the other map is simply not accurate. The problem is that as you can see on the template [3], some links are obscured by the dark borders. Can you lighten them, thin them, or both? Not drastically but enough so the text is easier to see. Monochrome Monitor (talk) 18:55, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

Could you please correct the links? NNW 19:27, 13 March 2016 (UTC)
Sorry, those are english wikipedia links. Monochrome Monitor (talk) 02:07, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
Fixed. The reason I am asking is because people keep reverting the map to the innacurate version because in this svg the text is harder to see. Monochrome Monitor (talk) 02:09, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
I think the easiest way would be that you download that map, open the file with a simple text editor and replace all #646464 with a lighter color that you prefer and upload it as a new file just for this template. You can find some grey tones at NNW 10:07, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
Thank you! Monochrome Monitor (talk) 13:31, 15 March 2016 (UTC)


I am glad to meet you. I am Yamada of the Japanese TV program production company. I wanted to quote 35 wards of Tokyo maps of your book by a program and contacted me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk • contribs)

I think the only map of Tokyo I made is file:Tokio Eingemeindungen 1932-1936.png. You can use this map as long as you a) name the author and b) name and link the license. That can be like this:
author: NordNordWest, license: CC BY-SA 3.0 de ( or shorter
NordNordWest, CC BY-SA 3.0 de (
That's all. NNW 09:36, 16 March 2016 (UTC)


Because I do not have English, I am sorry in a strange sentence. As an example, when I use it in a TV program, ①An author: NordNordWest, ②A license: CC BY-SA 3.0 de ( Of above, two points let's be to be possible if list it?

I am sorry but I am not sure that I really understand your question. NNW 09:50, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

New città metropolitana[edit]

There is a Città Metropolitana di Cagliari.--Driante70 (talk) 11:56, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

I updated the map. NNW 18:19, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
Could you please tell me what happened to the provinces of Sardinia? Was there a merger? I am not sure that I understand it:Città metropolitana di Cagliari#Processo istitutivo correctly. NNW 19:07, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

United Arab Emirates location map.svg[edit]

Hi.may I ask why the three (most important) islands of iran (Abu Musa & Greater and Lesser Tunbs) are marked white(if I see correctly) in this map?Tnx--Arian Ar (talk) 13:12, 24 March 2016 (UTC)

Hello! They are disputed between Iran and UAE, so they are shown in light grey. NNW 14:19, 24 March 2016 (UTC)

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Deutsche Paketzentren frage bzgl. Quelle der Standorte[edit]

Hi ich bin auf deine Grafik und hätte gerne gewusst auf welcher Basis du die Karten erstellt hast. Also die Quelle der Positionen

Vielen Dank — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bastrollo (talk • contribs)

Moin! Die Karte sollte den Artikel de:Paketzentrum (Deutsche Post DHL) illustrieren. Du müsstest daher den Autor bzw. die Autoren des Artikels fragen, woher die Daten in der Tabelle kommen. Selbst recherchiert habe ich nicht. Viele Grüße, NNW 08:06, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

Sorbisches Siedlungsgebiet[edit]

Hallo NNW! Lübben/Lubin und Calau/Kalawa sind ab sofort ebenfalls Teil des amtlichen sorbischen Siedlungsgebietes. Ich bitte dich, die Karten dementsprechend zu aktualisieren. Vielen Dank und schöne Grüße, j.budissin+/- 11:59, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

Moin! Danke für den Hinweis. Da oben darf jetzt aber keine Gemeinde mehr beitreten, dafür wäre kein Platz. :o) Viele Grüße, NNW 12:42, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
That was quick, alle Achtung. Sieht auch eher nicht danach aus :D Lieberose und Schwielochsee haben schon abgelehnt, die würden den Rahmen sprengen. Danke! --j.budissin+/- 12:51, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
Sehe gerade, dass du bei der deutschen Version vergessen hast, die Gemeinden hinzuzufügen. Die sorbische stimmt. --j.budissin+/- 12:53, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
In der deutschen Version sind sie auch, dein Browsercache zeigt nur die alte Version an. NNW 13:00, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
Tatsache, ich dachte, purgen reicht aus. Sorry. --j.budissin+/- 13:13, 21 April 2016 (UTC)


In der Evangelischen Landeskirche Anhalt und der Evangelisch-Lutherischen Kirche in Bayern ist die öffentliche Segnung eines gleichgeschlechtlichen Paares im Gottesdienst erlaubt. Das Gebiet der Evangelisch-Lutherischen Kirche in Bayern und der Evangelischen Landeskirche Anhalts sollte daher in der Karte dunkel-lila dargestellt werden. -- 13:47, 22 April 2016 (UTC) Vielleicht könntest Du die Karte daher aktualisieren, da Du in der Versionsgeschichte der Datei dies öfters bereits gemacht hast, würde es mich freuen, wenn Du dies erledigst. -- 13:49, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

Die Karte illustriert den Artikel de:Segnung gleichgeschlechtlicher Paare. Erst muss der Artikel entsprechend bearbeitet werden, dann erst ist es sinnvoll, auch die Karte zu ändern. Beachte bitte den Punkt de:Diskussion:Segnung gleichgeschlechtlicher Paare#Bayern. Ich stecke zu wenig in der Materie drin, um beurteilen zu können, was wie eingefärbt sein muss. NNW 16:20, 22 April 2016 (UTC)


  • Befürwortende Synpdenentscheidung am 23. April 2016: Evangelische Landeskirche in Baden

In der Evangelischen Landeskirche in Baden ist die Segnung gleichgeschlechtlicher Paare in einem Traugottesdienst am 23. April 2016 durch die Synode ermöglicht worden. Das Gebiet der Evangelischen Landeskirche in Baden sollte daher in der Karte dunkel-lila gefärbt werden. -- 11:37, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

Siehe einen Punkt höher. NNW 10:12, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

Creating a zip code map[edit]

Hello! Would it be possible for you to create a vector image of the lower 48 US zip code tabulation areas? The shape file is here: [4] and somebody did a Javascript implementation here: [5]. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 00:04, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

Hello! I opened the SVG file and it contains thousands of tiny areas like in file:5 digit ZCTAs in Virginia.svg. If you want to be able to identify any of these areas then this would be a hugh map. This isn't sensible for the lower 48. NNW 10:12, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

Distribution maps[edit]

I created a distribution map for manx shearwater based closely on (but not copied directly from] the HBW map. You deleted it as a copyright violation.

I have a dilemma here. If I create a map which closely follows the source map, you are likely to delete it as a copyright violation, but to get articles through the en-wiki featured article process I have to include a distribution map, which has not previously led to problems. Until now it's been accepted that a hand-drawn map is acceptable since it is, by definition, bound to show the same information as the source map

It seems to me that the only way around the copyright issue is to produce a map with deliberate inaccuracies or distortions, beyond those resulting from my draughtsmanship, which seems against the spirit of Wikipedia and will create problems at FAC. As I understand it, you seem to be saying that accurate maps are not acceptable on Commons. I'd welcome clarification on this policy because I want to get Manx shearwater to featured article, and I've no idea how to make a map that is both accurate and that you won't delete

thanks Jimfbleak (talk) 13:25, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

Hello! I just opened and File:Puffinus puffinus distribution map.jpg and copied both files into one file in Photoshop: same size, same projection, same accuracy of the coastlines and borders, same distribution area, even same colours. Even if you chose the same scale and projection of the original version it would be impossible to recreate exactly the same coastlines. Cartographic generalization cannot be reproduced, not even by the same person. If your file wasn't just a cropped version of the HBW map then I cannot see the difference.
Of course you can show the same distribution area without any inaccuracy but your map has to be different from the original map. You can change projection and colours and the background map and it will look completely different and it is okay for Commons. Just try File:BlankMap-World6-Equirectangular.svg or File:BlankMap-World7.svg as a background map and nobody will complain. Regards, NNW 14:03, 25 April 2016 (UTC)